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Apr 25, 2008 2:19 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I was really surprised when they revealed that Grimmer's friend, was Roberto =O

And I wonder, why does Johan want Tenma to be all alone. Is it because Tenma brought back Johan, when he wanted to get killed?
Sep 17, 2008 7:42 PM
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maybe because of that
Dec 29, 2008 11:06 PM
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wow it would be amazing if it was just tenma at the end. interesting backstories as well.
Apr 11, 2009 2:34 AM
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Still wondering what entails this "deepest memory."
Aug 15, 2009 12:11 PM
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Wow I would've never guessed Roberto was Grimmer's friend from Kinderheim 511 ;o

P.S. I hate how they made Nina into a basket case in the end -.-
Aug 15, 2009 11:08 PM
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Heck, this is getting a 10 from me no matter what.

And what the fuck? Roberto was Adolf; the friend of Grimmer... No really, this is just fucking epic. Then again at the Runge scene being strangulated... Bloody hell.

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Aug 30, 2009 5:11 AM
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Runge is badass =D
Jan 3, 2010 7:03 AM
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Runge=win :P
Jan 26, 2010 3:09 AM
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I was very surprised to find out that Roberto was Grimmer's friend. So great.
Runge was very badass in this episode too. "Those calculations don't add up in the computer in my head"!
A-mazing.

"I created a monster."
"And I brought that monster back to life."
May 30, 2010 8:09 PM

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Safeeee I thought Mamiko Noto was going to go crazy and somebody would need to kill her. I still think she's going to die though...
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Jul 27, 2010 7:50 AM

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Lunge, you're just awesome... :D

Roberto to be Grimmer's friend is quite surprising but what would be their reaction

to see each other again after knowing they're friends?? Anyway, Grimmer is just dead..

I missed those smiles :(

"I created a monster." "I revived the monster." Those lines are catchy :)
Nov 22, 2010 5:17 PM

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Yea excellent episode runge was a baddass and really showed roberto

looks like johan is finalyl gonna join the party

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May 21, 2011 4:22 AM

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D:
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~
Dec 31, 2011 10:39 PM

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OMG!? :D
Feb 22, 2012 4:02 AM

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yo Lunge show him da BKA flex! :P
Mar 23, 2012 11:52 AM

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so roberto was his friend...
Mar 25, 2012 10:43 PM

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Good job Lunge.
Jun 14, 2012 6:33 AM
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Runge and Roberto make most other fights look weak. Runge is one tough SOB.

Did Johan kill his mother? Did Nina?
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Jun 14, 2012 11:42 AM

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Yes it was really suprising that Adolf is Roberto. And the battle between him and Runge was imo awesome. Almost through all story Runge irritated me, but the final episodes convinced me to him. ;)
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Jul 23, 2012 8:53 PM

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Lunge just turned into a beast these last few episodes.
Oct 2, 2012 11:07 AM

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Wow I really thought Roberto would be quite a bit older than somebody like Grimmer... Also that's messed up that Roberto is the guy who is with Lunge's wife although I guess karma's a bitch. She won't be living too well without a job and no man to support her... I hope to god Lunge doesn't take her back. Aside from all of that Nina is flipping insane! She reminded me of dialogues between Gollum and Smeagol in Lord of the Rings.
Nov 25, 2012 10:13 PM

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To say Lunge was a badass throughout this entire episode would be a complete understatement.
Dec 2, 2012 3:16 PM

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I like the new Lunge very much.

And it was depressing to see that Grimmer's good friend turned into such jerk. But anyway... DIE ROBERTO!
Dec 21, 2012 1:23 PM

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Good episode.

Oh man that Lunge and Roberto's fight it was awesome. And hopefully Lunge will win it. Tenma helping more people again.

And Nina go to that place where Bonaparta was drawing pictures of the twins. And finally Johan is going to end it all.

It was so sad to hear that Grimmer's good friend was Roberto. So that would mean Roberto was also in Kinderheim 511.

Bonaparte admitted his crime which was good. Hopefully they can make to hotel right on time. I already thought Nina is gonna go to berserk again in that cottage but luckily that didn't happened. 2 more episodes to go.

5/5
Dec 31, 2012 12:21 AM

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Wow Lunge is such a bad ass!

I wish we could have seen Roberto and Grimmer reunite. Would have been cool to possibly see more of their childhood if it sparked up some memories by seeing each other.
Jan 30, 2013 10:51 AM

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The backstories are really good. Lunge was pretty badass this time.

Feb 28, 2013 2:57 PM
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That moment when Roberto knows more about your grandson than yourself.
I didn't imagine cocoa boy being an important detail that ended up tying back to him.

I was honestly about to yell if Roberto was successful in strangling and killing Lunge.

Anna's memory recalls are so built up then they turn anti-climatic at the last second. -_-
Mar 14, 2013 5:47 PM

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God I love Lunge, he just gives 0 fucks
Apr 29, 2013 9:37 AM

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Nice job Lunge.
May 9, 2013 5:29 AM

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Aaah, that scene where Nina was remembering her mother and talking to herself was excellent!

But Roberto still lives? I hope he will die soon! Battle royale in Ruhenheim is coming to an end.
Aug 23, 2013 1:37 PM
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Ha I was right Roberto was Grimmer's friend back when they were young and also Lunge is pretty badass this episode and I hope Anna doesn't die last 2 episodes let's see what's next
Nov 8, 2013 2:36 AM

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excellent episode!!!

Lunge was badass and very alert of his surroundings!! and what the hell Roberto is sleeping with Lunge's wife?!?! seriously how the hell does he get so many women just like that!? he's not even good looking AT ALL. in fact he look like a fucking pig rapist as far as i know. Money must be a beautiful thing!!

i also can't believed Roberto is Grimmers friend. this is fucked up, guess only Grimmer is the one that was able to control his emotions all these years. so Grimmer and Roberto are the only ones that survived the Kinderheim 511 incident huh?

