What's your main source of anime?
| What's your main source of anime?.. |
| My main source is both legal and illegal sites, and a little bit of tv. |
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| Legal and pirate/illegal sites, like Crunchyroll and formerly Animixplay |
 "You fought to the end. You survived. That's why you're here now. I think that's something you should be more proud of." - Vladilena Milizé |
| nyaa and pirate streams, never paid for any legal streaming sevice for anything after stopped watching TV pero~ |
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| Usually both legal and illegal sites. |
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| im broke, so i depend on pirated stuff mostly |
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| Blu-rays The superior viewing experience, plus you support the creators. |
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| Perpetually Crunchyroll, HiDive on a month to month basis. Netflix or Hulu occasionally. Will buy blu rays of less popular titles if I enjoyed them as a way to show support & hopefully encourage another season, or at least have access to them in case the streaming service purges them. |
OhayotakuMay 30, 2023 6:53 AM
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| Torrents, although I had a Funimation account for a long time which allowed me to watch anime on my Nintendo Switch ^_^ Nowadays, I sometimes watch stuff on Crunchyroll on my Switch as well. |
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| Previously, illegal and rarely legal. Now, permanently moved to torrents. Moving to torrents was the best decision I've ever made. |
TsumaRioMay 30, 2023 8:51 AM
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| I've been advised not to speak on this topic (torrents) |
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| basically just 9anime: it has the best comment section I've found, not to mention the "skip opening/ending" feature and the yellow tag on filler episodes. The only complaint I have is that they're missing a dozen of episodes of Bailian Feisheng |
| a combination of legal streaming and torrents, though recently i had less need to torrent. objectively, Japanese blurays offer the best possible quality. Sentai blurays, however, are said to offer the same quality as the TV version, and in some cases, you can't even turn off the subtitles, making it actually worse than paid legal streaming. on the other hand, you get a sense of ownership, so there is that. |
DreamingBeatsMay 30, 2023 8:44 AM
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
| About evenly split between legal, illegal and dvd. DVD's just barely etch out a victory. |
| My waifu is the most wonderful waifu. Mai Valentine. We're freaking out that we're running out of time, but to do what? Should i stop and think of that? Is there something i could do to slow it down? Live in a day for once, instead of watch it sprinting by |
| As I've stated somewhere before, watching anime by legal means is highly inmoral. RentNoGirlfriend said: I salute you. That was actually revolutionary.basically just 9anime: it has the best comment section I've found, not to mention the "skip opening/ending" feature and the yellow tag on filler episodes. |
 The days have gone down in the West behind the hills into shadow. |
| Broke + need better footage than streams for Youtube Videos = Torrents |
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DreamingBeats said: That's why I don't really buy Sentai blu-rays, mostly Cr, AoA, or Viz. objectively, Japanese blurays offer the best possible quality. Sentai blurays, however, are said to offer the same quality as the TV version, and in some cases, you can't even turn off the subtitles, making it actually worse than paid legal streaming. on the other hand, you get a sense of ownership, so there is that. rsc-pl said: Buying AoA blu-rays is basically like buying JP blu-rays. They are basically the same company after all.Yeah. But only if you buy original Japanese releases. Buying western releases is like paying for streams. And you finance the shitty dubs on the top of it. Moreover the subs in official blurays are often even worse and more altered than simulcast subs. And quality vise original Japanese blurays are way better too. Unless buying from the actual Japanese producers doesn't support the creators according to you? Also, never heard of the subs being more "altered", last time I checked, they are the same as the simulcast subs. |
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Cronosmu said: At least one person would want you in jail for this line of thought. Good thing they're just randos on internet :DAs I've stated somewhere before, watching anime by legal means is highly inmoral. |
| BDs in the form of torrents. the best possible quality indeed. |
 The end of an era. Thank you Wit, Mappa and Isayama. Feeling half happy, half sad. Kawaii waifus and precious best girls <3333 |
| Torrents and unofficial streaming sites, but I also own some BluRays. Btw can we abolish the term illegal streaming? It's not even illegal in most countries. |
| Pretty much exclusively torrents. |
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| by the by, from what i read the official bluray of dragon ball super had a green tint due to manufacturer defect. to watch the corrected version, you have to pirate or buy the revised bluray version. palm-tree said: Pretty much exclusively torrents. nyaa or naah. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
Tiosar said: What's your main source of anime?.. I am old school and been collecting Anime on physical copies since "Akira" was released in the west on VHS. While I have recently acclimated to using some streaming services like Netflix, Hidive, Crunchyroll, etc... I am usually patient enough to wait for a Series I am really interested in to be completed and pressed for physical release. If you are use to quality and fidelity and can afford it, it's not worth it to consume an entire Anime series in any other manner. Plus you end up appreciating the Anime more. Having the ownership of physically owning the right of the copy of said Anime feels good to collect. This is something that no streaming service legal or not can ever offer. |
