Why Yaoi doesn't get any backlash?

Maybe due to the specifics of the genre itself.

I'd say these tropes are more prevalent in the older series. Someone above has recommended Given, and I support it. A pretty good BL specimen, as far as anime series go, which is rare. I'm sure there are tons of manga series out there that don't have such tropes, and most of BL visual novels I've played didn't have such tropes either. I guess it's just a matter of luck.

Anyway, I've said "Yamete Kudasai" myself in real life during several sexual encounters, and I obviously didn't want anyone to stop - I was just a bit shy, and something akin to "no, stop" was just my defense mechanism while I adjusted in that particular instance. If the other guy actually stopped, it'd ruin the moment! If I'd actually wanted someone to stop, my behavior would be a lot more different. Therefore, I think people overdramatize this aspect too much, and in a lot of cases this trope isn't as malicious as people make it out to be, even though it definitely can get annoying when overused, at the very least.


Men's well-being, regardless of their sexual orientation, isn't exactly on SJWs' priority list, to put it mildly, so I don't know why they'd care about so-called "problematic" BL genre tropes in particular all that much or attempt to "fix" them, but they definitely wouldn't pass a chance to call for cancelling some "inappropriate" BL artist they choose as a target, who doesn't fit the narrative they're trying to weave in some way. I remember seeing such attempts at least a couple of times, but I don't know if they were successful. That said, every time I encounter some BL manga smut that isn't too "vanilla" and randomly check comments, there are always some people being hysterical: "Oh no, rape! Oh no, age gap! Oh no, a guy said too many bad words to the other guy! It's the end of the world! Author should be ashamed, you should all be ashamed for reading it, wah wah!" and all that. I don't know if they'd count as SJWs or simply "concerned citizens" that look for kinky porn to complain about, but I'd say that yaoi definitely gets at least some backlash and on multiple fronts (and it doesn't apply only to smut). Maybe it's just not as visible because it's more off the radar in general?
In any case, I'd only welcome more natural depictions of relationships in BL, but I can enjoy different tropes as well, as long as they aren't extremely overused in an annoying way. And no rigid control over content or censorship, please, since it's a recipe for disaster.

Yaoi in general is mostly shit. Good BL is quite hard to find unfortunately. It not getting backlash is probably partially due to it being risky to criticize due to current trends, and also that its usually so shit that people don't even bother to criticize it, since it had no potential to begin with.


I recommend Mo Dao Zu Shi for an example of how to do yaoi right - with great art, great story, and good romantic vibes that actually make you root for the bros

Because nowadays it's considered political incorrect to criticize anything LGBTQ related, anyone who does will be shunned and get their reputation ruined.

@-YaoiBoy-

There is nothing inherently wrong with BL as a genre. I am just saying it is very hard to distinguish whether BL work is meant to be genuine romance or straight poorly written smut. Works like Junjou Romantica include a lot of sexual violence in them to titillate the audience, it is very obviously smut that has overarching plot in it but categorising it as 'Shonen Ai' in Myanimelist gives people wrong impression about it

I've read people complaining about it online before, but mostly from disappointed readers. I'm not on social media like twitter so I don't follow what the weird people there are trying to cancel but, wouldn't it mostly be about the mainstream airing anime? They probably do it all for attention so there wouldn't much benefits complaining about old niche stuff.

Also, those old rapey yaoi were mostly writing by straight women for straight women. It's a fetish thing. It is nothing more than a gross misrepresentation so there's no use blaming the LGBT.

Not true, there have been plenty of times I've come across LGBT people defending these things and not allowing anyone to criticize it. Just 2 days ago some bi dude got mad at me on reddit when I commented how toxic the relationship was and he kept on insisting that "it's representation". Some years back when someone had created a thread on MAL asking people why they don't like BL and I mentioned the rapey tropes a gay guy called me a lunatic.

There are plenty of times I've come across comments like these from LGBT people

Not true, there have been plenty of times I've come across LGBT people defending these things and not allowing anyone to criticize it. Just 2 days ago some bi dude got mad at me on reddit when I commented how toxic the relationship was and he kept on insisting that "it's representation". Some years back when someone had created a thread on MAL asking people why they don't like BL and I mentioned the rapey tropes a gay guy called me a lunatic.

There are plenty of times I've come across comments like these from LGBT people

@Zarutaku

The LGBT community itself (I don't know the rest of the acronym) criticizes and persecutes works with BL or "supposed trans" (traps), BL is constantly attacked for not being "politically correct" according to the LGBT community.

@Absurdo_N alright good to know and just in case it wasn't obvious: I was deliberately exaggerating to spice up the debate a bit.
However I'll still ask this: If an outsider criticizes something LGBT related and the community heavily disagrees with it, would my statement be accurate then?

OP are you a dunce? Go look at any yaoi anime discussion and you see chuds bitching about them because they can't get their dick wet to it. And all those things you mentioned get backlash as well, plenty of people think of the common yaoi tropes as problematic. If you don't believe me, tweet something positive about killing stalking and you'll see what I mean.

Yaoi in general is mostly shit. Good BL is quite hard to find unfortunately. It not getting backlash is probably partially due to it being risky to criticize due to current trends, and also that its usually so shit that people don't even bother to criticize it, since it had no potential to begin with.


I recommend Mo Dao Zu Shi for an example of how to do yaoi right - with great art, great story, and good romantic vibes that actually make you root for the bros

@Adnash

"It'd be weird to hate gay couples and be into Yaoi stuff"

I've seen more than one homophobic fujoshi. Being fujoshi doesn't mean supporting gays (I know, hypocritical), it's like guys who enjoy lesbian porn and are homophobic towards lesbians.

Many fujoshi want to see handsome guys having erotic relationships, they don't want to see a "real" representation of a gay man... But remember, not all fujoshi are like this.

@BirdyTheMighty

I will try it, thanks for the recommendation

@-YaoiBoy-

There is nothing inherently wrong with BL as a genre. I am just saying it is very hard to distinguish whether BL work is meant to be genuine romance or straight poorly written smut. Works like Junjou Romantica include a lot of sexual violence in them to titillate the audience, it is very obviously smut that has overarching plot in it but categorising it as 'Shonen Ai' in Myanimelist gives people wrong impression about it

1. They're hypocrites.
2. They always feel the need to butt into other people's tastes while fans of other genres do not do the opposite. I personally don't care about yaoi/BL whatsoever (straight guy) and my answer has always been "you do you".
3. The whole trendchasing mentality for LGBTetc. that's currently immensely popular in the USA also factors in a lot. Homosexuality is now considered trendy and fashionable and not a deeply personal thing like it always used to be.