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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well it's good to see Carole and Tuesday making progress with their recording. Meanwhile, there's Angela's own career although I don't trust the guy (Aaron) that she's associating with. A somewhat slower paced episode but I like the pacing. Angela still has room to improve herself tbh. Also, I'm really fascinated by the level of technology used in this show. |
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| The producer says they are bad, but seems to agree with producing. Except practice from morning to night... one mic in the place he requested. Ex-child actress is busy with debuting, and meeting a new character. Those claiming that they are parents of Carole coming... for money. Laundry man saved her again. The reporter that appeared last ep. (aiming for politician mother) came to Tuesday. There's someone following ex-child actress? HiroC's character produced an AI based on ex-child actress from the data. Just a simulation? Yasumoto-san's character's band came to help out. Thanks to them, what he really said has been explained. "Just" 52 takes? Laundry guy is leaving and talking about how he was in the jail, and left his wife and child. Then he was searching for his daughter's whereabout after he was out of the jail ... hinting that he's her father? |
tsubasaloverJul 18, 2019 5:00 AM
I ♥ Two Syaorans from Tsubasa RESERVoir CHRoNiCLE and TRC!!! |
| So this episode, there's a lot to unpack: - Carole and Tuesday, being able to find the legendary producer Tobe with the help of Gus and Roddy, along with some old friends, lots of takes and NGs until he passes them. - Angela's side, there is a side account that is stalking her every move. Judging by the name, the most likely suspect would be Cybelle. Along with Tao's unwavered support for AI pulling music, it could very well jeopardize Angela's debut. - Politics aside, Tuesday's mum isn't doing well, on the sidelines, there seems to be some nefarious work. The one I was unexpectedly surprised with was Dann, the laundry man who protected Carole twice. It's sad that he has to go through a series of unfortunate events, finding his lost child to repay for his sins. This could be a very strong hint that Dann could be Carole's dad, but speculations for now. |
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| Dann is definitely Carole's dad, as was expected. The show is juggling way too many plot-points by now and I wonder if it can resolve all of them in the remaining 10 episodes. |
| Poor Roddy...he means well, but ends up suffering was nice to see Skip again seems like Angela is getting slowly replaced |
| Why Does İt seem like Angela has an obsession with Tao ? Tao is her producer and He is doing his job very well at writing the songs But Angela seems to be so angry about Tao is not coming to see her performances and There is the scene when Angela wanted tao to only to look at her for one day İs Angela in love with Tao or something ? |
| My eyes... they're sweating. |
| Lmao tobe was awesome, it was nice to Skip again, they rolled out a good shit. Damn that reveal of Carole's father was touching. Looks like the person who spoke to Tuesday at the stall might be her father idk |
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| I liked the new song from our army of 2. Also the new song of Angela’s sounds low key catchy. Also I think we all know Dann is Carole’s father, but hhhhhhhhh he has to go back to Earth. |
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| Things are shaping pretty tense for Carole & Tuesday's everyday life. As expected Dann turned out to be Carole's pops(damn those fake parents around her XD). While on the other hand Tuesday's tangled in her mother's persona. Seems these two dynamic duo gonna shape up the revolution as the diplomatic relations between Earth and Mars is getting riled up. |
When someone asks me why I like anime, I'd say Just Because. |
| But of COURSE Dann has been Carole's dad all along. Anyway, seeing her own AI version must have been quite a blow for Angela. Not to mention the girl has a crush on Tao for some reason. |
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| OH WOW THAT GUY WAS CAROLE'S DAD?!! its not like that wasnt clear from the moment he entered the freaking anime. The way they handled this, I think, is beyond cliche and cheesy. And I think its frustrating. The scene with two couples randomly declaring being her parents (yadayada) was the cherry on top on how ridiculous this part of her story was. Carole and Tuesday, and their story, is a little bit too much "what a happy world we're living in". Want to be a famous? Well guess we'll find a manager in one day, and audition for a popular show the other. Instead of letting them lose the competition and bring an interesting "come back"; let's just rig the thing and make them win "a little". Want a producer? Oh yeah I know someone who is REALLY good but a little bit weird, let's get him to join. Ofcourse he says 'yes' right away, and other famous people will join your group and create a fantastic song right away. The whole Tuesday-and-her-mother-being-a-politician problem is actually interesting. But they kidnap her one day, the brother lets her go and the mother? Well we dont know: she doesnt care that she's suddenly gone losing-but-kind-of-winning-the-show, I guess. Pff. ^This is me getting frustrated at a show I really honestly like for a lot of reasons, but I just hate how every cliche and non-realistic stuff has to jam in and ruin it (for me personally). My favorite character, and the one I am actually intersted in now, is Angela. Her problems are actually relatable, interesting and have realistic progression. This episode included. Obviously I am still watching the show and again: there are so many things that make this show enjoyable. It's just really dissapointing that they are creating an "everything is possible yay we are so happy show" instead of a more realistic take on the subjects. |
