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5 out of 5: Loved it!
 
62 55.36%
4 out of 5: Liked it
 
33 29.46%
3 out of 5: It was OK
 
12 10.71%
2 out of 5: Disliked it
 
4 3.57%
1 out of 5: Hated it
 
1 0.89%
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03-02-12, 7:45 PM

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Great and wonderful movie. Thought there were some...plot holes and cliches.

The ending was bitter sweet. They all made it back alive and said their farewells, but they didn't end up together, and leave it open for the viewers imagination.

But if they showed she ended up with together in the end or a scene where she jumps from the ship and went with Charles, I would be very much delighter and score this higher.

Animation and visual is great eye candy. But it just felt they could add more...
 
03-02-12, 8:32 PM

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I think the biggest thing they could have done to improve the story was to get out the part where they found out they met as children and that Charles was the son of Fana's childhood maid who was taken away because Fana's dad was an asshole. If they would have gotten that out earlier in the story and built around that, I would have believed in the developments of Fana wanting to be with Charles.

Fana's development was also very late. The first half of the movie she was as bland as an unflavored rice cake. I took until the second major battle scene and her hair cut for her to really grow a personality.

Her personality and their childhood stories needed to come out much sooner so they could have had better interaction between one another and make the story better overall. The Island sequence felt like they dumped way too many developments at once. It started off way too slow and rushed it all towards the end.

Also, I think they needed a bit of romance between the two. Yes, the novel says that she would be checked for virgin status upon completion of the mission. But still, I think if they started falling for each other more it would have made the ending more intense and bittersweet.


As superficial as the dialogue seemed to be. The overall feel of the movie was nice. I enjoy adventures and this was a decent one. It's a pretty good watch, so I gave my final score a 7/10.
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03-03-12, 9:25 AM

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I would prodly recommend this movie to anyone. I really liked the ending. It's not like in *** shonen where no matter what will happen for example Ichigo will always win.
Anyway we received what we should expect from MadHouse ; )
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03-03-12, 12:23 PM

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It's a solid film. It's a bit predictable and the ending was too melodramatic. But other than that I rate it a good anime film.

Oh and mdz. In the last words of the film they stated that nobody knows how their lives ended. Possibly hinting that they got together in the end.
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03-03-12, 3:23 PM

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I thought the movie was very good and aside from the top notch art and animation, I actually found the voice acting exceptionally good too. So much for some of you guys' complains, I don't give a cent. <.<

I would have loved it more if they ended up being together, but reality kicked in and they parted their ways, which was okay and thus giving the movie a solid 8/10

 
03-04-12, 8:45 AM

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The movie was really good. The Ariel manuovers were awesome and animation there was top notch. The character development was lacking a bit but maybe it cant be helped when you are trying to condense fair amount of action along with some character development to actually show growing relationships between characters in a hour and a half movie. And I too didn't find the voice actors annoying. Loved the landscapes. so I give it 8/10 overall.
 
03-04-12, 11:13 AM

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Guess he went chilling on a island.
Like he said.

I like the movie.
Too bad is wasn't meant to be.
8/10
 
03-04-12, 5:04 PM

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Goddammit I hate endings like this, why can't they be daring and just go off somewhere? I mean, if she didn't show up in time they would assume she had died (after some searching probably) and that be the end of it. It's not like that retarded prince would have cared.

you know, I think that if that happened it would have been less cliche. Pretty much every movie I've seen about romance and different status and whatnot end with them separated. For once I'd like to see a movie that doesn't go that route and actually dares to do something different. Is it the Japanese culture? Living for your country or something?

P.S.: anyone, feel free to send me a PM with a title that has a happy ending for the main pair, e.g. the exact opposite from this one in regards to that.

DJ007 said:
It's not like in *** shonen where no matter what will happen for example Ichigo will always win.
Anyway we received what we should expect from MadHouse ; )


I've seen more series end with the MC's not getting together than getting together. I personally would love to see a show with a true "happy ending". And I do mean together. Not die together, or thinking about eachother, NO, actually being with the one they love, get kidz and all that shizzle.

I've started first looking at the ending of a show before I begin reading/watching it because I'm sick and tired of getting crap like in this series.
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03-06-12, 2:13 PM

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The Journey, the Air Battles and the Waterfall Scenes were Amazing.

I have my doubts about throwing away your stash of gold at the end.

I assumed the cut would be for the entire Mercenary team as well.

A wonderful movie.
 
03-06-12, 7:55 PM

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Didn't like the end. It was all happy and innocent, then he leaves her anyway... to marry a fail prince leading a fail country. Should have took her and went to the enemy side and join them instead. lol

 
03-07-12, 5:20 PM

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It was a pretty good and old school movie, very similar in tone and inspiration to Miyazaki's Laputa and Porco Rosso (several scenes are ressembling those two movies' closely, though not as rip-offish as Hoshi wo Ou Kodomo is compared to Mononoke) with nice direction from a rookie director and a magnificient musical score. I also really liked the two voice actors, they felt very fresh and enthusiastic despite their lack of experience. But with that said, The Princess And The Pilot was also heavily flawed, the script and dialogues were especially contrived and over-played most of the times, plus the animation wasn't that good for an animated feature. Well, let's say it could have been far better but at least it was bright and felt right overall.

