| Lol ... Sora no Otoshimono not one of the best shonen actually ? Hey, guys, remember Ikaros beat the Karren/C.C. and other generic female mecha character in newtype 2010 ! :) |
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ichigo03 said: BlackRain_Ex said: When I wrote down those manga, I am going by how "good" the stories are.The world God Only Knows: YES Beelzebub: NO Sora no Otoshimono: NO Rosario + Vampire Season II: NO (Inner Moka becoming a damsel in distress was a letdown) To Love-Ru Darkness: NO (a lot better than the original TLR but not better than Negima. It's selling point is still fanservice and the harem plan hasn't been moving along) Only TWGOK is as good or better than Negima. Negima's story is NOT good at all, it makes no sense and has failed to accomplish it's objectives. We have 3 chapters left and yet there are many open ended questions that will probably never be answered. I understand that Negima is popular and it does have a good cast of characters, but strictly speaking about the plot....it has FAILED, big time! Whether or not R+V II, TLR Darkness, Sora no Otoshimono are likable or popular is NOT the point. The story for all those manga are cohesive, it's well put together, it combines ecchi and plot (Just like Negima) except they are doing it much better, at least I believe so. Negima IMO failed as a manga because it dragged on too long and the story became convoluted, there is no doubt about that. I like how I didn't even have to come back for other people to look at your list, find all of one series able to beat Negima (which I didn't even realize was Shonen) and call it bullshit. While I'm at it, if you honestly think Negima is complicated...I, don't know what to say. If you want to claim it's dragged out a bit, I won't argue that. But it is neither convoluted, nor complicated. Ken Akamatsu has created a fun, well-developed universe in Negima, and managed to develop nearly all of his gigantic cast. That you didn't like those developments and instead wanted it to be a piece of shit harem (because outside of like, Sekirei or Tenchi, that's all harem will ever be), isn't his fault. |
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ichigo03 said: I disagree, I have seen on various forums how R+V readers are enjoying the arc that the manga is currently on, not to mention that unlike the first season, there is a strong story right now, rather than random fights within the school. The story right now is that Moka has been kidnapped and the gang now has to face a group of individuals in a series of deus ex Machina fights. Basically the standard generic arc plot of every battle manga in existence. ichigo03 said: Although Negima was great in it's first few arcs, everything has completely shattered every since all the nonsense from the end of the Magic world arc. This is funny. I actually thought Negima was terrible up until the martial arts tournament arc. ichigo03 said: Well, if you remember at the beginning Negima was mostly fanservice with a thin plot, honestly it worked better that way. Now it's so convoluted I highly doubt that the majority of the readers can properly know just what the hell this manga is even about. It's subjective. I for one found Negima's old style to be tedious and boring. Convoluted? I never felt that. Air gear was convoluted. ichigo03 said: I won't argue with your opinion to like Negima, however I don't believe anyone can properly say that Negima is at it's best right now.....because it's not. I once thought Negima was an excellent manga which was very creative with great characters and artwork. Now when I think of Negima, I think of it as if it's on the same realm of Bleach and Naruto. That's not good....frankly, I'm very happy this is ending, before it completely ruins itself. Hell, I might still think of it as a "Good" manga if the ending is good.....although to be honest, I highly doubt that Ken can save this manga with just 3 chapters left :/ I can say that Negima now isn't at it's best. But to compare them to the likes of naruto and bleach is over exaggerating. Those mangas are completely devoid of any entertainment whatsoever. |
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ichigo03 said: Let me give you a list of Shounen series that are much better than Negima: The world God Only Knows Beelzebub Sora no Otoshimono Rosario + Vampire Season II To Love-Ru Darkness TWGOK - not a battle shounen Beelzebub - no, just no Sora no Otoshimono - didn't read it, is it worth reading it if i already seen anime? Also, not a battle shounen R+V II - while last chapters are good, i still don't think it is better, or ever will be better than Negima. To Love-Ru Darkness - again, not a battle shounen. Negima is a best battle shounen that a know, much better than Naruto, Bleach, or even One Piece, and it will be a shame if it ends now, not even concluding Negi's search for father. |
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| It is soooooo Kodansha! The same they did with Tsubasa... I think that afther the Magic World Arc, they ask Akamatsu to finish the manga... Anayway, three chapters for finish it it's just lame... It is not enough time to finish that amount of stories... I just hope Akamatsu being able to do it, even though it is hard indeed. |
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| WHY?? What about Nagi's arc.. DAMN.. Why did you end it Ken Akamatsu.. WHY.. :(( |
