Everything about this series is bad. Let's start with the story. All we know is that there will be remakes of Battle of Gods and Revival of F, along with a "new" plot line where Goku and Vegeta go to another universe to find Dragon Balls. Interspersed with that is whole episodes of content that would be right at home in DBZ filler. Goten and Trunks go on boring adventures that lead to nothing, add nothing to the universe, and take forever. Goku has loads of boring training sequences that also lead to nothing, add nothing to the universe
and take forever. Beerus and Whis do the exact same things. Every gag sequence in this thing has been done to death and makes me want to claw my eyes and ears out. Isn't it amusing to watch Vegeta have a surly look on his face while generic silly things happen around him for umpteenth time?
Speaking of Vegeta, the characters. They've all been reduced to quirks. Kame-Sennin pervs 24/7, Chi-Chi never stops yelling, Vegeta is constantly having meltdowns over Kakarot, Videl and #18 are generic anime girlfriends, but at least Goku rarely ever been anything more than a quirk, so he's fine. Out of all of these, Vegeta is by the far the worst. The show has entirely discarded his character arc from Z. The writers are so horrible that they can't actually write Vegeta, they have to write a cardboard cutout angry man with Vegeta's face on it. I can't say anything positive about Beerus or Whis either. Beerus blows things up for no reason, wants to fight the Super Saiyan God for no reason and acts like a child. Whis sits there and acts like his nanny, contributing nothing whatsoever.
The animation style is lazy and, as seen in episode 4, prone to random massive changes in style. We could give that kind of thing a pass back in the 80s, but Toei is loaded with cash and profitable properties, Dragon Ball is surrounded with unstoppable hype right now, and they can't even produce a decent looking show? The animation simply has no life. It's really just phoning it in. If they could simply find some animators who gave a sh*t and wanted to make the show look good, it could happen.
The people making this show simply don't care about it. They churn out the exact same dreck that they did back in GT, relying on the popularity and nostalgia of the Dragon Ball to carry the entire thing. Something as completely half-assed and lifeless as this show is incapable of drawing me in, it's incapable of making me care what happens on the screen and it is incapable of producing anything interesting, fresh or surprising. The show is a cynical cash-grab with no passion or care driving it forward. It's going to putt along, then end with a clunk and be forgotten along with GT.
Look I think I understand what is wrong with the people giving bad reviews to this brilliant anime, they are being too..Kantian...let me explain.
I am not a big anime fan in general, yet I grew up watching and reading Dragon ball and let me tell you a secret: I believe we all should keep in mind: the beauty of Dragon ball is its diversity of registry, ranging between comedy, romance, horror, drama...and whatever you may think of.
Each character in Dragon ball is endowed with affinity towards a specific element...BUT still each character has some room to expand and switch between his less dominant traits. Even
Yajirobē had its dramatic moments, as well Piccolo had its comedic ones.
The same is true for the whole chapters, yes Dragon ball Z has a more mature and dramatic tone than the original Dragon ball and Dragon ball GT is surely much more of a commercial product which targets younger audiences...BUT these are all generalizations and they can only grasp a very blurred idea of what each of the chapter is.
Dragon ball Super is a fresh, inspired look in the world of Dragon ball, offering beautiful artworks and some brilliant story-telling, the right combination of comedy relief and thundering action. The comic scenes with King Kai at the beginning are just the treat, Beerus and Whis turn out to be absolute comic geniuses on par with mythological Master Roshi in the original Dragon ball or Old Kai in DBZ. The battle sequences between Goku and Beerus in deep space are unprecedented and IMO they set a milestone for the whole saga in awesomeness.
I think that much a better work could and should have been done with the characters of Gohan,Chichi,Krilin,Goten,Trunks,Piccolo&Co, it seems that the Beerus, Whis, Goku&Vegeta, Bulma got a first-class script while the rest of the family is stuck with cliché and predictable/boring dialogue.
About Vegeta, I think he has the potential to become the most loved (good) character in the series, he is smart, strong, has great timing in its lines and action being (almost) always at the right place at the right time story-wise.
I cannot but highly recommend this Dragon ball Super who stole my heart and brought me back almost 20 years* and wish you to have as much fun as I had!
hello Everyone! This is my first review here so I'll try my best on reviewing this show thus far through my viewing.
This will be quite a surprise for me to say this but I am actually enjoying this series more than I thought. I know right? Since its A first I need to come out and state why I'm enjoying it. You see it has been a LONG time since we heard there was going to be a new series for the Dragonball Franchise after all, It is a major household name in anime.
I'd advise anyone who are thinking of watching Dragonball Super to
have at the very least watch the previous seasons Dragonball, Dragonball Z and Dragonball kai or just reading the manga otherwise you won't understand much of what is going on thus far if you have not so just thought I should let you know.
Now this might sound weird and completely off to some people out there but I actually prefer this series more for its build up and its variety of content with each episode that feels like it is a genuine continuation, YES I know! So far its just a lesser quality rehash of the 2 movies of battle of gods and Revival of F but from a series standpoint its still at the same time its an interesting continuation of the manga of what its setting up for and I'll gladly say so even if others are put off by it.
So far in comparison to the first Dragonball, Z and GT whether you are considering comparing them or not, I feel that this gets in a nice stride of fun with that nice sense of comedy relief with its characters in its continuation which in foremost is great to see that it still retains that Akira Toriyama spirit in his depiction which is why I fell in love with the franchise in the first place and I'm glad they didn't decide to bring out some random black star dragonballs out of nowhere which was stupidly added in GT which I didn't like (though I did like his art design for some of the characters in GT) Problem was he wasn't handling the story especially when the story thought it was a good idea to turn Goku into a child throughout the whole ordeal which I found extremely pointless.
So I'm glad seeing that in this series so far, characters like Goku, Vegeta and many of the others made me feel like I'm watching a proper continuation FINALLY in terms of its setting and surroundings with these certain memorable moments that have happened in the arcs so far.
Beerus definitely feels a little more antagonizing than he was in battle of gods which the show strides to show more and more as it goes along. seen as I watched the film I also noticed some differences with the story in comparison to the movie which is thankfully good in terms elaborating on certain key points in term flushes out more content that will seem to show other alternative points within each episodes that is coming out so far and that alone is evident and exciting also.
Finally the art has had an UPGRADE!! about damn time despite the fact Toei Animation studios lack consistency now and then.
its nothing as dynamic and obviously won't be to that movie quality but it still feels very refreshing to see something not dated for dragonball in 2015 which is nice.
The opening is brilliant too with good animations and hints to where the journey is bound to take the viewers along in their stride of the story with the showcase of new characters and the music is really good and doesn't feel repetitive at all. In fact I'm watching the episodes with the opening so far which goes to show how good the song is.
The ending if you have seen the previous series also has nice touching memories of nostalgia which the ending songs complements it nicely.
My real main issue of the show so far is that the story seems to get a bit too quirky and extensive at times which is my main gripe with this show mainly. but so far its getting into build up and also giving way for the fights that will take place in its simplistic approach at this very moment which feels easy for me to sit through and just enjoy the fun.
Now do not go into this with high expectation just because its Dragonball, otherwise it won't be to your liking, after all its an 80s anime in its continuation of the modern day that still retains those very aspects of what made this franchise stand tall for so long now from back then, Of course its not for everyone If others are not willing to tolerate this show for what it is than do not bother anyway.
Also try thinking of watching this as just another fun, simple and yet silly shounen appetizer after the big main course, that being the previous seasons of the Dragonball franchise. So far I'm enjoying the moment.
There could be many new stuff to come along the way so who knows..
Thank you for reading and have a great day wherever you are ;)
One thing real funny for a few days I've been here on MAL is how many reviewers pick this as a first review and I wonder why that is?
Maybe because this series has a big following of fans that feel they have been let down. So why not rub salt in there wounds for a change, It would be so easy to do right? Wrong because I'm 1 of them.
To tell you the truth, I'm a fan who takes criticism with ease and unlike certain reviewers I can say rightfully about my pros and cons with this show without feeling ashamed of watching something
that people have tried their best to disregard or even tried to like, (''like you really need to try hard to watch something??'')
Honestly its possibly the lamest excuse for anyone who thinks that they are actually trying to say that they are, especially in just 5 episodes!
XD really guys??..
Reviewers here I've seen most of the time just feed a lot of negativity and don't expect readers to take that much notice that they are not even trying, instead all you have here is a bunch of reviewers just hating left and right and you know what you can do if you hate something? just drop it, No, better yet lets make others feel completely negative about it just because its your own valid opinion of you wanting to spread only negative aspects towards this show without properly critiquing the anime instead just ranting about the mere 5 episodes is pretty laughable don't you think? I know I do.
First allow me to bring my view of the show from a more fairer standpoint and not some sideshow rant to get others attention just because its not to your liking or even theirs so that only a majority of readers that read a dragon ball super review should just end up hating on Dragon ball Super at the end of the day altogether, Well Too bad you haters.
Because I'm here to give my review from an objective standpoint of a fan who has seen and read Toriyama's work unlike you so called fans or haters which ever one you are.
Story - 6
Its pretty basic, the story is a continuation after the Majin Buu arc that takes place sometime after some time (Its not yet specific as to when in this series)
however It doesn't mean its right at the end of Dragon ball Z like some people by accident think, but it does somewhat takes place in between the 2 since there was a 10 year time gap after the majin buu saga and before UuB is even introduce into the story. questionable I know but writer Akira Toriyama along with Toyotarō who handles the manga adaptation for Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ anime and Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ Special One Shot.