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03-08-12, 5:47 AM

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The flight battle was great.
The Seiyuu sounds a little awkward. And some settings don't make sense though.

May not be the best they can do, but it's still pretty good. I think 7/10 should be fair.
 
03-10-12, 1:04 PM

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Goddammit I hate endings like this, why can't they be daring and just go off somewhere? I mean, if she didn't show up in time they would assume she had died (after some searching probably) and that be the end of it. It's not like that retarded prince would have cared.

you know, I think that if that happened it would have been less cliche. Pretty much every movie I've seen about romance and different status and whatnot end with them separated. For once I'd like to see a movie that doesn't go that route and actually dares to do something different. Is it the Japanese culture? Living for your country or something?

P.S.: anyone, feel free to send me a PM with a title that has a happy ending for the main pair, e.g. the exact opposite from this one in regards to that.

DJ007 said:
It's not like in *** shonen where no matter what will happen for example Ichigo will always win.
Anyway we received what we should expect from MadHouse ; )


I've seen more series end with the MC's not getting together than getting together. I personally would love to see a show with a true "happy ending". And I do mean together. Not die together, or thinking about eachother, NO, actually being with the one they love, get kidz and all that shizzle.

I've started first looking at the ending of a show before I begin reading/watching it because I'm sick and tired of getting crap like in this series.


Exactly my thoughts ^_^. I don't know why but japanese don't seem to like happy endings...Do they always think that things will never turn as good as they may want to be ? Happy endings are not cliched since they are pretty rare in animes where life is endangered(exemple Gurren Lagan, Angel Beats,Darker Than Black T_T) or when they want to leave an open ending . As for me this movie was just removed from the list of "have to buy" ... Too bad I really liked the movie, but the ending just made the entire story completly pointless T_T .
Now that was just my thought ^^, everyone has their own taste and I know that many people don't like happy ending like "they lived happily and had many children" ^^.
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03-13-12, 5:09 PM

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Loved the orchestral musics and Madhouse is fucking Madhouse. Enjoyable enough for a random pickup, but, eh, I'm not going to be singing hallelujahs about this thing anytime soon.

The ending wasn't horrendous to me. I'm more mad that there wasn't any reintroduction of the prince and a little more expenditure on what happens afterwards, but it ends at I think a pretty good point. Of course there were chances for them to elope and goody-happy end together, but I think with a movie like this centered so clearly on themes of... racism(?) and forbidden love of course, there will be quite a bit of needed unraveling and development afterwards over everyone's response to their romance.
 
03-18-12, 1:14 AM

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A rather average and somewhat bland story is dragged down into something slightly painful by a poor performance by the female lead. When you've only got two real characters, one of them getting such a wooden performance is downright disastrous.
 
03-18-12, 1:34 PM

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I haven't read the novel as well but I found this was cliche, predictable, late character development, blah, blah. In spite of all that, some of the scenes especially that hugee waterfalls (the sea or I guess, the ocean is draining into another ocean, in the middle of the ocean! O_o ) and dog fights were great. At the end, I somehow managed to enjoy and be entertained by this, so 8/10 for me.
 
03-18-12, 8:16 PM

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I know you're not happy with it, but the spam raging is annoying, stop it.


Agreed it wasent that bad, pretty bittersweet ending. I personally liked the VA's for the lead girl. she did a great job.
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03-18-12, 10:43 PM

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As many have pointed out repeated times, it seems japanese don't believe or like happy endings.

The movie itself wasn't bad, however the ending (as with most anime) screwed the whole movie up.

All that character build up, all those sequences, EVERYTHING WASTED because of a shitty ending.
 
03-19-12, 9:57 AM

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I haven't read the novel so maybe that's why I thoroughly enjoyed this movie. I thought the ending was realistically well done. I mean think about it, you really wanted them to end up being together? The story is about unrequited love and the movie executed that aspect really well.

I think that the only flaw in the movie that might of detracted some enjoyment was the voice acting. It was pretty bad in some points, especially for the Princess.

Overall, I REALLY enjoyed this movie. I watched it going in with no expectations at all and I was left utterly impressed.
 
03-22-12, 5:17 AM

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An hour and a half and still not enough character depth. And the voice acting almost wholly butchered it. But that aside, I loved how she always says "Charuru". I also wanted an ending that favored the pilot, but it just made me feel bad. Not bittersweet, but really bad. And the animation especially the seascape scenery was lovely. Probably the only thing that made me keep watching.
 
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