Look I think I understand what is wrong with the people giving bad reviews to this brilliant anime, they are being too..Kantian...let me explain.
I am not a big anime fan in general, yet I grew up watching and reading Dragon Ball and let me tell you a secret I believe we all should keep in mind: the beauty of Dragon Ball is its diversity of registry, ranging between comedy, romance, horror, drama...and whatever else you may think of.
Each character in Dragon Ball is endowed with affinity towards a specific element...BUT each character also has some room to expand and switch between his less dominant traits.
Even Yajirobē had its dramatic moments, and Piccolo had its comedic ones.
The same is true for the whole chapters, yes Dragon Ball Z has a more mature and dramatic tone than the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT is surely much more of a commercial product which targets younger audiences...BUT these are all generalizations and they can only grasp a portion of what each of the chapter actually amounts to.
Dragon Ball Super is a fresh, inspired look into Goku's world, offering beautiful artworks and some brilliant story-telling, the right combination of comedy relief and thundering action. The comic scenes with King Kai at the beginning are just the treat, Beerus and Whis turn out to be absolute comic geniuses on par with mythological Master Roshi in the original Dragon Ball or Old Kai in Dragon Ball Z. The battle sequences between Goku and Beerus in deep space are unprecedented and IMO they set a milestone for the whole saga in awesomeness.
I think that much a better work could and should have been done with the characters of Gohan, Chichi, Krilin, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo&Co, it seems that Beerus, Whis, Goku&Vegeta, Bulma got a first-class script while the rest of the family is stuck with cliché and predictable/boring dialogue.
About Vegeta, I think he has the potential to become the most loved character in the series, he is smart, strong, has great timing in its lines and he is (almost) always at the right place at the right time story-wise.
I cannot but highly recommend this Dragon Ball Super who stole my heart and brought me back almost 20 years* and wish you to have as much fun as I had!
Dragon ball Super is no doubt a very polarising and divisive show
Being A big fan of the franchise I'm terribly disappointed with Super
as a Whole by how unprepared and downgraded it feels throughout.
The original provided so many great stuff as well as some issues but what is really baffling is the behind the scene problems in regards to Toei Animation and the writers generating so much revenue to make this show and not giving us one arc to actually satisfy me from beginning to end and as a fan its almost insulting to me and many of the dragonball core fanbase.
This review will
be VERY extensive as I have a LOT to say that will be SPOILER HEAVY so warning if you don't like spoilers.
I will go in depth with my overall thoughts about Dragon ball Super taking in some account the manga as well.
NOTE I would not suggest attempting to watch this series unless you have prior knowledge to the history regarding the previous series Dragon ball, Dragon ball Z/Kai or even the dragonball manga.
If there are certain points that readers agree or disagree with let me know but do take some time to actually thoroughly read through in depth.
STORY - 3
I like to start by talking about what i consider to be easily the WORST aspect of this series, The Pre production, The Execution and the Writing in general is a MAJOR downgrade compared to the previous series that I feel most can agree with me ON.
Yeah Sure there are a number of decent stuff to mention in regards to the story here whether it'd be seeing fun interactions with the same colorful cast of characters, Seeing some cool older techniques in action such as the Kaioken, Solar Flare, The Multi form, Destructo Disc, instant transmission, Masenko, Final Flash, Android Barrier, kamehameha or the evil containment wave of the Mafuba, Alongside Having some good action and nice moments with some standard comedy combine with these elements of Slice of life with some of the characters that are displayed in different parts of the show which are mostly filler but as I've mentioned in my previous Dbz Kai review they do well in adding more look into the characters in their own scenarios.
I feel in my opinion they are usually placed in the right sort of areas of the show and can be entertaining in its own way which in all honesty should of been more of that formula throughout Instead of as to what the main arcs in the show end up with eventually,
DBS does do a good job in paying homage to some classic nostalgic moments from Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z through a lot of scenes and flashbacks including technique recreations that We fans have lived through our experience as we watched Dragon Ball Super deliver these moments though however some vary in terms of quality.
what I thought was an Interesting addition was having this power tier within the dragon ball lore and world building that establishes more in the story,
A power tier for a group of characters which i like to call The God tier, Of course gods are nothing new since we have had a lot introduce through the course of this franchise however this concept although nothing new does add a lot in terms of lore and world building which is part of the new power scaling of the story itself, So to give you an example you have..
> The Kaioshins/Supreme Kais who like many in this god tier, have existed for many millenniums are known as the Gods of Creation. They are known to create Life such as Planets/moons/stars in their universes to ensure quality of life is maintained especially after those forms of life are destroyed in the process to keep the Balance of their own Mortal levels in their universe in order along with its mortal levels and quality of life can keep prospering through its creation as assigned from their superiors or previous generation of Kai And from Higher beings like angels grand priest, and most important
The ruler of All/Omni King Etc that have chosen the Kaioshins to oversee this as their Task and Life duty/purpose.
> The Gods of Destruction/Destroyers/Hakaioshins their status are similar to Kaioshins but are polar opposites in how they undergo their methods the fact that they are known for destroying, You would think this falls into danger but its actually a process in order to maintain balance in their universes just like their opposite counter parts. As the 7th God of Destruction Lord Beerus once stated in Battle of Gods ''Before Creation Comes Destruction'' Its a Destroyer's job to destroy what is deem to cause unbalance In their own universe due to its Mortal level and quality of life.
There are 1 god of destruction in each 12 universe and whats quite interesting is that each god of destruction are different in appearance unlike the angels or the kaioshins that appear to have a similar looks and features regardless of genders within own hierarchy. The Gods of destruction are powerful beings from different species that have attained a powerful godly state of power respectively to undergo their task/life duty in carrying out destruction from the higher ups in the god tier.
Assigned to each gods of destruction is 1 Angel per god of destruction who are in charge in supervising the gods of destruction if certain things could go out of hand then the angel are assigned to them makes sure to oversee that their task are done correctly according to the highest among the god tier Grand Priest and The Omni King.
Both Gods of Creation and Destruction of each universe are supposedly linked to each other in the idea that if 1 dies so does that other which is why their roles and fates are intertwine with one another.
> Angels Above the hierarchy of gods of creation and destruction and oversee this progress
> Omni-King/Ruler Of All is at the highest of this God Tier and as the name suggests rules over all 12 universes and All beings in existence.
And now unfortunately, Sigh....
lets get into the BAD..And There are a Bucket List of them.
Because what i just said above was I felt in my opinion are the only good stuff regarding this series.
There are MANY flaws in regards to the story that fail in such an Epic way in this category and yes the dragon ball franchise usually establishes as this fun action anime for kids and teens much to the dismay of others looking more along the lines of noteworthy writing. But in a way when it comes to its writing to DBS NEVER did it have to fall so flat on its face and stumble,
this IS exactly what DBS does which is so disappointing.
So to start off with its first biggest blunder was wasting weeks upon weeks to re-adapt the story lines of two films that most fandom and viewers had already seen.
Fans of the Dragon Ball franchise were eagerly waiting for the story to continue upon the release of Dragon Ball Super's first couple of arcs but were instead greeted by the start to a long remake of Battle of Gods and Fukkatsu no F.
Yeah Sure, both story arcs did a bit of tweaks to change things up such as having Bulma's birthday party take place on a cruise ship rather than the Capsule Corporation property with some scenes adjusted to a few character moments However I myself here would've personally omit these two story arcs completely, starting Dragon Ball Super off with the Universe 6 Tournament Arc, taking more time to develop that arc and it's characters alongside new characters like champa, vados, Cabbe, Hit, Magetta, Jaco, a better introduction to the fact bulma has a sister and so forth would have led to a better build up for these characters as well as giving the viewers better insight about them like we did with Beerus And Whis and through actual good competent writing it would've easily given fans much more acknowledgement and intrigue to these characters.
Another MAJOR FLAW was The Pre production with its storyboard along with Art and Animation which looked very bad at times in Battle of Gods and the Fukkatsu no F as well as the handling of the storyboard within the arcs and episodes dragging on for way too long for having such a short arc between the 2. (Not just these first 2 arcs but all of the arcs in general)
Cool story concepts were just thrown out the window, like Goten and Trunks making their appearance in the battle against Frieza only to defuse right away.
I personally hate stuff like this in the writing of these characters if they aren't gonna follow through on what they can contribute to the arc because the movie left the idea open that both these characters would have aged (which is something that the writer should also fix) Not to mention that it would be dangerous for them to be there because Frieza was defeated and killed by saiyans who resemble the two boys, that being of course Goku and Future Trunks.
Regardless whether you like or dislike these, the movies handled these storylines in a short and sweet manner within the Time frame it had and with better art and animation direction since it suited more for a feature length production than anything not a 13 episode series with not much expanded upon at ALL, Unless your name was Goku or Vegeta
because simply put, the movie didn't waste poor animation sequences on dragging out something we had already seen and no doubt, I would want to fix this and improve upon it but Toei messed this up ENTIRELY and even during the manga it had already SKIPPED the ROF movie since it was previously adapted anyway so what was the point in all of that?
These movie retellings start after episode 3 all the way to episode 27 with some in between fillers not seen at this point which does hint at some important story developments later on We do get to see other decent stuff like Gohan And Videl's First child Pan, and additional training segments that goku and vegeta undertake guided by their new mentor whis which is also important for later on but to be placed in between 2 short arcs that are just movies being retold is not only extremely lazy but kills that excitement of prospect for your audience who would have seen this before the series was even being developed and demand new content that will be something they wouldn't have seen yet.
Also not many characters get treated very well in the spotlight here as much as both goku and vegeta do and throughout most of the show it is pretty much The goku and vegeta show.
Speaking of the 2 characters lets talk about yet ANOTHER Big problem with this show in terms of how bad things really got here and that is POWER SCALING or Power Creep which ever one you prefer, There are so many problems that this show is plagued by that writing about it for me would take an entire week!
NO SERIOUSLY it is gotten SO bad to the point that the writing contradicts itself in almost every part of the story which pretty much shows the lack of passion any of the writers has in the show (Cough Cough Toriyama)
Also the fact that a lot of episode titles spoil the viewers on the episode at hand doesn't help as well as regarding power-scaling.
NOW honestly I'm not the best at depicting Power-Scaling here but I'm a professional in sensing bullshit. The Power-Scaling in Dragon Ball Super is GOD AWFUL and yes it arguably has needed some work ever since.
But DBS as a WHOLE is a totally new level of Incoherent as they completely throw scaling into A giant Turdstorm creating one of the WORST power scaling I've seen from the entirety of this franchise And amplifying it Over 9000 with Absurd logic in all direction that kills any believable sense or value to its moments.
There are many examples and culprits of this throughout
And I'm not quite sure how it could be fixed at this point but I believe the introduction of God Ki could have taken a different and more logical route rather than the nonsensical bullshit route it's taken thus far.
Yes! Gods in anime are nothing new in dragonball, hell not even in anime in general since they have been around for a long time. However, lately things have been getting out of hand with some of the big shonen Title series like Naruto and Dragonball.
There are a lot of problems in Naruto involving gods too, but here isn't the place to cover it Anyways I digress.
A lot of you may not even think this is a big problem. You may say "I think God characters are great. Just look at Beerus, he's cool." And to that I would have to agree, some God characters are great, but answer this question that goes back even to the first "god" in Dragonball, how do Gods affect the world of the story being told as a whole??
Ok here is a lengthy example i'm going to share with you to empthasize my point here Let's take a look back at the original dragonball at what Kami (The former Earth Guardian) brought to the table from when he was introduced as a God.
The world beforehand had been established as a world of strong super human martial artists who trained until they were unable to grow any stronger. Sure, it was a little wonky, but the characters were all on par with one another, leading to epic fights that pushed people to their limits. Hell, Yamcha was on par with Krillin for a while. Everyone had their own abilities and were useful in some way or another. But then Kami showed up, and the power gaps began to form.
Goku became stronger than everyone else until Piccolo shows up who in a sense was his only rival. Everyone else after started to take a back seat and, in some cases, just gave up. Look at Yamcha, yeah he gets made fun of because he sucks and is lazy now, but way back in Dragonball he was one of the strongest humans we knew about. Then the gaps formed, and he just quits fighting.
Honestly, you can't blame him, I'd quit too if my opponents could fight a God and live to tell about it.
Some of you reading through may be wondering, "Why am I debating on this whole God thing being such a huge problem in dragonball,
and can it be fixed?" And actually, it isn't that hard but yes it can
(If Toriyama actually had a decent editor by his side).
For me, I personally have given this a lot of thought because there are at least two easy ways to make Gods not ruin a series no matter how strong or broken you make them.
Now at this moment I like to address my attention and focus on the relevance of powerscaling regarding strong and weaker characters regarding their power. Actually, I don't have a whole lot to say here, because nothing needs to be said thats already been said. You can see from any random episode in Dragonball Super how massive the gap in powers are and how far out of their way they have to go to make weak characters relevant.
Just go back and watch the episode 61 of Future Trunks gaining a new transformation when goku and vegeta fail to deal with the villains Goku Black and Zamasu and tell ME they didn't have to do some absolute bullcrap powerup to make Trunks seem relevant to the current scaling right there.
for example Like how was Trunks able to fight on par with a Super Saiyan Blue? and a Super Saiyan Rosé? They are suppose to be God forms that are much greater than the typical variations of super saiyan form/stages of 1, 2 & 3 from the previous series DBZ.
Speaking Of Gods what about Humans? Oh did you think i was gonna let the Plot Armour BS with Future Mai Slide?? Like Guns other than sorbet's stupid alien ray gun should have any effects on Inhuman level threats here. Or even Master Roshi using the Mafuba like 3 times in a roll which should technically kill him on the first try? like SERIOUSLY? if this is an attempt in trying to push certain character importance in the story than its a real lousy attempt which does not give any depth or honest credibility to the characters except for the plot at bay yes about the not so noteworthy writing from earlier,
(I'm fully aware of it) But it gets much WORSE.
Here is Another example, How was Android 17 and Krillin and even Gohan able to fight against Super Saiyan Blue Goku? Sure he was holding back but I don't buy the fact that simply training to match that level of goku's power would give Android 17 that much of an increase in power never mind having unlimited energy when he was NOWHERE the level of imperfect cell back in Z!? I'm sure I'm going to get hate for that but I and many other fans simply don't believe it let alone buy it at all!
Frieza Training for 4 months to reach a form that surpasses Super Saiyan Blue? No way that's gonna just fly by with me, even if he was born with the power to fight Super Saiyan Goku and never trained a day in his life.
One of the more worser culprit on this topic is no doubt Future Trunks and our 2 new female saiyans yes the very first females to become super saiyans in the franchise Caulifa And Kale not only gain such an increase from only turning into super saiyans for the first time but then excel at becoming enough powerful to even challenge the likes of goku at his new found Saiyan god power And they are way below that level!!??
The writing is beyond the point of sheer disrespect to those characters that worked hard to earn it which is such a MAJOR PROBLEM IN THIS SHOW! It feels like with certain characters here like trunks, kale, 17, Caulifa etc, gaining these high level of power to even be able to match their powers towards the main character goku makes me feel that NOTHING feels earned.
If only the show Took some time to develop God Ki, no matter if it's an episode or two, It should've tried its best to fix this new level of power so the show can stay interesting instead what you end up here is this mess and speaking of A mess, I mean what isn't a mess with this show? I have not even started with the other flaws of this show yet lol
Geez I've never cringed so hard at a anime in regards to transformations as much as this one, this is one of the most over used in the shonen genre of anime but its creativity of it now lacks any substance or meaning for any character with a new form in this show and just feels like color pallet changes like throwing multi color sprinkles on top of the worst birthday cake ever. ( Not to mention The names of some of these transformations are downright BAD and convoluted to say in face value)
In short When it comes to power ups and transformations in dragonball it is sadly now become a complete joke when before it really wasn't and at times in this series it can look like a complete Asspull.
