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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Peace, peace. Ah another great episode. Ononoki was awesome. Nadeko da yo~ Dem revelations too. One more episode to go..I'm already starting to miss this show. |
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| How can they managed to pull this arc to that extent... Just 4 chapters for the next episode? Wow. |
| And here I was hoping that maybe it would end here, and that the last episode would be a filler date episode! SHAAAAAAFT!!! |
| Funny, I was actually expecting it to end one chapter LATER as people still don't know... LOL People must be dying, wondering since Nisemonogatari and now for 5 episodes, just what is in that closet? LOL But that is a super awesome place to end it too. $#!^!!! Nadeko may be stupid but apparently she isn't THAT stupid... Next episode should be a amazing though just 30 pages to adapt! Still love seeing Hanekawa in Tiger hairdo and always love seeing Ononoki. And dat foreshadowing... Kanbaru... |
| Another awesome episode of monogatari as usual. Can't believe this season is already going to end next week :( So I was always confused about this part. Was Kaiki always trying to truly help Senjougahara and played the bad guy role? And since his true intentions didn't really fit his character he always ended up failing in one or more aspect? Don't remember the exact details from the novel since it's been years. Also that devious Sengoku smile at the end >.< |
ihusmal1234 said: It is the same in the novel as in the show there. But of course as he said in the beginning everything he says here may be a lie... but in that part at least he really is saying that he did it on purpose that way, and he doesn't want that to get out. That's what he wrote in Koimonogatari anyway, take it as you will...... So I was always confused about this part. Was Kaiki always trying to truly help Senjougahara and played the bad guy role? And since his true intentions didn't really fit his character he always ended up failing in one or more aspect? Don't remember the exact details from the novel since it's been years. ... |
| So the closet didn't have anything significant in it? Ougi isn't related to Oshino at all? She keeps interesting me more and more. Kaiki's conversations with all 3 girls were awesome as usual :D Ononoki's was the one I liked the most XD...He was a good guy lol XD What an anti Hero u are Kaiki XD...But those were some damn obvious foreshadowings there O_O And at the end!! SHIT GOT REAL!! Nadeko just so easily figured out he's deceiving her and Dat yandere face O_O...I'll say it now. RIP Kaiki, u were a great character ;_; |
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| That opening never fails to make me laugh. Kaiki you magnificent bastard. One more episode to go. Gonna be a sad day next week. Also, does anybody have any idea when Monogatari Final Series will be animated? |
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| Looks like the deceiver got deceived in the end. Quite a cliffhanger there, SHAFT. |
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| damn, nadeko was able to tell. I wonder if kaiki will keep putting up a front or try to fool her in another way ( negotiation ). whatever he plans, good luck! |
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nitrohawk said: I thought they were skipping the OP but it was just late thankfully.That opening never fails to make me laugh. Kaiki you magnificent bastard. One more episode to go. Gonna be a sad day next week. Also, does anybody have any idea when Monogatari Final Series will be animated? One more episode of Koi, then Hana next year, god I hope Kizu too then if Nisio ever finishes writing tinal season then Shaft can think about animating it but I would be happy if they just brought the books out as ONAs instead of waiting for him. |
| Well then, that ending was interesting. Deception failed. That Nadeko face. Man, next episode should be great. Really liked hearing Kaiki and Hanekawa's conversation on her viewpoint of Nadeko and the whole situation. Another amusing phone call between Senjougahara and Kaiki. The talk with Ononoki was interesting too. |
| I guess Nadeko isn't that dumb. Easily figured out that Kaiki was trying to deceive her. Can't wait for the next episode. |
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| dem cliffhangers |
| Well fuck the closet thing, I don't care about it anyway. And yeah, after that ending, all I can say, RIP Kaiki. |
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| Kaiki's look, his biting, venomous words about words themselves, his preparations for his deceit, a little look into his past, his motivations, that tension when he was talking to Nadeko...wow. Just wow. |
hpulley said: nitrohawk said: I thought they were skipping the OP but it was just late thankfully.That opening never fails to make me laugh. Kaiki you magnificent bastard. One more episode to go. Gonna be a sad day next week. Also, does anybody have any idea when Monogatari Final Series will be animated? One more episode of Koi, then Hana next year, god I hope Kizu too then if Nisio ever finishes writing tinal season then Shaft can think about animating it but I would be happy if they just brought the books out as ONAs instead of waiting for him. Kizu is never going to be released. |
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| I haven't read the novels but the intro to this chapter and the title now makes more sense - does Kaiki have feelings for Hitagi? Kaiki has been awesome in this chapter ... |
the1337fleet said: Indeed.welp |
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| KAIKI DON'T DIE ON ME MAN! DON'T YOU DARE DIE ON ME! Btw I don't know if it's a translation error ( I watched the Commie release ) but Nadeko said '' So, you're trying to deceive me too? '' Does that mean that someone before Kaiki tried to deceive her or its just an error from Commie ? Mod Edit: Double Post combined. |
rodacJan 29, 2014 12:35 AM
