| When I realized that someday I'm going to die, so it's time to stop giving a fuck what others think and do what makes me happy. And that religion is bullshit and shouldn't even exist because it makes people hateful. |
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BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. |
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Tavor said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. okay then, think about every current war going on right now. (just look at the middle east) think about the causes for both world wars. tell me they didn't boil down to religion. and all the scientific advancement currently and in the past condemned by the church. and yes, if man hadn't been set back during the dark ages, just look at the exponential scientific advancement of today and give that another few hundred years head start. all of you can criticized my post but if you're not gonna back anything of what you say with proof, don't post |
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eldest said: Tavor said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. okay then, think about every current war going on right now. (just look at the middle east) think about the causes for both world wars. tell me they didn't boil down to religion. and all the scientific advancement currently and in the past condemned by the church. and yes, if man hadn't been set back during the dark ages, just look at the exponential scientific advancement of today and give that another few hundred years head start. all of you can criticized my post but if you're not gonna back anything of what you say with proof, don't post Religion can be a contributing factor, and a tool for people to deceive others, but it's definitely not a prerequisite for war. War is about power. And doesn't the former Soviet regime sort of prove you wrong, about everything? The dark ages for Europe was the Middle East's golden age, and there were culture flourishing elsewhere. But seriously, religion is the cause of all the world's problems? That's simply not true. I'll post this again |
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eldest said: Tavor said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. okay then, think about every current war going on right now. (just look at the middle east) think about the causes for both world wars. tell me they didn't boil down to religion. and all the scientific advancement currently and in the past condemned by the church. and yes, if man hadn't been set back during the dark ages, just look at the exponential scientific advancement of today and give that another few hundred years head start. all of you can criticized my post but if you're not gonna back anything of what you say with proof, don't post Correlation does not imply causation. There has been evidence of conflict even before the establishment of any sort of religion. And for you information, there are other wars: Korean wars, Vietnam wars that didn't boil down to religion. Shitty economy? Blame greed and capitalism. I agree with your scientific advancements point though but that depends on whether or not industrialization would happen earlier. |
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BloodRequiem said: eldest said: Tavor said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. okay then, think about every current war going on right now. (just look at the middle east) think about the causes for both world wars. tell me they didn't boil down to religion. and all the scientific advancement currently and in the past condemned by the church. and yes, if man hadn't been set back during the dark ages, just look at the exponential scientific advancement of today and give that another few hundred years head start. all of you can criticized my post but if you're not gonna back anything of what you say with proof, don't post Correlation does not imply causation. There has been evidence of conflict even before the establishment of any sort of religion. And for you information, there are other wars: Korean wars, Vietnam wars that didn't boil down to religion. Shitty economy? Blame greed and capitalism. I agree with your scientific advancements point though but that depends on whether or not industrialization would happen earlier. okay then, fair enough on your points there, but if you take it back to the part about scientific advancements, had man kept going at that rate, those particular wars wouldn't have ever happened. the world would be a far better place. |
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eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race I'm not sure what you're getting at. Certainly religion has had a part in most of the wars that have occured throughout history. Saying that there wouldn't be mindless killing without religion, is mindless in itself. People would still kill eachother over drugs, or because they thought that someone had stolen a few dollars. Whether or not we would be space faring is debatable. Wars would still occur, their motives would just be different. As far as economics goes, you are completely wrong I'm afraid. Econonies revolve around more than religion. Saying "religion = bad economies" is a flawed statement that trivializes the complexities that actually make up an economy. In fact, to use your logic against you, (Particularly, your assertion that religion is responsible for both wars and bad economies) the second world war, and its military industrial complex are a big part of what got America out of The Great Depression. |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
It wouldn't have gone at that rate without calculus. And now we come to a question no one can answer: Would people come up with Calculus before Leibniz/Newton? Goryo said: In fact, to use your logic against you, (Particularly, your assertion that religion is responsible for both wars and bad economies) the second world war, and its military industrial complex are a big part of what got America out of The Great Depression. Uhh...the Great Depression was before WW2 and I'm pretty sure that getting out of the depression had more to do with the reparation paid by the losers. |
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| As a child, I was told that society is a melting pot of talents; knowledge and experience combined to form important alloys that will contribute to mankind. When I got to highschool, however, I thought that it's more like a river in which the water represents our peers while we ourselves are the stones in the river. Constant erosion by mindless majority sheeping has made us lose our unique edge. After I hit the age of 18, I realized that I've been wrong all along. Society is no melting pot. Society is no river. Society is a person, a very skilled rapist, and he has fucked us all. |
Goryo said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race I'm not sure what you're getting at. Certainly religion has had a part in most of the wars that have occured throughout history. Saying that there wouldn't be mindless killing without religion, is mindless in itself. People would still kill eachother over drugs, or because they thought that someone had stolen a few dollars. Whether or not we would be space faring is debatable. Wars would still occur, their motives would just be different. As far as economics goes, you are completely wrong I'm afraid. Econonies revolve around more than religion. Saying "religion = bad economies" is a flawed statement that trivializes the complexities that actually make up an economy. In fact, to use your logic against you, (Particularly, your assertion that religion is responsible for both wars and bad economies) the second world war, and its military industrial complex are a big part of what got America out of The Great Depression. and as i retorted before, had religion not existed back before the dark ages, all of this would be a non factor, as none of it would have happened and man would have been a far advanced race. |