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| @ColourWheel Frankly, it's true with pretty much anything and one of the main reason I find it nauseating how everything is getting transformed into "services" nowadays. As things are, I don't even "own" video-games I purchase, instead I'm getting a "license to play". It won't surprise me if in not so distant future people will drive rented electric cars instead of owning their own vehicles. |
Tiosar said: @ColourWheel Frankly, it's true with pretty much anything and one of the main reason I find it nauseating how everything is getting transformed into "services" nowadays. As things are, I don't even "own" video-games I purchase, instead I'm getting a "license to play". It won't surprise me if in not so distant future people will drive rented electric cars instead of owning their own vehicles. Even in Japan people there still mostly buy Anime on physical copies. Partly one reason why new Anime on physical discs is more expensive these days is simply because people in the West stop buying them. As for cars, people already rent cars. It's called leasing. I have leased a car before in the past for 4 years but the difference is one is usually given the option to buy it at it's current valued price once the lease ends. Until a new physical format comes out that would potentially replace digital streaming making it obsolete, this culture we have of "renting" digital media will continue. I just hope that if some new revolutionary format ever does comes out that it would ultimately address piracy too making an incentive for fans to acclimate to it. Like making it so revolutionary that torrents and streaming services legal or otherwise would be put on the same level as betamax. |
ColourWheelMay 30, 2023 11:43 AM
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| Pretty sure it all comes from China or Taiwan or something idk |
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| Pretty much torrents and illegal site (AnimePahe). |
| @ColourWheel that kind of new convenient format doesn't seem likely given that: - People from poor countries won't be buying things regardless whether they can pirate them or not. Especially so if you need to pay for shipping. - Pirated copies of video-games, for example, are more valuable than official ones, e.g. even though I own my favorite games on Steam, I still store pirated copies locally because unlike Steam or any other similar service which can go bankrupt or modify the product without my consent, cracked games are safe from external influence. Anime is in similar case with streaming platforms. So this new format would need to be both cheap and accessible while providing some kind of value which current official releases don't have. |
| All of them... I've been watching anime for 26 years so I had plenty of time to try them all.. |
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Tiosar said: What's your main source of anime?.. May be one day you will be transparent enough to show us your browser history so we can see what's your main source of anime |
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Tiosar said: @ColourWheel that kind of new convenient format doesn't seem likely given that: - People from poor countries won't be buying things regardless whether they can pirate them or not. Especially so if you need to pay for shipping. - Pirated copies of video-games, for example, are more valuable than official ones, e.g. even though I own my favorite games on Steam, I still store pirated copies locally because unlike Steam or any other similar service which can go bankrupt or modify the product without my consent, cracked games are safe from external influence. Anime is in similar case with streaming platforms. So this new format would need to be both cheap and accessible while providing some kind of value which current official releases don't have. I will break this down for you so I don't unintentionally take things out of context. Tiosar said: - People from poor countries won't be buying things regardless whether they can pirate them or not. Especially so if you need to pay for shipping. If someone was never paying for anything to begin with why should anyone really care? You think Anime is some human right? As harsh as it might be, I don't believe media entertainment is a some type of necessity that everyone should be entitled to. Even back when Anime started Airing on Cartoon Network not every Anime was available for western consumption either. Maybe a community program could be set up and easily funded for people too poor to pay for Anime, TV, and movies, etc... to gather together and enjoy media entertainment. But Typically if someone already has private access to high speed internet, TV, and even their own computer, That's not poor at all to me. These type of people are already better off then some who are starving having trouble to simply get enough food in their belly for a full day. Some people are too poor to own a car. Should we start just simply handing them out for free too? I am sure the car industry would totally love that. Or better yet you are an owner of a Company that provides a service or product. But people are complaining they are just too poor to buy it. Maybe you would be so kind and just hand out your services and products for free. While I respect your opinion, I just don't buy the too poor argument. Tiosar said: So this new format would need to be both cheap and accessible while providing some kind of value which current official releases don't have. Revolutionary technology is never out of scope. Back in the 80s a top tier video game for the Nintendo Entertainment System cost roughly around $50 in USDs (That type of buying power back then is equivalent to about $184 in USDs today). I never thought in my life I would ever be able to play an 8-bit Nintendo video game simply on a piece of paper using a card reader back in the early 2000s on a hand held game system of all things that I could fit in my pocket. Granted this idea didn't last long but those games only cost $2.50 USDs each back then. Eventually something extremely revolutionary will be created that will replace everything that we currently use and know and be affordable. Who knows how long it will take but it will eventually happen. |
