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Feb 25, 2013 4:16 PM
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A majority of the "vanilla" porn animation that the Japanese make have a lot of cheating (NTR) in them. I don't know about you, but this makes me sad rather than aroused.

Pornography aside, it's disgusting to see some anime producers making some oh-so-cute romance (as an example) and then turning around to make a massively violent/gory and/or unspeakably vile anime. This is definitely "cheating" on the fans. It's betrayal. Some fans, like myself, look up the producers of anime that we like the most, only to find that the producers only made one or two anime of that genre just to tease people who are into that said genre. What's worse is, these producers presented the genre way too well sometimes, and it breaks our hearts.
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Feb 25, 2013 4:18 PM
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*raise hand* Example anime please!!!
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Feb 25, 2013 4:21 PM
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NeoAnkara said:
*raise hand* Example anime please!!!


Hand down, we're trying to avoid violence
Feb 25, 2013 4:23 PM
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natssuu said:
NeoAnkara said:
*raise hand* Example anime please!!!


Hand down, we're trying to avoid violence
Awwww.
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Feb 25, 2013 4:25 PM
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NeoAnkara said:
*raise hand* Example anime please!!!
Sure, I'll enlighten you.

Producer: Production I.G.

2 contradicting anime:

oh-so-cute --> Usagi Drop

Oh god, the guts... --> Blood-C
Feb 25, 2013 4:29 PM
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Massively violent/gory and/or unspeakably vile anime is very entertaining. Anyway, in hentai it'd get boring if it was the same two people every time for 15-30 minutes. Cheating in romance anime is just trolling and I've never seen it any of the romance I've seen, besides harem that's different.
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stanklem28 said:
NeoAnkara said:
*raise hand* Example anime please!!!
Sure, I'll enlighten you.

Producer: Production I.G.

2 contradicting anime:

oh-so-cute --> Usagi Drop

Oh god, the guts... --> Blood-C
Unfortunately I haven't seen anime you mention.
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Feb 25, 2013 4:31 PM
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Massively violent/gory and/or unspeakably vile anime is very entertaining. Anyway, in hentai it'd get boring if it was the same two people every time for 15-30 minutes. Cheating in romance anime is just trolling and I've never seen it any of the romance I've seen, besides harem that's different.
Like Skool Deyz? :|

Same 2 people for 15-30 minutes isn't boring. If it is, then show new couples...easy. I'm pretty sure the hentai producers just get hard on seeing people get cheated on. That's psychologically sadistic.
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NeoAnkara said:
stanklem28 said:
NeoAnkara said:
*raise hand* Example anime please!!!
Sure, I'll enlighten you.

Producer: Production I.G.

2 contradicting anime:

oh-so-cute --> Usagi Drop

Oh god, the guts... --> Blood-C
Unfortunately I haven't seen anime you mention.


I haven't either so I went on youtube and did this.

Usagi Drop


Blood-C
Feb 25, 2013 4:35 PM

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The idea that a studio should stick to one genre and not diversify things is, quite frankly, stupid.

Also, "Vanilla" hentai is a term that only applies to something with romantic sex between two lovers. Thus netorare, which is what you are referring to, is not vanilla.
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Feb 25, 2013 4:38 PM

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stanklem28 said:
MEanimaniac1 said:
Massively violent/gory and/or unspeakably vile anime is very entertaining. Anyway, in hentai it'd get boring if it was the same two people every time for 15-30 minutes. Cheating in romance anime is just trolling and I've never seen it any of the romance I've seen, besides harem that's different.
Like Skool Deyz? :|

Same 2 people for 15-30 minutes isn't boring. If it is, then show new couples...easy. I'm pretty sure the hentai producers just get hard on seeing people get cheated on. That's psychologically sadistic.


No, I don't like School Days, that's a train wreck. That's not even massively violent, Corpse Party is more like it. Hentai is not supposed to be watched for it's 'brilliant' plot, it's just to get a hard on. Maybe producers do get a hard on from it, but it does appeal to certain fetishes that people may have.
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What the fuck is "cheating"?
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Feb 25, 2013 4:47 PM

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The idea that a studio should stick to one genre and not diversify things is, quite frankly, stupid.


Wait? Thats what this thread is about?
Thats indeed rather stupid, yes.

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stanklem28 said:
A majority of the "vanilla" porn animation that the Japanese make have a lot of cheating in them. I don't know about you, but this makes me sad rather than aroused.


Stop watching NTR hentai.

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Also, "Vanilla" hentai is a term that only applies to something with romantic sex between two lovers. Thus netorare, which is what you are referring to, is not vanilla.
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katsucats said:
What the fuck is "cheating"?


I thought this thread would be about cheating on tests.

