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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- so what happened to the ship? did it just return to earth without anyone in it? and now that its gone, will the atmosphere stay put or will it disperse into space? and why didn't Al age? so many loose ends : ( glad mullin survived and got married :) wonder if all those kids were his of if some of them belonged to claus and lavie ;) also glad that she bought sleepyhead ;) it surprised me when they gave dio his memory back just long enough to kill him :( story felt truncated, battles were fought in ways that usually didn't make sense unless you assumed that the participants were morons, and far to many plot holes. still, it was a good series overall, just not one of the best i've ever seen. |
| I was wondering too, so what? Exile left by itself? To where? Why? Who actually made Exile and why? So happy when we saw Mullin :D , but then Dio's death was random...seriously. Just stupid. Overall a 8/10 from me. |
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| i got the impression that Exile was made by Earth. |
the_seventh_l said: WHO WROTE EPISODE 26, RUSSELL T DAVIES? >:3 lol |
| A few loose ends, but they were fitting. I found Dio's death relevant. Luciola died to protect him, and Dio died because he needs Luciola by his side. In the end, their friendship was everything to both of them. What a perfect ending. |
| Ah, see I was confused about the ending too for a little while, but my understanding is this (from various searching): At the end the Grand Stream disappears revealing the hourglass-shaped space station/colony. Think about it this way, where they were was like a 'space colony' or a giant, atmosphere regulated space station. The ship 'Last Exile' was the last ship left on the 'space station' which took those who boarded it to a planet. Hence at the end, Claus, Lavie and crew boarded 'Last Exile' and were taken to 'earth' or an earth like planet. Everyone else who you see stayed on the 'space colony'. The ships, including 'Last Exile' were built because the space station is of limited resources, so the population couldn't really continue to grow, and the people there, well I don't know what will eventually happen to them-- but that's why you see at the end, the people saying they'll miss Claus and Lavie (because Clause and Lavie are no longer on the space station while they are). Concerning Dio, there are hints that he didn't die, but went with Claus, Lavie et al on the ship; and I don't think those are Claus & Lavie's children, but other children who boarded the ship-- the reason Al doesn't seem to age is because she really hasn't. The time period of the ending scenes is within at most a year from the time 'Last Exile' left the space colony and shows Claus, Lavie and those who were on 'Last Exile' making a life for themselves on their new home planet. |
MessiOct 10, 2008 8:27 PM
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| Ok, I think I get what Messi says, but how, and when, did Mullen get there? I mean, the only thing left was to make him a grave if you think about it. He got shot on the torso, stayed there for a while and the girl left him inside and went out by herself to sit right away. The guy was dead! The daughter of the general was shown at her house at one point, and three minutes later at Last Exile -the ship. There were more children, and their parents. So, there must be something behind it... to settle on another world? ... Did they go to a brand new one, or where Last Exile was built? I mean, it was its first trip or the people on the planet they born were was also a colony? How much time pass between the end of the war and they leaving? They had enough to bring sleepyhead with them!? u.U that was just random. "Oh! Let's make the super duper happy ending beyond everyone's expectations. Yay!" HUH!? I'd bet the only child mullen and the girl had was the one on his shoulders, but, was that kid the only character who aged? Everyone else look the same all the time. And, last question. Did Dio actually die? It was so random too. There's nothing that even hint us that he's alive, but people think he is. He's not, that's my opinion. And, if I'm right, it wasn't because of the friendship he and Luciola had and he feeling lonely. He was just nuts! His mind took him to the time and place of te race, because it felt like that time when he saw them. Loose ends. It felt like it was meant to end when the Silvana was captured, but they extended it to give us such a final episode. It was ok... until the last 4, or 6. After that, cr4p. I think there's the possibility they ended on another planet, but not necessarily. They could miss them if they just were on the same one. Arrrg! I'm mad now. |
ElrondpJan 26, 2009 9:53 PM
// Hearts are wasted, lives are broken. |
binarycloud said: Ok... so Dio died pathetically. I thought the ending was perfect.... up until they decided to fit in a million different things at once.... Anyways, Dio survived. http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm269/YutakaKobayakawa/moe203196120sample.jpg Dio is shown on the left side of the image(only his hand and foot). But it should be pretty obvious that that is him. I also checked his wiki profile just to double check, and it says he survived... (which you can choose to believe or not).. But since he is shown in an official image, that should be enough to prove that he is still alive. |
