| It got boring and serious after Kamina died. |
| This is a serious post. You're not allowed to delete it. |
| i havent seen much of it yet, but i can say i do like the characters. but i hate the mechas and the way they look and are controlled is stupid imo. |
| bad getting angry and killing the enemy in 5 seconds ... |
| As far as I'm concerned, the only flaw the entire anime had was episode 4 (or was it 3?) where they had the changed art style and it was really lame. Also, don't start even more of these damn threads. The so-call "bad" points are all going to be opinion based so this is just another flaming thread. |
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SantaBla said: No shit sherlock. That was a given.5layer said: Also, don't start even more of these damn threads. The so-call "bad" points are all going to be opinion based so Lol, and what? The so-called "good" points are all going to be opinion based as well. SantaBla said: Yeah says he.5layer said: this is just another flaming thread. Says the guy who posts retarded homophobic memes around. Also, nice job, the flaming has already begun it seems. |
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| The Good: Everything about the show The Bad: Everything about the majority of the fanbase. You know I'm right. |
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5layer said: As far as I'm concerned, the only flaw the entire anime had was episode 4 (or was it 3?) where they had the changed art style and it was really lame. yep the only flaw i see on gurren lagann is episode 4 but thats just minor compare to the overall experience of the anime its so EPIC!!! |
| stop favoritring things and not giving it a 10 wtf |
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| It was more or less made entirely of clichés, and as a result, suffered from rather shallow characters and didn't have any originality in it. But on the other hand, it was pretty obvious that the clichés were the whole point in the series, they didn't try to hide them or deny their existence, and as such, at least managed to refrain from being pretentious and bloated like a certain one of my pet peeve series. There is really no reason why a cliché cannot be good, and as such, TTGL actually accomplished splendidly what it tried to do. Though unfortunately, I just didn't like it, not because it failed in any way, but simply because I don't really like such flashy and shallow series in the first place, and then there's the thing with the Super mecha of course. So the only bad thing I'd say is that it didn't tickle my fancy. |
| Good: -Epicness. As many things seem subjective, the very definition of epic falls extremely close to this series. -Success as what it tried to do. Aimed to be epic (from the first episode), and continued to do so, despite some "emo" moments, but ended with a bang. Aimed to be ridiculous, and continued to do so. Aimed to have one of the hottest female characters, and I'd say it did a pretty good job at it. It wasn't only the cleavage that shined. -Some parody moments, like pulling off a combination, and some crazy move that came out of nowhere (I believe it was some sort of parody to all the shounens where most of them had to learn a move over several agonizing episodes, when this one came out of nowhere.) Bad: -Does not appeal to anyone who doesn't like this sort of genre. (even though it had a lot of other subgenres in it.) -Some characters are lame (but like all stories, some characters must be lame in order for some other characters to shine above them) -Became somewhat tediously slow during the middle of the series when someone died and when peace came back. -Hype never helps a show. Since TTGL stayed #1 for quite a while, it's unfortunate that some people would hate a show just because of its fanbase, or with the wrong expectations. |
| I didn't quite like the space setting. The aliens (anti-spirals) and all...the story got really out of hand when those appear imo. |
| The Good: - Taking cliches, blowing them out of proportion for the audience, and overall giving a spectacular presentation for those who can enjoy it for what it is. - Great soundtrack, captured the atmosphere very well. While "Libera me from Hell" inspired a non-stop shitstorm of "ROW ROW FIGHT DA POWAH" across the entire internet, it did portray the seriousness of the atmosphere of certain situations exceptionally (See: Kittan's Last Stand. That scene gave me chills). - The Animation, save Episode 4, was consistent and good. Some may not have liked the shaded style that TTGL presented, but I would overall put it as a point in Gurren Lagann's favor. The Bad: - Weak Character Development and Overall Plot - I felt the need to know more about some of the individual characters, and the plot was kind of just scattered all over the place, leaning from the defeat of Lord Genome to suddenly blasting off into space to defeat a God-like figure that lowers itself in order to create despair (i.e. setting yourself up for a loss). - GAINAX Ending (I actually liked it, but I'll accept that the ending wasn't necessarily the best one, and understandably left a bad taste in viewer's mouths). - Although the pacing was decent, there were moments where the show would simply slow down and become incredibly boring. Frankly, the plot pretty much started when Kamina died (Honestly, at this point, it's not really a spoiler), which pretty much took eight episodes altogether, and even after this, we had to wait for a few episodes until Simon stopped being emo over the plastic cut-out of a character that was his bro. I would mention the kids who feel the need to scream a catchphrase every other minute, but there will always be bad aspects of individual fanbases, so it's pretty much moot. Btw, I absolutely love threads like these. Given, random trolls tend to show up, but I like a lot of the opinions that come from threads like these. In fact, the worst thing about these threads are the fans who rush to the defense of their favorite series' and, rather than defending it, demand a lock, ending a relatively interesting discussion. |