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Feb 25, 2013 5:00 PM

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Okay, I just re-read the OP like 5 times, so you're saying production studios are cheating on the fans because you expect that if they made 1 anime that you like, then all their other anime should have the same values...? What are you, like 11?
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Feb 25, 2013 5:01 PM

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nah they have a hard on for tentacles and rape

Feb 25, 2013 5:08 PM

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Plun said:
katsucats said:
What the fuck is "cheating"?


I thought this thread would be about cheating on tests.


Me too ;(
Feb 25, 2013 5:21 PM

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stanklem28 said:
A majority of the "vanilla" porn animation that the Japanese make have a lot of cheating in them.


That's not vanilla.

And the rest of what you said is just hilarious.
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Does school days fall into this category?


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Feb 25, 2013 5:39 PM

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doesnt cheating happen is every romance anime
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Yeah there seems to be an abundance of NTR hentai, considering I've never been in a serious relationship I guess I can't really relate to them, but the feeling must be appealing to atleast some people. Also you can't argue that its a very powerful emotion and adds a lot of tension to the story (if there is one)

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Feb 25, 2013 5:49 PM
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battosai-01 said:
Yeah there seems to be an abundance of NTR hentai, considering I've never been in a serious relationship I guess I can't really relate to them, but the feeling must be appealing to atleast some people. Also you can't argue that its a very powerful emotion and adds a lot of tension to the story (if there is one)
NTR pisses me off to no end. I get this same feeling towards anime studios that cheat on their fans.

I guess it all stems from the feeling of being betrayed.
Feb 25, 2013 5:54 PM

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stanklem28 said:
NTR pisses me off to no end. I get this same feeling towards anime studios that cheat on their fans.

I guess it all stems from the feeling of being betrayed.


Sounds like you have some issues you need to resolve.
Feb 25, 2013 6:20 PM

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Zeally said:
nah they have a hard on for tentacles and rape


Who doesn't?
Feb 25, 2013 6:41 PM

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You should see alot of american shows and movies. people seem obsessed with it there




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NTR is a thing because it usually shows a woman being "stolen" from a decent guy, by a disgusting nasty guy. The kind of guy that hentai manga is targeted at.

It's like it kind of gives the pathetic virgin losers hope that, maybe someday, they too can steal a woman from a better man.

That, and the desire to see negative emotions forced onto the one being cheated on (the guy), stems from some sort of jealousy.
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NTR is a thing because it usually shows a woman being "stolen" from a decent guy, by a disgusting nasty guy. The kind of guy that hentai manga is targeted at.

It's like it kind of gives the pathetic virgin losers hope that, maybe someday, they too can steal a woman from a better man.

That, and the desire to see negative emotions forced onto the one being cheated on (the guy), stems from some sort of jealousy.
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Feb 25, 2013 7:19 PM

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Thank you Doctor. Tell us more.
I'm just doing OP a favor of informing him why the "Japanese have a hard-on for cheating".

OP, if it doesn't appeal to you, then good. You aren't in the target audience of pathetic, pussy-starved, virginal, dirty losers. :)
Feb 25, 2013 7:21 PM

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OP you are taking hentai too serious...
Feb 25, 2013 7:27 PM

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OP complains about hentai then suggests that studios should stick to only one genre. People take him seriously. Yeah, I'm the only sane person around here.
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Red_Keys said:
NTR is a thing because it usually shows a woman being "stolen" from a decent guy, by a disgusting nasty guy. The kind of guy that hentai manga is targeted at.

It's like it kind of gives the pathetic virgin losers hope that, maybe someday, they too can steal a woman from a better man.

That, and the desire to see negative emotions forced onto the one being cheated on (the guy), stems from some sort of jealousy.
Actually, even if the guy doing the stealing was a hulking piece of work and the guy who got his girlfriend/wife stolen from him is ugly as shit, it still feels wrong and saddening, considering that he loved his girlfriend/wife. Put yourself inside the ugly-ass guy's shoes. How would that make you feel?

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OP you are taking hentai too serious...
Maybe

I actually watch some hentai anime over for the plot after my business is done.
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How about this, Wikiboy: Don't watch NTR hentai if you don't like it, and watching hentai for plot... really, man? Come on.
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Feb 25, 2013 7:52 PM
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stanklem28 said:
A majority of the "vanilla" porn animation that the Japanese make have a lot of cheating (NTR) in them. I don't know about you, but this makes me sad rather than aroused.

There are many worse things than NTR in hentai.

Pornography aside, it's disgusting to see some anime producers making some oh-so-cute romance (as an example) and then turning around to make a massively violent/gory and/or unspeakably vile anime. This is definitely "cheating" on the fans. It's betrayal. Some fans, like myself, look up the producers of anime that we like the most, only to find that the producers only made one or two anime of that genre just to tease people who are into that said genre. What's worse is, these producers presented the genre way too well sometimes, and it breaks our hearts.

