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Mar 29, 2013 5:39 PM
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It has been some time masterpieces are not showing up. Animes like SAO, Code Breaker and such were good, but they were not memorable, neither masterpieces, just a good experience.

It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched. I'm watching One Piece and it were better when it was ep 1 - 400. After 400 it became modern and something changed... Something not good changed.

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?
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Mar 29, 2013 5:41 PM
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lupadim said:

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?

well masterpieces don't come in abundance, but there will be more.
Mar 29, 2013 5:42 PM
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I'm somewhat new to the scene of anime so I am automatically hopeful to see new releases being 'master pieces.'

I'm not buying "90% is shit" mentality just yet.

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
Mar 29, 2013 5:42 PM
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Mike_the_Great said:
lupadim said:

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?

well masterpieces don't come in abundance, but there will be more.


It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched. I'm watching One Piece and it were better when it was ep 1 - 400. After 400 it became modern and something changed... Something not good changed.
Mar 29, 2013 5:43 PM
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Personally I don't care if something is a 'masterpiece' or not. There will be fun and entertaining anime for a long time, and I'm fine with that.
Mar 29, 2013 5:43 PM
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etatau said:
Quick! If we convince him that anime will never be good again, he might leave the forum!


You are so funny I wish I could be like you, your life must be so good! Trolling at serious discussion threads! I hope a mod don't erase your post!
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You are so funny I wish I could be like you, your life must be so good! Trolling at serious discussion threads! I hope a mod don't erase your post!


>disingenuous OP
>serious discussion

Oh, you slay me.
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Mar 29, 2013 5:44 PM
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No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.
Mar 29, 2013 5:45 PM
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I'm only have faith in my religious.
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No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.

I am rather sad it ended so soon....

Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is.
Mar 29, 2013 5:46 PM

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No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.


You think it is a masterpiece? Why?
Mar 29, 2013 5:48 PM

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lupadim said:
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No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.


You think it is a masterpiece? Why?


Simple words cannot describe the greatness behind Inferno Cop.
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Yes, I have complete faith in the modern anime industry to provide us with very good anime.

I think the problem with people saying that there are no recent masterpieces is that they are mistaking popular opinion for a measure of a show's actual worth. For example, to you, Sakurasou (just a random, made up example) may have been a drop-worthy, shitty show, but to me, it may in fact have been a masterpiece. Trust me: there's plenty of good that's come quite recently. Ya know?

What defines a masterpiece anyway? Sure, the last few years have seen lots of moe shows (which itself isn't even a bad thing, much to DateYukata's surprise, I'd imagine), but anyone who says that no good shows are coming out has obviously not watched many of the recent series past the first one or two episodes (though, again, this is still my own personal opinion).

Just because there are no shows that the majority of fans are unanimously praising (like Steins;Gate or Clannad: AS or whatever), there are still plenty of very good shows that have come out quite recently.

So yeah, I'm perfectly happy with the way things are now.

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mitch3315 said:
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No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.


You think it is a masterpiece? Why?


Simple words cannot describe the greatness behind Inferno Cop.


Put it at PTW and will watch it
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lupadim said:
mitch3315 said:
No masterpieces? You obviously have not yet watched Inferno Cop.


You think it is a masterpiece? Why?
It's so bad that people think it's good.

OnT: I'm pretty sure other masterpieces will come but idm even if they don't, I just finished Psycho-Pass and for the most part I thought of it as a masterpiece, shame it didn't turn out the way i'd have liked it to have turned out but oh well at least I know good shows are still being made.
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horrible seasons like the one with sao in it do make if feel like modern anime is hopeless

but tbh it isn't that bad, 2010 had some super amazing stuff like katanagatari with is by far a masterpiece

2012 ended nicely with inferno cop(seriously) and ofc Jojo's. 2012 fall had stuff that is actually worth watching unlike past seasons

so this new decade isn't really doomed yet despite some of it's seasons being prob the weakest ones in anime history
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lupadim said:
Mike_the_Great said:
lupadim said:

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?

well masterpieces don't come in abundance, but there will be more.


It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched. I'm watching One Piece and it were better when it was ep 1 - 400. After 400 it became modern and something changed... Something not good changed.

Psycho-pass, which just finished airing, was actually very good. You should give it a try once you have time it might give you your hope back.
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The thing that is happening A LOT in today animes is inserting too many boobs to sell more and too many fillers.
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That's all opinionated, but yes of course I have faith in current, modern, and future animation. There's no need to be an elitist when it comes to anime, everyone can derive personal enjoyment out of some aspect of modern storyline, animation, or character in current anime.




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lupadim said:
It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched.

Dude, what? Death Note is not a part of "modern animes"?
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Faith has a name, and that name is Masaaki Yuasa.

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It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched.

Dude, what? Death Note is not a part of "modern animes"?


Its 2007 anime, I am talking about 2012 and 2013
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I think there will still be good stuff to come but perhaps we are just going into a depression of excellent stuff.
Mar 29, 2013 5:56 PM

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lupadim how old are you?
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lupadim said:
Tiago97 said:
Faith has a name, and that name is Masaaki Yuasa.

lupadim said:
It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched.

Dude, what? Death Note is not a part of "modern animes"?


Its 2007 anime, I am talking about 2012 and 2013

I don't know what your standard for a masterpiece is, but you can't expect one to come out every year...
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Tiago97 said:
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Faith has a name, and that name is Masaaki Yuasa.

lupadim said:
It has been years we don't see a Death-Note style, Cowboy Bebop-style or such. It has been years a must-watch is not launched.

Dude, what? Death Note is not a part of "modern animes"?