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| The only thing that was bad for me was emo simon. So. Annoying. The cliches I loved. It said them loud and it said them Proud. |
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Baman said: It was more or less made entirely of clichés, and as a result, suffered from rather shallow characters and didn't have any originality in it. But on the other hand, it was pretty obvious that the clichés were the whole point in the series, they didn't try to hide them or deny their existence, and as such, at least managed to refrain from being pretentious and bloated like a certain one of my pet peeve series. There is really no reason why a cliché cannot be good, and as such, TTGL actually accomplished splendidly what it tried to do. Though unfortunately, I just didn't like it, not because it failed in any way, but simply because I don't really like such flashy and shallow series in the first place, and then there's the thing with the Super mecha of course. So the only bad thing I'd say is that it didn't tickle my fancy. This. *SPOILERS* also Viral imo was the best character in the show. also the OST was full of win. but the show really did my head in, I seem to like certains bits but hate more of it than love. The battles were annoying as it was just "crap im getting the shit kicked out of me, scream for spiral power RAAWWWRRGGH oh look i won" some however were entertaining though. and i really loved how alot of the orginal brigade died in the anti spiral war. |
| im still trying to decide whether I like this anime or not =/ |
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ZeroOnionz said: The BAD: Poorly developed plot and charaters. They could have done a bit more work on them. AND clischee (did i spell that wrong?) like replies. Oh, and it's too casual sometimes. Really, they should have done a serious anime with this plot, but then again TTGL is suppoused to be childish, so i guess it's ok. I like how your "GOOD" is mostly about superficial quasi important aspects of the series. Pretty much, "I like how it looks and how it sounds, plus there's a lot of skin", is what you've just said. As for your "BAD" could you be anymore cliche? FYI - that's how you spell it. Honestly like 99% of the bad reviews out there say the same things over and over as if every series is being held to the same standard that a mythical title long ago set in motion? What is this fabled series? Have I seen it? Anyone mind telling me? In all seriousness, what your asking for is unrealistic. Relative. Picky. I mean do you actually know how BIG this cast it? How VAST this story is made to be? Throwing something like "I wish the character development was better" or "the plot could of been like this" without considering what type of Anime it was or what it aimed for is silly. TTGL is perfect. There's a reason why characters aren't delved into, why the premise is very simple, and even the linear plot; it's no accident. If you want to begin to understand why the series is what it is then first off, GANIAX. Secondly, it's no Aoi Bungaku Series or Rainbow; if it WAS then maybe most of you would have been content in how the series presented itself. Lastly, it accomplishes what it set out for and does it with style and finesse; asking for anything more is crossing the line between fact and opinion, the actual reality with personal taste. There are things, very very few things, that I'd like to see in another light. Possibly entirely different, but I know that's just my personal taste trying to manipulate and dictate my impression of the series. If those things were to take place, I know I probably might like it more, but I know I wouldn't like it less if it stays the same. |
| Good: Kamina Bad: Everything else.. |
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TheChoosen said: Good things: Yoko Bad things: Rest Who are you and why are you reviving dead topics? |
grandy_UiD said: Who cares. Episodic discussions is always being revived because we feel we want to comment on something - not necessarily looking for replies.TheChoosen said: Good things: Yoko Bad things: Rest Who are you and why are you reviving dead topics? |
grandy_UiD said: TheChoosen said: Good things: Yoko Bad things: Rest Who are you and why are you reviving dead topics? I LOLed hard... you sounded like  |
CDRW said: It got boring and serious after Kamina died. Thanks you have re-confirmed my beliefs not to watch it beyond episode 5 |
Air-Dragon said: CDRW said: It got boring and serious after Kamina died. Thanks you have re-confirmed my beliefs not to watch it beyond episode 5 im not even going to bother telling you why thats wrong, your loss pal :) |