Toyotarō is also the official artist of the manga version of Dragon Ball Super and toriyama's staff can usually have certain weaknesses when it comes to consistency and handling such a big franchise then again it has those inconsistencies within the story towards whatever comes and goes in and outside the franchise.
Now I can understand if the confusion for some people as well as fans, well that is if you were paying attention with the story of battle of gods which mostly aren't in some people's cases here and to point out with what the movie was showing was an indication from Toriyama's setting placing these films as parts of the dragon ball super series.
YES toriyama is putting the same storyline from the latest movies but that is not the entire focus of dragon ball Super neither is Frieza's Revival of F we get it everyone in the universe has seen it.
Yes it does include rehashing the 2 movies which is a bad drawback here in terms of fans expectation as well as the fact that these movies are still very recent and I get it, Its not acceptable for starting this new series off towards but I still liked to see them to do certain tweaks with its story in regards to the movies, But the main question I guess is Do they do it and does it make that much of a difference?
This is a mix bag while yes they have made a few certain alterations in some nice ways in the episodes but in terms if it really made that much of a difference? Than If I'm being honest it really at the same time doesn't.
This isn't to say its a discouraging thing though, Instead this certain continuation in a way I believe hold these ideas as part of something big to happen for later on.
In the manga and interviews toriyama has referenced a new UNIVERSE 6 with there being 12 universes mentioned as part of it lore in that shares these 2 movies as part of a long series and I've seen some of the episode listing and its as how these reviewers try describing to you saying that ''OH CRAP THIS ENTIRE SERIES IS THE 2 MOVIES WITH FILLER'' (yes because the author is getting the members of the same staff from GT working on this who wasn't satisfied with GT wants to do another. WOW well done Einstein but your wrong as this is cannon so you can bow out.)
Some have laughably mentioned that these 2 movies take up 100 episodes as most of the majority which is false considering the last point of battle of gods in super is actually within the 12 episodes after the first 2 episode. ''WHAT!? WHY DO I HAVE TO SEE THAT FOR 14 EPISODES?
Easy answer, FOR THE NEW INTRODUCTION OF CONTENT THAT CONTINUES IN THE SERIES AND FURTHER ON DUH, The same goes for revival of F as they are also giving way for certain added features in the mean time on top of this long story, the real question is are you willing to tread far with what ever new content starts going into this series??
If so, STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE FIRST 5 EPISODES BEING SHIT IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY CARE WHERE THE STORY IS GOING,
IF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ANY FURTHER. After All I intend to give an objective review, which doesn't mean I'm praising it, let alone Bashing it.
If you do have a question that you need to address me with you can do so if you not sure on what I'm stating in my review.
If after the review you are feeling annoyed about my score you can just skip it if you think I'm just wasting Your time. Got it?.
Continuing on, The story in its continuation has an interesting layout so far and I can say I like how the story is expanding on with its new content however there are a lot of inconsistencies so far which seems pretty obvious.
The story isn't trying to recapture a complete essence of nostalgia but mostly its trying to stay closer to toriyama's light hearted and comedic themes with its continuation in a proper manner where the time skip has happen after the events of majin buu onwards and this would be through the characters we know already of since the start such as Goku as well as the other characters old and new and even those that are strangely in between playing somewhat of a role into this.
Beerus who is a major threat to goku and others recalls a dream to his assistant whis where he predicts that he will face against the super saiyan god. knowing that there is a connection to the saiyan race as well how beerus says about him ordering frieza to depose of the race as he did not like King vegeta now to me it diminishes frieza's character as a villain but can be argued that it makes beerus that more antagonizing and possibly a threat in a lot of ways.
By the 4th episode we see the supporting characters such as krillin, 18, Tien, yamcha and others play out in the very segment that happens in the movie but in a different location, that doesn't mean to say things change much because for the most part it still showcases a lot of slapstick sillyness which really at times isn't my fancy.
As goku trains, king kai is aware of the incoming threat that heads to his planet being beerus and whis as they head to confront the last remaining saiyans about the super saiyan god in the hopes of a duel. however these are just the beginning of these episodes. Where we really move from the movies we go into new territory that brings the fans more attention to what has been pretty much setting up for the story. which honestly is a long while but where you want to see new content and not the movies Episode 28 will be that point of interest for those interested.
Characters - 7
Now despite the fact there really hasn't been too much progression with lots of these characters. For me to go through each of them for analysis is personally too long individually all at once though lets be honest,
You wouldn't watch this series in the first place if you haven't seen the previous seasons or read the dragonball manga but lets get something straight here.
From the very 1st episode, A time of peace has happened as usual from the theme that begins in most dragon ball settings during timeskips.
Goku now alive at this point from the other world is pretty much unsatisfied with his earthly lifestyle which is funny since this is the real first significance in the series where goku is actually working as a family man along with goten, yes gohan and videl we know are easily together at this point as well being that its 6 months later after the events of the Buu arc.
Hercule is still regarded as the planet saviour from the public. feeling grateful he gives the prize money to goku and his family which I thought was fair since goku was the true warrior that save the world from the threat of buu.
From there goku continues to train with King Kai, Meanwhile goku's rival vegeta is more in tune with his family despite feeling uncomfortable with living a regular family lifestyle with trunks and bulma. Vegeta has come to recognise from the time he fought buu he has changed to feeling more of a connection to his family as well as having the same smug exterior and also still even more determined to surpass goku.
Beerus and Whis who we got to know from battle of gods are extremely powerful beings that are roaming across the galaxy as they see fit.
Beerus being the most chaotic of the 2 destroys multiple planets and civilisations whenever he is not in a good mood or doesn't like the food which at times will feel a lot more silly but at the same time enjoyable to watch for these 2 characters in terms of those comedic moments.
Beerus for me, is the stand out character of the show so far.
I love BEERUS-SAMA!
The way the writers have build him up so far has been very good in terms of a new big threat within the overall world of the franchise and a unique individual among the cast in general which for me is a smart entertaining addition to the story so far.
Again there is a lot that could happen from now with the characters, that can change from here on so we'll see a lot more of the other characters in depth later on.
The real bad of this story has been a lot of its writing inconsistencies at along with its characterisation at times which has been a major gripe I've been having with the show so far. Though Its writing in the franchise in general hasn't really always shown those thoughtful consistency it still at the very least caters to trying to being entertaining in other ways that it conveys in its mood of the characters in general.
It doesn't regard to being picky to a certain demographic nor does it try to steer away from its traditional fun that it places its content with the story since it knows its own entertaining aspects of its genre lies towards in and is for the most part very casual in its very approach in that sense.
Art/Animation - 6
I can agree with most of the reviewers here that episode 5 art was god awful which got a lot more strange with the thick outlines that was present throughout episode 4 which tells me that Toei Animations that have handled a lot of series with long amount of episodes will usually find it very tough to keep the work rate consistent which is a real shame since its been a long time that dragonball fans would get the chance to watch a new dragonball anime that has a difference in art and animation and its sad that early on as this.
The first 3 episodes to me are still decent and not that bad at all And I feel unlike certain others that its dreadful throughout like a lot want you to believe.
But it also doesn't excuse A rich company like Toei Animation at times have this ongoing reputation of poor handling of art and animations in series such as One Piece, World Trigger, Digimon, Toriko, Sailor Moon, Yu-Gi-Oh along with SO many others that toei I feel are mainly damaging their own reputation because these are some major household names that they have the rights to the handling of the art and animation in the process.
I simply cannot ignore that they are being quite disrespectful to the shows including most of all Dragonball Super and its fans in terms of their service. Dragonball as a franchise has been one of their biggest profits. I mean just look at how well Battle of Gods and Revival of F did here in the west.
(Which I know already some are mixed on it anyways)
To me its just odd for a studio that has had great earnings and yet are making this show with inconsistent art and animations in the way it has been for episodes 4 and 5, Though recently it has been handled carefully as of late.
Its Easily not a favourable studio amongst the fans which is obvious, They seemed to have less acknowledgement in what they are doing which I don't believe that to be the characters or the writing what so ever but the animators and designers behind the way certain episodes are handled which is unfortunate and yet Toei have also been known to up the quality when it is needed like they did when they showed off the transformation of SSJ3 Goku but then they didn't keep up with its consistency which makes this section a mixed bag here. then again that possibly could alter or change sometimes.
Hell even creator toriyama, TORIYAMA!! of all people was unhappy with the state of its animation and came out about his feelings on it, so you know this is already an issue.
However the Visual have started to make a much better improvement now and now I absolutely applaud them for that even at times the art might look a little wonky it is becoming a lot more handled with better care than that of episode 5 at this point.
Sound - 6
Apart from some of the characters that sound off in their performance other voice actors such Ryo Horikawa as Vegeta, Kouichi Yamadera as Beerus and Tien, Tsuru Hiromi as Bulma, Morita Masakazu as Whis along with most of the cast sound fine as their respective characters however I don't like the voice actress for goku even though she is notably great in other roles, Jouji Yanami as King Kai I feel he should stick to being the narrator as his performance is showing a rather abysmal display, And I mean no disrespect when saying this.
