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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Well that was kinda interesting. The world setting and mysterious vibe of the Sarcophagus City along with the futuristic themes of the planetarium made this rather intriguing. Animation is okay. Hoshino is adorable though as a robot and she offers guidance for Junker. The ED theme is okay, not too impressive not bad either. |
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| as a robot, she quitely annoying. and I wonder why the staffs weren't format or put her in hibernation and make her wander like that on empty planetarium. salvager as a mc is new. |
megmicaJul 6, 2016 1:55 PM
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| Ahhh! Seeing Yumemi and the Junker animated was great To be honest, I didn't have any issues with this episode. I think they managed to portray the feel of the beginning parts of the VN, which was always a unique thing. Can't wait to see how they handle the rest! |
| VN adaptations trigger me |
| wait wait its out already? Edit: Just watched. That was freaking amazing. Almost 1:1 with the novel and the last moment gave me the chills. Yeah, i hope you people are ready to cry like babies |
Murasa22Jul 6, 2016 3:19 PM
| i remember playing this game like 7 years ago...on my PSP |
| Do they really need an entire episode to present the android as clueless and incompetent (oh wait, they thought this was cute) while showing the guy repeatedly got annoyed and seemed kinda short-tempered yet never reacted to the android in any way believable but also played along with her little game for the sake of the plot? It's obviously trying to say something critical, and to be emotional, but not in this clumsy and underwhelming way of storytelling. When the whole humanity has gone to shit why would I care about a random robot that has zero personalities wandering in an abandoned facility which still has power and not scavenge them for anything useful? I guess waifus are harder to come by post-apocalypse. |
alyya said: and I wonder why the staffs weren't format or put her in hibernation and make her wander like that on empty planetarium. This is explained later. It makes logical sense too. |
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--RazoR-- said: raveninthemuddle said: Do they really need an entire episode to present the android as clueless and incompetent (oh wait, they thought this was cute) while showing the guy repeatedly got annoyed and seemed kinda short-tempered yet never reacted to the android in any way believable but also played along with her little game for the sake of the plot? It's obviously trying to say something critical, and to be emotional, but not in this clumsy and underwhelming way of storytelling. When the whole humanity has gone to shit why would I care about a random robot that has zero personalities wandering in an abandoned facility which still has power and not scavenge them for anything useful? I guess waifus are harder to come by post-apocalypse. It seems you haven't played the VN. The whole point of the story is that our protag Junker encounters with Yumemi. Yeah, she's kinda annoying due to being broken. The most reasonable answer to your statement about why Junker didn't dispose of Yumemi and scavenge her for something useful, is because Yumemi promised him to show the "starry sky", something that the Junker didn't witness because of the Rain caused by humanity's neverending war. Everything in the anime goes according to the VN, and as far as I can tell, they did a good job. This anime is not your typical post-apocalyptic survival. If the name Key sounds familiar to you, you should know what you should expect. You shouldn't really expecting everyone read this VN, right? I'm little curious with this 'Rain' phrase. what is this meaning? literal rain, acid rain, asteroid rain striking earth or something like that? |
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--RazoR-- said: It seems you haven't played the VN. I've played enough VNs to know they're more or less the same, just like anime. Especially those made by Key. --RazoR-- said: The most reasonable answer to your statement about why Junker didn't dispose of Yumemi and scavenge her for something useful, is because Yumemi promised him to show the "starry sky", something that the Junker didn't witness because of the Rain caused by humanity's neverending war. You know this is actually an okay plot point and motivation for Junker, and I'm sure there're paragraphs upon paragraphs of monologue or inner-thoughts from the MC to let us know what's going through his mind and telling us his view on the whole situation. But as far as the anime goes, they didn't make the connection or the reasoning of Junker's decision to help Yumemi out strong or clear. In other words, it isn't compelling. --RazoR-- said: This anime is not your typical post-apocalyptic survival. Still one should expect the characters think and act like they're in a world that has gone to hell and looking for anything they can use to survive. That's the point of having a post-apocalyptic setting. Even Junker is a scavenger right from the start. It's laughable when Junker said he's looking for high-tech machinery yet he seemingly doesn't pay attention to the value that Yumemi (being a highly-sophisticated robot even for its time) and the whole complex can bring to the table. They could've used that to create some interesting scene where Yumemi has to make a stand of convincing Junker to leave her alone and Junker using charm or wit to trick Yumemi into submission (if that's part of his personality). That's way more interesting than him constantly being annoyed, Yumemi being clueless the whole time, and we have to look at his frowny face for the entire episode because there's a conflict of interest (i.e. drama). --RazoR-- said: If the name Key sounds familiar to you, you should know what you should expect. You're right about expecting this kind of lackluster storytelling from Key, I sure had no expectations for this or any anime particularly, but I still have things to say regardless of expectations. |