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Candor said: Air-Dragon said: For me the first part was the one that was actually boring, rest of the series was way better.CDRW said: It got boring and serious after Kamina died. Thanks you have re-confirmed my beliefs not to watch it beyond episode 5 I watched the series recently so I might as well write what I thought about it (despite the thread being an old one). Good: -How the series was executed -The depth and religious undertones at some points -New and interesting art-style, animation was also great throughout the series -Attenborough, the guy who says "FIRE!" all the time, probably the best character in the whole series Bad: -Too many over-used cliche that sometimes ruined the fun -Yoko, she's just another shallow under-developed female character whose only objective is to please the fans with her juggling boobs and her ass, her emotionless "cool" character, and well, her sniping skills I agree with a few things here. For me the first part was the one that was actually boring. -How the series was executed -The depth and religious undertones at some points -Too many over-used cliche that sometimes ruined the fun The only reason I lasted to episode 5 was Kamina who kept me watching but who ever they killed him and so there goes my interest. The last episodes looks so cheese. eldest said: Air-Dragon said: CDRW said: It got boring and serious after Kamina died. Thanks you have re-confirmed my beliefs not to watch it beyond episode 5 im not even going to bother telling you why thats wrong, your loss pal :) Ya people Tell me my lost but I already skipped in a few parts, not so impressive. I'll give it five more episodes to redeem it self since another person thinks its so great. If not the cat gets it... Update I mean episode 8 and not 5, my mistake. Then quick prejudgment question. In episode 25-26. Is that real kamina back or Simon looking like kamnia? Just to confirm. |
Air-DragonDec 16, 2012 5:12 PM
| TTGL was okay, but Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-Hen (http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=5485) is my super robot show of choice. It doesn't rely on feel-good emotions to get you to rate it the highest possible. It's just better written, plot and character wise. Something like Getter Robo Armageddon (http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=978) is more akin to it. Little logic past episode 3, but a lot of adrenaline moments. |
DocJangarlyDec 19, 2012 9:49 PM
Mechablitz said: TTGL was okay, but Shin Mazinger Shougeki! Z-Hen (http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=5485) is my super robot show of choice. It doesn't rely on feel-good emotions to get you to rate it the highest possible. It's just better written, plot and character wise. Something like Getter Robo Armageddon (http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=978) is more akin to it. Little logic past episode 3, but a lot of adrenaline moments. I'm going to be checking those out, especially Shin Mazinger. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| good : Kamina death bad: over-used cliche , yoko and the ending im the only one that thinks the ending is depressing ? ( not because he lost nia but the fact they just showed simon and yoko doing nothing , simon wondering around until his old and yoko sticking to being a teacher all because kamina died ? so there is nothing important in thier lives! meh it is like what the point of saving earth then.... |
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tsudecimo said: good : Kamina death bad: over-used cliche , yoko and the ending im the only one that thinks the ending is depressing ? ( not because he lost nia but the fact they just showed simon and yoko doing nothing , simon wondering around until his old and yoko sticking to being a teacher all because kamina died ? so there is nothing important in thier lives! meh it is like what the point of saving earth then.... I think whatever Simon wanted to do at this point was up to him. It was probably his choice to wander around as a way to get away from it all. I could be wrong though as I'm kind of fuzzy about the ending. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| simon chose that because the most important stuff in his life disappeared Kamina and nia so he didn't have a reason to stick around but it is depressing and when he was talking to the kid he said he was a nobody , that was really sad. |
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insan3soldiern said: tsudecimo said: good : Kamina death bad: over-used cliche , yoko and the ending im the only one that thinks the ending is depressing ? ( not because he lost nia but the fact they just showed simon and yoko doing nothing , simon wondering around until his old and yoko sticking to being a teacher all because kamina died ? so there is nothing important in thier lives! meh it is like what the point of saving earth then.... I think whatever Simon wanted to do at this point was up to him. It was probably his choice to wander around as a way to get away from it all. I could be wrong though as I'm kind of fuzzy about the ending. Kind of got it mixed up good : Kamina, yoko team gurren bad: over-used cliche , mellow drama kamina clone( even tho i think simon and he are blood brothers?) too much hype in every action and the ending Personally the ending was expected. Most of the show was depressing and not just the ending. |
GoldenBRS said: Good: episodes 1-8 Comedy around yoko Bad Kamnia died, downhill Sounds about right. |
| Good: Everything. Bad: It ended. |