The music is can be good at times but then other times it can also be a underwhelming which is lacks that overall feel to some certain scenes.
This goes without saying but I love The Dragonball Super's opening theme!!!
The song is very easy on the ear to listen to and not so overblown out of proportion that it feels like another show entirely and It goes well with the art and animation. .
Good morning America also has a nice light hearted beat for its ending as it serves to bring more of a simple and fun movement at its core.
Sumitomo has done a few tracks in the series for specific scenes I like so far but not all his soundtracks really hit it out of the park in the way I would of liked it but that might be just down to my own personal taste I guess.
Enjoyment - 7
Unlike most of the hate and negative thoughtless reviews this show is ridiculously getting in the space of 5 episodes and so on. I have found the story while having the movies displaying within this series still to be quite reliable with its continuation as a natural viewer I've appreciate some of its episodes so far but its still got ways to carry on from here in terms of that necessary quality of recent animes of this present day and as a fan, It is still pretty exciting and enjoyable without the fact of me feeling that much neglect on what the previous series stood for in terms of its own brand of entertainment.
I'd for one say foremost that this is a okay continuation after Z even if you disagree, Compared to other reviewers I do have great knowledge on this series and I can tell where it delivers so for those looking to write the most negative review about this show are only serving to make other feel negative where I have addressed this in a more constructive fairer manner than these other jokers that can't barely write a review let alone an insult that anyone probably would have heard so many times over by now.
Overall - 6
I suggest sticking to the manga as well as the anime if you just want to see where toriyama is going at times with the story. And yes I know the manga is monthly and the anime is weekly which btw the anime is ahead at this moment of time.
But you still should check out the difference in between though the anime will at times will easily overtake the manga itself which can effect the state of any writers of A story that will have many fans constantly debating what they want all the time which will be at times a real big chore of trying satisfy those out there and toriyama has been known to have those inconsistencies a lot of times of trying to always keep trying to meet fans expectations despite this and other ambitions.
Now and then I feel how passionate and fun the story wants to stay no matter how others will perceive it to be.
Its also a driving force that we even got a new dragonball series and now viewers around at times even after getting a new series is just bitch and moan when something never goes there way which by the way we all can be guilty of this among any written fiction no matter what, so it shouldn't come as a surprise in the way people behave about this franchise (Not saying you can't be critical but at the same time should never over analyse to the point knowing what the series represents as to what it had always started out as a
simple, fun, battle shonen in the first place) so deal with it.
The main thing is to have fun with the franchise in general, without going off the deep end of it.
As a fan I've been able to watch the previous series prior to this one which I enjoy still especially since its art/animation was very much ahead of its time from long ago but if you still want to hear more negativity and very blind insights around you because of someones over analysis of it then go right ahead because I for one, don't have any shame of watching Dragon ball super so far and you shouldn't either, After all everyone has different taste as well as mine of just being a dragon ball fan and I'm proud of that.
Continuing the Journey now. Later.
Feel free to ask me any questions about dragon ball super or
my just review in general.
So, Dragon Ball Super. A series widely criticized and panned from the beginning, due to a multitude of things. Retelling the past 2 movies, poor animation quality, etc. But as you can see by my score, I actually really like this show! Is it perfect? No, just look at some of those first 27 episodes, and you can really see a struggle to get episodes out.
This isn't a review of episodes 28-89, it's a review from episode 1. I'll be reviewing each arc separately, before wrapping it all up with my overall thoughts.
-Battle of Gods-
The animation overall during this arc is, in my opinion..pretty good. It tries to imitate the cleaner art style of the movie, and I think it succeeds, for the most part. Minus the extreme mess that was the original airing of episode 5. The story is pretty much just a retelling of the movie, stretched out into 13/14 episodes. Some of the fight scenes are now longer, some filler scenes have been added, or new perspectives. It's pretty minor stuff, not a whole lot to change my mind about the movie. If you want the "definitive" Battle of Gods experience, I recommend watching the movie, but also watch some of the new scenes, and that last fight can be swapped out for the TV version.
Look. I'm not the biggest fan of the original movie, and sadly this arc does little-to-nothing to improve upon the original material. Time restrictions and tight schedules led to poor animation, and it really shows in some of the later episodes. There's this odd addition of Captain Ginyu that just happens at one point, for around 5 minutes, but that's really all of note. I'd say skip this arc, just watch the movie. Or don't watch the movie, and read the manga. It's up to you.
Yes! The first real original content to come from Super...and it's a tournament arc. Okay, I know people like tournament arcs, whether it be My Hero Academia or Hunter x Hunter, and fans of the original Dragon Ball probably appreciate them doing a tournament arc. To me, however, that's one of the issues of this arc: it's just a tournament. There aren't really any stakes, no universe-destroying threat, it's a fight compilation. And while the fights are pretty good (Hit vs Goku for example), and the arc certainly sets up later stories as well as introducing some new and unique characters, there's not much else. If you just want some good fights, then yeah, I can recommend this arc. If you want a tournament with stakes..I'll save that for later.
-Future Trunks/Goku Black-
As a fan of Future Trunks, you can bet I was excited when I heard that he'd be in the "newest arc of Dragon Ball Super". Any excuse to give Eric Vale more work is fine with me. But then I saw an "evil Goku", and I was intrigued. Before I dig deep into this arc, a few things:
• Yes, the time travel did get convoluted at times, but I still enjoyed it
• Yes, the Potara retcon did annoy me at first, but I believe it will allow for more Vegito
• Yes, the ending was a little lackluster, but I enjoyed it
Now, with that out the way, I can truly dig in. Goku Black is a great villain, with a great voice in both English (via Xenoverse 2) and Japanese. Seeing how the Kaioshin from Universe 10 differ from the ones of Universe 7 was also nice. I loved seeing Trunks as a broken man, fighting for what little was left of humanity in his timeline. The arc was full of great moments, like the Final Kamehameha, Super Saiyan Rage (or even Rosé), and the conversation between Future Trunks and kid Trunks. By far, my favorite arc of Super so far. I do not recommend skipping it, but I do recommend reading the manga in addition to watching the anime. The differences between the two are interesting, to say the least.
Limit Break x Survivor is amazing. The subtle changes in the art style that were made are noticeable, and add a layer of beauty to the show. The fact that Goku sort of caused this arc by suggesting the tournament back in the Universe 6 arc shows to me that the writers remember previous arcs. Although we're still in the build-up to the actual tournament, I can clearly say why I think it's better than Super's other tournament arc.
• It has real stakes, the destruction of multiple universes
• Each member of our main team has had development
• Goku's attitude has turned against him, everyone is targeting him
• It feels like the story could go anywhere, while setting things up
Despite a rocky start, and lackluster moments, Dragon Ball Super has - at least in my eyes, become an entertaining and fun show to watch every week, with an endless amount of possibilities for the story. While it still takes place in that 10 year gap between the end of the Buu saga and the last episode of Z, I wouldn't be surprised if it went past that final moment after the Universe Survival arc. In fact, I hope it does! See, I enjoy Super so much because of where it could go with its concepts. Gods, other universes, I'm really interested where the story goes next.
If you're a Dragon Ball fan, or just want some good fights, I definitely recommend Super. If you were turned off by the early episodes and their animation, give it another chance, will ya?
I know that since the start, many have given up on this series, But as for me I've enjoyed the start to this series so far as well as seeing characters we have known for so long now are back yet again.
Would I say its as good as the previous seasons? Definitely not.
but I guess that will be subjective since it still hasn't gotten too far into this new story at the moment but it sure as HELL still beats Dragonball GT AKA GOKU TIME. Which as you guessed was the only purpose of that show was for Goku's character to have the
entire spotlight and very little development unlike anybody else who hardly got any time to shine at all with there being no BEERUS, no WHIS, VADOS, HIT, JACO, or anything to show except for the badass SSJ4 Transformation which you don't see until the halfway point of GT. Apart from that, The entire thing was disappointing and forgettable which is why a lot of fans knew GT Sucked and why its only saving grace was its Art and its Japanese music score other than that everything else about it Lacked in execution Etc.
Now as for Dragonball Super, It is sort of a continuation and at the same it isn't which is really weird if I'm being honest.
The problem so far with this premise from the start is that its hard to know the exact time where this series sort of starts off from. All that is mentioned is that it begins shortly after the Majin Buu arc in Dragonball Z after the defeat of Kid Buu.
The first episode starts with Goku working in the fields with his son Goten as hes finding his new lifestyle quite dull, he is than met by Hercule who gives him a large sum of money for saving the world from majin buu, thanks to hercule, goku can go ahead in continuing his usual training that he so obsesses over while goten and trunks go on their mini adventure in finding a gift for videl. Meanwhile Vegeta finally plays the role of being a proper father to Trunks and husband to Bulma though that doesn't last to long knowing what saiyans can be like at times.
Now from this point I don't think I need to mention too much of the premise of the story so far since after the first 2 episodes it pretty much follows the story told in the movie of Battle of gods with added padding which will be a turn off to some viewers out there which I don't blame since I also expected something of a new start which Isn't to say its bad but it isn't good thing either in the way how many fans feel mislead. but as of now Its working very well and obviously its been a series that was bound to happen whether you like it or not isn't relevant because Its here now.
Some parts of the anime feel slows and not really that inspiring what so ever and other times it feels like its rushing on too far ahead which for the series is something that needs to improve on now.