| Perfect, perfect ! :) The start was really good, gave me the same feeling of the VN. That part when Jena doesn't work made me laugh poor Yumeni XD The ed is ok, it reflects well the personality of Yumeni ! |
| What do you think about the planetarium? That beautiful twinkling of eternity that will never fade, no matter when.... |
| crying every time I meet the message: this video is not available in your country :'( huh how long must I wait again? :( ps.: btw, guys, do see somebody's profile page first before replying his/her comment. Of course an elitist like raven won't enjoy KEY, no use of trying to make him change his mind. |
Revvie-chan said: ps.: btw, guys, do see somebody's profile page first before replying his/her comment. Of course an elitist like raven won't enjoy KEY, no use of trying to make him change his mind. Throw out the E-word whenever someone has a different opinion. Keep being close-minded, that sure will help with your life in the long run. |
alyya said: The thing with the world is that it's raining almost all the time and that rain is deadly and destroys things (acid rain, basically, I forget what caused it exactly, think it was all the wars or something), but the anime seems to have ignored that for most part, MC walks in the rain without a problem.--RazoR-- said: It seems you haven't played the VN. The whole point of the story is that our protag Junker encounters with Yumemi. Yeah, she's kinda annoying due to being broken. The most reasonable answer to your statement about why Junker didn't dispose of Yumemi and scavenge her for something useful, is because Yumemi promised him to show the "starry sky", something that the Junker didn't witness because of the Rain caused by humanity's neverending war. Everything in the anime goes according to the VN, and as far as I can tell, they did a good job. This anime is not your typical post-apocalyptic survival. If the name Key sounds familiar to you, you should know what you should expect. You shouldn't really expecting everyone read this VN, right? I'm little curious with this 'Rain' phrase. what is this meaning? literal rain, acid rain, asteroid rain striking earth or something like that? Another thing the anime changed is how Yumemi didn't stand in the rain when she was talking to herself calling customers which added to her character in the VN because she was just idling in the deadly rain without a care (though I don't think it affected her much), but the anime kinda fixed that when MC walked away and left her alone and she kept talking, which added to her "brokeness" like that part was meant to. Just a random note. |
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raveninthemuddle said: Revvie-chan said: ps.: btw, guys, do see somebody's profile page first before replying his/her comment. Of course an elitist like raven won't enjoy KEY, no use of trying to make him change his mind. Throw out the E-word whenever someone has a different opinion. Keep being close-minded, that sure will help with your life in the long run. lol E-word =D well, you think you are not? With that score list of yours? :P |
| Is the episode meant to only be 19 minutes long? EDIT: This is very obviously going to become very depressing by the time all is said and done, but until then I can definitely say that I enjoyed this episode quite a lot. Definitely one of the best first episodes I've seen this season, at the very least. |
AtavisticJul 7, 2016 12:12 PM
danieltortoisee said: Is the episode meant to only be 19 minutes long? Yes. There should be 5 episodes total released on various streaming sites in promotion for the movie in September. |
| Very nice start! Cant wait to see more |
| Now. Did you see? Did you see the huge gap between this and Rewrite? This is called a good adaptation, with good art and direction. My God, I'm so glad that Planetarian got a decent adaptation at least. Revvie-chan said: ps.: btw, guys, do see somebody's profile page first before replying his/her comment. Of course an elitist like raven won't enjoy KEY, no use of trying to make him change his mind. Haha. I wanted to write the same thing :D Ridiculous drop rate, super elitist shows in top. Well. It's really better to stop replying to users like him. I know what I'm talking about, when I was in high school, I watched only super elitist things too, listening only to super elitist music etc. And then I grew up from this, because why not enjoy everything which is giving you, well, I don't like this word, but... fun. |
rsc-plJul 7, 2016 1:33 PM
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| This is going to end in a very, very sad way... right? |
At least Yumemi is still cute after all these years XD |