While I'm on this topic of transformations and now Asspulls, I'm going to talk about Trunks and his Super Saiyan ANGST Oh sorry RAGE form, something that proved to be more effective than the wasted potential known as Potaro Fusion Vegito's reappearance. Super Saiyan Rage is commonly referred to as an Asspull because we never really got to see Trunks earn the power despite his brief training with Vegeta. (like getting his ass kicked about over the place by daddy counts.)
I stated earlier that I would love if they didn't have the two movie arcs adapted at the start of DBS, and I believe that omitting those two arcs would greatly help in opening up more time for future story arcs to develop.
I would personally have taken the time to dive into Trunks and his hidden potential, I would spend the time showing how he became as strong as he was and why he was worthy of fighting among gods such as Goku, Vegeta, and Goku Black. That way, his form wouldn't be such an asspull because it would have been developed and built up where otherwise wasn't in the finished product.
But Toei were like nope lets just place it in there on the spot with no proper build up what so ever.
Lastly what hurts the story the most is the lack of URGENCY!
When you get right down to it the main story plot are not really as interesting or not as varied as it could be in certain arcs there are many places that could of been explored or characters to get a better in depth look into (I'm Looking at YOU JIREN The GAY).
Even though yes we do get more about the lore regarding the gods of destruction and angels as well as its laws and the order that governs universes and certain species with their own unique traits but we should be given enough information that could keep viewers invested as it tend to deviates to having what is perhaps very common nowadays and that is fake tension or the likelihood of something at stake which lets be honest the show is called dragon ball where the dead can be bought back to the living anyways however what made the previous series standout was how the mood change in the story of when something dangerous was not what the heroes could expect.
But Now the heroes have unlikely help thanks to beerus and whis and granted even Zeno which is a character who is at the top tier of all the powerful characters and yet goku has already befriended him so where is the urgency gone now and where can the danger even esculate from there? AND on top of that is Of course The Super Dragonballs..
Personally I believe that the Dragon Balls should be restricted to Planet Earth and Namek. The Dragon Balls were originally created by Namekians and they were programmed to have restrictions, keeping some portion of intensity and stakes for our characters. But now we have planet sized balls that can literally grant anything and can supposedly be gathered quite quick.
Taking away these Dragon Balls would keep the little tension that Dragon Ball had left rather than completely making anything possible. Sure, these Super Dragon Balls could have been created by a Namekian and they have helped moved story arcs forward, but aside from opening up the idea of a godly Namekian they are instead created by some dragon god Zarama,
Seriously! the Super Dragon Balls are such a stupid addition to the series that I wish they would be remove from the story completely to keep tension to a series that arguably had lost all the tension and stakes that it had. Which is why the pre production, the writing and any concept are lost in the mix and overall damages itself and its chances to make any convincingly good story ideas what so ever and instead decides to shoot itself in the foot along with the fact that this story takes place within a 10 year time skip before the end of Z which happens to indicate in the very least that there was never any tension to begin with. but hey at least they have the marketing and merchandising down right???
ART/ANIMATION - 6
Okay I know that this review is long enough as it is, but I REALLY want to discuss In depth about this department of DBS as the art and animation has been hit with many complaints During its run time which i'm going to super dive into so this will be a Long one here folks..I know (Sorry).
Now to note, I am not defending nor attacking the animation of Super. There are moments where it looks obviously poor in how its handled, but there are also moments where it's undeniably great. Taking sides would be immature on my part, and the point of this review is to eliminate some very common lies about Super, but in the process some of you may look at the animation differently than you once did. If you think Super looks great as of now, or if you think it still looks Subpar, I can understand both viewpoints, but for this review I won't be picking sides.
Even if there are points where it seems like I'm trying to defend Super's animation, I only do so as there is far more negative misinformation than positive. But before I begin myth busting, it's best that you know many prominent words in this review that relate to animation which are crucial to understanding the topic at hand.
First things first, it's best to make sure that you're aware of the difference between art, animation, and story boarding, because I've seen many people refer to art or story boarding as animation, which they clearly aren't. Art is exactly what we all know it as, it's a motionless drawing that is used in conjunction with other drawings to create what we know as animation.
Animation is the process of utilizing multiple drawings in a sequence to convey movement, but the animation is a result of numerous drawings, not just one. Storyboarding is a basic outline given to the animators which basically tells them how each scene is constructed and how the animators should animate that scene, or if you want to use an analogy, you could say that the storyboard is the skeleton while the art and animation are the skin. So when you see a bad pictures from Dragonball Super Episode 5, 24, 25 (btw there are many!)
If you really like the camera angles or choreography of a certain scene, the person to praise for those ideas being implemented is usually the storyboard artist rather than the animators, as the storyboard artist builds the skeleton of the episode.
However, this is not always the case, as some animators such as Naotoshi Shida decide to completely ignore the episode's storyboard and animate a scene purely with their own thought process.
But now for the staff positions. Key animators and inbetween animators speak for themselves, they draw key frames and inbetween frames respectively. The difference between them is that a key frame is generally on the screen for much longer than an inbetween frame, so because of that key frames are generally quite detailed whereas inbetweens are very rough, as the viewer doesn't see them for more than a fraction of a second. There are also second key animators, who assist that episode's animation supervisors by correcting as many iffy frames of art as they can to ensure more consistent quality across the board. The storyboard artist obviously makes the storyboard which is essentially the skeleton of the entire episode. All of these people are what keep an episode afloat, while the higher ups focus on refining their work.
Lastly, the higher ups themselves. The animation supervisor is someone who orchestrates the animators as well as correcting their work to make sure it looks good and consistent, and occasionally animating sections of their own. The assistant supervisor is obviously the assistant to the animation supervisor, often helping by animating a scene in the episode or also providing corrections. The chief animation supervisor has the job to basically take art frames already corrected by the supervisors and correct them to ensure that there is a good bridge between the differing styles of the multiple supervisors.
There is also what I'm going to be referring to as "bank animation", which is basically animation that is recycled to be used across multiple episodes, as a lot of people have noticed that tactic being used recently in Super. However, utilizing bank animation didn't just start recently, in fact it's been used in the Dragonball series for a long time. However, the reason why we're seeing it so often in Super recently is both due to the show's schedule and as a method to decrease the amount of work animators need to put on an episode so they can work on another one later down the line. But it's not like Dragonball invented this tactic, as it's pretty unanimous among most anime franchises.
Something I've seen Many people claim about Dragonball Super episodes is budget. If the budget is high the animation is great, and if the budget is low the animation sucks. That seems to be people's thought process about how Super's animation works, that a good episode has a large budget, and a bad episode had a small one. It would seem obvious, after all, isn't that how most anime work? To put it simply, all these claims are wholeheartedly false.
To begin with, the animation of an episode depends on other factors far more than it depends on a budget. A typical Super episode relies on the following: - How large the staff for the episode is. - How skilled the staff itself is collectively. - How well the supervisor can handle said staff. - How good the storyboard artist for the episode is. - How many other projects the staff members are working on at a given time. - How important Toei's higher ups view that episode being. - Most importantly of all, how long it takes to produce.
That's a lot to take in but in layman's terms it means budget is almost completely irrelevant to how a Super episode looks. If you look at the best looking episodes, they often have very large talented staffs with great supervisors and storyboard artists, are viewed by Toei as important and hyped up episodes, and have many more weeks of time given to work on them than a lesser episode.
A typical Super episode usually gets around six or seven weeks of production, whereas a more important episode gets anywhere from eight to even eleven weeks.
In fact, this holds true for almost any anime in general. Budget isn't really a big factor for animation for almost any episodic anime you've watched. Just as an example, One Punch Man, which has been praised to no end for its incredible animation, had only an average budget as stated by the series' own director, and the reason for the amazing animation quality was actually the hardworking and well organized staff. In conclusion, budget does not have a substantial effect on the animation quality of most anime, especially Dragonball Super, even more so due to how Toei often has multiple ongoing series that they produce.
Finally, the series' schedule is something I want to discuss. People seem to think that because the animation in Super has become more consistently good recently compared to past arcs, the schedule for the series has improved. But this is not the case, in fact it's a problem that will continuously affect Super far later down the line. Almost any anime in the industry takes around half a year to prepare for the show's eventual premiere, so that the animators aren't rushed to finish an episode at the last minute and risk losing quality. But Super, due to Toei's poor planning, only had around two months of pre-production at most and aired with only the first four episodes completed.
This is exactly why certain Episodes was so terribly rushed; the series' schedule collapsed on the animators and they had to turn in tons of sloppy work to even get the episode to air on time. Because of Toei's nonexistent foresight, not only did early episodes suffer, all future episodes would have to cope with it. The schedule for Super means the second animators finish one episode they immediately have to begin working on another, or they sometimes work on multiple episodes at once, or they even have to use bank animation from a previous episode to keep up with the schedule's demands.
Many of the worst looking episodes of Super were almost entirely outsourced, as it was essentially a necessary sacrifice to keep up the quality of later episodes. Episode 90, (Frieza Returns) one of the most praised Super episodes, had one of the worst schedules of any episode of the series, but the crew pulled out all the stops and managed to make an above average episode regardless. The reason why newer episodes look better isn't because the schedule itself has improved, but rather that the animators are playing it smarter and using tactics that minimise the stress and make sure the episode makes it on time while still looking consistent.
Also, if you look at more modern episodes, even then there are almost no newbies on Super, in fact as Super has progressed more and more animation veterans join the cast. If an episode looks poor, it could be due to any number of factors, many of which I mentioned earlier (lack of time, lack of staff, etc.) but it's almost never due to the animators being inexperienced. Now that doesn't mean that there aren't BAD animators, but even then the bad animators on Super still have years of experience and simply aren't able to make as good of work as other animators thanks to Super's schedule.
At this point in Super's life cycle, bad or at the very least minimalistic episodes are practically a necessity to make sure good episodes turn out alright. Even if an episode isn't exactly bad, more often than not it's an episode that is mostly story with minimal complex animation, all for the sake of allowing the animators to work on later episodes. Sadly, if these types of episodes didn't exist, Super would be an awful looking mess. Despite all the leaps Super has taken in animation quality, it will unfortunately never live up to its full potential, all thanks to a bad start that turned so many people away right as the show began.
As much as many of us hate to admit it, Super's animation will likely never be up to par with other shonen animes such as My Hero Academia, Hunter x Hunter, or the previously mentioned One Punch Man. It certainly has shown brief moments of spectacle, but thanks to Toei's terrible preproduction planning and the schedule that will always be a leash around the animators' necks, the chances of getting episodes like Episode 66 are once in a blue moon at this point. The animation quality of Super has improved, and there's no denying that, but unless Super decides to take long seasonal breaks (which it never did) to give the staff the time to recuperate, there will always be poor episodes of Super.
Character designs In this series leave much to be desire which makes me miss some old school editors from the past on this one here. I like some of the updated looks of certain characters but not all, some of them i do question like why does goten and trunks still look like they are 8 year olds and not actually teenagers like Teen gohan was? (Even though technically Teen Gohan was like 11 years old back then) Either way they should've at least aged somewhat.
Or why is Future Trunks hair color change from purple to blue all of a sudden? new characters like Beerus, Hit, Jaco, Zamasu have pretty good designs as well as some attires the characters wear like whatever bulma wears or the training gear goku and vegeta had when training with whis and a few of the gods of destruction looked okay.
But I'm not gonna lie, some do look like zelda character draft rejects honestly, and some of the species of other universes do look very generic.
Also what crackpipe was Toriyama smoking when he came up with the design of Botamo, Ribrianne or Quitela the god of destruction of Universe 4 these designs were some of the worst designs I've seen were some of these designs from GT or something? Botamo looks like some of the worst design for a character I've seen in a long time.
CHARACTERS: Overall - 5
This was one of the categories that can hold difference of opinions no doubt, but I feel in this instance I specially Chosen Characters that are mostly in a lot of talks among the Community often which got me and a lot of viewers talking about as well as others have their own sort of screen time and not something that is just here and there in a few episodes and are forgotten about otherwise I would be here forever talking about this (Which I have). So now I'll discuss characters and not in any order of rank.
Baby Pan - 9
Best Character In DBS EASILY! And best version of Pan Overall And can kick everyone's Ass! Don't care what anyone says.
Vegeta - 8
Vegeta is first here being the Main Character here receiving the most shine in this series here should not come to a surprise to anyone.
You see Vegeta has grown a lot more since dragon ball Z as a character who only cared for only being the best of himself and putting those around him under him, since then he has become more understanding and disciplined as a warrior who actually ensures the safety of those around him and every arc adds a little more of a certain level of conviction, as well as emotional and physical layer to his character.
Vegeta in the BoG arc allows Goku to attain God Ki and supported him through out the battle which gives off instance of his moment in the Buu arc back in Z of him willing to fuse with goku, His Outburst when he reacts to that Bulma Scene also gives that much valid weight to Vegeta's character as a husband which carries over even in the RoF arc and then even more in the Universe 6 arc with another fellow character and saiyan called Cabbe who is from a different opposite universe to his own which vegeta embraces and the fact that he'd mentor someone and treat him as a brother like other saiyans is not only surprising for his character but is equally progressive.
This no doubt seals his own Saiyan Pride even more as Its more of a testament of vegeta of the Z era onwards. he has also been responsible for my favorite scene in the Future Trunks arc where he came In beating the hell out of Black through their second fight encounter after much more thorough rigorous training that made vegeta excel much more in power than Black's Power himself and putting in contention with that of goku's own level of power.
he also delivers the most epic lines in number of scenes in the show.
I also cannot forget the development he displayed with Future Trunks and most importantly later on, the birth of Bulla and caring about what happens to his family since hes settled on Earth,
A planet that was set his sights on under direction to destroy back in Z since before he was a ruthless space pirate who did the most unforgivable of deeds and to think such a character could make such a big change and turn around his ways is nothing short of amazing in this show.
Which is easy to see why Vegeta is by FAR One of the best character in my opinion in terms of his progression and development.
Yeah there can be a few occasional nitpicks at times like when the writers do to make him forcefully say somethings that seems quite uncharacteristic of himself, At times not being a team player in the tournament of power showing his tsundere-like outburst despite how good he was when showing his cooperation with goku and others against majin buu in the previous show, or even getting piccolo to forfeit against frost and YES, he is still prone to being a secondary main character because goku as usual is the main protagonist BUT that doesn't stop him from being the most utilized and fleshed out character of the bunch for his many moments like him protecting Krillin and Bulma in the ROF Arc, Giving piccolo warning about whis about the higher powers of certain characters as a way to give him some insight of the danger.
Protecting trunks and goku from being destroyed by goku black and zamasu as well as taking a stance in his fight with the All powerful Jiren. Showing his disgust about future bulma's death at the hands of goku black, Helping Master Roshi In the tournament of power Or even protecting future trunks from Merged Zamasu.
These moments of his character are very good on behalf of vegeta In this that surprisingly HE feels more like he's a heroic protagonist more so than even GOKU himself. that in general I feel Db Super has kinda been like vegeta's show and In my opinion has had more varied screen time than that of the previous series.
I sadly cannot say the same regarding the main protagonist and my favourite Son Goku in this series, while he has gotten much more stronger than ever before his character has also regressed significantly due to the writing and let me tell you its PAINFUL to watch when the writers cannot distinguish between his blunt carefree nature and his fighting nature and instead just flanderizes a lot about his character in his thinking and action to catered to a child friendly audience to the point that his obsession for stronger fighters becomes too aggravating to say the least and gets worse and worse throughout.
Its really trying way too hard even for selling goku considering hes already had progression however in this his mindset is that of a toddler and not someone who seems carefree, blunt and nonchalant in that selfish way he normally would be and for me and some of the older crowd its extremely Tedious and it bastardize some of the better aspect regarding goku's character.