Dragonball Super at times can be entertaining and can get viewers demanding more pretty quick depending how you can tolerate it. So for the most part its best to not go into this series with such a high expectation of this, Otherwise It will feel stressful to get through since I feel the author Toriyama and Toei Animation in general are still living in the past.
From the manga the current co writer of dragonball super, Toyotaro who is the writer of the dragon ball super manga is sticking very close at hand to toriyama's style. That alone could prove to provide some good material but maybe not always to the extent that we, the viewers want. which is always going to be a really tough thing in terms of living up to what has been previously done before in the franchise.
My main concern with this series is how would this effect dragonball Z current ending where we left off from. after all we got to see new characters towards the end such as Uub, Pan, Bra, teen Goten and Trunks which would of been really cool if they were the new main characters of this series and If they were a lot more older like they were in the end of Z but even at this point on I'm not sure what Toriyama or Toei Animation is thinking besides GIVE ME MONEY or whatever.
So far in the story it has taken quite a familiar route in terms of what has been done but at least its more dragonball so I'm thankful on that note (again my opinion).
I appreciate that the animation is not dated like it was in the past and has been decent at some points but other times it looks Absolutely shameful in this day and age.
This is not great at all despite the fact the first couple of episodes were really good and that episode 5 was really bad up and till now it has been very inconsistent especially where it should matter and that is in its action scenes but they have been very mediocre so far.
The only great fight scene so far that has been done in all honesty to me was Goku Vs Beerus Godlike fight!! (Which most dragonball fights usually excel at) and yet since that there hasn't been many action scenes noteworthy which is a problem. at the same time the episodes are still watchable and I tend to enjoy some of the comedy, slice of life moments through the arcs now and then. Another thing that is great in this series is that you don't have see as much long segments of shouting and powerups like before, so keep that in mind.
Toei Animation as some may know unless you really are living under a rock have a bad reputation with having too many projects on their hands to deal with along with their pre-production of new workers and whoever thats in charge of handling of the episodes and its source material would stop making this franchise so inconsistent then it already is now.
So its no surprise on how they are going about this and considering how popular this franchise was before and still IS,
You would think they would they would at least for the most part take the time to learn how to plan ahead of time and to animate their stuff properly regardless of their budget and working conditions to how they are finding it tough which to me is only excuse of demanding more business profit without even really taking to much care or consideration over the show or its fanbase.
Can WE just for once have some thought put into this SHOW!!?
Come ON TOEI!! This is SERIOUS business here anyone of us could do a better job than what they are doing with Super so far And Plus SUPER?! Really thats the best title they could come up with? never mind the fact its connected to the whole lore of the Super Dragonballs itself.
Besides my annoyance so far what I will say I'm enjoying the most so far in this are the characters such as their take on Beerus who is overwhelmingly powerful in this version and rightfully so being a God of destruction than he was in the movie and I do like seeing the other characters now but to be fair I would of like to expect more urgency put into the story like for example A great new Galactic Threat anyone? with such powerful characters appearing and being introduce there has been a real lack in terms of danger
IN This SHOW! Why!?
To be fair I know the chances of danger is there as it has been in the previous series despite the fact there dragonballs but now with powerful characters maintaining balance the problem is the danger is always going to be imminent to begin with.
I can only hope that the new content also from here on in would be enough to suffice after 28 episodes in but if it isn't I will have to resort to putting my rating further down for this show.
Now the Biggest Gripe I liked to mention in Dragonball Super, is its struggle to recall its glory days of the previous series. The plot takes fans on a roller coaster ride through less tension or urgency ever occurring which I will now touch upon.
So to start off, Each arcs has its own virtues and vices, and have slowly but steadily improved with some new content. Battle of The Gods saga can sum up as a frustrating comedic circus of characters that focuses more on family values and food than martial arts or self improvement.
Dragonball Super honestly might as well play out like a family comedy with few occasional action segments in between. The God of Destruction's goals seem to revolve around delicious meals rather than universal annihilation or ambition. Thus, dish after dish of Japanese cuisine is served throughout certain arcs, taking the place of questing for dragon balls and martial arts training. After an anti-climatic ending, the next saga jumps immediately into the action and then after that it just falls into real retarded stuff after.
Though more action-packed, the Resurrection of F story arc relies heavily on nostalgia to make up for faults of the previous arc. The positive qualities of this arc can be found in flashbacks, A former villain returning in Frieza and fight sequences that look straight out of WWE! funny enough I prefer this over that crap any day of the week Imo, no offence to WWE Fans though Its still plagued by comedic distractions like Jaco the space patrolman and strawberry sundaes so what ever rows your boat I guess.
However Jaco is made for some real good moments for his character especially within Super.
Now for the current Arc this multi-universal tournament is the series’ first opportunity to show viewers what DBS is really all about. More new opponents are introduced to provide more combat, however the new characters appearance are just unappealing A lot of these new characters are simply just recycled character designs.
The fights shown are completely underwhelming and we that dragonball as a franchise excels in this really well but Toei Animation just Shits all over this making the characters mundane in their understanding and progression as well as making fans doubt a lot what they have seen from Dragonball and Dragonball Z Respectively which is sad to see.
Catch all that? Yes, that is how its been so far in terms of its inconsistencies that it has shown In other words It has taken over 30 episodes of recycled scripts and filler, but at this point I cant really judge the entirety of this review until I see this arc and the rest of Dragonball Super play out.
We know from watching this far this series that it hasn't really tried to step up so far which I have no idea why but at the same time because we are in an entirely new arc we finally have gained some traction by shifting its focus back to the action, putting down the fork, leaving the wife and kids on the sidelines, and stepping back into the ring in the midst of fight.
For me they should of just let this series rest along with many other series I can think of out there. however I've always been in favourite of this franchise and like a lot of anime out there that isn't going to change.
Story thus far: 5
Animation/Art: IGN Rating 10/10. My rating: TOEI GO FUCK YOURSELVES!.
Overall: Undecided but for me its a 5 which In case you don't know it means just Average.
I recommend checking out the manga if your that desperate since its better handled than the anime. Do keep in mind however that the manga is monthly and is only just been overtaken by the anime at this point.
Other than that Do not be in a rush to check this anime out at all just yet, not until everything of this show is said and done which will be a long time but either way take my advice.
Firstly, the beginning of the show is based off of a movie called : Dragon ball: Battle of Gods. The movie is roughly 2 hours long and they plan to fill that all in ~30 episodes. Do you imagine that? Some episodes ( like the 4th one ) are complete fillers. Literally the story hasn't progressed over 20 minutes.
Story: Don't waste your time watching 30 episodes ( 10 hours ) when you can see it all ( plus extremely better animation ) in 2 hours. The story isn't bad , but I wouldn't suggest watching the anime just for it.
The voice actor for
King Kai is extremely old. When King shouts you can see his mouth opening through your whole screen, but you can barelly hear what he says. It just looks like he is shouting but all you can hear are some whispers..
Art. I don't even want to talk about it. It was okay in the first 3-4 episodes. In the 5th, however, it looks like fighting scenes were done using Microsoft Paint. It is extremely bad and you can look up the pictures online. The animation was 10 times better in the Dragon Ball Z which was made more than 15 years ago.
Overall : Don't even bother. It's a complete disaster and a waste of time. I was so hyped for this show and I'm sure it also disappointed many other fans. Don't waste your time and just watch the movies.
As one of the most fanatical Dragon Ball fans on all of MAL, I REALLY wanted to love Dragon Ball Super! The first canon movie Battle of Gods was highly entertaining and while Resurrection of Freeza had some clear flaws, it was pretty decent for a DBZ movie. When I heard that an all new Dragon Ball series was being made with a high budget and Toriyama writing the story I was absolutely thrilled! This was going to restore Dragon Ball to its rightful place on the throne of Shonen anime and banish those pathetic usurpers like One Piece, Fairy Tail, and Bleach! Instead of
being in a state of Elysian ecstasy, I am 5 episodes in and DB Super is the True Detective Season 2 of anime! Yes, it's THAT fucking bad!
Much like the near universally hated DBGT, Super tries really hard to recapture the whimsical comedy and youthful feeling that the original Dragonball manga had in the 1980s. This is problematic for several reasons. Firstly, Toriyama is 30 years older and doesn't write in the same style that he used to. When he tries to go back and write the way he did as a young man it feels incredibly forced and unnatural. Secondly, a series can go from being innocent and youthful to a more mature and dark tone as it ages alongside its audience. There are many examples of this including the Harry Potter novels, the Hobbit's transformation into Lord of the Rings, etc. However, it is NOT easy for a series to go from childish to more mature, and then back to childish while aimed largely at the same peer group. That has literally never worked in the history of fiction and it NEVER will! American Comics may no longer be as "edgy dark" and pointlessly violent as during the "Dark Age" of the late 1980s-1990s, but at the same time US Comics are NOT trying to go back to the pure cheese and golly gee willikers bullshit of the Silver Age! Once the Dark Age opened Pandora's Box and audiences started expecting some level of maturity out of Western Comics, they can never really go back to the way they were in the 1950s. No one liked it when GT made this mistake and yet Super completely ignores audience feedback and does it anyways!