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TheLittleRedHero said: rsc-pl said: Now. Did you see? Did you see the huge gap between this and Rewrite? This is called a good adaptation, with good art and direction. My God, I'm so glad that Planetarian got a decent adaptation at least. Haha. I wanted to write the same thing :D Ridiculous drop rate, super elitist shows in top. Well. It's really better to stop replying to users like him. I know what I'm talking about, when I was in high school, I watched only super elitist things too, listening only to super elitist music etc. And then I grew up from this, because why not enjoy everything. For the first comment Uh, how much did Planetarian adapted for the first episode? and I can agree the Visual directing was pretty good... as expected from JoJo's director (yes, JoJo director) For the second Uh, about the elitist thing... I used to be a try-hard elitist ass and back in highschool I did the same thing too, and after a year I grew out of it, and I tend to enjoy series a bit more than what I should. Slow pacing beats fast pacing (*cough* Tensho *cough*). At least people will get to know the characters more rather than forget about them because the pacing was too fast (like in Rewrite). It's the usual Key formula of slow beginnings and then to the good stuff. Nothing wrong with that. I bet that if you didn't read the Rewrite VN, you would see why Rewrite's 1st episode is bad. Being acquainted with the VN makes you bias to defend an anime no matter how bad it is. I been there. I did that with FSN UBW. I grew up from that. This first episode got to...around 20% of the VN. Anyway, the first episode was great. Since I read the VN, the staff are doing it perfectly. Might be the best Key adaptation since CLANNAD. BTW Yumemi's VA is the same VA who voices Shizuru from Rewrite. In fact, do read the Planetarian VN. It's only...3 hours average compared to 60 hours of Rewrite. rsc-pl said: Now. Did you see? Did you see the huge gap between this and Rewrite? This is called a good adaptation, with good art and direction. My God, I'm so glad that Planetarian got a decent adaptation at least. Revvie-chan said: ps.: btw, guys, do see somebody's profile page first before replying his/her comment. Of course an elitist like raven won't enjoy KEY, no use of trying to make him change his mind. Haha. I wanted to write the same thing :D Ridiculous drop rate, super elitist shows in top. Well. It's really better to stop replying to users like him. I know what I'm talking about, when I was in high school, I watched only super elitist things too, listening only to super elitist music etc. And then I grew up from this, because why not enjoy everything which is giving you, well, I don't like this word, but... fun. I'm just fucking depressed why can't KEY just wait for Rewrite. Maybe if Planetarian was a success, david production will do Rewrite too. But goddamn 8bit has to get it. |
exleader75Jul 7, 2016 1:52 PM
| Well if they're doing a 1:1 adaptation of the VN then I guess I'll skip out on reading it. VNs like this tend to pick up closer to the end when pieces fall together. We'll see. |
| I've been excited for this for a while. The setting is pretty cool and I like the two MCs so far. |
Mirorin said: Well if they're doing a 1:1 adaptation of the VN then I guess I'll skip out on reading it. VNs like this tend to pick up closer to the end when pieces fall together. We'll see. you should still read it. It's just 5 hours long, and there are experiences you can only get by reading. (same way the vice versa is also true. That's why we, VN reader, watch this. :D) exleader75 said: I'm just fucking depressed why can't KEY just wait for Rewrite. Maybe if Planetarian was a success, david production will do Rewrite too. But goddamn 8bit has to get it. I can write an essay for this, but I guess no one would read it, so here's the short thing: |
Revvie-chanJul 7, 2016 2:53 PM
| I'm not prepared for the tears all over again, though I'm happy that at least one Key VN is getting a competent adaptation this season. |
| How does the planetarium have electricity??? Isn't this a post apocalyptic world? It's hard to believe that even if they had a backup generator,that it would last for 21 years.... |
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| Nice first episode, can see where this is going. I like the animation and art style. |
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| Well that was about what I expected it to look like Not a huge fan of Planetarian compared to other Key works tbh but I do feel like this could be better in anime form than VN form and also given the length we can also be guaranteed that it'll get a good adaptation (unlike Rewrite lol) |
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| The MC definitely will grow attached to that robot, the last scene was so good. Nice setup for this and i can see this having feels all over. |
| That was a great watch. I especially loved that final scene. My feels are ready for this show. |