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LordLagann said: ZeroOnionz said: The BAD: Poorly developed plot and charaters. They could have done a bit more work on them. AND clischee (did i spell that wrong?) like replies. Oh, and it's too casual sometimes. Really, they should have done a serious anime with this plot, but then again TTGL is suppoused to be childish, so i guess it's ok. I like how your "GOOD" is mostly about superficial quasi important aspects of the series. Pretty much, "I like how it looks and how it sounds, plus there's a lot of skin", is what you've just said. As for your "BAD" could you be anymore cliche? FYI - that's how you spell it. Honestly like 99% of the bad reviews out there say the same things over and over as if every series is being held to the same standard that a mythical title long ago set in motion? What is this fabled series? Have I seen it? Anyone mind telling me? In all seriousness, what your asking for is unrealistic. Relative. Picky. I mean do you actually know how BIG this cast it? How VAST this story is made to be? Throwing something like "I wish the character development was better" or "the plot could of been like this" without considering what type of Anime it was or what it aimed for is silly. TTGL is perfect. There's a reason why characters aren't delved into, why the premise is very simple, and even the linear plot; it's no accident. If you want to begin to understand why the series is what it is then first off, GANIAX. Secondly, it's no Aoi Bungaku Series or Rainbow; if it WAS then maybe most of you would have been content in how the series presented itself. Lastly, it accomplishes what it set out for and does it with style and finesse; asking for anything more is crossing the line between fact and opinion, the actual reality with personal taste. There are things, very very few things, that I'd like to see in another light. Possibly entirely different, but I know that's just my personal taste trying to manipulate and dictate my impression of the series. If those things were to take place, I know I probably might like it more, but I know I wouldn't like it less if it stays the same. Do you know what you're doing? You're getting mad because someone has a different opinion of you. You're getting mad because someone doesn't like your favorite anime. He stated his reasons for not liking it, and you're pissed at his reasons and want him to have better reasons. You'll have an easier time in life if you learn that others have different opinions than you and you accept them instead of throwing a tantrum over it. |
imagowasp said: Do you know what you're doing? You're getting mad because someone has a different opinion of you. You're getting mad because someone doesn't like your favorite anime. He stated his reasons for not liking it, and you're pissed at his reasons and want him to have better reasons. You'll have an easier time in life if you learn that others have different opinions than you and you accept them instead of throwing a tantrum over it. if you actually read what he posted, he posted why that claim was wrong. just because someone didn't understand the show doesn't make them right, which got pointed out. |
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eldest said: imagowasp said: Do you know what you're doing? You're getting mad because someone has a different opinion of you. You're getting mad because someone doesn't like your favorite anime. He stated his reasons for not liking it, and you're pissed at his reasons and want him to have better reasons. You'll have an easier time in life if you learn that others have different opinions than you and you accept them instead of throwing a tantrum over it. if you actually read what he posted, he posted why that claim was wrong. just because someone didn't understand the show doesn't make them right, which got pointed out. I'm not so sure you're replying to the right person, because what you wrote doesn't really apply to me. But if it does... "Just because someone didn't understand the show doesn't make them right," An opinion can't be right or wrong. |
imagowasp said: eldest said: imagowasp said: Do you know what you're doing? You're getting mad because someone has a different opinion of you. You're getting mad because someone doesn't like your favorite anime. He stated his reasons for not liking it, and you're pissed at his reasons and want him to have better reasons. You'll have an easier time in life if you learn that others have different opinions than you and you accept them instead of throwing a tantrum over it. if you actually read what he posted, he posted why that claim was wrong. just because someone didn't understand the show doesn't make them right, which got pointed out. I'm not so sure you're replying to the right person, because what you wrote doesn't really apply to me. But if it does... "Just because someone didn't understand the show doesn't make them right," An opinion can't be right or wrong. read the quote. it wasnt an opinion, it was a claim based on stupidity. LordLagann said: ZeroOnionz said: The BAD: Poorly developed plot and charaters. They could have done a bit more work on them. AND clischee (did i spell that wrong?) like replies. Oh, and it's too casual sometimes. Really, they should have done a serious anime with this plot, but then again TTGL is suppoused to be childish, so i guess it's ok. I like how your "GOOD" is mostly about superficial quasi important aspects of the series. Pretty much, "I like how it looks and how it sounds, plus there's a lot of skin", is what you've just said. As for your "BAD" could you be anymore cliche? FYI - that's how you spell it. Honestly like 99% of the bad reviews out there say the same things over and over as if every series is being held to the same standard that a mythical title long ago set in motion? What is this fabled series? Have I seen it? Anyone mind telling me? In all seriousness, what your asking for is unrealistic. Relative. Picky. I mean do you actually know how BIG this cast it? How VAST this story is made to be? Throwing something like "I wish the character development was better" or "the plot could of been like this" without considering what type of Anime it was or what it aimed