I feel Goku is now this cheaply timed failed comedic fighter which honestly should not be there since there is a time and a place for when its needed but they CONSTANTLY do this with goku every time he was on screen which is like 85% of the series itself!
Its no laughing matter as this makes us the viewers think that goku story in dbs made to out to be brain dead which is completely wrong and goes back from certain lessons hes learned already throughout the franchise.
As goku just now looks like a Mascot of making way further for more transformations In conjuncture to more unnecessary power level increase.
Not only is Beerus an extremely powerful deity, He is a welcome addition to the dragon ball cast along with whis, beerus is quite the realistic talker when it comes to his commentary as well in terms his serious nature and ruthless remarks and his laid back attitude can be quite endearing.
Beerus casually makes jokes and is hit around by Bulma now at times, but he still sends this sense of chills every time he gets serious which is quite odd to do at the same time. Beerus is also develops more as he gets to warm up to goku and his friends through out these arcs and I'm hoping maybe one day we can see him more in a situation to care about his own universe regarding his past actions.
Beerus's design along with his attitude is a nice welcome edition to have in this story as he and Whis fits rather well into the main cast of characters of this franchise.
One of the strongest characters as well as being the most neutral amongst the cast as well as becoming Goku and Vegeta's new Teacher which holds him high in terms of importance. He is also One of the more interesting characters in the show as he tends to hold in balance a lot of morals and choices throughout the entire show.
He along with his sister Vados can be a little mischievous (mostly vados) but no doubt his calm demeanour as well as his mysterious origin of his species and great power makes him a welcome addition alongside other characters in the show. Lastly hes just entertaining to watch.
Others would prefer his sister due to her attitude and figure.. I suppose, but strangely in the manga whis quotes stating that his sister is actually meant to be slightly above him in terms of power so that could also be that too.
Bulma - 7
Its easy to say that without Bulma there would never have been a dragon ball franchise (lets be honest) This instance it sort of reminds me of toriyama's wife but honestly I never was a fan of Bulma Briefs However that being said her role in super is much more invested in the story of some arcs and not as over the top like it was in GT. She is still as sassy as ever and her relationship further on with Vegeta is even more of a joy to see.
Son Gohan - 6
Gohan is one of the most Controversial to say the least amongst his fanbase considering how he had been handled after the majin buu arc back in Z.
He has gone through a rocky road still as his writing in the show feels very conflicted which did not favour a lot with some fans and understandably so, His Involvement in Super through a lot of the series run time was becoming a joke at this point and it started to annoy me greatly as the aspect of his character was for the most part was being brushed aside by his own career prospect didn't even do much for himself in the plot of multiple arcs which purposefully made him be on the sideline, not to mention that nearly being killed by frieza only to be save by his mentor and friend piccolo for the 50th time was jarring just to create some tension for that arc that was already badly written and showed regression in his character to the point where he was below his own power when he was a teenager back then when he first unlocked his SSJ transformation for the first time, while also wearing what some fans call his worst design the green jump tracksuit (which I honestly didn't mind).
His interaction with Future Trunks after not seeing him in a very long time was really too brief but also way too carefree and yes I'm aware gohan has a completely different to that of future trunks but I felt gohan could show at least more concern and urgency regarding future trunk's presence again another inconsistency of gohan's character shown here which he then later regrets when he finds out the real predicament later concerning future trunks.
Now what annoyed me the most about gohan In super wasn't the lack of progression or screen time with his character, It was how in certain episodes they kept teasing gohan to get back into action alongside goku but never really did so until much later on which was Irksome for many that like gohan to have some shine and involvement again but yet again the writers didn't bother to utilize his character at all throughout the show until the very last arc which sees him make a comeback of power to the so called Mystic/ultimate gohan which FINALLY made gohan have a presence about him again since Z.
He was also tasked with great importance in this arc as he was made the team captain leader in saving his universe during the tournament of power which is a really big step up as he was involved by far with the best teamwork in the tournament along with 17.
But after some time never really has that memorable standout moment to rival that on what he did against cell yet again that is a very tough moment to top in general. He does capture a few good moments but not enough I feel to really feel as worth it as I wanted it to be due to how his writing was handled early on throughout. still it could've been much worse.
Majin Buu. - 5.5
Well What I can say about majin buu actually does have a Great action scene in the show but apart from that the writers don't really do much with Majin Buu and annoyingly shaft buu on the sideline through many occasions where he should of been involved in the story which I found very annoyed since I feel his character could of shown many contribution within the arcs of super.
Frieza - 6.5
Never thought I say this but I think frieza might just be the most Perplexing character in this series and someone who was just being A generic villain in ressurection of F makes a strange inclusion within the show in the very last arc (Mostly for marketing reasoning) but to think that this Iconic villain who barely had much interest in ROF to suddenly make yet another comeback to then suddenly become the most unique decision within the last arc is something i didn't expect.
What I actually mean by this was this was quite interesting direction considering frieza's reputation and the fact that one of the most iconic villains in the franchise actually becomes part of the main group of heroes actually gives more intrigue to how plays off the cast and how the cast play off him as well as the dynamics he provide as part of a team where they know trusting one of the sinister villains is not going to be at the top of anyone's agenda with his character which does mix up a lot of interest to frieza's character to something we wouldn't have witness before in any scenario which in itself was rather unique choice to spice up what could happen next. very deceptive and surprisingly witty however due to you guessed it.. the bad handling with the writing team they didn't quite utilize his fully with certain characters that could have been worthwhile if they had a better grasp on the arc and its plot points.
The real interest i love with frieza during the arc is his interactions with Goku between the 2 that have such a chemistry between the heroism of goku and frieza's darker villainy here that does adds some certain depth of tension which gives off more of a nostalgia vibe between them. I wish the same could have been done more so for Frost and Frieza 2 of which being of the same species.
Krillin - 6
Krillin's screen time I've always loved since he is a very likeable character in the franchise, In super I enjoy seeing him quite a lot and feel some of my favourite aspect about his character is that he knows hes not the strongest and tends to freeze in certain situation however he does overcome that quickly and trains more to improve himself.
Piccolo - 5.5
SIGH..oh boy How the relevance of our favourite namekian here diminished completely in this, piccolo's character is really handled quite badly in this show now allow me to explain, Yes He literally becomes the best nanny in the world for pan growing up but is that all we know piccolo for??
He does give good insight into knowing about fighting in general, Yet he only has a few fights in the show but in terms of how they are done they are terribly handled considering piccolo is a good battle strategist and that does a lot of harm to him as a fighter in this show.
I am aware of the whole (everyone gets beaten up, lets wait for goku now)
but in piccolo's case I find this kind of sad because I could of sworn Toriyama really liked piccolo as his favourite but they sadly relegate piccolo as a character in this. Yes its fine to have down time moments with gohan and his family but is that all hes contribution amounts to??
Back in dragon ball and in Z his character was much more realized in the arcs he was in even in the manga being able to logically do something about some of the urgent situations he found himself in the past arcs but now he has become a complete footnote and former shell of the character he amazingly known for.
I have no idea why his treatment in his writing has been cheapen, simply put I believe they just did not know what to do with him, by far the only thing that l liked was how he got gohan to reconnect back to basic with his power back in the buu arc but even that was not well written if all he had to do was scold gohan. Could he perhaps do that with goten? and then eventually pan? Like seriously I'm ashamed to see what they did with piccolo in this if all his character is is just a prep talk and thats that.
Goten - 1
Non-Existent (possibly worst character next to Botamo) Not sure why i mentioned him.Can anyone tell me what goten even did in this show? apart from just being there?
Kid Trunks - 5
Unlike Goten he has a steady interest in younger mai which is very creepy considering she is a 40+ woman in her own young kid form. (Its dragon ball and anime at times so lets just roll with it) Kid trunks only good moment is when he is scolding his future self which was quite interesting considering the versions of himself never actually met before.
Future Trunks - 5.5
Probably one of the most controversial character I feel in terms of how the writing was in his arc near the end, it just felt like it was retreading back and forth with his character yes I get Future trunks is this tragic heroic character and has PTSD from time to time but how do you go from looking helpless to since we last seen him to then mastering a new super saiyan form without explanation of this apart being goku and vegeta most powerful techniques.
I mean a sprit bomb sword!?? I'm not even joking future trunks who didn't even succeed in saving his timeline instead gets a new one created in place and for some reason he could not stay?? I don't know about you but how future trunks was handle in the 2nd half of the goku black arc was one of the most out of left field moments I'd seen and trust me I know Z and GT has some of that as well but Trunks at this point becomes literally of a mary sue and don't get me started on that super saiyan berserk nonsense! It was literally some of the worst ways I've seen a character using abilities he somehow learns in mere moments.
At times he has some cool moments other times hes whiny and he does go through development in his arc However! Nothing gets resolved and even after zamasu and black are defeated he still evemtually through all of that Failed in the end.
Android 17 - 7
Talk about One Hell of a Comeback! but possibly out of all the supporting characters to make the best return, I'd say 17 knocks it out of the park as being probably one of the best characters in Dragon ball Super as he seems the most changed out of everybody in a good way more than in Z.
He I would say is the 2nd most badass character right after hit and possibly one of my favourite characters in the show and of course MVP in the tournament of power.
Android 18 - 6.5
Still best girl as well as being a kickass wife in general.
Okay Now that i've discuss some familiar characters lets talk about some of the newer ones starting of with..
Listen, Hit by far is hands down the most badass and interesting characters to be introduce in the show! His first appearance left quite a mark, A 1000+ Year old Assassin who never misses a assassination target throughout his life defeating the likes of Vegeta in a matter of seconds. He owns my favorite abilities and techniques in the Dragon Ball universe being the Time Skip techniques which just make him different in many ways to a lot of characters I've seen throughout the franchise and someone who is super composed, methodical in his outlook and strikes a code of loyal intent in his line of work.
A super powerful Assassin and fighter able to hold off Goku at Kaioken times 20 in his God form is no easy feat considering this is Goku beyond that of all his past forms from Z and even former powerful villains such as Frieza, Cell, Buu. hopefully Hit could get his own spin off series because he has great chemistry with the likes of those around him like Goku, Vados and Frost etc.One of the best additions in this show easily.
Cabbe - 5
A generic weak-willed Saiyan warrior who just looks up to vegeta as a Mentor we don't really know that much about cabbe let alone why he was chosen on universe 6 team in the first place apart from just being saiyan who couldn't transform who eventually does. thats about it of cabbe, i honestly did not think much of him honestly.
Magetta - 2
A metal man of his robotic species which we know little less care about like many species sadly in this show
lol Do I even need a reason??
One of The Worst characters I've seen in this franchise. design and personality alone is proof of it.
Zamasu / Goku Black - 6
The first 2 of the actual series that are new villains and the only ones that should be considered as such from episode 47 (sorry, but neither beerus, frieza, Jiren or champa counted for me as true villains) i felt both Zamasu and Black was a mix bag which I loved but also hated. now I wanna make clear about these 2 that individually as their own characters they pose no interest to me however, when together this is where I feel that they truly shine.
The thing is I love these two together as their fighting styles and personalities compliment each other oh so well. I am not a fan of their fusion too much but they are still awesome to have between the 2. I even like Black much more than Zamasu because the biggest gripe i had with Zamasu as a villain that sadly blew my mind, was how quick Zamasu changed. Not even a day passed and Zamasu went from a normal kaioshin with a few misconceptions of the world to a complete psycho.
I feel that Zamasu needed to be built up to have much more of a impactful change of heart, a change of heart that would actually shock Goku and the others a lot more than it truly did. Instead we got a rushed transformation with an attempt at a different type of villain which they couldn't handle correctly.
You know a timeline is confusing and convoluted when they need to make an official timeline on their official Toei page. There was no reason for this arc to have such a crazy story. Zamasu really did not need to make things far too confusing. This is yet another example where they tried to get out their comfort zone which props to them, but it sadly did not work as well as it could've However here is what I hated between the 2 Zamusu and black (yeah yeah i know same person me, myself and I WHOOPIE)
I think we can all agree that although his Zero Mortals Plan is smart, it's also highly contradictory.
You see, The plan was to eliminate the Kaioshins which kills the gods thus prevents the Angels from functioning. What's contradictory is the fact that Zamasu thinks the world should not have mortals for a perfect world for gods yet he kills the gods. This makes no sense and the excuse of the God interfering is false because Buu destroyed countless and countless planets but no one came but the Supreme Kaioshin who almost died by Goku.
It's a plan that ultimately has no logic to it and I wish had a little bit more explanation AND speaking of the 2 "The Merged Zamasu" I found the "half immortal" thing to be very dumb.
The purple slush designed just looked kinda dumb and Zamasu just seemed incompetent and incapable for no reason when we saw both of them as total beats beforehand. The merged Zamasu was downplayed due to this look and not to mention his unsatisfying plot defeat by Trunks to afterwards just becoming an entire universe!? YeAh No.
Still that being said...i cannot deny one thing here and is that Even I wasn't much of a fan of Merged Zamasu, (that was after the sludge,) beforehand his starting design was no short of both threatening and divine. The merged Zamasu of what a fusion God looks like was surprisingly one of the most amazing designs in the entire Dragon Ball Super Series.
Merged Zamasu displayed awesome abilities and overwhelming power showing the different league he was truly in. Another thing even more awesome i thought about Merged Zamasu was that he literally became the universe or at least was about to after his defeat. Merged Zamasu (for half his presence) was a truly terrifying foe. the reasoning why they didn't each get a score below 5 was because these 2 actually succeeded in what they did as villains which is a Major accomplishment for any dragon ball villain period.
Caulifa & Kale - 2
Cannot stand these 2 for being such cheats regarding their power ups and having such absurd personality with no real backstory regarding their place as being part of the story. I just could not stand these 2 as for their designs they are okay but nothing really anything interesting going for them though i do like the look of them when they go super saiyan and thats about it.
Jiren - 2
A typical, stoic Macho Powerhouse opponent for goku In the last Arc to overcome and hes absolutely 1 dimensional boring, bland Unsympathetic character in general with such run of the mill backstory and a uninspiring design like a lot of the universal characters. There is literally nothing appealing or badass about him apart from I have higher power level, yeah like every Opponent goku has faced hasn't stated that already millions of times by now.
I would not care about him along most of the characters in the tournament of power once its done its already an after thought and considering he is supposedly the last obstacle in the arc of super is just lame to me.
SOUND - 7
The 1st opening of dbs from Kazuya Yoshii did not do much for me as I thought it was boring and not really that exciting but the 2nd Opening 2 Limit Break x Survivor by Kiyoshi Hikawa sounded a lot better than the first and as for the closings themes Ending 3 and 10 I felt was probably my favourites among them.
One thing I should give credit to is Norihito Sumitomo who I felt was pretty disappointing In dbz kai 2014 In terms of his Music but I actually like some of his soundtracks composed in the dbs which is kinda ironic considering how I'm not that much a fan of this show which is funny because I wasn't into some soundtracks earlier on but i feel he started to come into his own as the show went on and surprisingly had some great tracks that really stood out to me.
At first it I found it underwhelming and he had at times some hit and misses here and there but then his music started to pick up a bit more in the later arcs which we got some pretty good standout tracks that at times while being overplayed were put in at some of the right moments.
Some of my favourites to name some Goku black's theme, Instant-Kill Battle, the ultra instinct theme, Unbreakable Determination, Formidable Opponent, Beyond the Limit, The Final Death-Match.
As for the voice acting I have to commend Masako Nozawa who again is a true veteran in her voice acting performance as goku but even more so for goku black which she just knocks it out of the park amazingly! even more so than her voice as turles in movie 4 and speaking of other great performances Ryo Horikawa as Vegeta, Kouichi Yamadera as beerus is always a delight including the late Hiromi Tsuru who will always live in all of our hearts as bulma.