Yeah, how dare those bastards not make the same type of anime over and over *shakes fist*

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I just needed to point an Usagi Drop's spoiler that may ruin the "cute" thing pointed before:
Feb 25, 2013 8:00 PM

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The negative emotions are purposfully created most likely stemming from jealousy, like I already said. The mentality of "you have a girlfriend! You are my enemy! I hope you die!" It's quite common in anime.

That's also a theory I have for why guys get hit so much in harem ecchi anime. It's kind of like retribution; because they are surrounded by girls, they deserve to be punished.

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Put yourself inside the ugly-ass guy's shoes. How would that make you feel?

Thank's to NTR's target audience, people don't have to do much to put themselves in those shoes.

Because most of them probably look something like this:


I'm not an expert on hentai, but I have yet to see one where an ugly ass guy gets his girlfriend stolen by an attractive guy. Unless the ugly guy was purposefully made out to be an asshole, and the attractive guy "saves" her.
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Don't forget rape.
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I'm not an expert on hentai, but I have yet to see one where an ugly ass guy gets his girlfriend stolen by an attractive guy. Unless the ugly guy was purposefully made out to be an asshole, and the attractive guy "saves" her.
I haven't seen one either, but I'm just saying.

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Yeah, how dare those bastards not make the same type of anime over and over *shakes fist*
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Red_Keys said:
NTR is a thing because it usually shows a woman being "stolen" from a decent guy, by a disgusting nasty guy. The kind of guy that hentai manga is targeted at.

It's like it kind of gives the pathetic virgin losers hope that, maybe someday, they too can steal a woman from a better man.

That, and the desire to see negative emotions forced onto the one being cheated on (the guy), stems from some sort of jealousy.


Actually, the guy who gets his girlfriend stolen is usually the protagonist and self insert for the person watching. The idea is to cause the person watching to rouse jealous feelings and "rage fap" as a result of that. Your first two paragraphs are referring more to the "Netori" sub-genre where the protagonist is the one stealing the girl.

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I just needed to point an Usagi Drop's spoiler that may ruin the "cute" thing pointed before:


I think people should just get over it already.
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Yeah, how dare those bastards not make the same type of anime over and over *shakes fist*
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It would be completely asinine for a studio to specialize in only one genre, because it is business. Variety means profit. Simple concepts are simple.
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stanklem28 said:
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Yeah, how dare those bastards not make the same type of anime over and over *shakes fist*
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It would be completely asinine for a company studio to specialize in only one genre, because it is business. Variety means profit. Simple concepts are simple.


Not in Stanklem land apparently.
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insan3soldiern said:
Actually, the guy who gets his girlfriend stolen is usually the protagonist and self insert for the person watching. The idea is to cause the person watching to rouse jealous feelings and "rage fap" as a result of that. Your first two paragraphs are referring more to the "Netori" sub-genre where the protagonist is the one stealing the girl.
Dafuq? rage fap? lol
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NTR, is basically watching your GF, who supposedly loves you, but is forced to have sex with some stranger (Either rape or something in a similar setting) Ends up enjoying the sex with the stranger and basically falling in love with them, right in front of the BF's eyes. Who at the same time is turned on by the sight.

Alot of hentai like that are pretty much boring and a turn off. Its another Fetish I don't understand.
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and watching hentai for plot... really, man? Come on.

You mean anime like Sono hanabira?

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and watching hentai for plot... really, man? Come on.

You mean anime like Sono hanabira?
I don't know...? I don't go on epic quests to find hentai with plot. Even though Evangelion: Re-Take, a doujin, is outstanding.
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insan3soldiern said:
The idea that a studio should stick to one genre and not diversify things is, quite frankly, stupid.
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insan3soldiern said:
Holybaptiser said:
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Yeah, how dare those bastards not make the same type of anime over and over *shakes fist*
Jack of all trades, master of none.
It would be completely asinine for a company studio to specialize in only one genre, because it is business. Variety means profit. Simple concepts are simple.


Not in Stanklem land apparently.


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Holybaptiser said:
and watching hentai for plot... really, man? Come on.

You mean anime like Sono hanabira?


It doesn't have much too any plot. I'm sure people scored it high because it had two extremely cute girls doing more than just 'cute' things then you have Kuttsukiboshi which has obviously more plot (won't say a lot more) and scored lower.

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The idea that a studio should stick to one genre and not diversify things is, quite frankly, stupid.


Tell that to P.A. Works and KyoAni. A majority of all their recent released titles are slice of life genre and/or school life theme. Maybe like one exception being P.A.'s horror anime, Another.
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insan3soldiern said:
The idea that a studio should stick to one genre and not diversify things is, quite frankly, stupid.
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Madoka? Not really gory and violent but still a troll.
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