for is silly. TTGL is perfect. There's a reason why characters aren't delved into, why the premise is very simple, and even the linear plot; it's no accident. If you want to begin to understand why the series is what it is then first off, GANIAX. Secondly, it's no Aoi Bungaku Series or Rainbow; if it WAS then maybe most of you would have been content in how the series presented itself. Lastly, it accomplishes what it set out for and does it with style and finesse; asking for anything more is crossing the line between fact and opinion, the actual reality with personal taste. There are things, very very few things, that I'd like to see in another light. Possibly entirely different, but I know that's just my personal taste trying to manipulate and dictate my impression of the series. If those things were to take place, I know I probably might like it more, but I know I wouldn't like it less if it stays the same. Do you know what you're doing? You're getting mad because someone has a different opinion of you. You're getting mad because someone doesn't like your favorite anime. He stated his reasons for not liking it, and you're pissed at his reasons and want him to have better reasons. You'll have an easier time in life if you learn that others have different opinions than you and you accept them instead of throwing a tantrum over it. just because it may be his 'opinion' doesnt mean it cant be blatantly wrong, as pointed out and analyzed in the above quote |
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| Let me says first that I HATED Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. The beggining was so-so, thus half-GOOD and half-BAD. The rest is simply all BAD. But, there is a scene in this anime that I CANNOT say it was BAD, And, all those who hated the series would probably agree with me on that one. In truth, I can't say it was GOOD either because the word isn't even strong enough (with all the capitalized letters). It is one of the best scene I've ever scene... um, seen. It starts in episode 10. It is after Kamina's death. Simon is depressed with lost confidence and confess to Nia. Yoko shows up and ask Simon's to talk about Kamina. Simon: There was one time where we tried to escape our village. But along the way, there was an earthquake, and we were trapped. I was afraid that I'd be crushed to death like my parents. But bro... He told us to keep going and encouraged us... smiling the whole time. My hands stopped shaking. Whenever I was digging in a daze, the earth would say, "Try digging here. It's soft." I would just follow that voice and dig. But if we'd given up back then, we'd all be dead. We were saved... all thanks to Bro. My bro didn't give up even at the end. He was always like that. If it weren't for him, I wouldn't be able to do anything. The next episode. everyone get's trapped in a room by the beastmen. Everybody tries so hard to get out, hit the wall with force to no avail. Then, in their complains, we suddenly hear the sound of rocks being excavated. Everybody shuts up and turns around. In absolute silence, we only see Simon facing the wall, his drill in the hand and digging, tossing dirt regularly on the floor. Yoko realize something, then says: So that's how it was... (She gets Kittan's attention) Kamina told me before. "He's the one that always saves me. He's the one that doesn't give up, even at the end." Kittan: Kamina said that? FLASHBACK Kamina: I didn't have any confidence. I thought I was living the wrong way. Impatiently. Why couldn't I go where my father could? Truthfully, I wasn't strong enough. When we were trapped in that hole, there wasn't anything I could do. But Simon just kept on digging. Believing in my show of courage. In the end, he was the only one who saved me. It was lucky, but... to me, that luck... and that path to escape, all came from believing in Simon. When I feel weak, or when I lack self-confidence, (We see Simon's back as he keep on digging) I remember Simon's back as he dug tirelessly. I wanted to become a man who's back would never break. That's what I thought. Listen Simon... don't forget. Believe in yourself. Not in me, who believes in you. Not in you, who believes in me. Believe... Simon (with fire in his eyes): Believe in yourself! Then BOOM. Lagann appears destroying the rest of the wall. |
MasterHooverApr 21, 2013 12:51 AM
| Good: Kamina. Bad: When Kamina dies. |
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| Good:Drills Bad:Episode 4. |
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process. Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers. |
| Good: Everything before Kamina dies Bad: Everything after Kamina dies, the ending was horrible. Mia vanishes and is gone forever, yoko probably dies a lonely death and simon wanders drunkenly around the planet. Kamina shouldn't have died, this anime took a turn for the worse after. Mia dying ruined the series for me, overall it would not have been that bad if mia survived. |
| Year after year.. ^^ Good: Kamina and Yoko in a sure to be fun anime with an interesting story. Bad: Kamina dies leading to the anime version of having a depression. From there its just downhill. Some random chick appears out of nowhere in a sad attempt to fill the void. Not working. Than some more shit goes on that I don't really care about, since I'm still depressed. Apparently lots of people enjoy being depressed. I just don't get that. |
| What do you mean it's not safe? - Because I'm gonna kick the crap out of you. What else? ~Tsukihime (Manga) |
| Neutral: stupid fun that shouldn't be taken seriously Cartoon Network Code Geass |
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