Some great standout performances by Mitsuo Iwata as champa, Ryuusei Nakao as Frieza.
Among my favourite from the support cast were Miki Shinichiro was sublime as the villain Zamasu, Tsuyoshi Koyama as Basil, Yukana who I never expected would voice Kale considering her ssj Berserk form which was quite the surprise and both Eiji Hanawa as Jiren and Kenji Nomura did a great job in capturing the essence of their characters respectively.
Though again some performance sounded off from certain voice actors I do commend a lot of the spirit with the performances.
The dub also sound stellar too with a few alteration a few unnecessary and some understandable also but does well to convey to the japanese take on scenes. Big Shout out goes to of course Sean Schemmel as Goku, Chris Sabat as Piccolo and Vegeta, Jason Douglas As Beerus, Ian Sinclair As Whis who is amazing as usual,
Newer talents in the dub also have great voices such as Sarah Wiedenheft as Zenou, Daman Mills As Monaka and Chris Ayres's substitute Replacement for frieza who is a very good frieza in his own right who should get more up and coming roles in future and Mathew Mercer As hit which sounds Badass for that role.
ENJOYMENT - 4
While I did enjoy a few things about super like some of the action, some of its visual and soundtracks, a few concepts added and filler along with additional take to its lore and some fun nostalgic parts to remember,
The major Problem is however is everything else that I address by now like Underdeveloped Story and characters with many inconsistencies that got me Very Frustrated while watching through this week in and week out in comparison with the previous series while having some decent aspects to the show. At the same time it also manages to become an unfulfilling mess with many Unresolved plot points that really makes this show's direction feel more like some unnatural fan fiction than an actual continuation after the buu arc which I feel is such a poor attempt and that is how I was honestly left feeling towards the end.
I can easily watch the original series or read the original manga but this to me was a such a Major failure to live up to those previous titles in many categories that I'm surprised it even got finish by 131 episodes later.
OVARALL - 5
This score would have been much lower if the show continued on further in the way that it did, This series is plagued with a lot of issues and for those that wanted more from dragonball I guarantee you are going to be left disappointed (If not worse) perhaps conflicted like me on this would I recommend other shonen fans to check it out, In my opinion as I stated its best to start with the universal 6 arc starting at episode 28 and see how you feel about it from there in what you're watching.
With this review I could go on but one thing I do need to mention and that There is as usual, going to be more dragon ball content going forward for a long while but I have honestly lost interest for many of its arc in super as it has left me deflated in how much bad certain things went in and out of this, and the Dbs manga changes don't really effect to much of the changes that great of a deal either being as it may.
for those who don't really care at all about how the show is written as long as you get more dragonball content and nostalgia from it you can go right ahead and knock yourself out because marketing at this moment in time is the only thing the franchise seems to good for now at this point since the writers have become more senile as it has gone.
That was my review on Dragon ball Super for the time being until then if you have any questions on the review let me know without being too harsh on me about it.
So, Dragon Ball Super. A series widely criticized and panned from the beginning, due to a multitude of things. Retelling the past 2 movies, poor animation quality, etc. But as you can see by my score, I actually really like this show! Is it perfect? No, just look at some of those first 27 episodes, and you can really see a struggle to get episodes out.
This isn't a review of episodes 28-89, it's a review from episode 1. I'll be reviewing each arc separately, before wrapping it all up with my overall thoughts.
-Battle of Gods-
The animation overall during this arc is, in my opinion..pretty good. It tries to imitate the cleaner art style of the movie, and I think it succeeds, for the most part. Minus the extreme mess that was the original airing of episode 5. The story is pretty much just a retelling of the movie, stretched out into 13/14 episodes. Some of the fight scenes are now longer, some filler scenes have been added, or new perspectives. It's pretty minor stuff, not a whole lot to change my mind about the movie. If you want the "definitive" Battle of Gods experience, I recommend watching the movie, but also watch some of the new scenes, and that last fight can be swapped out for the TV version.
Look. I'm not the biggest fan of the original movie, and sadly this arc does little-to-nothing to improve upon the original material. Time restrictions and tight schedules led to poor animation, and it really shows in some of the later episodes. There's this odd addition of Captain Ginyu that just happens at one point, for around 5 minutes, but that's really all of note. I'd say skip this arc, just watch the movie. Or don't watch the movie, and read the manga. It's up to you.
Yes! The first real original content to come from Super...and it's a tournament arc. Okay, I know people like tournament arcs, whether it be My Hero Academia or Hunter x Hunter, and fans of the original Dragon Ball probably appreciate them doing a tournament arc. To me, however, that's one of the issues of this arc: it's just a tournament. There aren't really any stakes, no universe-destroying threat, it's a fight compilation. And while the fights are pretty good (Hit vs Goku for example), and the arc certainly sets up later stories as well as introducing some new and unique characters, there's not much else. If you just want some good fights, then yeah, I can recommend this arc. If you want a tournament with stakes..I'll save that for later.
-Future Trunks/Goku Black-
As a fan of Future Trunks, you can bet I was excited when I heard that he'd be in the "newest arc of Dragon Ball Super". Any excuse to give Eric Vale more work is fine with me. But then I saw an "evil Goku", and I was intrigued. Before I dig deep into this arc, a few things:
• Yes, the time travel did get convoluted at times, but I still enjoyed it
• Yes, the Potara retcon did annoy me at first, but I believe it will allow for more Vegito
• Yes, the ending was a little lackluster, but I enjoyed it
Now, with that out the way, I can truly dig in. Goku Black is a great villain, with a great voice in both English (via Xenoverse 2) and Japanese. Seeing how the Kaioshin from Universe 10 differ from the ones of Universe 7 was also nice. I loved seeing Trunks as a broken man, fighting for what little was left of humanity in his timeline. The arc was full of great moments, like the Final Kamehameha, Super Saiyan Rage (or even Rosé), and the conversation between Future Trunks and kid Trunks. By far, my favorite arc of Super so far. I do not recommend skipping it, but I do recommend reading the manga in addition to watching the anime. The differences between the two are interesting, to say the least.
Limit Break x Survivor is amazing. The subtle changes in the art style that were made are noticeable, and add a layer of beauty to the show. The fact that Goku sort of caused this arc by suggesting the tournament back in the Universe 6 arc shows to me that the writers remember previous arcs. Although we're still in the build-up to the actual tournament, I can clearly say why I think it's better than Super's other tournament arc.
• It has real stakes, the destruction of multiple universes
• Each member of our main team has had development
• Goku's attitude has turned against him, everyone is targeting him
• It feels like the story could go anywhere, while setting things up
Despite a rocky start, and lackluster moments, Dragon Ball Super has - at least in my eyes, become an entertaining and fun show to watch every week, with an endless amount of possibilities for the story. While it still takes place in that 10 year gap between the end of the Buu saga and the last episode of Z, I wouldn't be surprised if it went past that final moment after the Universe Survival arc. In fact, I hope it does! See, I enjoy Super so much because of where it could go with its concepts. Gods, other universes, I'm really interested where the story goes next.
If you're a Dragon Ball fan, or just want some good fights, I definitely recommend Super. If you were turned off by the early episodes and their animation, give it another chance, will ya?
Dragon Ball is and probably always will be my favorite series. I was just an four year old boy when I first had the pleasure of witnessing Dragon Ball on TV. Though I was perhaps too young to understand it, as I got older, I'd eventually move onto Dragon Ball Z. The more I'd aged, the more I grew to love Dragon Ball. I was hooked, and my knowledge of the series was immense.
Dragon Ball Super is the continuation and sequel of Dragon Ball Z. The story is quite similar to Z as we see our hero Goku progressively meeting stronger foes and the
stakes becoming higher. New elements and characters are introduced such as the Gods. Something that Super has incorporated in this show that sets it apart from Z is character development. The series is also able to incorporate effective drama and genuinely hilarious comedy into its story, the most noteworthy being the action and pure fighting that is reminiscent of Dragon Ball Z.
Now there are a few problems with it right at the start. The first two arcs were basically retelling the movies Battle of Gods and Resurrection F. While the animation can occasionally dip into the inexcusable category (I'm looking at you, episode 5 and over half of Golden Frieza arc), the show is never able to dissuade you from watching it due to the action and nostalgia. However, after those two arcs, the animation gets noticeably better. The OSTs and intros are also very nostalgic. But at the end of the day, it is just more Dragon Ball Z. I think it is simply nostalgia surrounding the dragon ball franchise for me that makes you just can't help but want to watch it and enjoy it. I think we can all agree the writing is very bad but the action is absolutely amazing.
If you grew up with Dragon Ball or have watched Dragon Ball Z as a kid or early teens, then you will probably enjoy this series!
hello Everyone! This is my first review here so I'll try my best on reviewing this show thus far through my viewing.
This will be quite a surprise for me to say this but I am actually enjoying this series more than I thought. I know right? Since its A first I need to come out and state why I'm enjoying it. You see it has been a LONG time since we heard there was going to be a new series for the Dragonball Franchise after all, It is a major household name in anime.
I'd advise anyone who are thinking of watching Dragonball Super to
have at the very least watch the previous seasons Dragonball, Dragonball Z and Dragonball kai or just reading the manga otherwise you won't understand much of what is going on thus far if you have not so just thought I should let you know.
Now this might sound weird and completely off to some people out there but I actually prefer this series more for its build up and its variety of content with each episode that feels like it is a genuine continuation, YES I know! So far its just a lesser quality rehash of the 2 movies of battle of gods and Revival of F but from a series standpoint its still at the same time its an interesting continuation of the manga of what its setting up for and I'll gladly say so even if others are put off by it.
So far in comparison to the first Dragonball, Z and GT whether you are considering comparing them or not, I feel that this gets in a nice stride of fun with that nice sense of comedy relief with its characters in its continuation which in foremost is great to see that it still retains that Akira Toriyama spirit in his depiction which is why I fell in love with the franchise in the first place and I'm glad they didn't decide to bring out some random black star dragonballs out of nowhere which was stupidly added in GT which I didn't like (though I did like his art design for some of the characters in GT) Problem was he wasn't handling the story especially when the story thought it was a good idea to turn Goku into a child throughout the whole ordeal which I found extremely pointless.
So I'm glad seeing that in this series so far, characters like Goku, Vegeta and many of the others made me feel like I'm watching a proper continuation FINALLY in terms of its setting and surroundings with these certain memorable moments that have happened in the arcs so far.
Beerus definitely feels a little more antagonizing than he was in battle of gods which the show strides to show more and more as it goes along. seen as I watched the film I also noticed some differences with the story in comparison to the movie which is thankfully good in terms elaborating on certain key points in term flushes out more content that will seem to show other alternative points within each episodes that is coming out so far and that alone is evident and exciting also.
Finally the art has had an UPGRADE!! about damn time despite the fact Toei Animation studios lack consistency now and then.
its nothing as dynamic and obviously won't be to that movie quality but it still feels very refreshing to see something not dated for dragonball in 2015 which is nice.
The opening is brilliant too with good animations and hints to where the journey is bound to take the viewers along in their stride of the story with the showcase of new characters and the music is really good and doesn't feel repetitive at all. In fact I'm watching the episodes with the opening so far which goes to show how good the song is.
The ending if you have seen the previous series also has nice touching memories of nostalgia which the ending songs complements it nicely.
My real main issue of the show so far is that the story seems to get a bit too quirky and extensive at times which is my main gripe with this show mainly. but so far its getting into build up and also giving way for the fights that will take place in its simplistic approach at this very moment which feels easy for me to sit through and just enjoy the fun.
Now do not go into this with high expectation just because its Dragonball, otherwise it won't be to your liking, after all its an 80s anime in its continuation of the modern day that still retains those very aspects of what made this franchise stand tall for so long now from back then, Of course its not for everyone If others are not willing to tolerate this show for what it is than do not bother anyway.
Also try thinking of watching this as just another fun, simple and yet silly shounen appetizer after the big main course, that being the previous seasons of the Dragonball franchise. So far I'm enjoying the moment.
There could be many new stuff to come along the way so who knows..
Thank you for reading and have a great day wherever you are ;)
If you are looking for a great story in Dragon Ball (past the pre-DBZ stuff) in 2018 you are doing it wrong. We all know Akira Toriyama is far from the best when it comes to this department so I never go in looking to have my mind blown by it. But in my opinion at least it never gets to the point where it's completely brain dead stupid that I feel like my intelligence is being directly insulted (like Fairy Tail for example yes shots fired but no one is defending that anime's story anyway). The anime started off
giving us the rehashed and in my opinion an overall inferior version of the Battle of Gods and Resurrection 'F', so many were quickly turned off during these two starting arcs and I don't blame them as it has some of the worse art style and animation the series had to offer regardless of the excuses or reasons of it looking the way they did, it should not have been released like that. A few changes like Ginyu making an appearance but nothing significant enough for anyone to say Toei did a better job the second time around with these to arcs in comparison to the movies. The Universe 6 Arc is when the series starts some new worth watching content as we get brand new characters. Although there were a few fights that were good like the Goku vs Hit fight majority of them fell short of what I and majority of the people I talked to after this arc was over expected. The story for this arc was decent and acceptable also especially with the ending introducing Zeno and revealing an even greater force to be reckoned with giving the series promise to where it would go next. The Future Trunks Arc after this was probably in my opinion the best arc in the entire series as it was the only time I personally felt the gave me the nostalgic feeling of actual threat to the characters and story. The execution in this arc I felt was quite good also even though there were a few short comings like the reveal of who Goku Black actually was and the who scheme behind it. Majority of this arc I felt keep it up with the standards that I remember back in the Z days. The final arc in the series The Universal Survival Arc was hyped up as it was hyped up to be a bigger and crazier version of the Universe 6 arc with it's one threat of the multiple universe at stake even though I was technically on a bigger scale of threat compared to the Future Trunks arc I guess since there was so many light heard and joky moments during this arc I never took it too massively serious. A ridiculous amount of build up to this arc, many many characters introduced and a shit ton of good fights. That's all good an all because coming into anything Dragon Ball like I said after Z that's all you are going to really get. Many many good fights happened in this arc definitely the best fights, animation and art style the series had showcased but from a story standpoint once again you shouldn't be expecting much especially from an arc that's basically just a giant Team Battle Royale which lasted basically over 1 year to conclude but 48 minutes in the show (how? idk). Although it didn't (at least to me) feel dragged out I do definitely have my issues with how some characters were handle but I'll mention more about that in the characters section. The Universal Survival Arc overall was a treat for the good fights we got out of it but I wouldn't call this the best arc just because it had the best fights I would give that to the Future Trunks arc. Either way you look at it all of the arcs presented in Super were fair at best and nothing to brag about to say the most. But like I'll say one more time story isn't the reason we watch Dragon Ball as it's not abysmal we fans of Dragon Ball accept it for what it is. (Or should I speak for myself?)
Art and Animation (7/10) Good (For the most part)
At it's worst (4/10)
At it's best (10/10)
More Specifically (7.00/10 when you average both of those together)
The Beginning of Dragon Ball Super from an animation and art style standpoint I felt was it's biggest thing working against it. Coming out the gate looking look the hottest of garbage is the worst thing you can do for a first impressions for any series. Still to this day I felt it was a poor decision on Toei's part to let such a thing occur for those first few episodes should have been looking spotless, first impressions is extremely important and the result of what happened only proves this statement to be true as many many fans of Dragon Ball dropped it within the first 5 episodes when they saw such a pathetic excuse of art style and animation being showcased and still to this day have not returned to the series and I don't blame them. With all that being said just because the start of the anime was terrible doesn't mean it should be ignored as powerhouse animation directors like Yuya Takahashi and Naotoshi Shida eventually show up and blow everyone's heads off with their effort. Sadly even with their efforts the most the people who dropped the series will do is watch the clips of what they have done on Youtube say "yeah that impressive but that crap at the start of the anime lost me and I can't invest the time to want to get to where ever the hell this is". Good things come to those who wait sure but like I said earlier first impressions are everything now these days especially in anime. And with all that being said overall not taking the worst of the worst or the best of the best from an animation standpoint into more consideration that the other on a regular basis the anime's art style and animation wasn't anything to brag or complain about to be honest and if you take that into consideration if the worst of the worst is averaged in with the best of the best you get the score I came out with which is a solid 7. I personally think it's fair since the best of the best is some of the best I've seen in all of Dragon ball animation and I personally feel it outweighs the worst of the worst this anime has shown.