Its 2007 anime, I am talking about 2012 and 2013

I don't know what your standard for a masterpiece is, but you can't expect one to come out every year...


Ok, I am talking about FIVE years. 2008 ~ 2013 is what I call the new season. Death NOte is 2007.
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Of course there'll be more masterpieces. Urobuchi will be working on them.
Mar 29, 2013 5:58 PM

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masterpiece are call masterpiece because they're rare.
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Mar 29, 2013 5:59 PM

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It really depends on what your definition of a "masterpiece" is.

Which really can't be argued in any respectable sense because any one person's masterpiece is going to be crap to someone else. The topic is far, far too subjective and this thread really has nowhere to go because of that.
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lupadim said:
[..]. Animes like SAO, Code Breaker and such were good, [...]


Even though it was most likely involuntarily that was actually a good comparison. Those were indeed of equal quality.
I probably regret this post by now.
Mar 29, 2013 6:00 PM

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Yes I do.


I do.

Mar 29, 2013 6:00 PM

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>animes

When will they learn...
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I won't say current anime is bad it's just not what I like, it's definitely straying further and further into moeblob trash territory that I absolutely detest but thats what sells so thats what they make.

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[..]. Animes like SAO, Code Breaker and such were good, [...]


Even though it was most likely involuntarily that was actually a good comparison. Those were indeed of equal quality.


SAO was a plothole and Code Breaker had no plot, so yes, equal quality.
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Do you have faith in the modern animes?

Well, I wouldn't be watching currently airing and anticipating anime from the upcoming season if I didn't.

Also, I don't think you understand the implication behind the word masterpiece. A masterpiece doesn't show up every season.
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

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Yes, i have faith
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lupadim said:

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?

Considering you've only finished 20 anime, I think it's strange that you've brought up this topic. Also, Everyone has their own idea of what a masterpiece is because something might seem like a masterpiece to me but not to you. Therefore, I have faith that something will come eventually.
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lupadim said:

I am starting to think there will be no masterpieces anymore. What you think?

Considering you've only finished 20 anime, I think it's strange that you've brought up this topic. Also, Everyone has their own idea of what a masterpiece is because something might seem like a masterpiece to me but not to you. Therefore, I have faith that something will come eventually.


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You have seen like 30 anime. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, so please avoid making such bold statements.
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So I need to have a lot of anime in my list to be able to discuss? Wait, let's do like 50% of this website and add all anime I find in my completed list so I can discuss with those idiots.
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The 2011, I was blessed with Madoka, Steins;Gate, Cross Game, Usagi Drop, AnoHana, Tamayura.
Then 2012, Shinsekai Yori, Jinrui Suitai, Natsume Yuujinchou, Hyouka...


I still believe.

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So I need to have a lot of anime in my list to be able to discuss? Wait, let's do like 50% of this website and add all anime I find in my completed list so I can discuss with those idiots.


50% is a lot...

But saying there won't be anymore masterpieces after just 20 anime watched is really a bit.... Here's the thing, I've completed over 300 and I consider myself far from fit to say the things you do.


Just watch anime, if you find something that really resonate with you, good.
If not, it's still an entertaining pass-time
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I have faith that something will come eventually.


One of these days... :/
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I have low expectations for them so that I won't get grumpy about anime that are horribly bad. And I enjoy good ones more than I did before.
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lupadim said:
So I need to have a lot of anime in my list to be able to discuss? Wait, let's do like 50% of this website and add all anime I find in my completed list so I can discuss with those idiots.


If you have seen only 30 anime, you have no right, perspective, or experience with which to base a claim like 'modern anime is dying'. Especially when you use Death Note as an example of when things used to be better. You are talking about things that you have no knowledge of.
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lupadim said:
So I need to have a lot of anime in my list to be able to discuss? Wait, let's do like 50% of this website and add all anime I find in my completed list so I can discuss with those idiots.
I don't really care about your list, but it does make you less credible when you start questioning masterpieces. The more you've seen, the thicker the line you'll be able to draw between the bad, mediocre and good anime.

Masterpieces, on the other hand, aren't just good or great series, but they're the ones that transcend the medium and can be called supreme. Everyone has a different opinion on what makes a masterpiece, and I, surely, don't go around calling anime I rated 10/10 masterpieces -- they're just the anime that I thought were great and personally loved.
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does anyone really believe a masterpiece is subjective? you might not like a masterpiece yourself, that still doesn't change the fact that it's a masterpiece. you might feel the opposite about a show that is all-around critically praised, but can you actually form coherent reasons as to why that masterpiece should be torn down from it's pedestal? it's not subjective. majority of critical opinion = masterpiece, at least 9.9 times out of 10. and like it's been stated, they don't come around that often.
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does anyone really believe a masterpiece is subjective? you might not like a masterpiece yourself, that still doesn't change the fact that it's a masterpiece. you might feel the opposite about a show that is all-around critically praised, but can you actually form coherent reasons as to why that masterpiece should be torn down from it's pedestal? it's not subjective. majority of critical opinion = masterpiece, at least 9.9 times out of 10. and like it's been stated, they don't come around that often.
The definition of a masterpiece varies from person to person. It's pretty much the most subjective thing in the history of subjectivity.
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First of all Death Note is not even something I would remotely consider a masterpiece.

To answer your question yes I have faith in modern anime, there are tons of good modern shows out there, you just have to sift through all the crap to find them.
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I consider Steins;Gate and Chihayafuru to be masterpieces. Sakamichi no Apollon and Hanasaku Iroha comes close. But judging from all the anime you name, it looks like you're looking for something more shounen.
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