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ShiroiRyu said: Lol ... Sora no Otoshimono not one of the best shonen actually ? Hey, guys, remember Ikaros beat the Karren/C.C. and other generic female mecha character in newtype 2010 ! :) Yeah it is... SNO is really good, the only thing keeps it from having a great plot is half of the time The writer is in a joking mood and half not KageOokami said: ichigo03 said: Let me give you a list of Shounen series that are much better than Negima: The world God Only Knows Beelzebub Sora no Otoshimono Rosario + Vampire Season II To Love-Ru Darkness TWGOK - not a battle shounen Beelzebub - no, just no Sora no Otoshimono - didn't read it, is it worth reading it if i already seen anime? Also, not a battle shounen R+V II - while last chapters are good, i still don't think it is better, or ever will be better than Negima. To Love-Ru Darkness - again, not a battle shounen. Negima is a best battle shounen that a know, much better than Naruto, Bleach, or even One Piece, and it will be a shame if it ends now, not even concluding Negi's search for father. Negima > One Piece ? HELL NO. From what I can tell, it manages to be interesting even after so long, Negima has failed to do that |
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| This is really sad news. I am really hoping that there is going to be a Negima 2 of some sort. =( |
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| Wait wait what? Ok... Did Negi have sex with everyone and make their babies or something? hoping for Shaft animate it, then again they just do what they want |
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| Guess I better get caught up. |
GodlyKyon said: ShiroiRyu said: Lol ... Sora no Otoshimono not one of the best shonen actually ? Hey, guys, remember Ikaros beat the Karren/C.C. and other generic female mecha character in newtype 2010 ! :) Yeah it is... SNO is really good, the only thing keeps it from having a great plot is half of the time The writer is in a joking mood and half not KageOokami said: ichigo03 said: Let me give you a list of Shounen series that are much better than Negima: The world God Only Knows Beelzebub Sora no Otoshimono Rosario + Vampire Season II To Love-Ru Darkness TWGOK - not a battle shounen Beelzebub - no, just no Sora no Otoshimono - didn't read it, is it worth reading it if i already seen anime? Also, not a battle shounen R+V II - while last chapters are good, i still don't think it is better, or ever will be better than Negima. To Love-Ru Darkness - again, not a battle shounen. Negima is a best battle shounen that a know, much better than Naruto, Bleach, or even One Piece, and it will be a shame if it ends now, not even concluding Negi's search for father. Negima > One Piece ? HELL NO. From what I can tell, it manages to be interesting even after so long, Negima has failed to do that Gonna go ahead and disagree. While mentioning that I never liked One Piece in the first place. |
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| Im very sad to see that one of the best manga i have ever read is going to end which from what i read in this thread is very abruptly (since i read actual volumes that come out in english) GodlyKyon said: Negima > One Piece ? HELL NO. From what I can tell, it manages to be interesting even after so long, Negima has failed to do that One Piece is horrible almost everything is better then it |
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| Well, color me disappointed... I actually put this series on hold for a long while (haven't read since chapter 237 was released a few years ago), but I was really looking forward to getting back into it again and started rereading it today. I am sad to see that it'll be ending so soon... |
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| I would like to pass on a sentiment as a writer to a bunch of fans. I can't say whether Negima is good or not, because once more, I didn't get that far into it to really be the judge, but that notwithstanding, one of the most important things for a series is its ending. People can say that something is too long, or too short, but as long as it's ending comes at the right time, neither of those statements are applicable. In case its not clear I'll streamline what I'm saying. If you really love the series, or any series for that matter, stop hoping it will go on longer than it needs to. If the mangaka wants to end it, give your congratulatory clap and say "It was a good read" or what have you. By saying you want it to go on, you're essentially saying "I don't care what you have to do, make it longer!" |
Damonashu said: I would like to pass on a sentiment as a writer to a bunch of fans. I can't say whether Negima is good or not, because once more, I didn't get that far into it to really be the judge, but that notwithstanding, one of the most important things for a series is its ending. People can say that something is too long, or too short, but as long as it's ending comes at the right time, neither of those statements are applicable. In case its not clear I'll streamline what I'm saying. If you really love the series, or any series for that matter, stop hoping it will go on longer than it needs to. If the mangaka wants to end it, give your congratulatory clap and say "It was a good read" or what have you. By saying you want it to go on, you're essentially saying "I don't care what you have to do, make it longer!" While that's definitely true I think a big part of the issue is that this announcement comes right in the middle of the party taking on a large-scale quest to save the world which until just within these last few weeks looked like it was gonna be an entire story arc. Plus the main quest that has been driving the protagonist since the very first chapter still hasn't been given any sort of closure. While I'd be upset to see it end if the major plot points had been wrapped I'd also appreciate it from a narrative perspective. This right now doesn't feel like a conclusion though. It just feels like the story is stopping. |