Sound (9/10) Great
More Specifically (9.50/10) Great+
The sound for the anime I feel is the best part about it. From the openings to the countless endings, voice acting (JP VA), sound effects and background music I felt they were all great in every department in the sound category. They also did a great job and from the little that I've heard from the English Dub, it sounds like everything is great over there also with some extra flair to it's dialogue script.
Characters (6/10) Fair
More Specifically (6.50/10) Fair+
The characters in Dragon Ball were always something that was always endearing to me. But sadly over the time majority of the characters has failed to develop, impress or even stay relevant. The old saying in Dragon Ball Z (and even GT for that matter) days were "if you aren't a Saiyan you ain't shit". But now in the days of Dragon Ball Super it's basically "if you ain't Goku you ain't shit". Now we know the ultimate formula of layout of a Dragon Ball Z arcs for the most part goes bad guys show up Vegeta and maybe Piccolo get a fight, a win or two in until they get mopped then Goku shows up and takes it from there. Majority of the time this formula can be seen in all of the movies. When it came to Dragon Ball Super this formula never really is show cased. (And I'm not counting the first two arcs since both of those were movies originally titled with a Z in their names vs a Super). Even though we don't see this predictable by now formula in Super doesn't mean it's for the better or worse as changing from it only showcased it's pro and cons. One Pro is that since it isn't following that formula, it's hard to predict exactly will happen next, which is good to some degree. The cons show themselves a bit differently as each arc has it's new narrative content but from a story standpoint based on what the characters decided to do they have lead the story down such inconsistencies or disappointments that are shown though out each arc. Like I said I don't really care about high quality story telling when it comes to Dragon Ball and to tell high quality story telling in and story you must also have a high quality/well written characters to coincide the high quality story telling one can say they must go hand in hand. With that being said we all know characters in the Dragon Ball Universe aren't that impressive but we can agree that the characters are better and more interesting than the story they exist within right? (or am I alone on that statement also? anyway..). Either way I'm not going to break down the issues I have with every single character that I thought had an issue with new or old that Super has showcased as this section is already long enough for you to understand where I'm coming from. But what I will do is a quick run down ok?... and... Gohan is a disappointment, Vegeta is still and for ever will be behind Goku (but who isn't?) with Hit and Jiren being the new people pushing Goku farther sadly, Trunks was cool until he left, Hit was awesome until he gets whooped by the hyped up Jiren who's backstory is the most generic backstory I've seen in a hot minute and also get's nerfed 80% of the way thru the arc and ultimately disappoints. Champa was cool tho right? Everyone else isn't worth mentioning even in this short period of time I've given myself.
Enjoyment (8/10) Very Good
More Specifically (8.50/10) Very Good+
Regardless of everything that bothered me with Dragon Ball Super for the 2-3 years that it aired, I was basically present every single week nonetheless excited to some degree for the next episode it next felt like a shore to watch for me. On top of the fact that there wasn't any manga to be ahead of the anime so more so than often not knowing what was going to occur felt like the good old days of Dragon Ball Z. Will I miss Dragon Ball Super? Yeah I can't lie and say that I wouldn't, I love Dragon Ball as a franchise and any complaining I do above is only because I want to see it do better and is the main reason I why continued to watch it through thick and thin and I don't regret it. The amount of enjoyment I got out of Dragon Ball Super every Saturday for the past 2-3 years far exceeds the amount of disappointment that came with it.
Overall (7/10) Good
More Specifically (7.50/10) Good+
With Dragon Ball Super concluding at the time of this review the only thing Dragon Ball we have is the manga which is changing a decent amount of content and the movie later this year. Dragon Ball has shown that it can come back and still be relevant as a top anime at least from a popularity standpoint. I do think that after the movie we will indeed get some sort of sequel to Dragon Ball Super who knows Dragon Ball Ultra? Either way farewell Dragon Ball until we meet again!
Hard work always ran at the core of Dragon Ball Z's appeal. Inspiring people to get into shape & persevere in the face of unspeakable odds. Perhaps this is the most appropriate place to focus our critique.
What is Dragon Ball Z?
It's impossible to speak for everyone when it comes to what message you take away from the show. However I would like to make a case, that perhaps some of the backlash this series has received, can inform why people acted so negatively towards it (at least in comparison to DBZ).
"Goku never wins"
I can understand both sides of this argument.
Lets first argue against this sentiment.
Beerus: Beerus is not really a 'bad guy' he acts as a sign of whats to come for the story. After obtaining a new transformation Goku ISN'T able to beat Beerus. Which I find personally fascinating because that usually doesn't happen in the show.
Frieza: Goku technically wins this fight, but is cheated out. But in a certain perspective this was a good decision. Goku's first battle against Frieza is ICONIC, but it only turned out that way because there was a entire arc of buildup. Vegeta has progressed tremendously as a character and his battle with Frieza holds more weight. However Goku does kill Frieza last minute, robbing the battle of a proper dramatic ending.
Hit: He plays a similar role to Beerus, but on a much smaller scale.
Zamasu: This was the most traditional Dragon Ball Z arc in the whole show. But much like the Android Saga, it ends with Trunks victory. Remember Gohan Vs Cell wasn't the end of that arc. It was Trunks vs First Form Cell when he returned back home. Goku killing Zamasu doesn't hold the same weight because it's not Goku's world thats in danger. It's Trunks.
Jiren: Disappointing end boss. Not much else to say. (AWESOME fight though)
It can easily be explained why certain decisions were made in the story, but the major complaint runs back to what I spoke about before. Hard work.
In Dragon Ball Z, when Goku beat the final antagonist, it was a thematic representation of hard work. That if you keep pushing yourself, you can surpass unspeakable odds. But with the lack of final boss defeats in Dragon ball Super, that theme isn't as resonant. Goku progresses but it never feels like his training meant anything if he still can't win in the end.
Final boss fights matter in DBZ, they act as that big moment that makes the whole experience worth watching. But with no end goal for our heroes (not to mention people like Whis and the other angels still rank HIGH above the Z fighters) the whole workout is just draining.
Dragon Ball Super is not a BAD show, but I understand why people were upset. I still really enjoyed myself despite this above average score, and I would recommend watching the last couple arcs after the movie re-caps.
I'm here to give my review from an objective standpoint of a fan who has seen and read Toriyama's work.
Story - 6
Its pretty basic, the story is a continuation after the Majin Buu arc that takes place sometime after some time (Its not yet specific as to when in this series)
however It doesn't mean its right at the end of Dragon ball Z like some people by accident think, but it does somewhat takes place in between the 2 since there was a 10 year time gap after the majin buu saga and before UuB is even introduce into the story. questionable I know
but writer Akira Toriyama along with Toyotarō who handles the manga adaptation for Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ anime and Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection ‘F’ Special One Shot.
Toyotarō is also the official artist of the manga version of Dragon Ball Super and toriyama's staff can usually have certain weaknesses when it comes to consistency and handling such a big franchise then again it has those inconsistencies within the story towards whatever comes and goes in and outside the franchise.
Now I can understand if the confusion for some people as well as fans, well that is if you were paying attention with the story of battle of gods which mostly aren't in some people's cases here and to point out with what the movie was showing was an indication from Toriyama's setting placing these films as parts of the dragon ball super series.
YES toriyama is putting the same storyline from the latest movies but that is not the entire focus of dragon ball Super neither is Frieza's Revival of F we get it everyone in the universe has seen it.
Yes it does include rehashing the 2 movies which is a bad drawback here in terms of fans expectation as well as the fact that these movies are still very recent and I get it, Its not acceptable for starting this new series off towards but I still liked to see them to do certain tweaks with its story in regards to the movies, But the main question I guess is Do they do it and does it make that much of a difference?
This is a mix bag while yes they have made a few certain alterations in some nice ways in the episodes but in terms if it really made that much of a difference? Than If I'm being honest it really at the same time doesn't.
This isn't to say its a discouraging thing though, Instead this certain continuation in a way I believe hold these ideas as part of something big to happen for later on.
In the manga and interviews toriyama has referenced a new UNIVERSE 6 with there being 12 universes mentioned as part of it lore in that shares these 2 movies as part of a long series and I've seen some of the episode listing and its as how these reviewers try describing to you saying that ''OH CRAP THIS ENTIRE SERIES IS THE 2 MOVIES WITH FILLER'' (yes because the author is getting the members of the same staff from GT working on this who wasn't satisfied with GT wants to do another. WOW well done Einstein but your wrong as this is cannon so you can bow out.)
Some have laughably mentioned that these 2 movies take up 100 episodes as most of the majority which is false considering the last point of battle of gods in super is actually within the 12 episodes after the first 2 episode. ''WHAT!? WHY DO I HAVE TO SEE THAT FOR 14 EPISODES?
Easy answer, FOR THE NEW INTRODUCTION OF CONTENT THAT CONTINUES IN THE SERIES AND FURTHER ON DUH, The same goes for revival of F as they are also giving way for certain added features in the mean time on top of this long story, the real question is are you willing to tread far with what ever new content starts going into this series??
If so, STOP BITCHING ABOUT THE FIRST 5 EPISODES BEING SHIT IF YOU DON'T ACTUALLY CARE WHERE THE STORY IS GOING,
IF SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ ANY FURTHER. After All I intend to give an objective review, which doesn't mean I'm praising it, let alone Bashing it.
If you do have a question that you need to address me with you can do so if you not sure on what I'm stating in my review.
If after the review you are feeling annoyed about my score you can just skip it if you think I'm just wasting Your time. Got it?.
Continuing on, The story in its continuation has an interesting layout so far and I can say I like how the story is expanding on with its new content however there are a lot of inconsistencies so far which seems pretty obvious.
The story isn't trying to recapture a complete essence of nostalgia but mostly its trying to stay closer to toriyama's light hearted and comedic themes with its continuation in a proper manner where the time skip has happen after the events of majin buu onwards and this would be through the characters we know already of since the start such as Goku as well as the other characters old and new and even those that are strangely in between playing somewhat of a role into this.
Beerus who is a major threat to goku and others recalls a dream to his assistant whis where he predicts that he will face against the super saiyan god. knowing that there is a connection to the saiyan race as well how beerus says about him ordering frieza to depose of the race as he did not like King vegeta now to me it diminishes frieza's character as a villain but can be argued that it makes beerus that more antagonizing and possibly a threat in a lot of ways.
By the 4th episode we see the supporting characters such as krillin, 18, Tien, yamcha and others play out in the very segment that happens in the movie but in a different location, that doesn't mean to say things change much because for the most part it still showcases a lot of slapstick sillyness which really at times isn't my fancy.
As goku trains, king kai is aware of the incoming threat that heads to his planet being beerus and whis as they head to confront the last remaining saiyans about the super saiyan god in the hopes of a duel. however these are just the beginning of these episodes. Where we really move from the movies we go into new territory that brings the fans more attention to what has been pretty much setting up for the story. which honestly is a long while but where you want to see new content and not the movies Episode 28 will be that point of interest for those interested.
Characters - 7
Now despite the fact there really hasn't been too much progression with lots of these characters. For me to go through each of them for analysis is personally too long individually all at once though lets be honest,
You wouldn't watch this series in the first place if you haven't seen the previous seasons or read the dragonball manga but lets get something straight here.
From the very 1st episode, A time of peace has happened as usual from the theme that begins in most dragon ball settings during timeskips.
Goku now alive at this point from the other world is pretty much unsatisfied with his earthly lifestyle which is funny since this is the real first significance in the series where goku is actually working as a family man along with goten, yes gohan and videl we know are easily together at this point as well being that its 6 months later after the events of the Buu arc.
Hercule is still regarded as the planet saviour from the public. feeling grateful he gives the prize money to goku and his family which I thought was fair since goku was the true warrior that save the world from the threat of buu.
From there goku continues to train with King Kai, Meanwhile goku's rival vegeta is more in tune with his family despite feeling uncomfortable with living a regular family lifestyle with trunks and bulma. Vegeta has come to recognise from the time he fought buu he has changed to feeling more of a connection to his family as well as having the same smug exterior and also still even more determined to surpass goku.
Beerus and Whis who we got to know from battle of gods are extremely powerful beings that are roaming across the galaxy as they see fit.
Beerus being the most chaotic of the 2 destroys multiple planets and civilisations whenever he is not in a good mood or doesn't like the food which at times will feel a lot more silly but at the same time enjoyable to watch for these 2 characters in terms of those comedic moments.
Beerus for me, is the stand out character of the show so far.
I love BEERUS-SAMA!
The way the writers have build him up so far has been very good in terms of a new big threat within the overall world of the franchise and a unique individual among the cast in general which for me is a smart entertaining addition to the story so far.
Again there is a lot that could happen from now with the characters, that can change from here on so we'll see a lot more of the other characters in depth later on.
The real bad of this story has been a lot of its writing inconsistencies at along with its characterisation at times which has been a major gripe I've been having with the show so far. Though Its writing in the franchise in general hasn't really always shown those thoughtful consistency it still at the very least caters to trying to being entertaining in other ways that it conveys in its mood of the characters in general.
It doesn't regard to being picky to a certain demographic nor does it try to steer away from its traditional fun that it places its content with the story since it knows its own entertaining aspects of its genre lies towards in and is for the most part very casual in its very approach in that sense.
Art/Animation - 6
I can agree with most of the reviewers here that episode 5 art was god awful which got a lot more strange with the thick outlines that was present throughout episode 4 which tells me that Toei Animations that have handled a lot of series with long amount of episodes will usually find it very tough to keep the work rate consistent which is a real shame since its been a long time that dragonball fans would get the chance to watch a new dragonball anime that has a difference in art and animation and its sad that early on as this.
The first 3 episodes to me are still decent and not that bad at all And I feel unlike certain others that its dreadful throughout like a lot want you to believe.
But it also doesn't excuse A rich company like Toei Animation at times have this ongoing reputation of poor handling of art and animations in series such as One Piece, World Trigger, Digimon, Toriko, Sailor Moon, Yu-Gi-Oh along with SO many others that toei I feel are mainly damaging their own reputation because these are some major household names that they have the rights to the handling of the art and animation in the process.
I simply cannot ignore that they are being quite disrespectful to the shows including most of all Dragonball Super and its fans in terms of their service. Dragonball as a franchise has been one of their biggest profits. I mean just look at how well Battle of Gods and Revival of F did here in the west.
(Which I know already some are mixed on it anyways)
To me its just odd for a studio that has had great earnings and yet are making this show with inconsistent art and animations in the way it has been for episodes 4 and 5, Though recently it has been handled carefully as of late.
Its Easily not a favourable studio amongst the fans which is obvious, They seemed to have less acknowledgement in what they are doing which I don't believe that to be the characters or the writing what so ever but the animators and designers behind the way certain episodes are handled which is unfortunate and yet Toei have also been known to up the quality when it is needed like they did when they showed off the transformation of SSJ3 Goku but then they didn't keep up with its consistency which makes this section a mixed bag here. then again that possibly could alter or change sometimes.
Hell even creator toriyama, TORIYAMA!! of all people was unhappy with the state of its animation and came out about his feelings on it, so you know this is already an issue.