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BloodRequiem said: eldest said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: Tavor said: BloodRequiem said: eldest said: if it were abolished and had never even existed, the would be no wars, no mindless killing, economic problems, corruption, and man would be a space faring (borderline colonizing) race see I'm not religious but the highlighted part of your statement is retarded. This. Seriously, zero corruption? AMONG HUMANS? That's very absurd. okay then, think about every current war going on right now. (just look at the middle east) think about the causes for both world wars. tell me they didn't boil down to religion. and all the scientific advancement currently and in the past condemned by the church. and yes, if man hadn't been set back during the dark ages, just look at the exponential scientific advancement of today and give that another few hundred years head start. all of you can criticized my post but if you're not gonna back anything of what you say with proof, don't post Correlation does not imply causation. There has been evidence of conflict even before the establishment of any sort of religion. And for you information, there are other wars: Korean wars, Vietnam wars that didn't boil down to religion. Shitty economy? Blame greed and capitalism. I agree with your scientific advancements point though but that depends on whether or not industrialization would happen earlier. okay then, fair enough on your points there, but if you take it back to the part about scientific advancements, had man kept going at that rate, those particular wars wouldn't have ever happened. the world would be a far better place. It wouldn't have gone at that rate without calculus. And now we come to a question no one can answer: would people come up with Calculus before Leibniz/Newton. i read a good quote somewhere before, it said, if the world was destroyed and was eventually rebuilt, with no prior knowledge of the past, old religions would never be recreated the same. math and science on the other hand would, they are alway true regardless of time frame or interpretation. you could destroy the world and recreate it with a whole new race of people, and math would still be the same, 1+1 would still equal 2, and calculus would still be discovered eventually. the religion would be another completely different thing though since its based on unprovable bullshit. |
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eldest said: and as i retorted before, had religion not existed back before the dark ages, all of this would be a non factor Wrong. just because you say it wouldn't have been a factor doesn't mean it would not have been. Arguing about what could've happened if only we had done things a certain way is pointless, primarily because it's impossible to say for certain what actually would've happened. For all you know, we would've had just as many wars in your alternate reality as we've had in this one. There's no way to tell. You said that religion = bad economies. In this reality, that statement is false. Besides all of that, there's still the fact that if we had no wars, out technological innovation wouldn't have been as steep as it is shown to be on that timeline/graph of yours. Many technological advancements have come about because of conflicts. |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Goryo said: eldest said: and as i retorted before, had religion not existed back before the dark ages, all of this would be a non factor Wrong. just because you say it wouldn't have been a factor doesn't mean it would not have been. Arguing about what could've happened if only we had done things a certain way is pointless, primarily because it's impossible to say for certain what actually would've happened. For all you know, we would've had just as many wars in your alternate reality as we've had in this one. There's no way to tell. You said that religion = bad economies. In this reality, that statement is false. Besides all of that, there's still the fact that if we had no wars, out technological innovation wouldn't have been as steep as it is shown to be on that timeline/graph of yours. Many technological advancements have come about because of conflicts. irrelevant, there would be instead of a few decades of rapid technological advancement, several hundred years. it would reach a certain point then become exponential. |
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eldest said: irrelevant, there would be instead of a few decades of rapid technological advancement, several hundred years. it would reach a certain point then become exponential. You make it sound as if religion never occurred, that Earth would be a paradise full of sunshine and rainbows, and I'm telling you that religion isn't the only factor that contributes to the negative aspects of our society or technological advancement. Saying that religion is the root cause of all of the things you listed is ridiculous, and although the probabilities of us being more technologically advanced would likely increase, there's too many variables to be saying it as confidently as you are. Technology isn't the end all be all of things that we as humans strive for, Religion is an experience that was necessary. An experience that we as a species can learn from and carry on into the future. We were bound to ask ourselves these questions that center on our existence and reality at some point in our story, and create religion in an attempt to answer them. I'm glad that we went through this experience early in our history, rather than at some point in our future. We are where we are, religion is here, and our technology is where it's at because of a number of different variables. I think instead of pointing fingers and blaming people, we just need to move on. I think that blaming someones beliefs for our current circumstances would just lead to even more conflict, wouldn't it? |
كنت تهدر وقتك عن طريق ترجمة هذه. mattbenz99 said: Christians and Satanists are technically the same thing |
Goryo said: eldest said: irrelevant, there would be instead of a few decades of rapid technological advancement, several hundred years. it would reach a certain point then become exponential. You make it sound as if religion never occurred, that Earth would be a paradise full of sunshine and rainbows, and I'm telling you that religion isn't the only factor that contributes to the negative aspects of our society or technological advancement. Saying that religion is the root cause of all of the things you listed is ridiculous, and although the probabilities of us being more technologically advanced would likely increase, there's too many variables to be saying it as confidently as you are. Technology isn't the end all be all of things that we as humans strive for, Religion is an experience that was necessary. An experience that we as a species can learn from and carry on into the future. We were bound to ask ourselves these questions that center on our existence and reality at some point in our story, and create religion in an attempt to answer them. I'm glad that we went through this experience early in our history, rather than at some point in our future. We are where we are, religion is here, and our technology is where it's at because of a number of different variables. I think instead of pointing fingers and blaming people, we just need to move on. I think that blaming someones beliefs for our current circumstances would just lead to even more conflict, wouldn't it? i think it boils down to 2 people having a different opinion. ill leave it at that. |
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JustALEX said: I believe everyone in their life will eventually come to a sudden realization, some are small and insignificant, others change everything about you. For me it happened when I challenged my faith and I realized how deeply flawed it was. What about you? Not wanting to be anti religious, but, the greatest moment in my life came when I had to accept that yet again religion had lied to me. I had been Mormon for a couple of years, but it fell apart when a friend showed me they were no different than the rest. I made peace with my 30 years of science and got over it. There is no god, and I am not obliged to prove this kooky notional person is not here. It's for the idiots that insist he IS here to prove it or shut the fuck up. I also don't have an invisible, weightless, heatless, noiseless dragon in my garage. |
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