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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I wonder what their real intention was. Kinda freaky how A.I systems can just go off and do their own thing, especially if the A.I was in a military vehicle. |
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| Did the Major actually hold back a military helicopter with bare hands? |
Kvakond said: Did the Major actually hold back a military helicopter with bare hands? Yes, since she is a top grade military cyborg I guess she can do that. Other forums allude the scene to the Matrix. Remember the helicopter scene where Neo rescued Morpheus from the agents? It was said that it was Kamiyama's homage to the Matrix. The Matrix in turn have acknowledged that they were greatly influenced by Mamouru Oshii's 1995 movie. |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| Now that you mentioned it, I knew it was familiar. Still, Neo had no (or close to no) effect on the movement of the helicopter as it was already going down, he only hold against trinity's weight. Thus Major >>> Neo. Thank you for your detailed insights in all these topics! One can tell that you truly love the series! |
Kvakond said: Now that you mentioned it, I knew it was familiar. Still, Neo had no (or close to no) effect on the movement of the helicopter as it was already going down, he only hold against trinity's weight. Thus Major >>> Neo. Thank you for your detailed insights in all these topics! One can tell that you truly love the series! I do love the series and am just praying and hoping that a third season would come out soon! I really make it a point to scan/check these forums to see if any new post are made and I love discussing and sharing information about this series. Also, to be honest with you I just appreciated the series just now (mid year 2008). I got some DVDs and simply got hooked. LOL |
| "We practice selective annihilation of mayors and government officials, for example, to create a vacuum, then we fill that vacuum. As popular war advances, peace is closer" |
| damn, badass ep. i dont know how many times i've repeated the scene where major pinned down that helicopter... btw, back in the pilot's room two guys switched his medicine, i wonder what's the purpose of that. The accident was obviously staged. |
| This was great. Some nice action going on. Good to see the Tachikomas doing some extensive stuff. |
| Decent episode. The major pulling the helicopter toward her was awesome. It seems there is a bigger picture to all of this A.I. mess up. |
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| Nice going by the major xD holding back a helicopter, almost appears as if the government itself is trying to instigate an uprising in the ranks of the refugees in order to justify some action they want to undertake =O |
| Am I the only one who finds it weird that the control asked "Your heartbeat has stopped, are you alright?" |
Confucius said: Am I the only one who finds it weird that the control asked "Your heartbeat has stopped, are you alright?" With all of the cybernetics people can get, I imagine it's possible to have redundant hearts, or at least the ability to survive without a heartbeat for a time. |
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| Now that! Is what you call a grade A episode! |
| Very interesting, there seems to be more going on, but I guess we'll find out what that is in the future episodes. I liked that scene with the Major pulling the helicopter, and the one guy looks a bit freaky :o |
| ^ True, I have the same feeling. I wonder what's gonna happen next.. And the Major is awesome :D |
| The suspense was palpable! What an episode... Rise of the machines much? Lol |
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Leibstandarte said: Kvakond said: Did the Major actually hold back a military helicopter with bare hands? Yes, since she is a top grade military cyborg I guess she can do that. Other forums allude the scene to the Matrix. Remember the helicopter scene where Neo rescued Morpheus from the agents? It was said that it was Kamiyama's homage to the Matrix. The Matrix in turn have acknowledged that they were greatly influenced by Mamouru Oshii's 1995 movie. lol as soon as i saw that scene the Matrix scene came up in my head instantly. truly amazing work, but Ghost in the Shell SAC does it better :P i also hope they make another Animatrix, but this time directed by the studio that made the Stand Alone Complex series along Kamiyama-san. it doesn't have to star Neo or Trinity. they can make new characters that appear in the universe or a alternate reality of some sort. i just want more cyber-punk action O___O the agent from the cabinet members is scary as hell, you can't help but think he's a spy of some sort. overall amazing stuff, and i only noticed they replace the "Complex" episodes to "Dual" episodes. "Individual" remains the same and there is a new "Dividual" mark :P really REALLY LOVE this series and i can't believe i missed them out when it was released years ago. then again watching the BD's and man the animation is gorgeous O______O can't wait to see more :D |
SomaHeirJan 13, 2012 3:12 PM
| Cyberbird is truly an amazing track. I wasn't expecting that track to be played so early in the series but I'm glad it did. It's probably my favorite track of the OST. |
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| That intelligence agency guy just screams out antagonist just cause of his face, but we'll see. |
 "I like to expose what people hide. I'm an intellectual rapist." - Furudo Erika |
| Great episode again. Rogue helicopters sound scary. Those A.I really have a lot of independance. |
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| Well the episode was a story develop episode full of information about a new origination called the individual eleven... seems they'll be the main problem in this season. Not really that interesting to watch though these episodes are needed in these kind of story line anime's! |