Lunge getting beat up :( how the hell did Roberto carried Lunge body flying out of the door yet he has a injury on his right arm lol.

man Lunge should have ripped his stomach some more!! i don't know why Lunge keeps giving Roberto a chance to live. he should have died in the library incident 40+ episodes ago!!! just kill that fucker!!

one of the best lines ever from Lunge!!

"Those calculations don't add up in the computer in my head"

why the hell did i smile during the scene when Lunge finished saying this XD

so now Lunge believes that Johan does indeed exists!!

so Franz Bonparta fell in love with the Twin's mother?! what i don't get is why Johan and Anna's mother? didn't they have a lot of couples during the original experiment.

it's funny how the original Monster is basically Franz himself. killed everyone that knew about the twins until no one but them are alive. if Tenma didn't save Johan none of this would have happened. though Anna would probably would never know the truth all these years

Anna's memories are almost complete!! so Johan was crying!?! i knew he still have emotions just like Grimmer said. you cannot erase your emotions forever. it just wanders somewhere in your head for awhile.

now the last two episodes are here. i don't know what will happen now T___T
Dec 13, 2013 8:44 PM

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Lunge has improved as a character, that's for sure.

Unfortunately the scenes with Nina are getting a bit annoying and overdramatic, even though they are important.
Dec 24, 2013 1:06 PM

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to think that i used to hate Lunge
glad Nina didnt go insane, for a moment there i thought she was gonna snap
Jan 9, 2014 5:46 AM

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I knew lunge was awesome since the beginning
EL PSY KONGROO!!!
Jan 28, 2014 5:43 PM
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Omg lunge scared the heck out of me!:0 He lost his cool! I was cringing in pain when I saw him do that to Adolf (Roberto). He squeezed his blood outta him like he was a juice box!:0
Mar 22, 2014 12:48 PM

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Lunge=beast.

Mar 30, 2014 6:44 PM
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Lunge F*CKING OWNS

And Roberto was Grimmer's friend? Holy shit
Apr 21, 2014 12:10 PM

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-Tien- said:


Unfortunately the scenes with Nina are getting a bit annoying and overdramatic, even though they are important.


I love Nina, but they really overused these scenes with her
May 1, 2014 6:49 AM

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Lunge was awesome.

And I'm still wondering if Johan is actually going to die.
May 26, 2014 9:07 PM

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Lunge has a fast trigger :P.
Roberto = Adolf
didn't see that one coming o_o

May 31, 2014 10:41 PM

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Kayro said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I was really surprised when they revealed that Grimmer's friend, was Roberto =O

And I wonder, why does Johan want Tenma to be all alone. Is it because Tenma brought back Johan, when he wanted to get killed?

wasn't it already mentioned quite some time ago? The part whereby he was in Prague and the secret police head was mentioning his nephew which was Adolf. I mean it was already heavily hinted throughout. Why would Roberto even be under Johann, right?
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May 31, 2014 10:42 PM

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and Lunge was
Squeezed his wounds and fcukin inserted the gun in his goddamn throat!
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Jun 15, 2014 9:31 PM

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I was wrong! Lunge didn't die! Yay!! Who knew he was so awesome even without his calm composure? XD

Can't believe Roberto was Adolf. That's just... no. It was like Grimmer's only decent memory of the orphanage, and it turned out to be him!? That's terrible. But well done. Good twist.

This;

"I created a monster."
"And I brought that monster back to life."
Sep 9, 2014 4:47 AM

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Evatallica said:
-Tien- said:


Unfortunately the scenes with Nina are getting a bit annoying and overdramatic, even though they are important.


I love Nina, but they really overused these scenes with her


Agreed.

But other than that, these last few episodes have been godlike. Lunge is... so good. I'm glad he didn't just get killed immediately by Roberto. Maybe he will still die (soon), I dunno, but I'm glad he got some more time to shine.
Feb 25, 2015 4:43 PM

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Lunge was just amazing. i liked him since the begining but now, i like him more :D
Apr 4, 2015 7:46 AM
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Loved every part when Lunge kicked Roberto's scummy ass.
Apr 27, 2015 12:07 PM

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Wow, Lunge just shot up my favorite characters so fast in the last couple episodes.

Also, Roberto being that Adolf kid is something I did not see coming.
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May 3, 2015 1:05 AM

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Damn, I was waiting for this for so long. Lunge is the best!
Jul 30, 2015 9:44 AM

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*Oh god Lunge, when he turned his back on the bathroom door, took his hand from his gun, and opened the bathroom blinds. What are you playing at man, trying to give me a heart attack, not after Grimmer.
*What the. No. Give me Lunge back.
*The opening sequence of Monster is seriously one of the best OPs of any anime I've watched. Only two more OPs left :(.
*Bonaparta the sly dog. Killed 43 people because he fell in love, wow.
*Wow, Roberto still manages to overpower Lunge.
*Bonaparta knew 10 years ago, he visited them. He was the 'monster'.
*Bonaparta created the monster, Tenma revived it... nice.
*Oh my, that Lunge face with his tongue sticking out. Now why couldn't he do that to make his grand kid laugh instead of when Roberto is attacking him.
*Team Lunge. Turned that one AROUND.
*Nina with her hushed dramatic tones, repeating quotes like a robot, and constantly talking about her horrible past.
*So instead of the oldies handling the gun, they give it to Wim.
*I'm really confused with what Nina is saying, she's describing Johan like some type of hero: 'he was crying in this room', 'he's gone to town to end everything.'

It's really only an okay episode, story wise nothing much has developed apart from Lunge overpowering Roberto, and Nina/Rudy finding the drawings.
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