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By your definition I guess I should call you a pleb by glancing on your list. Simple people, simple-minded. Delegitimatizing others by generalizing or stereotyping. --RazoR-- said: Playing enough VNs is not equal to playing the exact VN that anime is based on. I don't need to spend a night on Gobi Desert to know it's hot at days and cold at nights when I've already been to Sahara, do I? --RazoR-- said: if Junker would just destroy Yumemi, there would be no point to continue the story. It's about how the writer didn't use the identity of Junker as a scavenger to drive up some interesting interaction with Yumemi, who said anything about destroying the robot? --RazoR-- said: After a 30 years long war, humankind is almost extinct. Even the biggest countries are destroyed. In a world like that, you may not even sell and make a profit of what you scavenged. There are less humans than you think in Planetarian's world. Junker has his own worries, and is also bored of this world. You get to know this in the VN via his inner thoughts. He wanted to experience something different, and see how things will go. Maybe in the VN it's a total different experience and actually went very smooth, but the anime adaptation needs to stand on its own and you can't just tell people to read/watch/play the source material just to get the bigger picture out of obligation, it needs to be encouraging as in you're the storyteller, that's your job. --RazoR-- said: I've checked his profile and seen that he watched Clannad, Little Busters, Air and Kanon as well, so I think he's familiar with the Key stories. He's watched more anime than I did, and I think he's more experienced than me. Everyone's not have to like everything, so I respect that. He just doesn't like Key stories. Kudos to you for actually looking at things beyond other's scores, You have my respect. --RazoR-- said: Note to you, @raveninthemiddle , Little Busters!' and Clannad's stories make more sense when you play their VNs (especially Little Busters!'). I recommend you playing their VNs (and sorry to repeat this sentence a thousand of times.) I would want to play them (maybe not all of them) if it was 10 years ago when I was still enthusiastic about playing those expensive and time consuming and soon-to-be disappointing VNs. Nowadays with so many things going on it's inevitable that there's gonna be better options. Anime adaptations exist for that reason. |
| I can't stand these people bashing Rewrite..MAL is indeed a cancerous community. Anyway, this episode went too fast...i wish it was a 24min lenght episode :( |
Murasa22 said: I can't stand these people bashing Rewrite..MAL is indeed a cancerous community. Anyway, this episode went too fast...i wish it was a 24min lenght episode :( Considering it was only 18 minutes, it could hint that the staff knows what they are doing. I am excited for this, it will be a nice and short story. |
| I'm actually surprised that i really enjoyed it. Really looking forward for the rest. |
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| I liked this. I didn't even know about the VN until I read the main MAL entry on this series. The setting is compelling. I'm a sucker for ruined post-Apocalyptic landscapes. Maybe the constant rain is the result of the earth being warmed by constant warfare? Some type of advanced weaponry? Nuclear strikes would cause "nuclear winter" so perhaps something else. |
raveninthemuddle said: Do they really need an entire episode to present the android as clueless and incompetent (oh wait, they thought this was cute) while showing the guy repeatedly got annoyed and seemed kinda short-tempered yet never reacted to the android in any way believable but also played along with her little game for the sake of the plot? There's more happening than simple characterization. The core of the story is about the relationship between Yumemi and the Junker, with the core thematic element being the relationship between robots and humans (keep in mind the compared treatment between him and the guardian robots at the beginning). On top of that, there is actual narrative thrust here (Jena is broken and -for some reason- the Junker plays along). Regarding the supposed lack of motivation of the Junker, I'll say there is a reason (sadly they couldn't mention in in the 18 minute period and instead opted to finish with the heartwarming image of him changing his mind) but the anime doesn't need to lay all of its cards on the table at once. This will be made explicit in time. It's obviously trying to say something critical, and to be emotional, but not in this clumsy and underwhelming way of storytelling. What I think you're describing isn't poor storytelling but a laid-back and empathetic tone. The post-apocalyptic setting isn't the plot, it's the staging. When the whole humanity has gone to shit why would I care about a random robot that has zero personalities wandering in an abandoned facility which still has power and not scavenge them for anything useful? Because that's what the anime is framing as the important conflict. The anime isn't trying to focus on the logistics of this world. It's about the relationship that emerges between a human and a robot. |
| For my thoughts -- I didn't really like the ED. The song was OK, but the chibi Yumemi kinda "dehumanizes" her which I think will hurt in the long run. I also didn't really know what the purpose of the old dude telling the Junker to "stay away from Yumemi." I don't remember that from the VN (it's been a few years) but that sequence felt a little out of place, even if it was just a dream sequence. Otherwise, I have no complaints. This episode was everything I hoped for. Can't wait to meet Gentle Jena! |
| I sort of have a semi-bias against robot when it comes to emotional connection. If Yumemi could prove herself as a sentient one that might helps a lot. |
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