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| The part where they found their father's vanship was fucking amazing. And so was this show. |
| Last Exile ended well enough IMO - it covered most of the important things (like ending the war and all). But it would have been nice if there was just one more episode so it didn't have to rush, and could have a bit more of an epilogue. Even just 10 more minutes probably would have helped quite a bit. My take on character fates: Dio - I don't see how it is possible for him to have survived, since he's a million feet in the air and got flung off a vanship in the biggest storm in the world. Since Dio was never mentioned again afterwards, I assumed he died. Tragic, yes, but that's how it goes sometimes. I thought it was both very sad and very fitting. Mullin - They obviously wanted to make us think he died when he got shot, but the creators were just pulling a fast one on us apparently. Mullin must have gotten medical attention fast enough and barely managed to survive. I'm guessing he was still stuck in bed, so he couldn't attend the funeral for Claus and Lavie's dads (which Dunya was at, to receive the message tube that Claus and Lavie's dads were going to bring to Disith). Alex's revenge on Delphine - Not the most ingenious kill, but hey, whatever works. I did find it terribly tragic how Sophia ended up (inadvertently) killing him, and how the communicator girl (forget her name) had to lie about what name Alex's dying breathes worded. the Last Exile - I'm assuming it's the space ship. It seemed to me that Claus, Lavie, and Alvis were somehow able to pilot it, so that anyone that wanted to go to Earth (or whatever planet it was) could come. Regarding the kids - at first I thought the scene was a distant flashforward and they were Mullin and Dunya's kids, but Alvis didn't age at all. So it seems that the kids are just - I don't know, a nephew and niece of Dunya's, or something. So nothing was really set in stone regarding romance at the end, but hey, Claus is still just 15, right? He's got plenty of time - Lavie and Tatiana are still around with him, so he can take his time deciding. =P (Or hey, Allister is there... and so is Alvis, who to my surprise is 11 years old [she looks 8 to me], so give her a few years, eh?) All in all I felt all the characters got fitting-enough conclusions, though I was always hoping to find out more about Alvis. She'll have to settle for just being adorable, I suppose. |
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| I don't really understand how the "official image" is proving anything..it's just an image. There was zero sign of him being alive in the final episode, I'm pretty sure that means we're suppose to know he's dead. I doubt they'd leave it down to a picture to let us know he's alive. |
| It's not just the official image. There was an interview in the Last Exile artbook that says Dio was picked up by a passing Guild ship in the Grand Stream after he fell out. |
| HAPPY END. It's great that Mullin survived but lol all of them living together felt kind of cheesy. The last episode could have been better but I liked the show overall and definitely one of the better GONZO shows around. 8/10 |
arsonal said: It's not just the official image. There was an interview in the Last Exile artbook that says Dio was picked up by a passing Guild ship in the Grand Stream after he fell out. And that's canon to the anime, manga, neither? Either way I find it a stupid way of telling us if he lived or died. |
| Wow, just so many loose ends to tie up. I was okay with Mullin's miraculous return but but what about the Exile? Where was it headed? And what the hell was that hour glass object? As for Dio who took up a significant amount of screen time, his death/disappearance was really pathetic to say the least..... |
| Well, ever since the first episode, the anime made no attempt to identify the "Last Exile" universe with names of places just being bombarded to us without even giving us a bearing of their location relative to one another. Closet thing to a map of the world is that of the Grand Stream but even that wouldn't make much sense. So yeah, I kinda lost interest in their world around mid way through the anime. Besides if you say were true, those flocks of bird (forgotten what they were) must have one hell of an endurance to be able to travel from one world to another and through the Grand Stream too if I might add... |
| Well for Dio i think point was so she would die in that screen. Bbut point was probably she did come back from whatever they made it into som mindles zombie. And remembered her frend. But she could survive on her own too probably after all her airplane didn't explode or whatever she could catch on. And prety soon safly get to ground since Grand Stream was eliminated at activation of Exile ship. For Mullin... most pepl don't yust die if you shoot them a bit and they bleed till they pass out. Mind thou the thing that tehy were asolting was on same big ship that they were on so help was probably there soon nad thouse survived. For how he came there so fast, well it was obviusly some time leeps in last sceens, probably some week or so. After all they bery the captain and make fly by. For original peace airplane of fathers... found ship. what i can amagine you don't yust stumble upon at first you enter and probably the one that found was those that stood beside them, and they are obviusly not in batle gear any more so some time pased and they had to fly to other side to investigate too althou path is now cleared from winds and storm. After that sceen i think most of pepl went on ship and left the space thing they were on for so much time. And all that is allredy back on earth. |
