16bit Sensation: Another Layer Episode 6 Discussion

So, all emotions aside, since the president was basically a victim of fraud, shouldn't he have gotten the money reimbursed by the court or something?

@Inexplicable If it's like in Poland..it's gonna take ages, and not every company gonna get money back, especially if conman already spent most money :(

Lol the Y2K fear. I never got why people were even concerned with that. It's super easy to just put the clocks forward on computers to see what happens. Not sure why there was this claim of some cyber apocalypse. *shakes head*

¥1,000,000,000 ? Damnnnnn.....that's like very roughly nearly 10 million dollars. You would think Konoha would just find out what the company Toya got to work with and go there. She was dressed in cosplay so she has a way to find her by looking for a game with a character like that with her credited to it.


Not sure how it works in Japan but I assume the money was gone otherwise it would just have been returned by the police unless it's being held eternally as evidence.


I dont think indifference is the right word. She basically is on a power trip of knowing how to use her body and sexuality to manipulate men. This is to cover her previously insecure timid demeanor. It is not quite clear if she actually looks down on men or if she only just took on a sexually dominant demeanor.

I was there too, but I just remember television and magazines putting fear into people to profit from the issue lol. For PCs in common use or in average companies, I don't think it was a big deal, as apparently it wasn't.

But in my country, banks and even possibly the central bank didn't used to have the most top notch data centers, and as we saw in today's episode what happened with Masaru, when it comes to money, things get serious. Overnight, the records of financial transactions could all be ruined and the economic collapse would begin. But they paid early attention to this and managed to avoid this and other potential problems.

Yikes, she got TWISTED so hard. How she become so indifferent to people idk.

@LostInLove I have the fear that she is gone in such nasty event...

...But let's hope that this wasn't the case...


Hmm... Well, 10 billion yen dept was at that time very high - especially for a little company like Archol Soft. This was for the most smal companies at that time 100% equal a death penality - even nowadays.

So it starts out with Konoha being a private eye to spy on Mamoro's dad to find out what's up with this "cosplay club". He hands her a "cell" phone- okay HOLD UP: in 1999 he would not be letting her borrow one of his cell phones, he'd say "Here's The Cellular Phone. Don't lose it, they're expensive and it's the only one we have."
Then they're sending TEXT MESSAGES??? NO!! Not in 1999! There was no texting on those phones in that era, totally inaccurate. And they definitely DID NOT VIBRATE to tell you a message was coming! They had a screechy beeping ring for an incoming call and that was all. No text, no messaging, and crappy reception.
I care because this show is hyped up as being so nostalgia bait about the 90s- and has all those detailed game covers, they could just as easily have asked anyone older than 40 what the phones were like. They made that PC98 computer weirdly accurate, then presented a 90s cellular phone and didn't bother researching them??
And what's with Akihabara? Where are all the maid cafes? Nobody called them "cosplay" cafes, I'm fairly certain otaku culture was taking off and that area was already much more colorful and girls dressed as maids would be standing out in front of those cafes. Everything looks so dull. They fetishized that one computer, and that appear to be all the vintage knowledge the creators had. There should be Kogals walking around with BIG HAIR and big boots and short skirts or baggy socks- all of that started around that time. Konoha's disguise could have been a kogal outfit but no, she looks like a 2020s girl.

Then the club is just a seedy dance place with bored chicks sitting around trying to get the money daddies to buy them shit.
They hit the nail on the head with those girls.
(Then the girls will get older and whine that they've been cheated and run around by the men lol... nothing their fault. )

But then in the end find out he gave a billion yen to this Ichigaya guy. Wait-What? A BILLION? With a B??? In 1999????
NO WAY would a bunch of office workers still be in the office at night, shaming the owner. Most of them wouldn't give a shit, they'd be home, it's just a JOB. They wouldn't care about what the company made or did, as long as they got paid. Nobody would sit around moping about "when the company made fun games" they'd be like "well I guess we're all laid off now". And they would be. A billion yen in the 90s... the government would have already padlocked the place and seized all the computer equipment and hauled the owner off to jail- he's involved with a scandal with that Ichigaya guy? Yea he's in jail in 1999 Japan. Totally unrealistic.
And the whole episode was just so much dialogue. That entire conversation Konoha had with that tall chick outside the club was pointless and BORING as fuck. Most of the dialogue was painfully drawn out and boring.
This show has a ton of interesting potential but squandered it. The creators seem to only have a boner for that PC98 computer, apart from that their knowledge of the 90s is zero.

@SuperAdventure SMS has been in the GSM spec since 1986 and 1999 was 2 years before japan started switching over to 3g phones. of course they had SMS. your phone didn't, but it was ordinary stuff in japan by that point.

@garkon_icky

Just because technology exists does not mean it would be COMMON in that time. The cellular phone was invented in the 1940s and the first handheld phone was 1973, so by this logic you would say it would be accurate to show people carrying phones around in 1973.... but it was not.

Don't forget Japan was using feature phones, and flip phones much later than we were here and didn't adopt touch screens until later than we did- so they were not necessarily 'ahead' of us in phone tech, they have different requirements because of their language script.
There were beepers in the 1990s, and they did display SMS- but you could send like one sentence maximum, it was just a few words.
Here they are showing a whole conversation and with the phone vibrating incoming messages.... No. This is just inaccurate.

They're just being lazy because they didn't bother doing any research. People were not walking around in 1999 texting each other with their thumbs on phones, not in Japan, not here. My criticism is valid on it misrepresenting the typical 90s experiences.

The cell phone Mamoru was using is a model called "P501i" This model is compatible with i-mode, allowing the transmission of 250-character emails at a cost of 4 yen for sending and 2 yen for receiving. Since it was released in May 1999, it certainly existed during this era.

@NeatUnsou

You are not understanding, whether something existed or not is irrelevant. It was just a lazy thing for them to put in a texting scene because they're lazy. Nobody was walking around texting in 1999. Not in Japan and not here. So no, this is inaccurate.
Go and watch some 1990s anime. Nobody is walking around with that phone model and it buzzing when they get a message and texting back and forth, nope. You aren't disputing that part because you know I'm correct.

@SuperAdventure
The P501i is equipped with a vibrator, so, of course, it produces vibration sounds. Yes, at least in this Episode 6, the depiction of the cell phone was entirely accurate.