Another HUGE problem with Super's plot is that instead of starting the audience with a new adventure it decides to pointlessly re-write the events of Battle of Gods while making small changes for no reason. So is Battle of Gods canon or not? Did Bulma's birthday take place at Capsule Corp or on a cruise ship? Why would they say Battle of Gods is canon, Super is canon, and then change details so that one of these 2 clearly isn't canon?! Maybe Super takes place in an alternate timeline or universe? At least that would make it easy for the fandom to write off and forget. DB Super waits 5 episodes to have a fight, and it is simply a horrendous and embarrassingly bad retcon of the fight we already saw done FAR better in Battle of Gods. Goku was told that Beerus is far stronger than Majin Buu, so in the movie Goku of course starts fighting at SS3 level and is quickly defeated. Yet in Super they for some reason made Goku so stupid that he tries to fight Beerus at SS1 level despite knowing he is stronger than Buu and even Fat Buu could crush SS1 Goku! WHY!? Even the Abridged version of Goku is like Einstein compared to Goku in DB Super!
Finally, Super is not just content being really stupid and failing at comedy, nor is it content retconning Battle of Gods into a vastly inferior remake. Super actually changes major events in the DB timeline in order to try dick punch our childhoods. One of the iconic events of DBZ is when Freeza tries to wipe out the Saiyans in a cowardly and despicable effort to stop a prophesy from coming true, and ultimately creates a self-fulfilling prophesy that leads to his just desserts. Super tells us that the comic relief character Beerus ordered Freeza to destroy the Saiyans...because King Vegeta annoyed him. WHAT!? They changed an absolutely iconic plot point from being satisfying and having poetic justice to simply being stupid! That kind of shit is simply inexcusable.
Holy shit does the art in DB Super suck! It looks FAR worse than DBGT back in the 1990s. Why with a vastly superior budget does it look this bad?!! DBZ may look primitive at times by 2015 standards, but it actually looked very acceptable for its own time period in the early 1990s. There were better looking anime to be sure, but DBZ certainly was never embarrassingly behind the average quality of its contemporaries like Sailor Moon, Yu Yu Hakusho, or Hokuto no Ken. DB Super is easily the 2nd worst looking anime I've seen in 2015 with only Vampire Holmes defeating it in that category! There are anime from the 1990s like Trigun and Cowboy Bebop that not only look AMAZING compared to fucking DB Super when it comes to animation cels, but even in terms of fluidity and frame rate. The terrible drawing, low frame rate, and choppy animation combined with the CGI and Cel Shading in DB Super make it look SO bad that I'm going to start a petition to strip Toei of the rights to Dragonball and hand it over to fucking Studio ARMS. Even those jackoffs could do better than this!
The opening, ending, and background music are quite mediocre and a vast decrease in quality compared to DBZ or DBZ Kai. The Japanese audio voice acting for DBZ has always been somewhat controversial due to the decision to keep Goku's voice actress well beyond the point where it made sense for her to voice the character. Middle aged women often voice young children in animation around the world, but old women voicing middle aged men can sound a little silly. Even so, Masako Nozawa was such a talented voice actress that she could basically pull it off and we could willingly suspend our disbelief. Now she is in her late 70s and despite her best efforts is simply no longer able to scream like she once could and her voice has gotten even higher. Keeping her as Goku no longer seems like an act of respect, but more like some kind of cruel joke on both her and the audience! Yet she is FAR from the worst voice actor in DB Super. North Kai's voice actor has managed to take "not giving a FUCK" to an entirely new level! Even native Japanese speakers have no idea what the hell he is saying half the time. Of course I don't blame the actor himself because he is 89 years old and I'm pretty damn sure he is being kept in the voice booth against his will in some malicious act of senior citizen abuse! At this point, I think his mumbles and totally flat delivery are actually a cry for help in the hopes that someone will break into the sound studio and free him from his prison!
Dragon Ball is Dead! Dragon Ball shall remain dead, and Dragon Ball Super killed it!
Read the review before hating on this because you're fanboying on the series.
Ever felt the moment when someone says a terrible joke and there's an awkward silence for like 10-20 seconds. Well it's the same but for 20 minutes. I lost 80 minutes of my life watching this and I will never get them back so.. Akira, Toei Animation, thank you for confirming the thought I had since a long time. The Dragon Ball Series would not have been popular if it came out around the 2010s.
Story (1) : Well, it's pretty simple. Some bad guy shows up, and they fight.
That's it, that's the whole
point of the story.
Art (5) : Looks like Toei is still in the 90s. I'ts not that bad but except the high definition, I don't see any improvement since the last episodes of DBZ and Dragon Ball Super.
It looks like an upscaled version.
Sound (3) : This is probably the most disturbing thing in this anime. Goku is still voiced by the same voice actress. He's like 35 and still sounds like a 10 year old kid. North Kaio's voice is terrible. At least the OST and OP are good.
Character (2) : They are the same, nothing special. Ah yes, some "new" characters.. Such as Black Goku which... has the same design as.. Goku.. Goten.. Thales.. How original..
Enjoyment (1) : Ever felt the moment when someone says a terrible joke and there's an awkward silence for like 10-20 seconds. Well it's the same but for 20 minutes. Is it worse that Dragon Ball GT ? Yes. Yes it is.
The humor is terrible, Toei, once again, stayed in the 90s. It would make laugh (or at least smile) a 8 year old kid. I mean come on.. Improve a little.. Nothing changed at all. The shonen genre has changed since the last episode of DBZ but Toriyama and Toei didn't realize that apparently.
Or they didn't change anything to please the diehard fanboys.. In that case, good job, well done.. If you're not a diehard fanboy, don't waste your time on this.
I've been asking this for years on end, and I'll keep saying it until Toei Animation et al actually answers the question: Did the world really need another Dragon Ball sequel? Haven't we learned from the sheer clusterfuck that was GT that nothing good could EVER come of a TV sequel to a horrendously overextended franchise that for all intents and purposes, should've stayed in the 1990s? "But this time, it's canon!" So what if it's canon? It still sucks, and nothing you say can ever convince me or any rational person otherwise.
Dragon Ball GT was definitely terrible, but at least it was trying to
tread new ground with the Black Star Dragon Ball, Baby, and Shadow Dragon sagas. Where it ultimately went wrong was the fact that it put WAY too much emphasis on Goku to the point where literally anyone who ISN'T Goku was rendered effectively irrelevant (which is technically a side effect of the Majin Buu saga from Z). Super's first, and greatest folly is the fact that it doesn't even bother treading new ground! This is literally a TV series adaptation of Battle of the Gods and Resurrection F. Why the FUCK should we bother sitting through Super when we could literally just watch those two movies and have way more fun doing so? Don't even get me started on all the retcons made to existing DBZ canon which effectively ruin iconic moments of the series.
The pacing is absolutely appalling, to say the least. It took five episodes to adapt the first two chapters of the Super manga (which isn't much better than the anime to be brutally honest), and what pray tell did the wise guys at Toei decide to do with those 5 episodes? If you were expecting them to give us something worthwhile, forget about it! Those 5 episodes were spent on shitty comedy and some bullshit filler about Goku being some kind of farmer. Remember: this is a SEQUEL to the very series that had an entire arc dedicated to a primordial beast that managed to kill off the entire human race without blowing up the Earth and it decides to start us off with our hero living out Kal-El's dream of being a farmer. Yeah... no.
Say what you will about GT, but at least GT had the decency to start us off with Goku training Uub on Kami's Lookout so we know for a fact that what we're in for bears *some* resemblance to its predecessor. Super from the get-go doesn't even feel like Dragon Ball whatsoever, even when Goku enters the frame and Vegeta's gone about scowling at everyone whilst stupid shit happens around him for the umpteenth time in a row. Yeah, if the absolutely appalling pacing and the fact that this series is a rehash of two movies wasn't the worst thing about it, the constant repetition of shit we've seen countless times over the course of Dragon Ball AND Z would definitely have to take the cake. Well, if you want to exclude the absolutely appalling production values.
Toei Animation is FAR from the pinnacle of animation quality but at this point in time, it's like Toei Animation just didn't care anymore about what they gave us because they knew that the diehard DBZ fans will end up eating this up and loving the shit out of it because it's Dragon Ball. Let's play a little drinking game: every time that you see something off model, take a shot of whiskey. I guarantee that you'll die of alcohol poisoning before you can finish the first episode, because the animation is THAT bad. You could give this show to Gonzo, and they could dish out a show that would not only look significantly better but would also have a million times more plot than this abomination of a show currently has. I would speak about the OST and the Japanese track, but who am I kidding? Everything about this show is terrible, and that includes the audio department without saying.
There is no "at best," when discussing Dragon Ball Super. Absolutely everything about this show is terrible and a waste of time. While I can think of several other programmes that are far worse than Super objectively, Super is the Bakemonogatari of Toei Animation, in that this show exemplifies all of the absolute worst traits that Toei has to offer: shitty animation quality, long-running shows that never end, and an incessant need to attempt cashing in on the nostalgia of pathetic otakus that can't let go of a Japanese Saturday morning cartoon that ended over 20 years ago. If there's one saving grace Super has, it's that supposedly brand-new arc that comes after they adapt Resurrection F and even then, I'm willing to bet it'll turn out to be yet another rehash of virtually every single quest to find the motherfucking Dragon Balls that ever happened over the course of Dragon Ball and Z. Let's just hope that Goku and Vegeta make a wish to end their suffering or that they wish for Toei Animation to stop coming up with shitty cash-grabs because this is just plain pathetic.