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| Many things happening. Carole was being harassed by opportunist strangers claiming to be her parents, but Dann came clean with the truth, and I don't have much to say about it, just that I understand. He didn't ask for forgiveness or to be part of her life either. He was just honest with her, and I think it ended well for them. They even made a promise after all, I liked this development, it didn't feel overbearing. Then Kyle approached Tuesday, and I liked what he told her. But I don't think he is just a kind guy trying to help Tuesday deal with her mother so I hope that he won't do anything that could really hurt her since he is most certainly going to use her to get to her mother. And not that I expected otherwise, but it's still disappointing to see that being elected is all that matters to her mother, and it feels like Spencer is going to be dragged into the mess too. Then there's Angela. That random-for-now Aaron was introduced, she is dealing with a possibly dangerous stalker, and she feels like she could be replaced by an AI, and it can't be a pleasant feeling. Welp, at least that producer seems to be the real deal despite being loud and crude. I wasn't expecting Skip to reappear here either, but I like that he was the one who helped Carole and Tuesday with his band. I just feel for poor Roddy having to deal with Gus and Tobe, I would want to go home as well. |
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| One of the best ways I've seen a "lost father" plot dealt with |
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| The last scene was so heavy man |
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| So there was a reason why Carole's parents abandoned(?) her. Her father seemed like a good guy. Also politics is starting to get involved. And that journalist guy. |
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| I am torn on the lost parent trope here. On the one hand it feels cheap and recycled. The people pretending to be Carole's parent just prior to Dann revealing who he is was too much. On the other hand it tore by so fast it was like it never happened. Maybe they are trying to pack as much into this series as possible due to it only being 24 episodes? My bet is they wanted to get past this trope as soon as possible to quite possibly use Dann later on in the series. Still it could have been implemented better. I'm left feeling uneasy on how well Valerie and the political plot line will be handled. It was a good episode regardless. |
| I actually really like what they did with Carole's parents. Their new song was also pretty banging. Tobe is really funny as well. I loved all the shit analogies. |
| There is a lot to unpack. First off, I'm not crying but that was excellent. Man this shit is so good. Where do we start? First off Carole and Tuesday once again showing how hardworking they are. Good character growth. Nice character development for Carole as learn her father and what really happen. Tuesday's mom is willing to play dirty and make promises she can't keep. Angela fears she may be replace and has an online stalker. She gets a new manger on top of it. God so much is going on. I fucking love everything. |
| I haven't updated in years but now I have changed that. I'll be free soon. |
ErinaNakiri1 said: Why Does İt seem like Angela has an obsession with Tao ? Tao is her producer and He is doing his job very well at writing the songs But Angela seems to be so angry about Tao is not coming to see her performances and There is the scene when Angela wanted tao to only to look at her for one day İs Angela in love with Tao or something ? I think she does. It does seem weird that she is that obsessed over her producer when she’s relatively non-chalant about everything else. |
| the father reveal although predictable was so well done, a beautiful moment such a good series |
| When Carole and her father were taking that stroll, I couldn't help gazing at the beautiful back animation ambience. Wow, that was pretty well done! Her meeting with the real could've been done better though, not that I'm complaining about that. The other guy claiming to be her father, really dude have you seen yourself! |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| This ep was some of the finest shit for sure |
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| i was about to make a Vocaloid joke when Tao was experimenting but the words couldnt come out lol man, at first they almost had me believe Dann was someone trying to take Carole away (especially with all the side politics going on), but then the birth mark piece came in. that little union between father and daughter actually almost hit me. good shit! |
| You have New york like city and female version of Trump like politician LOL |
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| Carole didn't gave in to her emotions and looks like she already knew that Dann is her biological father...the OST on the last part was emotional! It was cool that Skip also joined on accompanying Carole & Tuesday on their recording session! 5/5. |