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| I was seriously bummed when Lucciola died, but when Dio died thinking that Lucciola was still there in the vanship with him until the end, I felt more at peace with their deaths..even though he was a gift, they became friends till the end. Regarding Alex, I thought it was awesome that he personally, by his own hands, killed Delphine.. I really thought he was going to be able to escape the guild ship in time, and it was really sad when it was by Sophia's command that he died, and how Mila (I think that's her name) lied about his last words to make Sophia feel better and more at peace with her decision to fire at the guild ship. Yeah there were a lot of loose ends, and Exile still confuses me a bit, but I loved the concept of this series, and the art style, and how the characters weren't all flat and one-dimensional. |
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| I really liked the show and would have given it a 9 except for the last episodes wish did seem a bit disjointed and rushed. The ending with Dio upset me the most from the rescue, to leaving him at the hospital, and him miraculously showing up in a vanship behind them. Everything else was great, so I'm just complaining about a part of the ending. Definitely worth watching! |
| Good Series Great Ending... 8/10 |
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| The ending was rushed a bit..maybe we still need a season 2 or OVA to clear things up.. about Dio..he died IMO.. 9/10 for the enjoyment.. |
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| I really liked last episode even though it didn't give me any, or some partial, answers to questions i have. I can live with it and probably will re-watch whole series one day. It's worth it. Overall enjoyment for the whole series - 9/10. |
| I finished this series about a year or so ago and I was never one confused by what Exile is or thought the ending had a lot of holes.... Anyway I want to clear up one thing about Exile though, did any of you actually read the description of it in the DVD insert? Oh right...I'm forgetting half of you likely got it illegally online, well whatever I'll quote it on here for you then. Exile is an immense interstellar spaceship build for transporting colonies of people. Its graceful design is based on the bodyline of the female figure. Originally, Exile was developed to transport people from Earth to Prester. From that time until its discovery, it had been sealed in the Grand Stream. All of its system functions are automated, requiring neither pilot nor directions to arrive at Prester. The system is programmed to only require the input of Alvis' activation code in order to return to Earth. Furthermore, after returning to Earth, Exile can travel to Prester and back again to Earth without any assistance. The body of Exile emits a protective field to shield it from elements such as cosmic dust, and unlike in its cocoon stage, it is not fitted with any special defense weaponry. It is thought that the two enormous wings are solar-sails which also act as heat radiators. So there you have it, that's why it was empty, 'cause it only needs Alvis' code and after that, it's completely automated. |
-Secret-May 23, 2010 6:24 AM
-Secret- said: I finished this series about a year or so ago and I was never one confused by what Exile is or thought the ending had a lot of holes.... Anyway I want to clear up one thing about Exile though, did any of you actually read the description of it in the DVD insert? Oh right...I'm forgetting half of you likely got it illegally online, well whatever I'll quote it on here for you then. Exile is an immense interstellar spaceship build for transporting colonies of people. Its graceful design is based on the bodyline of the female figure. Originally, Exile was developed to transport people from Earth to Prester. From that time until its discovery, it had been sealed in the Grand Stream. All of its system functions are automated, requiring neither pilot nor directions to arrive at Prester. The system is programmed to only require the input of Alvis' activation code in order to return to Earth. Furthermore, after returning to Earth, Exile can travel to Prester and back again to Earth without any assistance. The body of Exile emits a protective field to shield it from elements such as cosmic dust, and unlike in its cocoon stage, it is not fitted with any special defense weaponry. It is thought that the two enormous wings are solar-sails which also act as heat radiators. So there you have it, that's why it was empty, 'cause it only needs Alvis' code and after that, it's completely automated. Oh, wow. That little bit just answered so many of the questions that I had afterward. Thanks for posting that. Though, I believe that it would have been nice to have at least one more episode to help alleviate the rushing through of all the information that is thrown at you in the last ten minutes. |