Anyway, that's all for now. Feedback's always welcome and with that, I'm out. Peace :)
I don't know how I managed to make it this far through the series. 5 episodes of HELL shat onto my computer screen and believe me when I say watching it felt a lot longer than it was.
To start off with the story is truly absurd and that's saying something from someone who thought Dragon Ball and the majority of Dragon Ball Z were pretty good. It's especially bad when it's the second time they've tried to shovel this to us, Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods was awful in it's own right, and now instead of 2 hours of crap I've sat through at
least that much and there's still more to go.
The art is atrocious at SEVERAL points, and I can almost tell that there are going to be points to where it gets worse, cause if it's this bad now, imagine how bad it's going to be when the artists get even more fed up with the series, and don't even get me started on how appalling it is that they shanked us by showing us great art on the posters, and previews.
I can't complain about the sound too much, I will say that it has been overused, and I wish they would come up with some new sound effects and such cause they're getting a little dull.
The characters.... dear god the characters.... I really need to separate this into 2 parts both are awful, but they both deserve to be covered.... the first is the voice acting. It really shows through that these voice actors are tired of this, and not just some of them every voice over sounded bland, unexciting, and most of all BORING. The second is the script, and this is the most important to me I can overlook bad voice acting, but I refuse to overlook horrendous writing like this, since the beginning Goku has been far from the smartest character, but comparing him from back then to now you would think he's lost every fight he's been in and put on the short bus because of his brains being knocked out he's so stupid, and it's not just him it really is like every character in the franchise has had a lobotomy.
It's fortunate for this series that MAL doesn't allow for a negative score in anything because if it were possible I would put my enjoyment of this series at a -10 rather than 1. This series is dreadful, and I would say the only person that would like this is in a coma but that would be insulting to coma patients.
Overall score 1/10 this could have been so much better, and could've revitalized a series and continued to make it great, and instead they hacked a horrible movie to pieces, threw on some horrible animation and voice acting, scripted some of the dumbest characters, and sucked anything enjoyable out.
I was hyped when I heard that there would be a new Dragon Ball movie back in 2013. The anticipation to get tickets to the showing of Battle of Gods was crazy and the movie did not disappoint. The fluid animation and mix of action and comedy that people were calling a Dragon Ball - Dragon Ball Z hybrid left a very nice impression. When they announced Resurrection F, the hype train carried over full capacity. And again, the movie left a very nice impression, albeit not as strong due to the weak ending, but that's a point for another discussion.
I had been hoping that
the success of these two movies would inspire a full anime series, and by gosh my hopes were indeed not misplaced. However, at the time I should have known better.
Enter Dragon Ball Super, Toei's latest endeavor into further cementing why they are the worst anime studio of all time. Never in my life have I seen a more BLATANT cashgrab attempt than through this series. The first two arcs were just drawn out versions of the events that took place during the movies. Many believed that this would allow the plots of the two movies to be more fleshed out and pragmatic but they couldn't be more wrong, I mean this is the studio that turned a 10/10 manga in One Piece into a steaming pile of dog shit. The pacing and animation were inconsistent and at times, god awful. The writing was has always been a weak point for Dragon Ball so nothing new here in Super. The only redeeming qualities I found were the cast and the comedy, but you can only go so far with banter and antics in a partly action battle shounen, much less the sequel of Dragon Ball Z.
The premise of the next arc was quite interesting. It provided a solid extension and insight as to how exactly everything worked in the Dragon Ball universe and where everyone stood in terms of the grand order of things. This again was hampered by Toei's signature inconsistent animating and poor pacing. Overall all though, notsobad.
All of the good impressions as to the direction of this anime was heading was immediately smashed once the next arc started to pan out. The premise, at first, was very promising with the return of future Trunks, and the enemy this time being a little bit more than your typical DB monster/alien villain however things had started to go south very quickly. I found myself watching one empty episode after the last every week. Pointless fights, ridiculously inconsistent power scaling, a plot riddled with more holes than H&M jeans, and absolutely no direction in the directing. It was as if the animators weren't given a script at all and were just animating whatever they wanted and slapped it together. Suffice to say, I did not enjoy it at all. I was waiting for things to pick up but they never seemed to do so. This week's episode 67 was the final nail in the coffin. I can say with certainty that it was the worst conclusion to a story arc that I have ever seen out of any source of media or entertainment, anime or otherwise. It has thoroughly convinced me that this show has become a parody of itself. There is no other way I can simply fathom them putting out such an abomination into the world with their names included in the end credits, not even as an attempt at making a quick profit.
As a fan of Dragon Ball I am simply ashamed. This was indeed an even worse follow up than GT, and it makes me fear for what is to come in the future for this show. I am praying that someone in that office wakes up and realizes how much damage they are doing to this series.
UPDATED 12.7.15. SINCE THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FREIZA SAGA I HAVE CHANGED THE SCORE OF THE STORY TO 10. NO SPOILERS HERE, JUST KNOW THAT WHAT THEY ARE DOING WITH THE OPENING OF THIS ARC COULD MAKE IT IN TO ONE OF THE BEST STORIES IN THE DRAGON BALL UNIVERSE (in my opinion).
So the show has had a fair few episodes now, so its a decent time to give it a review. I think everyone reveiwng the show after 3 episodes was a bit unfair because it hadnt had a chance to get going.
A little back story; I am a massive DB fan,
for me its my favourite series ever. I think even GT had its moments.
This means I had huge expectiations for this show, especially after feeling dissapointed with Battle of the Gods. The first few episodes I thought were fantastic, but then as they retell the Beerus story, I thought it dropped to a below par story telilng. I only powered through because I was holding out hope it would pic up, and I am so glad I did. The last few episodes of the Beerus battle, and the following episodes are all really enjoyable, and have that feeilng of warmth and characterful light entertainment remenicent of the original DB series. The episodes dont feel like filler, as was typical with most the between arc DBZ episodes. Its great to see more of the characters outside of facing off against relentless swarms of enemies.
The animation is janky, but it doesnt take away from show, for me the wacky nature of the show and how Akira Toriyama originally intended the story to be is represented through the animation style.
For the hardcore DBZ fans (not just the people into the fights) I think its a top rank, must watch.
For everyone else this is a really enjoyable show once it gets going, and shouldnt be over looked.
After being hyped for a while I caught up with the anime today, and decided to write a review because...why not. Being a hardcore DB fan in the past, I was really excited to get a canon continuation of DBZ, but...
The story gets a 2 because the anime is so far a rehash of the two movies that came out, Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F. The only difference is the awful pacing this time. You're better off watching both movies and skipping what I reckon will be 30 episodes of the anime. The storylines themselves aren't anything to write home about either.
speaking of DBZ, one can't help but bring up powerlevels. There're a lot of inconsistencies here. One example, one of Friezan's new henchmen is supposed to be stronger than the old Ginyu force (confirmed with a scouter), which means that even Goten should be able to wreck him without any effort, let alone Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, or freaking Gohan.
Yet he proceeds to solo EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM without any effort at the same time. Seriously? Piccolo in the original DBZ was fighting Frieza's second form to a stalemate and he's gotten a lot more powerful than that by Cell Saga, going toe to toe with 17, and first form Cell, and then even more powerful in the Buu Saga. Getting wrecked by a guy at Ginyu's level or so (hell, or even double, triple, quadruple that) was ridiculous to watch. Facepalm.
Art gets a 3 because it's bad. Scenes which were copied from the movies look spectacular (since the movies are high quality) but everything else looks absolutely terrible, and for no reason at all. TOEI has the budget, they're simply lazy it seems. Anyone who's used to the awesome, detailed, perfectly proportioned character models from DBZ which could be used as wallpapers, will notice the terrible drawings right away. Couldn't help but getting bothered by it and asking why.
Sound gets a 3. DB is probably the only anime which is better in english DUB than SUB, but I watched the SUB nonetheless. The Goku-granny needs to go. Sure, nostalgia goggles and whatnot...but it's just not right. Goku being as old as he is...it's just not right when he sounds like a kid or a woman. Better stick with the ENG DUB.
The openings and endings, although catchy, are a total mismatch for the series. I'd rather have badly remixed versions of the old openings than this. The OST in the anime is practically nonexistant. I noticed only a couple of musical pieces that play here and there, easily forgettable. They contribute nothing to the excitement of the anime.
Characters get a 5. Goku is pretty much the same, Vegeta is a lot less hostile than before, Whis is a joke and plot device, but the worst thing about the anime has got to be Beerus. I actually liked Beerus in the movies. Sure, he had his idiotic and playful side, but it was also pretty obvious that he was somebody who KNEW STUFF, somebody who was above our heroes in terms of knowledge and wisdom, befitting of his age.
But this Beerus in the anime acts like a spoiled ass for absolutely no reason at all. Sure, that makes him a tad scarier, knowing you can't reason with him, but after a certain point, all that gets thrown out the window in a moment's notice, and he turns a companion? That's bad. Facepalm.
Moving into the Frieza part of the anime, Frieza is satisfying, truly evil, angry and really crazy. He's awesome, but in true DBZ fashion, characters who are pissed off and have sworn to kill each other, stop in the middle of the battle in order to talk about who fights whom first, and tell each other to wait for power ups/transformations.