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| I'm a little annoyed that Dann turned out to be Carole's dad, but overall, I think it was still handled pretty well. I actually thought that the birthmark thing was something that Carole just made-up to get the chasers away, so seeing that Dann actually had one I was like "wait, huh?" Also kind of interesting is the commentary on political campaigns. Tuesday's mom is clearly more interested in gaining personal power than actually running a working government, so she doesn't care about the consequences of the policies she's asked to support. So all the people on the last episode calling her Space Trump (including me) were more right than we knew. I'm still curious what direction the shows gonna go in with it's other plot threads, like the journalist, the AI Angela and Black_Knight. I mean, it's probably Cybelle, but that doesn't mean it won't be fun to see. |
| I'm the only one how know Dann was Carole dad from the beginning! At least I tough it the hole time! I liked this episode. It was pretty good and the song sound even better with the band on the background! |
| Just gonna say I LOVE ARMY OF TWO it's a legendary shit |
MurukoHiiragiJul 19, 2019 6:09 AM
"Everyone fails sometimes But dreams won't fade, dreams won't fade Let's chase them as many times as it takes and don't lose Because today after all is today and once you wake up, it'll be a new morning" ~Aqours~ |
| Something about that new manager of Angela aint right |
| i knew it! i knew that Dann was Carole's dad Also suspicious looking plants you got there Tobe 👀 |
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| Wow, how could they waste Carole's father like that? After his introduction in the last episode they could have built up an interesting character slowly and make the revelation something meaningful for the story instead they went for an immediate which though emotional lacked a deeper meaning to have a real impact on the viewer. The different stories were expanded by some new details and become more and more my main reason to watch this show. Angela's relation with Tao and her situation in the business seem to get worse and may result in a dramatic change of her standing in the near future. I anticipate something really good considering how well and relatable her story has progressed so far. Meanwhile, Carole and Tuesday are ... there, I guess. |
| Well, Dann turns out to be Carole's dad huh. Their conversation was quite casual but full of emotions they didn't verbalize... for now. Dann has a lot on his plate at the moment and Carole has to focus on her music. Tuesday is in a difficult position as well, with her mother's campaign and all. And then there is Angela. Her career is seriously in danger with Tao's love for AI music. Not to mention this stalker... Tobe is weird but turns out to be quite okay. It was great to see Skip again and I love Army of Two :) |
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| Some people are still confused about whether or not Dann is Carole's father. He is. His story lines up exactly with what Carole tells us about her past. Plus, when he's sitting on a bench, we see that he has a birthmark on his wrist, something Carole says her father had. Were people just not paying attention to the last couple of episodes...? This is about as blatant as you can get with revealing that someone is someone else's parent without directly stating it... Tobe is probably one of the greatest characters in the history of anime. "It's shit, the finest shit there is,'' is now officially my new life quote. |
TheUnknownKnown said: Calling it now: The "Black Knight" is an anonymous account owned by Cybelle who has broke from the jail and want to use Angela (and possibly her AI counterpart) to revenge. The AI Angela started a smear campaign portraying Tao and herself as an innocent victim of music industry, blamed Carole, Tuesday and "any singers who has associated with her" for ruining music, and then put out a musical single that brainwashed the listeners to support herself and reject human singers. Yeah, I thought that was Cybelle too. |
basilhater said: Wow, how could they waste Carole's father like that? After his introduction in the last episode they could have built up an interesting character slowly and make the revelation something meaningful for the story instead they went for an immediate which though emotional lacked a deeper meaning to have a real impact on the viewer. Everyone and their mother already figured it out. Why bother wasting time and dancing around it? |
| Angela's IT fan, Aaron-something is kind of creepy. Isn't Angela only about 16 years old? That man seems much older and gave off lots of creepy vibes. People are saying that Black Knight is Cybelle but what if it's her own manager? I forgot her name but the girl who claims she is Angela's biggest fan? Cybelle seems like she would be too convenient as a villain. It's like recycling or reusing her as the villain again for the second half. She's already established as crazy, unstable and spiteful but we don't know the true personalities of the people around Angela either. Dahlia seems a little too relaxed about the situation too. Also that ending made me tear up. I don't have a father anymore and any emotional moments in movies, series, whether they be Anime or not regarding fathers really gets to me. |
| 臭い- |
| Finally a good episode again with a few revealings, I liked it. However, the music is average or fine at most. What bothers me in C&T is that it lacks of originality in the writing and music, not good for a show that call itself Original. I hope to see some genuine character drama in the next episodes, more substance and not just creative looks/worldbuilding. This episode is an improvement. ep. side note: so rare to see the good ol' weed in anime, nice detail, the producer is one of a kind lol also liked the comeback of the band from the talent show, would be interesting to see more characters again. |
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