Gangler said: Yes. TAMNI is the first story ever to portray the Roman Catholics in a negative light. This show destroyed the unblemished reputation of that church. Next on their list of good names to defame: Richard Nixon. |
| lol such confusing ending, i dont get if they were all taken back to earth by the Exile spaceship or the Exile spaceship is the only one that leaves and yes the Exile ship was made on earth first, its a intergalactic spaceship that travels to space finding world that can be a habitat for the human race and Alex death is a tragic one just when he was about to move on after he accomplish his revenge then later planning to love Sophia, the unaware Sophia fired a missile at him accidentally, what a waste of good love ending right there lol and Dio dang he became to dependent on Luciliolla and that causes his death overall good series, although im not gonna add it to my list lol because the animation could have been so much better imo, the drawing style and animation is too low quality for my list of good animated anime now im ready to wait and watch the second Last Exile |
| Think I'll actually rewatch this someday. Why is everyone so convinced that Moran Shetland died? Back at ep 23 I said I believed he was alive because they never actually Showed him dead. just bleeding I would more believe that Dio was dead, getting flung off his vanship like that I thought it was quite fitting his saying "was it because I told you to get off?" Poor thing. the child is Dunia's sibling and the others are just ppl who came to the "new world" Earth I say earth because they called it "the blue star" so that's gotta be us right so a bunch of ppl boarded Exile and went to the new world Alvis saw in her dream And since the dvd info said that Exile could make the trip again and again I'd think that more ppl from their original world would be able to come even if they werent on the first trip with Claus and they. |
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| I loved this series. Although the ending did feel a bit rush, with that evil lady dying in a simple and anti-climatic way, it was still great. I cant wait for the new series that is coming out. |
goblinlady said: A few loose ends, but they were fitting. I found Dio's death relevant. Luciola died to protect him, and Dio died because he needs Luciola by his side. In the end, their friendship was everything to both of them. What a perfect ending. Couldn't have said it better my self |
| Riveting is rosy, pockets full of posies, given to the mother of the deceased. Awaken at war, 'til I'm restin' in peace |
| 19:01. Look at Claus' Harem!!!! lol all this discussion and that is all I have to say. |
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| My view at this is that they all lived on the same planet, but it was separated in two sides by the grand stream, which was originated from the Last exile, which upon activation, cleared the skies, melted the ice and brought the rain (some sort of terraforming), and thus everyone stayed on the same planet but the planet was "fixed"... Watching the sequel will help a lot with some of the pending questions... |
| I don't expect justice. I expect revenge, even if it solves nothing in the end. I don't expect redemption. I expect decadence and self destruction. I don't expect compassion. I expect selfishness. I don't expect people making choices. I expect a cruel fate forced upon them. |
| Kinda wish Alex lived too. But we'll see if Gonzo brings him back from the dead. Alex and Sophia would make a nice couple. I enjoyed Last Exile till the end. I really had fun ride watching it from start to finish, but there's still things that doesn't make sense in the last episode. |
MagitoDec 4, 2011 3:48 AM
| I know some things doesn't make any sense but still it managed to bring sense of satisfaction and fulfillment for me. Kinda sad that Alex Row has to die and in the most dramatic way. Maestro Delphine's death was also simple but kinda lacking. And yes!! Mullen is still alive. I knew it. He got his own family now. So glad to see him again. Regarding the "Last Exile", I don't know if I understood it well but to be actually made from the blue star "Earth" is interesting. Overall, the series simply delivered the beauty of dreams and adventure. 8/10! |
StormViruz said: Maestro Delphine's death was also simple but kinda lacking. Ah, but I'm sure Alex found it far from lacking! :) |
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| Um.. Last Exile was a 10 for me but went down to a 9. Every episode was perfect until the end. I actually hated the ending. Way too many things unanswered. Dio's death was in vain. All this time building his character and relationship with Claus and everyone and he just dies alone, forgotten. Even Claus said he was a friend, but I guess not. Delphine's death was stupid. Was expecting something way more horrid after everything that bitch did. Alex.. I'm glad he died. Never liked that jerk. Good to see how the world is a better place now though.. But yeah I'm unsatisfied. |
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