Really??? That might be alright in Beerus' case, since he wanted to fight a strong opponent,and was actively searching for one, and maybe for Frieza in the past who was simply arrogant coz he had never lost a fight, but THIS Frieza? One moment he's fuming with anger about everything he went through in HELL, then he's torturing someone for sadistic pleasure until his nemesis arrives, and when said nemesis does arrive, he's chitchatting with him over pointless stuff. The one guy whom he'll do ANYTHING TO SEE DEAD FOREVER. Ridiculous. Facepalm.
All in all this is a dreadful series and less enjoyable than anything that came before it. Watch the Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F movies, and skip this anime altogether. Not really worth it. At least not yet. Maybe once they're done with rehashing the movies...
im writing this review when only 63 episodes are out but i hope it will still be relevant in the future so here we go
im a big anime fan and dragon ball z is one of my favorites, but dragon ball super is on a different time, with a different plot and much better animation so lets start
again, im only writing this when 63 episodes came out, but the future trunks arc is pretty great, its nice to see all the old characters that i love fighting again, but i gave it an 8 because of the first two arcs which were just awful, wasting
my time with watching the same thing i watched in Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F was just stupid, even ignoring that, the future trunks arc has a pattern that im getting sick of, the fact that they return to the past each time they lose is just... shameful, not to mention that trunks super saiyan 2 is battling with the same fighting powers as super saiyan blue, but other then that its great, the whole battling scenes are very well animated, the jokes are pretty good too.. (GodTuber... im still laughing..) the arc of the battle between universe 7 warriors and universe 6 was well made as well, overall i really liked the storylines other then the first 2
as i mentioned its pretty awesome to see all the old characters and the old attacks and the old transformations with 2016 animation, its really well made
i was never really sure what to put in the "Sound" section but if they are referring to the opening i really like it and the endings are pretty nice too but.. its a point of taste so... i dont know
well i love Goku, Vegeta, Bulma, Trunks,Goten, Gohan, Chi-chi and all the rest, really i cant really add much since im assuming you do know at least a little bit but...
Goku- Goku is a simple character, he always was, he wants to battle for fun, he almost never gets serious in a battle but when he does he is awesome, he isnt much of a good parent and no matter how much i say here i cant say how much i love this guy
Vegeta- the prince of saiyans, the most prideful character you will ever see, always looking to beat Goku to prove that he is the strongest
well these are pretty much the main ones (in my opinion)
but bulma's sharp mind, chi-chi's motherly love, gohan's disappointing future, Beerus and Whis's love of food and Goten and Trunks's friendship make nice additions
overall i really enjoy this show, im repeating myself but seeing all the old characters fight again is really nice
i dont have much to add but i highly recommend you watch this anime (if you already saw Dragon Ball Z) i truly dont understand how the top review (in this time) with over 150 people who found it helpful is some guy who only watched 3 episodes and assumes what will happen in the anime (totally wrong by the way)
wow im really bad at making reviews, hope i helped whoever really read this
Review in English and Spanish/Reseña en ingles y español.
This will be until the completion of the Trunks arc of the future.
Let's go in parts, EVERYTHING DBS does is wrong.
They started adapting the 2 movies, although supposedly it was to correct mistakes, but in both they put events like that of Tagoma (I think that's what it was called), leaving him alive, with a pseudo motivation so that later Ginyu will arrive and steal the body and equal Ginyu Dies, making all this irrelevant, there were scenes in the film that lasted with 5 minutes and the series extended them to 2 chapters, being that 1
film can be summarized in up to 4 chapters.
The bow of the tournament seemed to me the worst of all, leaving aside that you do a tournament with 2 guys who have the power of a god, wasted all the others, Piccolo valued cock with a strategy stupid, being that in Z type If he thought well, Gohan had said that he would train and here he does not appear, Majin Buu, bone, be extremely strong and leave with a nonsense that can not enter because he can not write ... Equal Vegeta and Goku beat everyone, 5 vs 5 something very strange or unnecessary, then this Frost, conveniently showed us that he is a good subject and such nonsense, being that in the previous fight did not do the same with Botamo, but hey, then it turns out he is bad and I do not know what . Hit, the kind of 1000-year-old who can stop time, who overcomes the power of Goku and Vegeta, being both have the power of the gods (and included in a higher phase), the god level is so mediocre that it can be reached And overcome by anyone? And worst of all, the Kaioken * 10, with that mother should have killed Hit by just touching it, but no, and even loses ... Then comes the twist comic plot with Monaka and Bills also fulfilling the desire of Champa, Making the whole saga a nonsense.
In the saga of black the most salient are that they went all over the ass with powers, like Black saying that because he has the body of a Saiyan he gets stronger every time he fights, but Genkai saiyan works only when they hurt you Gravity and you recover and not of cina you will raise the power of a ssj1 to that of a ssjdssj, Trunks and its deus ex machina supreme, first holding battles with Black and Zamasu, being that both gave to a pump to Goku and Vegeta in mode Blue, then acquiring an aura similar to that of the gods because I do not know, his sword resists a chingo (Although of course, in Z his sword could cut Freezer, the most powerful race at the time, but not 2 humans with part Robotic), it is obvious that Vegetto was just to attract more publicity and it's okay, I would not care so much if they did not leave the pothara union as worthy dick as the dance, all that was a Plot Device for which Trunks (which inexplicably Said that he would defeat Zamasu, being that Vegetto at that moment was giving him a slap), then generates that "Genkidama" with energy of the earth and a population fucking REDUCED (With energy of Goku and Vegetas done shit and in base mode), Being that to kill Buu was necessary a Genkidama universal and equal Buu resisted, it does not make sense that Zamasu to die so easy, but GOD EX MACHINA + GARY STU = Trunks. Many say that humans guided their energy and hope to Trunks and so they did not raise their hands, well, when they learned to master / control their Ki? One very important thing would be that Vegetto in ssjdssj should destroy the earth with the shock wave in one fell swoop, is a fucking OP character, but when he launches the Final Kamehameha the UNIVERSE should have been worth dick, but nothing happens to the earth. Previously they made the conveniences subtle, but now everyone noticed (Although good, 80% of fans complain about the duration of the merger, this being the least important compared to all other inconsistencies in the chapter). Trunks defeated Cell and the Androids "Yes, because I TRAIN quite and its power was not so far from an inperfecto cell or the androids. It might be good that Trunks will defeat Zamasu but not with something so forced.
This saga in specific was to attract more public, I know several people who did not see DBS but started to see this saga, Akira should be counting his money while laughing at his fans.
Dbz also had very stupid mistakes, mainly in the saga of the androids and cell, but they were more subtle, DBS is so bad that even the PLEBS can notice that everything is wrong.
Solo reseñaré hasta la finalizacion del arco de Black.
Vayamos por partes porque todo en Dbs es un error.
Dbs inicio con rehacer las peliculas, supuestamente para corregir fallos, pero en ambas ponen sucesos como lo e Tagoma (creo que así se llamaba), dejándolo vivo, con una pseudo motivación para que luego llegará Ginyu y se robara el cuerpo e igual Ginyu muere, haciendo todo esto irrelevante, habia escenas en la película que duraba con 5 minutos y la serie los alargo hasta a 2 capítulos, siendo que 1 película se puede resumir hasta en 4 capítulos.
El arco del torneo me parecía el peor de todos, dejando de lado que hagas un torneo con 2 tipos que tienen el poder de un dios, desaprovecharon a todos los demás, Piccolo valiendo verga con una estrategia bien pendeja, siendo que en Z el tipo si pensaba bien, Gohan había dicho que entrenaría y aquí ni aparece, Majin Buu, osea, pinche ser extremadamente fuerte y salen con una tontería de que no puede entrar porque no sabe escribir... Igual Vegeta y Goku vencen a todos, haciendo el 5 vs 5 algo muy extraño o innecesario, luego esta Frost, convenientemente nos mostraron que es un buen sujeto y esas tonterías, siendo que en la pelea anterior no hicieron lo mismo con Botamo, pero bueno, luego resulta que es malo y no sé qué. Hit, el tipo de 1000 años que puede detener el tiempo, que supera el poder de Goku y Vegeta, siendo que ambos tienen el poder de los dioses (e inclusos en una fase superior), el nivel dios es tan mediocre que puede ser alcanzado y superado por cualquiera? Y lo peor de todo, el Kaioken*10, con esa madre debería de haber matado a Hit con solo tocarlo, pero no, e incluso pierde... Luego llega el plot twist comico con Monaka y a Bills cumpliendo igualmente el deseo de Champa, haciendo a toda la saga con un DESPROPOSITO.