Gangler said: Then without argument, I will withdraw my statement.Damonashu said: I would like to pass on a sentiment as a writer to a bunch of fans. I can't say whether Negima is good or not, because once more, I didn't get that far into it to really be the judge, but that notwithstanding, one of the most important things for a series is its ending. People can say that something is too long, or too short, but as long as it's ending comes at the right time, neither of those statements are applicable. In case its not clear I'll streamline what I'm saying. If you really love the series, or any series for that matter, stop hoping it will go on longer than it needs to. If the mangaka wants to end it, give your congratulatory clap and say "It was a good read" or what have you. By saying you want it to go on, you're essentially saying "I don't care what you have to do, make it longer!" While that's definitely true I think a big part of the issue is that this announcement comes right in the middle of the party taking on a large-scale quest to save the world which until just within these last few weeks looked like it was gonna be an entire story arc. Plus the main quest that has been driving the protagonist since the very first chapter still hasn't been given any sort of closure. While I'd be upset to see it end if the major plot points had been wrapped I'd also appreciate it from a narrative perspective. This right now doesn't feel like a conclusion though. It just feels like the story is stopping. |
| So in the end,Chao returns,stops time,kills everyone and rule the world! Boy how I wish that would happen Or maybe Zazei is the one that'll do it. |
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| I haven't read it in a while but the ending better not feel incomplete, like the anime. |
| Oh well. All good things must pass. Only Bleach will go on until the heat death of the universe. At least, this grants us a slight chance of a proper anime adaptation. This manga is a goldmine, yet producers spared no effort in getting it to waste. Got to catch up sooner with re-reading this. |
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| How disappointing.. |
EyyeFeb 12, 2012 7:55 AM
| Etna - So I kicked him in the... you know... Flonne - Umm. No, where? Prinny - Heres a clue, it's a mans soul. Prinny - He lost his soul and was cursed to live as a woman. |
| Well, All Good Things Come to an End. (However, it doesn't seem like One piece and Naruto are ending. Damn it, Bleach is already annoucing it's final arc which will probably drag, follow through!) |
| Aww... That sucks. |
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| looks like i'll have to rely on TLR Darkness for a true harem ending. really hoping for a NegixEva ending and Chao as their great...grandchild. |
| I hope its a sad ending where Asuna travels back in time but goes to far back and is stuck there for 100 years, then dies lonely looking for her friends. |
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| Ya.. First thing is Negi start his journey to looking for his parent's .. and he didnt find it though.. Akamatsu Ken-sensei.. i hope he make another sequel of his manga and anime .. story tells about High school students and In the end negi find his parents that's the best ending in think.. and still.. there's so many mystery for this manga and anime >,< |
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| I would rather have Negi travel endlessless and die failing to find his parents! |
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| So it's come to an end... |
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Misel_chan said: Ya.. First thing is Negi start his journey to looking for his parent's .. and he didnt find it though.. Akamatsu Ken-sensei.. i hope he make another sequel of his manga and anime .. story tells about High school students and In the end negi find his parents that's the best ending in think.. and still.. there's so many mystery for this manga and anime >,< Let's hope so. |
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game8910 said: I am NOT okay with this.... Are you seriously just going to end it like this Akamatsu? There are so many PLOTHOLES left in this series you could bury the entire One Piece, Ippo, Conan, and Kochikame collections in there. Well fuck it...unless you are the human embodiment of literature and arts I highly doubt this 3 chapter conclusion will be convincing. my thoughts exactly, this kind of ending isn't satisfying.. |
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| i wish they would have said who negi ended up with also they left out anna. i loved this series but this ending was a hella weak. we see nagi at the end but what about his mother. |
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| That disappointing moment when you realize one of your favourite mangas is coming to an end. |
| Just read the last chapter... really really weak, left a lot of things hanging unfinished... even the chapter itself seemed like it needed a few more pages, very disappointed with this |
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bakayarokonoyaro said: That disappointing moment when you realize one of your favourite mangas is coming to an end. More like when it gets a shitty ending. It didn't cause disappointment, it caused RAGE. Yeah, this didn't even show what happened to Negi and who he ended up with, or is SUPER ambigous with it. Essentially, this was a waste of time. |
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| this ending was terrible, how could you end a manga that you spent 9 years making like this? honestly chapter 354 would have made a better ending than this im raging but this was a good manga overall. o well im just gonna pretend that all the things i wanted to happen did |
daikafoeMar 17, 2012 12:45 AM
| Well, they left it ambiguous. But if you look at their positions. at back [Fate] [Negi] at front [Asuna] [Inchou] I am assuming Inchou (Ayaka) got married to Negi, as I don't like Asuna. And to their positions, this is the conclusion I could make. It also says that she stays on the side behind Negi. Can't wait for the next work, Akamatsu-sensei! |
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