However the Visual have started to make a much better improvement now and now I absolutely applaud them for that even at times the art might look a little wonky it is becoming a lot more handled with better care than that of episode 5 at this point.
Sound - 6
Apart from some of the characters that sound off in their performance other voice actors such Ryo Horikawa as Vegeta, Kouichi Yamadera as Beerus and Tien, Tsuru Hiromi as Bulma, Morita Masakazu as Whis along with most of the cast sound fine as their respective characters however I don't like the voice actress for goku even though she is notably great in other roles, Jouji Yanami as King Kai I feel he should stick to being the narrator as his performance is showing a rather abysmal display, And I mean no disrespect when saying this.
The music is can be good at times but then other times it can also be a underwhelming which is lacks that overall feel to some certain scenes.
This goes without saying but I love The Dragonball Super's opening theme!!!
The song is very easy on the ear to listen to and not so overblown out of proportion that it feels like another show entirely and It goes well with the art and animation. .
Good morning America also has a nice light hearted beat for its ending as it serves to bring more of a simple and fun movement at its core.
Sumitomo has done a few tracks in the series for specific scenes I like so far but not all his soundtracks really hit it out of the park in the way I would of liked it but that might be just down to my own personal taste I guess.
Enjoyment - 7
Unlike most of the hate and negative thoughtless reviews this show is ridiculously getting in the space of 5 episodes and so on. I have found the story while having the movies displaying within this series still to be quite reliable with its continuation as a natural viewer I've appreciate some of its episodes so far but its still got ways to carry on from here in terms of that necessary quality of recent animes of this present day and as a fan, It is still pretty exciting and enjoyable without the fact of me feeling that much neglect on what the previous series stood for in terms of its own brand of entertainment.
I'd for one say foremost that this is a okay continuation after Z even if you disagree, Compared to other reviewers I do have great knowledge on this series and I can tell where it delivers so for those looking to write the most negative review about this show are only serving to make other feel negative where I have addressed this in a more constructive fairer manner than these other jokers that can't barely write a review let alone an insult that anyone probably would have heard so many times over by now.
Overall - 6
I suggest sticking to the manga as well as the anime if you just want to see where toriyama is going at times with the story. And yes I know the manga is monthly and the anime is weekly which btw the anime is ahead at this moment of time.
But you still should check out the difference in between though the anime will at times will easily overtake the manga itself which can effect the state of any writers of A story that will have many fans constantly debating what they want all the time which will be at times a real big chore of trying satisfy those out there and toriyama has been known to have those inconsistencies a lot of times of trying to always keep trying to meet fans expectations despite this and other ambitions.
Now and then I feel how passionate and fun the story wants to stay no matter how others will perceive it to be.
Its also a driving force that we even got a new dragonball series and now viewers around at times even after getting a new series is just bitch and moan when something never goes there way which by the way we all can be guilty of this among any written fiction no matter what, so it shouldn't come as a surprise in the way people behave about this franchise (Not saying you can't be critical but at the same time should never over analyse to the point knowing what the series represents as to what it had always started out as a
simple, fun, battle shonen in the first place) so deal with it.
The main thing is to have fun with the franchise in general, without going off the deep end of it.
As a fan I've been able to watch the previous series prior to this one which I enjoy still especially since its art/animation was very much ahead of its time from long ago but if you still want to hear more negativity and very blind insights around you because of someones over analysis of it then go right ahead because I for one, don't have any shame of watching Dragon ball super so far and you shouldn't either, After all everyone has different taste as well as mine of just being a dragon ball fan and I'm proud of that.
Continuing the Journey now. Later.
Feel free to ask me any questions about dragon ball super or
my just review in general.
When it comes to shonen shit shows, or rather BTS anime, the original Dragon Ball is the combination of all the best things in them. It was inspiration to Naruto's realism, Hunter x Hunter's complexity, and One Piece's ambition. Majority of all shonen series were influenced by DB. It had an everlasting impact on the Japanese medium, as well as worked as a meridian in connecting Western and Eastern business and consumers. DB isn't just an incredibly succesfull series, but a corner stone in 1st world popculture.
Dragon Ball Super is the polar opposite.
The series manages to capture the worst in BTS anime. It
surpassed Naruto's 4th Great Ninja War arc in terms of asspullery. Comes with more repetitiveness than all of Bleach. Lacks in terms of writing harder than Yu Yu Hakusho. Ruins its characters much like D.Gray-Man did with Lenalee. It builds its world and story arcs with less depth and more sloppily than Katekyou Hitman Reborn. The series gets old faster than Seint Saiya. Has fight scenes more tactics-lacking and brain dead than Fairy Tail. And the conclusion makes less sense than Soul Eater.
Let's talk about what this series is exactly about.
There are 5 story arcs in this series. The first 2 which cover the first 27 episodes, come with a movie adaptations that are superior to the tv adaptation. Beerus Arc is the best written part of the series and the last part where there was any hope left for the story. ReFreeza Arc is initially forcely extended version of the movie. The 3rd Arc is called Universe 6. It's a minimal battle-stage fighting tournament with asspullery powerups and it introduces the last opponents in the series that come with any bit of depth. After this everything goes to much worse. Future Trunks Arc is an exact copy-paste of Android Saga in terms of settngs, but at the end of the day it's nothing but an inferior ripoff of the original, and comes with the most one-dimensional villain since the puppy kicking guy from Guilty Crown who stole candy from little kids during his past time. The final arc is the same as the 3rd Arc, but with more asspullery and exponentially more uninteresting opponents, but in greater numbers!
And then the series ends.
In terms of enjoyment, I have only ever read one shonen "sequel" worse than DBS and it is called The Breaker New Waves. In terms of BTS series, there is only one title which I think less of than DBS and it is called Yu Yu Hakusho. This series is not only utter garbage, but... oh wait, wrong situation. This series is nothing but utter garbage. I wish I had spent the last 8 days watching Bleach fillers rather than marathoning DBS.
I can definitely say that this is the worst anime I've ever seen.
-The characters were all (yes, ALL OF THEM) flanderized;
-The story is stupid as hell.
-There are no developments
-The are no connections between the sagas. If you exclude ANY of them, it will doens't change anything;
-The anime tries tu use fanservice every singles time, but they doesn't make any sense. They grew up Trunks' hair only to show the "Super Trunks" transfomation with the exactly same design as before (when he actually had a long hair);
-Goku and Vegeta are not heroes anymore. They've never protected the universe, never won a villain;
-There's no tension, no sense
of danger. Jokes are present all the time, even in the middle of the battles or DEATHS;
-Trunks and Freeza's return is completely pointless. It just ruined the characters (since Trunks became a big crying baby, with 30+ years old but with the same appearance as 17 (again, non-sense fanservice));
-The villains there's no motivation. They've tried to make something complex with Goku Black/Zamasu, but they abandoned it in the middle of the saga;
-The powerscale went to hell. Nothing makes sense. Goku Black Pink form is strongest than Goku Blue, which is strongest than any other transformation, but Trunks ssj2 can still beat the enemy;
-It's the only DB production which used the "friendship power" as a horrible deus ex-machina;
-Goku became an idiot, he can't even recognize ki anymore. Vegeta dances for Bills and became a tsundere. Future Trunks became a crying babe, he doesn't know how to do anything by himself. Goten e Trunks are 14 years old, but they look younger than Z (with 7). Gohan became the weakest guy of the show, never won one battle;
-The battles are fast, censored, you can't feel the punches, there's no impact;
-The animation is horrible. I think only Berserk 2016 can be worse;
-The direction is completely terrible. Nothing is in the right place. You can't even recognize if it's a serious scene or if it's a joke. The use of the BGMs is pathetc. The angles of the camera, very poor. There's no sense of storytelling. Nothing.
I know that since the start, many have given up on this series, But as for me I've enjoyed the start to this series so far as well as seeing characters we have known for so long now are back yet again.
Would I say its as good as the previous seasons? Definitely not.
but I guess that will be subjective since it still hasn't gotten too far into this new story at the moment but it sure as HELL still beats Dragonball GT AKA GOKU TIME. Which as you guessed was the only purpose of that show was for Goku's character to have the
entire spotlight and very little development unlike anybody else who hardly got any time to shine at all with there being no BEERUS, no WHIS, VADOS, HIT, JACO, or anything to show except for the badass SSJ4 Transformation which you don't see until the halfway point of GT. Apart from that, The entire thing was disappointing and forgettable which is why a lot of fans knew GT Sucked and why its only saving grace was its Art and its Japanese music score other than that everything else about it Lacked in execution Etc.
Now as for Dragonball Super, It is sort of a continuation and at the same it isn't which is really weird if I'm being honest.
The problem so far with this premise from the start is that its hard to know the exact time where this series sort of starts off from. All that is mentioned is that it begins shortly after the Majin Buu arc in Dragonball Z after the defeat of Kid Buu.
The first episode starts with Goku working in the fields with his son Goten as hes finding his new lifestyle quite dull, he is than met by Hercule who gives him a large sum of money for saving the world from majin buu, thanks to hercule, goku can go ahead in continuing his usual training that he so obsesses over while goten and trunks go on their mini adventure in finding a gift for videl. Meanwhile Vegeta finally plays the role of being a proper father to Trunks and husband to Bulma though that doesn't last to long knowing what saiyans can be like at times.
Now from this point I don't think I need to mention too much of the premise of the story so far since after the first 2 episodes it pretty much follows the story told in the movie of Battle of gods with added padding which will be a turn off to some viewers out there which I don't blame since I also expected something of a new start which Isn't to say its bad but it isn't good thing either in the way how many fans feel mislead. but as of now Its working very well and obviously its been a series that was bound to happen whether you like it or not isn't relevant because Its here now.
Some parts of the anime feel slows and not really that inspiring what so ever and other times it feels like its rushing on too far ahead which for the series is something that needs to improve on now.
Dragonball Super at times can be entertaining and can get viewers demanding more pretty quick depending how you can tolerate it. So for the most part its best to not go into this series with such a high expectation of this, Otherwise It will feel stressful to get through since I feel the author Toriyama and Toei Animation in general are still living in the past.
From the manga the current co writer of dragonball super, Toyotaro who is the writer of the dragon ball super manga is sticking very close at hand to toriyama's style. That alone could prove to provide some good material but maybe not always to the extent that we, the viewers want. which is always going to be a really tough thing in terms of living up to what has been previously done before in the franchise.
My main concern with this series is how would this effect dragonball Z current ending where we left off from. after all we got to see new characters towards the end such as Uub, Pan, Bra, teen Goten and Trunks which would of been really cool if they were the new main characters of this series and If they were a lot more older like they were in the end of Z but even at this point on I'm not sure what Toriyama or Toei Animation is thinking besides GIVE ME MONEY or whatever.
So far in the story it has taken quite a familiar route in terms of what has been done but at least its more dragonball so I'm thankful on that note (again my opinion).
I appreciate that the animation is not dated like it was in the past and has been decent at some points but other times it looks Absolutely shameful in this day and age.
This is not great at all despite the fact the first couple of episodes were really good and that episode 5 was really bad up and till now it has been very inconsistent especially where it should matter and that is in its action scenes but they have been very mediocre so far.
The only great fight scene so far that has been done in all honesty to me was Goku Vs Beerus Godlike fight!! (Which most dragonball fights usually excel at) and yet since that there hasn't been many action scenes noteworthy which is a problem. at the same time the episodes are still watchable and I tend to enjoy some of the comedy, slice of life moments through the arcs now and then. Another thing that is great in this series is that you don't have see as much long segments of shouting and powerups like before, so keep that in mind.
Toei Animation as some may know unless you really are living under a rock have a bad reputation with having too many projects on their hands to deal with along with their pre-production of new workers and whoever thats in charge of handling of the episodes and its source material would stop making this franchise so inconsistent then it already is now.
So its no surprise on how they are going about this and considering how popular this franchise was before and still IS,
You would think they would they would at least for the most part take the time to learn how to plan ahead of time and to animate their stuff properly regardless of their budget and working conditions to how they are finding it tough which to me is only excuse of demanding more business profit without even really taking to much care or consideration over the show or its fanbase.
Can WE just for once have some thought put into this SHOW!!?
Come ON TOEI!! This is SERIOUS business here anyone of us could do a better job than what they are doing with Super so far And Plus SUPER?! Really thats the best title they could come up with? never mind the fact its connected to the whole lore of the Super Dragonballs itself.
Besides my annoyance so far what I will say I'm enjoying the most so far in this are the characters such as their take on Beerus who is overwhelmingly powerful in this version and rightfully so being a God of destruction than he was in the movie and I do like seeing the other characters now but to be fair I would of like to expect more urgency put into the story like for example A great new Galactic Threat anyone? with such powerful characters appearing and being introduce there has been a real lack in terms of danger
IN This SHOW! Why!?
To be fair I know the chances of danger is there as it has been in the previous series despite the fact there dragonballs but now with powerful characters maintaining balance the problem is the danger is always going to be imminent to begin with.
I can only hope that the new content also from here on in would be enough to suffice after 28 episodes in but if it isn't I will have to resort to putting my rating further down for this show.
Now the Biggest Gripe I liked to mention in Dragonball Super, is its struggle to recall its glory days of the previous series. The plot takes fans on a roller coaster ride through less tension or urgency ever occurring which I will now touch upon.
So to start off, Each arcs has its own virtues and vices, and have slowly but steadily improved with some new content. Battle of The Gods saga can sum up as a frustrating comedic circus of characters that focuses more on family values and food than martial arts or self improvement.
Dragonball Super honestly might as well play out like a family comedy with few occasional action segments in between. The God of Destruction's goals seem to revolve around delicious meals rather than universal annihilation or ambition. Thus, dish after dish of Japanese cuisine is served throughout certain arcs, taking the place of questing for dragon balls and martial arts training. After an anti-climatic ending, the next saga jumps immediately into the action and then after that it just falls into real retarded stuff after.
Though more action-packed, the Resurrection of F story arc relies heavily on nostalgia to make up for faults of the previous arc. The positive qualities of this arc can be found in flashbacks, A former villain returning in Frieza and fight sequences that look straight out of WWE! funny enough I prefer this over that crap any day of the week Imo, no offence to WWE Fans though Its still plagued by comedic distractions like Jaco the space patrolman and strawberry sundaes so what ever rows your boat I guess.
However Jaco is made for some real good moments for his character especially within Super.
Now for the current Arc this multi-universal tournament is the series’ first opportunity to show viewers what DBS is really all about. More new opponents are introduced to provide more combat, however the new characters appearance are just unappealing A lot of these new characters are simply just recycled character designs.
The fights shown are completely underwhelming and we that dragonball as a franchise excels in this really well but Toei Animation just Shits all over this making the characters mundane in their understanding and progression as well as making fans doubt a lot what they have seen from Dragonball and Dragonball Z Respectively which is sad to see.
Catch all that? Yes, that is how its been so far in terms of its inconsistencies that it has shown In other words It has taken over 30 episodes of recycled scripts and filler, but at this point I cant really judge the entirety of this review until I see this arc and the rest of Dragonball Super play out.
We know from watching this far this series that it hasn't really tried to step up so far which I have no idea why but at the same time because we are in an entirely new arc we finally have gained some traction by shifting its focus back to the action, putting down the fork, leaving the wife and kids on the sidelines, and stepping back into the ring in the midst of fight.
For me they should of just let this series rest along with many other series I can think of out there. however I've always been in favourite of this franchise and like a lot of anime out there that isn't going to change.
Story thus far: 5
Animation/Art: IGN Rating 10/10. My rating: TOEI GO FUCK YOURSELVES!.
Overall: Undecided but for me its a 5 which In case you don't know it means just Average.
I recommend checking out the manga if your that desperate since its better handled than the anime. Do keep in mind however that the manga is monthly and is only just been overtaken by the anime at this point.