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| Enjoyed this episode! The major holding back that helicopter was really something plus the Tachikomas calling out 'Batou-san' always makes me happy for some reason |
Is it just me or does the Major look a little different than from the first season? Must be the eyes. -___- |
nub said: Is it just me or does the Major look a little different than from the first season? Must be the eyes. -___- The character design changes drastically from one episode to the next depending on the staff. The first season was plagued by these inconsistencies as well. See below: The episode from your season 2 picture has the same art style used in the final episode of season 1. The first episode of season 2 looks like episode 23 of season 1, etc, etc. It's not a season thing, it's an episode thing. I don't know why but a lot of people only seem to notice during the second season. |
TopgunUKApr 29, 2013 6:54 PM
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TopgunUK said: The character design changes drastically from one episode to the next depending on the staff. Ah, that clears things up. The last two episodes featured this design. It only occurred to me when I saw a close-up of her face. I'm not sure about the other characters, but the Major's appearance stood out the most. It irks me a bit. Although, I'm enjoying this series too much that I shouldn't complain. |
| Another great episode. Looks like there is an conspiracy going on. And the agency guy is one ugly motherf**ker. Finally I got my daily dosage of Tachikoma's :P |
Always-HungryJun 12, 2013 3:49 PM
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| And, it looks like the main story is starting up. Interesting how those guys switched in those pills, as though they were covering up whatever the truth of the matter was. My thinking is that it really was a terrorist plot like Gouda suggested, or he was behind it to rouse up animosity with the refugees, like Aramaki suggested. Maybe it was the Individual Eleven? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Something's fishy...I smell a conspiracy by the intelligence agency. IMO, they might be wanting to overturn the current political scene, where the woman is in charged. After all, many politicians disagree and dislike her conservative stance, with many being either war veterans or generals after all. This is not a matter of petty crime nor corporate terrorism anymore, unlike 1st GIG, but highly likely a political subterfuge. |
| "If you reject me, I'll blast a hole in you!" Kanzaki H. Aria Just kidding.  |
| Holy shit. I know the Major is completely cybernized, but pulling an helicopter like that... That's more than badass. It was a really well done operation, but why would the helicopter do that? And why by destroying the cyber-brain would it deactivate the lock on the auto-command. Was the pilot behind all of this after all? Was he under someone control? And that infinite symbol, it wasn't there for no reason, further more, we see it again in the preview. I don't trust that new shit face from the government. He seem like the back-stabbing type. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
| That animation was like porn at times, I can only imagine how great that looked almost 10 years ago. |
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| 5/5 What is the continuation of the first episode in terms of the main theme? It seems so. Not bad this mix of action and intrigue, narrative promoted. Drawings and great secondary characters. Great OST, who will be the MC of this series along with the major Motoko? |
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| Gouda lol, he looks smells and talks like trouble. Intense ending to the episode, dayum. Really love that track that started playing when the tachikoma mobilised :D |
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| Gah it's Two-Face! Nice to see the production quality is so sharp this season. |
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| The Directing in this anime is amazing, Gouda looks interesting suspicious person. Great Episode. |
| Scary how he got killed with some strange stuff in his blood O_O |
| As if those men in black aren't suspicious enough Lol Tachikoma's reason.. Stomachache, why did they even try? xD |
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| The action scenes were great. Major Kusanagi is a hell of a soldier. |
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| So this was the first dual episode. So far I thought that the Individual Eleven would be the only main story line in this season, but based on the words of the chief at the end of this episode I asume that there will be second one focussing on the refuge/goverment conflict. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| BAHAH the way their "stomach" suddenly hurt and requested to leave, also kinda sad at the same time that they're about to kill one of the own kinds. |
| Hornets vs Spiders The major holding down that helicopter was some captain america sh*t x2 |
  NYANPASU  whiskey tango foxtrot |
| Machines battling each other is bound to be fun. The music playing during that part was epic as well. Speaking of music, the track that played when Aramaki was talking to the weird guy sounded like someone was playing with a kazoo. I couldn't take it seriously XD |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ╔⏤═⏤╝   ╚⏤═⏤╗☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
| The tachikoma and then the major stopping that helicopter from moving was badass. What a close call it was for her when Saito sniped the pilot when he did. A classic case of when an AI does its job well, but it's not the job you want it to do! |
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| Good action, but I guess a new timeline warrants another Matrix tribute and weaker armor in favor of agility. 7/10 |
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