Takuan_Soho said: BakaGekai said: - does Kaiki have feelings for Hitagi? Not exactly feelings, I think more like a grudging acknowledgment of her. When Kaiki tricked Hitagi, there was no pride in it for him as a professional: she had no choice but to believe in him, so desperate was her situation at the time. He expected her to be crushed by his betrayal, but she surprised him by coming out of it stronger than she was before, and while she hasn't forgiven him, she actually does feel gratitude that he helped her. I think this was a somewhat unique experience for Kaiki, and it makes him feel uncomfortable (though I am not entirely sure he is aware of this, on a certain level the person he has fooled the most is himself). That certainly makes more sense, otherwise it's pretty creepy ... |
| Ha ha, well then |
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| I think Nadeko realized Kaiki was deceiving her because he wasn't acting like himself like Ononoki. He'll probably get killed because how he's looking back at who he is as a person and Ononoki bringing up his past. |
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| Lol totally owned at the end. I think Kaiki's lie is pretty lame, vampires don't die in car accidents. I think he has been hiding his real plan though. Time will tell. |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
| damn what an episode.. kaiki is a good guy afterall hmm? ononoki and her "peace peace" :3 btw I REALLY WONDER WHAT HAPPEN NEXT! someone tell me.. the last episode is it will airing in next week or next year? :/ Stark700 said: Peace, peace. Ah another great episode. One more episode to go..I'm already starting to miss this show. we have a same feeling bro :/ |
| Whoops! Talk your way out of this one then Kaiki! |
| This was very interesting all the secrets about Kaiki's actions revealed and Nadeko WAS NOT deceived. Shit is going to go down in the next ep. |
| Ohhh my god, I don't think I'm going to be able to survive the wait of the next episode. |
an egomaniac and a fool |
| DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN DAMN I WANT THE NEXT EPISODE SO BAD!!!!!!!!! |
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Darkiee said: marian11 said: Btw I don't know if it's a translation error ( I watched the Commie release ) but Nadeko said '' So, you're trying to deceive me too? '' Does that mean that someone before Kaiki tried to deceive her or its just an error from Commie ? I havent read the novels or anything but im assuming that because of her personality she feels like shes being deceived by everyone around her or that they are trying to deceive her which is why she said "too". Though i could be wrong XD That's what the lady said... Koimonogatari page 236, 「貝木さんも『私』を騙すんだね」 と、うっとりと微笑した。 "Kaiki san mo 'watashi' o damasun da ne" to, uttori to hohoe shita. "Kaiki, you too have been deceiving 'me' eh?" she said and smiled charmingly. The emphasis is on him too deceiving her (more people deceiving her), not him deceiving her too (as in him deceiving more people). End of chapter 35. Can't say more without violating the don't spoil further rule. |
hpulleyDec 21, 2013 6:10 PM
| it was so fast,,god...R.I.P. kaiki, you tried.....and failed such a strong character, weird, strong but , oddly weak, he can just die like that O_O eeeee....OVER!!! this is over already, those were 6 months damm it, how come awesome series like this end so fast!!! well, at least i still havent finished the novels(plus wwaiting to see koyomi vamp=) |
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| As I expected, Nadeko would see through Kaiki. Wonder if Kaiki is in trouble now... and how he will escape this predicament while still doing his job properly. |
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| That OP! Uh oh, Kaiki's busted! |
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| amazing episode best one of this arc by far. Kaiki's character only gets more and more interesting every time he shows up. up until now it's been almost impossible to figure out his motivations but now that we know that he doesn't lie to hitagi and that he truly did do his best to try and help her he makes so much more sense now. Kind of crazy that the moment he showed up in nise he let us know he was just a fake but because his character is so well written we still always saw him as a bad guy. i'm starting to get sad knowing that the last episode is next week hopefully we get kizumonogatari sometime next year. |
CripborneDec 21, 2013 7:08 PM
| Holy crap....she caught on. Didn't see that coming at all. Stunned. Kaiki is an awesome dude. I remember disliking him back then. But this whole arc really changed my perspective of him. Especially the talk with Onoki. Damn, one episode left. Can't believe it's coming to an end. For now I hope at least |
MisterXX said: Did you mean when Ononoki said it near the end of their conversation? She said 昔の女 "mukashi no onna" not 昔の彼女 "mukashi no kanojo" which is the usual term for ex-girlfriend. "Mukashi no onna" usually means matronly "old woman" but it doesn't make sense for it to be "old woman" there. Prior to that she says 他人の彼女 "tanin no kanojo" someone else's girlfriend, referring to Senjougahara being Koyomi's girlfriend so it was odd that Ononoki particularly said onna instead of kanojo and if you listen, she said exactly what is in the book. I think it actually meant, "girl from the past" here. At any rate, Kaiki says that's a misunderstanding in his next lines so whatever she meant, Kaiki thinks she is mistaken. Page 229, Koimonogatari light novel, near the end of chapter 34.Did they actually use the term "Ex girlfriend" in the novel ? now I'm a bit confused |
hpulleyDec 21, 2013 7:16 PM
| One more episode to the epic climax and the... I've been waiting for it since the beginning of the second season, and Shaft shouldn't fuck up. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| Oooh busted! I hope whatever that insignificant thing inside the closet bails him out. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Hahahaha oh shit, I fucking knew she wouldn't buy it. As soon as he started speaking. "Araragi, his girlfriend, and the legendary vampire all coincidentally died in the same car crash. Emphasis on legendary vampire." Yeah, I'm sure nobody would have believed that. I sure as hell wouldn't have. |
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| I have to admit Kaiki was cool with his conversation with Nadeko, though that cliffhanger really got me. maybe though kaiki was deceiving Nadeko into believing that he is deceiving her, and then mess up with truths? it's really getting interesting, too bad it's the last ep next week. can't get enough of ononoki-chan's bland yaaay. :)) |
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