Other than that Do not be in a rush to check this anime out at all just yet, not until everything of this show is said and done which will be a long time but either way take my advice.
Dragonball super is among the worst animes I have ever seen. I strongly recommend you to not even start watching this crap. I honestly think that this show slowly ruins the reputation of Dragonball. In the following I will present you my reasons why I absoulte hate this show.
The first two arcs of this anime are nothing else than retellings of the Battle of Gods and Fukatsu no F movies. If you have seen the movies the roughly first 30 episodes are completely pointless. On top of that they dragged the events out for the worse. Therefore the pacing in the first two arcs
is just horrible. (1/10)
The Universe 6 arc is a little bit better but still nothing special and complete trash in comparison to the Tournaments we had back in the Original Dragonball. It's obvious that the creators didn't put much thought in the designs of the Universe 6 participants. The fights are mostly uninteresting and lack tension. (3/10)
The Black Goku arc started out promising at first but in the end it was just as bad as the previous arcs. Especially the ending is full of aspulls and it has one of the worst conclusion to an arc I have ever seen. (3/10)
Another thing that really bothers me is that you really can't tell anymore how strong a character is, it all just makes no sense anymore. I know that DBZ to an extent especially in the Buu saga suffered from this problem as well, but in Super it's just gotten completely out of hand.
All in all the story lacks tension and for the majority of it it's uninteresting and the writing is just horrible considering the amounts of asspuls throughout of it. Sure there were some episodes that were individually good but as a whole every arc was pretty bad.
The art is really just pathetic. Just from that you can tell the creators don't give a fuck about this series. We live in 2017 and this trash is what they give us. Even compared to Dragonball and Dragonball Z it sucks bad and they were released more than 20 years ago.
The sound is nothing special, pretty average. But still a huge step down from Db and Dbz which had amazing soundtrack.
Honeslty this is by far the worst aspect of the show. Every character has become a parody of themselves. Almost none of the characters acts the way they should. Videl has pretty much lost all of her character traits. In fact now in Super you could replace her with any standard anime girlfriend and it wouldn't even matter. Chichi bitches in every scene she is shown. With Gohan they exaggerated it with this whole "Not a fighter" trait.
But by far the most damage has been done to Vegeta and especially to our main character Son Goku. Even though in the Buu saga Vegeta admitted that Goku is the Number 1, now he just behaves the way he did before. After the Buu saga Vegeta became friends with Goku and you could see he matured. It's like he just regressed as a character. Goku on the other hand has become a complete retard, infact even his kid self wasn't this much of an idiot. In Z you could see that Goku matured. Even though he loved fighting there were other things as well he cared for like the well being of his family and friends. He was selfish in Z as well but he was always aware of it and took responsibility when he fucked up. In super on the other hand they took his retarded and selfish side and leveled them up to new heights. He really just became a parody of himself and it hurts since they are slowly ruining a character I always loved.
Characters like Gohan, Piccolo, Yamacha, Tenshinhan etc barely get any screen time anymore. To be honest the only characters I think they didn't ruin is Bulma and maybe Goten and kid Trunks.
Because of all these flaws this show has I could barely enjoy it. I will be honest some episodes in between will be enjoyable if you turn off your brain, but most of the time even this won't help.
As I said before I recommend you to just avoid this terrible excuse of a show. Even Dragonball GT as bad as it was, is good compared to this shit. If it woudn't be for the name Dragonball in the title, it would never become as popular as it is today. The characters, the story, the art just everything about this anime sucks and it's clear that the only purpose of this show is to make some fast money because people will watch it anyway no matter how bad it is since it's Dragonball.
I was hyped when I heard that there would be a new Dragon Ball movie back in 2013. The anticipation to get tickets to the showing of Battle of Gods was crazy and the movie did not disappoint. The fluid animation and mix of action and comedy that people were calling a Dragon Ball - Dragon Ball Z hybrid left a very nice impression. When they announced Resurrection F, the hype train carried over full capacity. And again, the movie left a very nice impression, albeit not as strong due to the weak ending, but that's a point for another discussion.
I had been hoping that
the success of these two movies would inspire a full anime series, and surprisingly enough, my hopes were indeed not misplaced. However, at the time I should have known better.
Enter Dragon Ball Super, Toei's latest endeavor into further cementing why they are one of the worst studios of all time. Never in my life have I seen a more BLATANT cashgrab attempt than through this series. The first two arcs were just drawn out versions of the events that took place during the movies. Many believed that this would allow the plots of the two movies to be more fleshed out and pragmatic but they couldn't be more wrong. The pacing and animation were inconsistent and at times, god awful. The writing has been a weak point for this series post Dragon Ball so nothing new here in Super. The only redeeming qualities I found were the cast and the comedy, but you can only go so far with banter and antics in a partly action battle shounen, much less the sequel of Dragon Ball Z.
The premise of the next arc was quite interesting as it provided a solid extension and insight as to how exactly everything worked in the Dragon Ball universe and fleshed out many aspects that were introduced in the beginning of the series as they showcased this mini tournament between universes. Again however, this was hampered by Toei's signature inconsistent animating and poor pacing. Overall though, not so bad.
All of the good impressions as to the direction of this anime was heading was immediately smashed once the next arc started to pan out. The premise, at first, was very promising with the return of future Trunks, and the enemy this time being a little bit more than your typical DB monster/alien villain however things had started to go south very quickly. I found myself watching one empty episode after the last every week. Pointless fights, ridiculously inconsistent power scaling, a plot riddled with more holes than H&M jeans, and absolutely no direction in the directing. It was as if the animators weren't given a script at all and were just animating whatever they wanted and slapped it together. Suffice to say, I did not enjoy it at all. I was waiting for things to pick up but they never seemed to do so. This week's episode 67 was the final nail in the coffin. I can say with certainty that it was the worst conclusion to a story arc that I have ever seen out of any source of media or entertainment, anime or otherwise. It has thoroughly convinced me that this show has become a parody of itself. There is no other way I can simply fathom them putting out such an abomination into the world with their names included in the end credits, not even as an attempt at making a quick profit.
As a fan of Dragon Ball I am simply ashamed. This was indeed an even worse follow up than GT, and it makes me fear for what is to come in the future for this show. I am praying that someone in that office wakes up and realizes how much damage they are doing to this series.
It looks as if they refused to fix the gigantic plot hole at the end of that episode 67 I mentioned. Rather they used it to shoehorn the plot even further into the garbage. With that series finale but I can say with certainty that at this point the only reason you'd want to watch this series is if its nostalgia filled motivation. Newcomers looking for a battle shounen, look elsewhere. This is 131 episodes of time padding, repetitive, discontinuous, rubbish.
After being hyped for a while I caught up with the anime today, and decided to write a review because...why not. Being a hardcore DB fan in the past, I was really excited to get a canon continuation of DBZ, but...
The story gets a 2 because the anime is so far a rehash of the two movies that came out, Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F. The only difference is the awful pacing this time. You're better off watching both movies and skipping what I reckon will be 30 episodes of the anime. The storylines themselves aren't anything to write home about either.
speaking of DBZ, one can't help but bring up powerlevels. There're a lot of inconsistencies here. One example, one of Friezan's new henchmen is supposed to be stronger than the old Ginyu force (confirmed with a scouter), which means that even Goten should be able to wreck him without any effort, let alone Piccolo, Tien, Krillin, or freaking Gohan.
Yet he proceeds to solo EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM without any effort at the same time. Seriously? Piccolo in the original DBZ was fighting Frieza's second form to a stalemate and he's gotten a lot more powerful than that by Cell Saga, going toe to toe with 17, and first form Cell, and then even more powerful in the Buu Saga. Getting wrecked by a guy at Ginyu's level or so (hell, or even double, triple, quadruple that) was ridiculous to watch. Facepalm.
Art gets a 3 because it's bad. Scenes which were copied from the movies look spectacular (since the movies are high quality) but everything else looks absolutely terrible, and for no reason at all. TOEI has the budget, they're simply lazy it seems. Anyone who's used to the awesome, detailed, perfectly proportioned character models from DBZ which could be used as wallpapers, will notice the terrible drawings right away. Couldn't help but getting bothered by it and asking why.
Sound gets a 3. DB is probably the only anime which is better in english DUB than SUB, but I watched the SUB nonetheless. The Goku-granny needs to go. Sure, nostalgia goggles and whatnot...but it's just not right. Goku being as old as he is...it's just not right when he sounds like a kid or a woman. Better stick with the ENG DUB.
The openings and endings, although catchy, are a total mismatch for the series. I'd rather have badly remixed versions of the old openings than this. The OST in the anime is practically nonexistant. I noticed only a couple of musical pieces that play here and there, easily forgettable. They contribute nothing to the excitement of the anime.
Characters get a 5. Goku is pretty much the same, Vegeta is a lot less hostile than before, Whis is a joke and plot device, but the worst thing about the anime has got to be Beerus. I actually liked Beerus in the movies. Sure, he had his idiotic and playful side, but it was also pretty obvious that he was somebody who KNEW STUFF, somebody who was above our heroes in terms of knowledge and wisdom, befitting of his age.
But this Beerus in the anime acts like a spoiled ass for absolutely no reason at all. Sure, that makes him a tad scarier, knowing you can't reason with him, but after a certain point, all that gets thrown out the window in a moment's notice, and he turns a companion? That's bad. Facepalm.
Moving into the Frieza part of the anime, Frieza is satisfying, truly evil, angry and really crazy. He's awesome, but in true DBZ fashion, characters who are pissed off and have sworn to kill each other, stop in the middle of the battle in order to talk about who fights whom first, and tell each other to wait for power ups/transformations.
Really??? That might be alright in Beerus' case, since he wanted to fight a strong opponent,and was actively searching for one, and maybe for Frieza in the past who was simply arrogant coz he had never lost a fight, but THIS Frieza? One moment he's fuming with anger about everything he went through in HELL, then he's torturing someone for sadistic pleasure until his nemesis arrives, and when said nemesis does arrive, he's chitchatting with him over pointless stuff. The one guy whom he'll do ANYTHING TO SEE DEAD FOREVER. Ridiculous. Facepalm.
All in all this is a dreadful series and less enjoyable than anything that came before it. Watch the Battle of Gods and Resurrection of F movies, and skip this anime altogether. Not really worth it. At least not yet. Maybe once they're done with rehashing the movies...
At first i didn't want to write it, but...i just had to. Cant stay silent when someone butchers a legendary series with a cheap cash-grab.
Not sure where to start so..i'll start with positives, as its whole 2/10 so got to have some, right? Ok. Positives: opening. End of positives.
Really. It looks ok, music isnt terrible...
Problems begin when the opening ends and show starts. Its one of the ugliest series i've seen in YEARS. It looks worse than DB, DBZ ang GT. Can't stop wondering why - dragon ball shits golden eggs for years, so i expected level of FSN: UBW, Naruto Shippuden, One Punch
Man and other fighting series we see nowadays. Actually, i'd be happy even with the quality presented in the opening. But this is straight bad. Characters, backgrounds, effects... everything looks cheap and amateur. Cut-scenes in DB games look better.
Let's continue. Story. It's on a whole different level of bullshit than GT. First of all, its inconsistent with regular DBZ. Examples? Beerus popping out of nowhere, then its further explained that if kaioshins die, he vanishes too. Where was he when Buu was butchering kaioshins? Or in latest events of buu saga when last 2 kaioshins could be annihilated any second? OK, lets say he could pop in a second and 1shot buu...i wont even start with golden freeza, and those random characters with random abilities in tournament, the most unfitting characters in DB World. The future trunks saga is when it totally breaks any logic that was introduced in DBZ. Trunks going back in time created alternative future, events splitted. In 1 continuum goku lives, in other he's dead for good. Then how the heck this joke-of-a-kaioshin from trunks continuum got to know goku and create black in his image, if goku died of disease before anyone knew about beerus and other universes, so if he was dead i guess he couldnt visit the other universe. But fck logic, right? And more problems popup with every episode.
I dont really know japanese, so cant talk about dubbing. Characters sound ok, i like beerus voiceactor.
I kept watching hoping for improvement, end with each episode it was only getting worse and worse and worse and worse....i finally gave up and wont be trying it again. Better to rewatch DBZ remaster next time...
It's an disappointment. The story is just plain out bad, you can feel when watching the anime that it's just looking for anything they can do to make it feel entertaining. They drag out unnecessary scenes over the whole episodes. They try to drag out anything to stall time so they can find a story to animate. The animation is bad, it's clean but bad. Poor camera angels mixed with poor animation and you have a dragon ball super fight. Fight scenes have nothing with them except for punching and kamehameha's. fighting choreography is close to none. I heard that the animators for dragon
ball super are new to animation and is just beginning to animate. And you can see how little the creator of dragon balls care about it. Dragon balls used to be a an anime like one punch man, you weren't really there for the story just more for the raw power fights. But it has really gone downhill. If you have watched all the other dragon balls and is wondering if this is worth watching, my answer to you is no. Do not watch it, it will ruin everything you liked about dragon balls
Review in English and Spanish/Reseña en ingles y español.
Review of all Dragon Ball Super up to chapter 131
Let's go in parts, EVERYTHING DBS does is wrong.
They started adapting the 2 movies, although supposedly it was to correct mistakes, but in both they put events like that of Tagoma (I think that's what it was called), leaving him alive, with a pseudo motivation so that later Ginyu will arrive and steal the body and equal Ginyu Dies, making all this irrelevant, there were scenes in the film that lasted with 5 minutes and the series extended them to 2 chapters, being that 1 film can be
summarized in up to 4 chapters.
The bow of the tournament seemed to me the worst of all, leaving aside that you do a tournament with 2 guys who have the power of a god, wasted all the others, Piccolo valued cock with a strategy stupid, being that in Z type If he thought well, Gohan had said that he would train and here he does not appear, Majin Buu, bone, be extremely strong and leave with a nonsense that can not enter because he can not write ... Equal Vegeta and Goku beat everyone, 5 vs 5 something very strange or unnecessary, then this Frost, conveniently showed us that he is a good subject and such nonsense, being that in the previous fight did not do the same with Botamo, but hey, then it turns out he is bad and I do not know what . Hit, the kind of 1000-year-old who can stop time, who overcomes the power of Goku and Vegeta, being both have the power of the gods (and included in a higher phase), the god level is so mediocre that it can be reached And overcome by anyone? And worst of all, the Kaioken * 10, with that mother should have killed Hit by just touching it, but no, and even loses ... Then comes the twist comic plot with Monaka and Bills also fulfilling the desire of Champa, Making the whole saga a nonsense.
In the saga of black the most salient are that they went all over the ass with powers, like Black saying that because he has the body of a Saiyan he gets stronger every time he fights, but Genkai saiyan works only when they hurt you Gravity and you recover and not of cina you will raise the power of a ssj1 to that of a ssjdssj, Trunks and its deus ex machina supreme, first holding battles with Black and Zamasu, being that both gave to a pump to Goku and Vegeta in mode Blue, then acquiring an aura similar to that of the gods because I do not know, his sword resists a chingo (Although of course, in Z his sword could cut Freezer, the most powerful race at the time, but not 2 humans with part Robotic), it is obvious that Vegetto was just to attract more publicity and it's okay, I would not care so much if they did not leave the pothara union as worthy dick as the dance, all that was a Plot Device for which Trunks (which inexplicably Said that he would defeat Zamasu, being that Vegetto at that moment was giving him a slap), then generates that "Genkidama" with energy of the earth and a population fucking REDUCED (With energy of Goku and Vegetas done shit and in base mode), Being that to kill Buu was necessary a Genkidama universal and equal Buu resisted, it does not make sense that Zamasu to die so easy, but GOD EX MACHINA + GARY STU = Trunks. Many say that humans guided their energy and hope to Trunks and so they did not raise their hands, well, when they learned to master / control their Ki? One very important thing would be that Vegetto in ssjdssj should destroy the earth with the shock wave in one fell swoop, is a fucking OP character, but when he launches the Final Kamehameha the UNIVERSE should have been worth dick, but nothing happens to the earth. Previously they made the conveniences subtle, but now everyone noticed (Although good, 80% of fans complain about the duration of the merger, this being the least important compared to all other inconsistencies in the chapter). Trunks defeated Cell and the Androids "Yes, because I TRAIN quite and its power was not so far from an inperfecto cell or the androids. It might be good that Trunks will defeat Zamasu but not with something so forced.