En la saga de black lo mas resaltable son que se pasaron todo por el culo con los poderes, como Black diciendo que porque tiene el cuerpo de una Saiyan se hace mas fuerte cada vez que pelea, pero el Genkai saiyan funciona solo cuando te hieren de gravedad y te recuperas y ni de coña te subira el poder de un ssj1 a el de un ssjdssj, Trunks y sus deus ex machina supremos, primero sosteniendo batallas con Black y Zamasu, siendo que ambos le dieron una putiza a Goku y Vegeta en modo azul, luego adquiriendo un aura similar a la de los dioses porque Yo No Sé, su espada resiste un chingo (Aunque claro, en Z su espada podía cortar a Freezer, la raza mas poderosa en su momento, pero no a 2 humanos con parte roboticas), es obvio que lo de Vegetto fue solo para atraer mas publico y esta bien, no me importaría tanto si no dejaran a la unión pothara tan vale verga como la danza, todo eso fue un Plot Device para que Trunks (El cual inexplicablemente dijo que derrotaría a Zamasu, siendo que Vegetto en esos momentos le estaba dando una putiza), luego genera esa "Genkidama" con energía de la tierra y una poblacion jodidamente REDUCIDA (Con energía de Goku y Vegetas hechos mierda y en modo base), siendo que para matar a Buu fue necesaria una Genkidama universal e igual Buu se resistió, no tiene sentido que Zamasu muera tan facil, peeeeeeeero DEUS EX MACHINA+GARY STU=Trunks. Muchos dicen que los humanos guiaron su energía y esperanza hacia Trunks y por eso no levantaron sus manos, bien, cuando aprendieron a dominar/controlar su Ki? Una cosa muy importante seria que Vegetto en ssjdssj debería de destruir la tierra con la onda expansiva de un solo golpe, es un personaje jodidamente OP, pero cuando lanza el Final Kamehameha el UNIVERSO debió valer verga, pero a la tierra no le pasa nada... Anteriormente hacían las conveniencias medio sutiles, pero ahora todos lo notaron (Aunque bueno, el 80% de los fans se quejan de la duración de la fusión, siendo esto lo menos importante a comparación con todas las demás incoherencias del capitulo) "El futuro debe ser arreglado por alguien de ese futuro, por eso Trunks derroto a Cell y a los Androides" Si, porque ENTRENO bastante y su poder no estaba tan alejado de un cell inperfecto o los androides. Pudo ser bueno que Trunks derrotará a Zamasu pero no con algo tan forzado.
Esta saga en especifico fue para atraer a mas publico, aunque todo lo que trajo son PLEBS y elitistas a los que les dan un muy buen material para echarle mierda.
Honestly, I wanted to love this series to a point of fanboyism but many things come up short. While I still do love it, it did have a lot of issues that the series itself wasn't at fault for. What I mean is, Toei. Toei underestimated how much people love Dragon Ball, and I'll get into that as the review goes on.
While Super is a continuation of Dragon Ball Z, it does not take place after the last episode as Pan is not born as of the first episode. The first two arcs are basically Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F' movies with subtle differences.
Things pick up with the Universe 6 saga and the hype truly lives by the time Future Trunks pops in. All in all, after the first two arcs, you'll be greeted with a fun story that touches on the whimsy of the original Dragon Ball far more than GT ever did. Also the return of Kaioken is something fans like me love. (patching up plot holes from DBZ and causing their own is a thing so if you're a fan of that, that's cool)
Let's not sugarcoat it...the first two sagas had complete poop art. We've all seen it and most of us have been upset about it. The reason for this isn't because there's no time to make each episode, but the fact Toei didn't understand how big Dragon Ball was and assigned a lot of newbies in the industry to what is probably their biggest franchise. The animation team doesn't use the same techniques as their Z predecessors so the way they handle high speed animation is hit or miss. As of episode 66, I think the animation has nearly become on par with DBZ.
Let me start with this, I will never skip the OP because it is that enjoyable. While the sound track has some fun tunes playing, new songs don't really come in until another saga begins. When it comes to the voice over, the only performance that's jarring to me is King Kai. Joji Yanami, from my understanding, got sick and could no longer voice King Kai due to his slow recovery and older age. Currently the role has been taken over by Naoki Tatsuta, the voice of Oolong.
Surprisingly enough, there is a fair amount of character development. Vegeta in particular has come a long way from the Saiyan Saga. He is now a loving father and husband, who is A LOT less stubborn than used to be. While he is still trying to be better than Goku, he's a lot more accepting of him as a friendly rival. Gohan is also of particular interest because he's wanting to be a fighter again but much hasn't been done with him yet in the anime.
As the episodes go on, the series keeps getting better and better, my only real complaint is that the pacing is all over the place and recently I feel that things are just going by too fast. It's a very fun series that actually keeps me interested no matter the flaws.
Still rough around the edges but it brings back the spirit of Dragon Ball! Ignore those first 5 episodes and you'll be fine.
I can definitely say that this is the worst anime I've ever seen.
-The characters were all (yes, ALL OF THEM) flanderized;
-The story is stupid as hell.
-There are no developments
-The are no connections between the sagas. If you exclude ANY of them, it will doens't change anything;
-The anime tries tu use fanservice every singles time, but they doesn't make any sense. They grew up Trunks' hair only to show the "Super Trunks" transfomation with the exactly same design as before (when he actually had a long hair);
-Goku and Vegeta are not heroes anymore. They've never protected the universe, never won a villain;
-There's no tension, no sense
of danger. Jokes are present all the time, even in the middle of the battles or DEATHS;
-Trunks and Freeza's return is completely pointless. It just ruined the characters (since Trunks became a big crying baby, with 30+ years old but with the same appearance as 17 (again, non-sense fanservice));
-The villains there's no motivation. They've tried to make something complex with Goku Black/Zamasu, but they abandoned it in the middle of the saga;
-The powerscale went to hell. Nothing makes sense. Goku Black Pink form is strongest than Goku Blue, which is strongest than any other transformation, but Trunks ssj2 can still beat the enemy;
-It's the only DB production which used the "friendship power" as a horrible deus ex-machina;
-Goku became an idiot, he can't even recognize ki anymore. Vegeta dances for Bills and became a tsundere. Future Trunks became a crying babe, he doesn't know how to do anything by himself. Goten e Trunks are 14 years old, but they look younger than Z (with 7). Gohan became the weakest guy of the show, never won one battle;
-The battles are fast, censored, you can't feel the punches, there's no impact;
-The animation is horrible. I think only Berserk 2016 can be worse;
-The direction is completely terrible. Nothing is in the right place. You can't even recognize if it's a serious scene or if it's a joke. The use of the BGMs is pathetc. The angles of the camera, very poor. There's no sense of storytelling. Nothing.
Dragonball super is among the worst animes I have ever seen. I strongly recommend you to not even start watching this crap. I honestly think that this show slowly ruins the reputation of Dragonball. In the following I will present you my reasons why I absoulte hate this show.
The first two arcs of this anime are nothing else than retellings of the Battle of Gods and Fukatsu no F movies. If you have seen the movies the roughly first 30 episodes are completely pointless. On top of that they dragged the events out for the worse. Therefore the pacing in the first two arcs
is just horrible. (1/10)
The Universe 6 arc is a little bit better but still nothing special and complete trash in comparison to the Tournaments we had back in the Original Dragonball. It's obvious that the creators didn't put much thought in the designs of the Universe 6 participants. The fights are mostly uninteresting and lack tension. (3/10)
The Black Goku arc started out promising at first but in the end it was just as bad as the previous arcs. Especially the ending is full of aspulls and it has one of the worst conclusion to an arc I have ever seen. (3/10)
Another thing that really bothers me is that you really can't tell anymore how strong a character is, it all just makes no sense anymore. I know that DBZ to an extent especially in the Buu saga suffered from this problem as well, but in Super it's just gotten completely out of hand.
All in all the story lacks tension and for the majority of it it's uninteresting and the writing is just horrible considering the amounts of asspuls throughout of it. Sure there were some episodes that were individually good but as a whole every arc was pretty bad.
The art is really just pathetic. Just from that you can tell the creators don't give a fuck about this series. We live in 2017 and this trash is what they give us. Even compared to Dragonball and Dragonball Z it sucks bad and they were released more than 20 years ago.
The sound is nothing special, pretty average. But still a huge step down from Db and Dbz which had amazing soundtrack.
Honeslty this is by far the worst aspect of the show. Every character has become a parody of themselves. Almost none of the characters acts the way they should. Videl has pretty much lost all of her character traits. In fact now in Super you could replace her with any standard anime girlfriend and it wouldn't even matter. Chichi bitches in every scene she is shown. With Gohan they exaggerated it with this whole "Not a fighter" trait.
But by far the most damage has been done to Vegeta and especially to our main character Son Goku. Even though in the Buu saga Vegeta admitted that Goku is the Number 1, now he just behaves the way he did before. After the Buu saga Vegeta became friends with Goku and you could see he matured. It's like he just regressed as a character. Goku on the other hand has become a complete retard, infact even his kid self wasn't this much of an idiot. In Z you could see that Goku matured. Even though he loved fighting there were other things as well he cared for like the well being of his family and friends. He was selfish in Z as well but he was always aware of it and took responsibility when he fucked up. In super on the other hand they took his retarded and selfish side and leveled them up to new heights. He really just became a parody of himself and it hurts since they are slowly ruining a character I always loved.
Characters like Gohan, Piccolo, Yamacha, Tenshinhan etc barely get any screen time anymore. To be honest the only characters I think they didn't ruin is Bulma and maybe Goten and kid Trunks.
Because of all these flaws this show has I could barely enjoy it. I will be honest some episodes in between will be enjoyable if you turn off your brain, but most of the time even this won't help.
As I said before I recommend you to just avoid this terrible excuse of a show. Even Dragonball GT as bad as it was, is good compared to this shit. If it woudn't be for the name Dragonball in the title, it would never become as popular as it is today. The characters, the story, the art just everything about this anime sucks and it's clear that the only purpose of this show is to make some fast money because people will watch it anyway no matter how bad it is since it's Dragonball.