This saga in specific was to attract more public, I know several people who did not see DBS but started to see this saga, Akira should be counting his money while laughing at his fans.
Dbz also had very stupid mistakes, mainly in the saga of the androids and cell, but they were more subtle, DBS is so bad that even the PLEBS can notice that everything is wrong.
This last arc improved a little bit, since from the beginning there was a change in the color palette that made it no longer look all stiff and was more pleasing to the eye.
One of the most notorious things about the tournament is the lack of originality in the characters, not only in design but also in skills, almost everything was reduced to hits instead of strategies or even interesting techniques.
Roshi, Krillin and Tenshinhan have their own chapters where they are given a little time on screen, Roshi being the most interesting and Tenshinhan the most boring.
It is impossible not to notice the stupidities of the writers when supposedly important things happen, for example, when Frost was going to eliminate Roshi, Goku was like an idiot screaming and could not escape ... The guy is a god and to top it off he has teleportation ! This happens very often.
A very annoying thing is the emotional manipulation to eliminate a universe that we know absolutely nothing (literally), put phrases and sad melodies, being that they did not have the ability to make us care as spectators.
Only one universe behaved credibly by being eliminated, acting scared and desperately trying not to be eliminated.
Saiyan girls are one of the worst things in the franchise, being a Mary Sue full-fledged, acquiring powers removed from the ass and extremely stupid transformations (Broly, WITHOUT SENSE) to then carry out the fusion Pothara that seemed to be even stronger that Vegetto.
Hit is eliminated for being stupid.
Vegeta takes a meaningless transformation out of his ass for a super cheap drama that even he does not believe himself.
Hit and his past 3 minutes of unnecessary exposure are something that is not even worth talking about.
Ultra instinct, ultra improved instinct, ultra Jiren instinct, all are power ups taken from the ass.
The end with 17 reviving all the universes was too predictable but it's funny to see how it arrives 18 and says "But 17, and you travel with your family?" Dialogues so stupid that break the immersion.
Frieza the revived and apparently continue the story with the Resurrection of Frieza 4.0.
In general, the first two arcs are the movies made even worse and unnecessarily lengthened, the first tournament of universes is a nonsense for that horrible final and has too many power ups nonsense that even they respect, the saga of Black is undoubtedly the worst , having 10 inconsistencies with Z and even with the same Super per chapter and the tournament improving a little but without being something remarkable.
Animation of shit carried by animators who seem not to strive, there were only a few caps where there really was fluency and good drawing.
The OST is not particularly noteworthy but has a good track record.
The choreography of combat is terrible, showing only one or two planes, reducing everything to blow hit with limited animation, to be a shounen of fights this is very bad.
Was not this supposed to show what happened to reach the epilogue of Z?
Reseña de todo Dragon Ball Super hasta el capitulo 131
Vayamos por partes porque todo en Dbs es un error.
Dbs inicio con rehacer las películas, supuestamente para corregir fallos, pero en ambas ponen sucesos como lo e Tagoma (creo que así se llamaba), dejándolo vivo, con una pseudo motivación para que luego llegará Ginyu y se robara el cuerpo e igual Ginyu muere, haciendo todo esto irrelevante, había escenas en la película que duraba con 5 minutos y la serie los alargo hasta a 2 capítulos, siendo que 1 película se puede resumir hasta en 4 capítulos.
El arco del torneo me parecía el peor de todos, dejando de lado que hagas un torneo con 2 tipos que tienen el poder de un dios, desaprovecharon a todos los demás, Piccolo valiendo verga con una estrategia bien pendeja, siendo que en Z el tipo si pensaba bien, Gohan había dicho que entrenaría y aquí ni aparece, Majin Buu, osea, pinche ser extremadamente fuerte y salen con una tontería de que no puede entrar porque no sabe escribir... Igual Vegeta y Goku vencen a todos, haciendo el 5 vs 5 algo muy extraño o innecesario, luego esta Frost, convenientemente nos mostraron que es un buen sujeto y esas tonterías, siendo que en la pelea anterior no hicieron lo mismo con Botamo, pero bueno, luego resulta que es malo y no sé qué. Hit, el tipo de 1000 años que puede detener el tiempo, que supera el poder de Goku y Vegeta, siendo que ambos tienen el poder de los dioses (e inclusos en una fase superior), el nivel dios es tan mediocre que puede ser alcanzado y superado por cualquiera? Y lo peor de todo, el Kaioken*10, con esa madre debería de haber matado a Hit con solo tocarlo, pero no, e incluso pierde... Luego llega el plot twist cómico con Monaka y a Bills cumpliendo igualmente el deseo de Champa, haciendo a toda la saga con un DESPROPOSITO.
En la saga de black lo mas resaltable son que se pasaron todo por el culo con los poderes, como Black diciendo que porque tiene el cuerpo de una Saiyan se hace mas fuerte cada vez que pelea, pero el Genkai saiyan funciona solo cuando te hieren de gravedad y te recuperas y ni de coña te subirá el poder de un ssj1 a el de un ssjdssj, Trunks y sus deus ex machina supremos, primero sosteniendo batallas con Black y Zamasu, siendo que ambos le dieron una putiza a Goku y Vegeta en modo azul, luego adquiriendo un aura similar a la de los dioses porque Yo No Sé, su espada resiste un chingo (Aunque claro, en Z su espada podía cortar a Freezer, la raza mas poderosa en su momento, pero no a 2 humanos con partes roboticas), es obvio que lo de Vegetto fue solo para atraer mas publico y esta bien, no me importaría tanto si no dejaran a la unión pothara tan vale verga como la danza, todo eso fue un Plot Device para que Trunks (El cual inexplicablemente dijo que derrotaría a Zamasu, siendo que Vegetto en esos momentos le estaba dando una putiza), luego genera esa "Genkidama" con energía de la tierra y una población jodidamente REDUCIDA (Con energía de Goku y Vegetas hechos mierda y en modo base), siendo que para matar a Buu fue necesaria una Genkidama universal e igual Buu se resistió, no tiene sentido que Zamasu muera tan fácil, peeeeeeeero DEUS EX MACHINA+GARY STU=Trunks. Muchos dicen que los humanos guiaron su energía y esperanza hacia Trunks y por eso no levantaron sus manos, bien, cuando aprendieron a dominar/controlar su Ki? Una cosa muy importante seria que Vegetto en ssjdssj debería de destruir la tierra con la onda expansiva de un solo golpe, es un personaje jodidamente OP, pero cuando lanza el Final Kamehameha el UNIVERSO debió valer verga, pero a la tierra no le pasa nada... Anteriormente hacían las conveniencias medio sutiles, pero ahora todos lo notaron (Aunque bueno, el 80% de los fans se quejan de la duración de la fusión, siendo esto lo menos importante a comparación con todas las demás incoherencias del capitulo) "El futuro debe ser arreglado por alguien de ese futuro, por eso Trunks derroto a Cell y a los Androides" Si, porque ENTRENO bastante y su poder no estaba tan alejado de un cell imperfecto o los androides. Pudo ser bueno que Trunks derrotará a Zamasu pero no con algo tan forzado.
Esta saga en especifico fue para atraer a mas publico, aunque todo lo que trajo son PLEBS y elitistas a los que les dan un muy buen material para echarle mierda.
Este ultimo arco mejoró un poquito, ya desde el principio se vio un cambio en la paleta de colores que hacia que ya no se viera todo acartonado y era mas agradable a la vista.
Una de las cosas mas notorias del torneo es la falta de originalidad en los personajes, no solo en diseño sino también en habilidades, casi todo se reducía a golpes en lugar de estrategias o técnicas siquiera interesantes.
Roshi, Krillin y Tenshinhan tienen sus propios capítulos donde se les da un poco de tiempo en pantalla, siendo Roshi el mas interesante y Tenshinhan el mas aburrido.
Es imposible no notar las estupideces de los escritores cuando pasan cosas supuestamente importantes, por ejemplo, cuando Frost iba a eliminar a Roshi, Goku estuvo como idiota gritando y según no podía escapar... El tipo es un dios y para colmo tiene la teletransportación! Esto ocurre muy seguido.
Una cosa muy molesta es la manipulación emocional al eliminar a un universo del que no conocemos absolutamente nada (literalmente), ponen frases y melodías tristes, siendo que no tuvieron la capacidad de hacer que nos importe como espectadores.
Solo un universo se comportó de una manera creíble al ser eliminado, actuando asustados y tratando desesperadamente de que no los eliminaran.
Las niñas Saiyan son una de las peores cosas de la franquicia, siendo unas Mary Sue hechas y derechas, adquiriendo poderes sacados del culo y transformaciones sumamente estúpidas (Broly, SINSENTIDO) para luego llevar a cabo la fusión Pothara que parecía ser incluso mas fuerte que Vegetto.
Hit es eliminado por ser un estúpido.
Vegeta se saca del culo una transformación sin sentido por un drama super barato que ni él mismo se cree.
Hit y su pasado de 3 minutos de exposición innecesaria son algo de lo que ni siquiera vale la pena hablar.
Ultra instinto, ultra instinto mejorado, ultra instinto de Jiren, todos son power ups sacados del culo.
El final con 17 reviviendo a todos los universos era demasiado predecible pero da gracia ver como llega 18 y dice "Pero 17, y tu viajo con tu familia?" Diálogos tan pendejos que rompen la inmersión.
Freezer el revivido y aparentemente continuará la historia con la Resurrección de Freezer 4.0.
En general, los dos primeros arcos son las películas hechas aun peor y alargada innecesariamente, el primer torneo de universos es un despropósito por ese horrendo final y tiene demasiados power ups sinsentido que ni ellos mismos respetan, la saga de Black es sin duda la peor, teniendo 10 incoherencias con Z e incluso con el mismo Super por capitulo y el torneo mejorando un poquito pero sin ser algo destacable.
Animación de mierda llevada por animadores que parecen no esforzarse, solo hubo unos pocos caps donde realmente hubo fluidez y buen dibujo.
El OST no es particularmente destacable pero tiene una que otra buena pista.
La coreografía de combate es pésima, mostrando solo uno o dos planos, reduciendo todo a golpe golpe con animación limitada, para ser un shounen de peleas esto es muy malo.
¿No se suponía que esto era para mostrar lo que paso para llegar al epilogo de Z?
After having watched 69 episodes, I think I can fairly assess whether this story is worth your time or not: it isn't. For the biggest part of the series it really isn't worth it, but there are some small parts which hardcore Dragonball fans might want to see anyway, which is why in addition to reviewing this series, I'll write a how to watch guide too.
Let's start with the Story first.
The 1st and 2nd episode details where our heroes are and what they're doing after the Buu-saga. FANS CAN WATCH EPISODES 1 AND 2, BUT IT ISN'T NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND THE STORY.
Then the real story
starts. And it's bad. There's no way around it. The first two arcs of the story is a re-hash of the movies, except each movie is stretched out to fit one arc, causing the story to drag, and this is done for no reason other than to cynically fill the air time and milk the cash cow. The movies are done way better. FANS OF THE DRAGONBALL FRANCHISE SHOULD SKIP EPISODE 3-14 AND WATCH "BATTLE OF GODS" INSTEAD.
Episodes 15-19 are filler.
EPISODES 20-27 IS "RESURRECTION F", SKIP THIS AND WATCH THE MOVIE.
From episode 28 on, we get to see actual original content. The first arc, didn't much impress me, although there were some chuckle worthy moments here and there, it was pretty much standard tournament fare. FANS WHO LIKE WATCHING DRAGONBALL'S QUIRKY MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENTS SHOULD WATCH EPISODES 28-41, BUT SKIP EPISODE 30, WHICH IS A RECAP. OTHERWISE, WATCH EP28 (INTRODUCES NEW CHARACTERS) AND EP31 & EP41 (INTRODUCES NEW CONCEPTS), AND SKIP EVERYTHING ELSE.
Episodes 41-43 are filler.
Next a new mini arc that's kicked off by Trunks and Goten. Again, some quirky humor and chuckles, but nothing great to write home about. Except for the very ending of episode 46, which introduces the next arc. FANS OF TRUNKS AND GOTEN CAN WATCH EPISODES 44-46 IN ITS ENTIRETY, OTHERWISE SKIP EVERYTHING UNTIL THE LAST 10 MINUTES OF EPISODE 46.
The next arc, which is the Black arc, was very entertaining... despite its plot holes. For some reason, I really liked the villain, and his attitude; he was probably the best thing about the entire super series. Actually, he might be the ONLY good thing about this series... THIS ARC, RUNNING FROM EPISODE 47-67, IS THE REASON YOU SHOULD BE WATCHING SUPER, IT'S THE ONLY LEGITIMATELY ENTERTAINING THING ABOUT THIS SERIES.
Episode 68 is filler, and episode 69 is filler with a crossover to Toriyama's other manga and stuffed with visual gags. Neither impressed me. IF YOU LIKE DR SLUMP AND ARALE-CHAN, WATCH EPISODE 69.
Moving on to Art. It should have improved over its 80s and 90s counterpart considering the availability of new technology, but instead it's WORSE. And not just a little, but A LOT worse. If your modern animation looks worse than the aged counterpart, then something's definitely gotta be wrong here. Sailor Moon Crystal knew this and brushed up their 3rd season, but Dragonball Super... not so much.
As for Sound, there's nothing wrong with it, but there's nothing great about it either. I was not blown from my chair. The fifth ED does like to get stuck in my head for some reason though, so that probably a plus point.
Characters are dreadful. Everything you knew and loved about your characters is made into a gag or exaggerated. Whatever growth they had experienced in the previous two series is gone. The characters have basically become a parody of themselves and are annoying. TV Tropes would call this flanderization. The only interesting character is the villain from the Black arc, and that says a lot about this series.
The Enjoyment can pretty much only be found in the Black arc. The rest is mediocre to terrible drivel.
Overall, this series rests upon the shoulders of one character, and that character is the villain of one arc. The rest is just not that interesting and sometimes even downright terrible.
Thank the heavens! Dragon Ball Super has ended! No longer will we visit Crunchyroll on Saturday nights and be forced to constantly refresh the page in order to watch our desired shows because of the high traffic that DBS brings in! Hip hip hooray!
In all seriousness, Dragon Ball Super is literal fucking garbage. I could write a long-winded review explaining all the faults of this abomination but it'd be pretty freaking pointless. At the end of the day, fanboys are still gonna love it (I have no problem with this, if you enjoyed it more power to you) and more critical viewers will recognize it
to as a subpar work.
One thing I wanna touch on is the amount of people who are claiming that DBS is an insult to the legacy of DBZ. I have one question for these people: when was the last time you actually watched DBZ? Now look, DBZ is by all means a much better constructed show than Super but it's still nothing special. Honestly, I wouldn't even call DBZ a good show. *GASP* How blasphemous a statement! But really, it's nothing more than a glorified screaming fest between superpowered beings that love to give dull and monotonous speeches before, during, and after their fights. The story arcs feel very hackneyed and the characters are all generic archetypes offering little to no depth.
I mean cmon folks, this is Dragon Ball we're talking about here. I understand how influential the franchise is and I get that many people hold DBZ close to heart as they equate it with their childhood. It just boggles my mind how people treat DBZ like some masterpiece that DBS has spit on with its existence.