ColourWheelMay 30, 2023 2:07 PM
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| My primary source is torrrents, secondary source is illegal streaming sites, and tertiary source is Blu-ray. The vast majority of anime aren't legally available, so there's no choice but pirating them. Of the anime that are legally available, most aren't worth buying on Blu-ray, which is why I pirate them too. I only buy anime on Blu-ray if it's available to buy on Blu-ray, I like it enough to warrant buying it on Blu-ray, the Blu-ray release is of good quality, and it's affordable enough. If the anime doesn't meet those criteria, I'd pirate it. I used to use legal streaming sites too, but not anymore. Streaming is dead. |
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Tiosar said: @ColourWheel Frankly, it's true with pretty much anything and one of the main reason I find it nauseating how everything is getting transformed into "services" nowadays. As things are, I don't even "own" video-games I purchase, instead I'm getting a "license to play". It won't surprise me if in not so distant future people will drive rented electric cars instead of owning their own vehicles. Yeah, it's unfortunate to see we're moving towards a rent-based model for almost everything. Sad as it is, however, it's hardly surprising. It was expected, really, that's just capitalism at work. Capitalism will continue to chip away personal property rights, the only property rights it defends are private property rights. |
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Badonkers said: Previously, illegal and rarely legal. Now, permanently moved to torrents. Moving to torrents was the best decision I've ever made. yeah same it kinda made me an elitist in a way yo even seeing the tiniest artifacts on streaming sites is just so infuriating, i straight up just sort by largest size almost every time on THAT website to make sure its the best image and audio quality i mean once u get used to a certain standard the littelest things just get so annoying oh and also no way in hell id have the ability to pay anyway i have no disposable income sure when i get a sensible job ill happily get my hands on some blurays, OSTs and figurines but now nah i am not in that position, like i literally cant afford it to watch it legal and im not gonna give up the little that i have haha what im saying is pretty unconvincing though with the fact that actually the illegal way is the most convenient in many ways i mean its the corporate fault theyre all fucking with the licensing they dont understand that the internet is actually global and we should stop with all that region lock shit and wack ass services they should work together to build something worldwide and most accessible to all |
elgatosaikaMay 30, 2023 3:04 PM
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| @ColourWheel In my opinion comparing digital and physical products is incorrect and as far as I'm concerned the industry and its relationship with customers would be healthier if it relied on goodwill of the latter. My favorite video-game series goes for around $40 per game, but I wouldn't mind paying even $200 for one, which I actually do - by purchasing all DLC, avoiding sales and buying physical merchandize. I still store pirated versions for the reasons mentioned in my previous post, though. That is to say, I have no incentive to give developers/publishers any of my money, but I still do so in order to show them my gratitude and desire to see more of what they do. However, if someone who can't afford to buy even one game pirates it and enjoys it - that's a win in my book since there is more joy in the world as a result. The company doesn't lose anything as well, because unlike physical goods, making copies of digital information requires no materials, labor or logistics. Your assessment of peoples' finances doesn't make much sense to me either. Where I live it at unlimited 100 mb/sec internet costs around $2.5 per month, that's less than even Crunchyroll subscription, let alone video-games, music discs, anime DVDs, etc. Similarly, for around $500 you can get yourself a decent PC which will serve you for several years, maybe a decade. Heck, the laptop I bought in 2011 is still in working condition and can be used to browse internet, watch anime and play simple video-games. By the logic you described if someone finds a way to "copy" food and medicine it shouldn't be used to feed and cure the poor because food/pharmaceutical companies might experience some sales loss. For the technological aspect, we'll see. I just hope corporations will think in terms of innovation and user convenience rather than forcing everyone in a cybergulag or intentionally crippling their product (like adding DRM, for example, which in the end only ended up harming legal users). |
| Crunchyroll here in Germany sucks. Why would I have to pay the same amount of money as someone from the US if I can only watch 20% of the shows they can? Torrenting is the way! |
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| Mostly illegal but in the past year i've been watching anime on yt exponentially more. Not sure whether that counts as legal site or not coz there are shows (mostly old ones) that aren't uploaded by official streaming platforms as well. |
| Ill stick to the three main anime only streaming sites = Crunchyroll , Funimation, HiDive I just use Crunchyroll at the moment. I used to have Funimation, but since all the animes there are moving to Crunchyroll, I no longer have Funimation. I used to have HiDive, but im not subscribing to HiDive just for seasonal animes (given, I will admit, HiDive hit the jackpot this Spring 2023 with "My Star" and "The Dangers in My Heart" ). I cant believe Crunchyroll didnt acquire those two animes this Spring 2023 season. I used to have HiDive also because it also had some animes that interested me, but once I saw those animes, I no longer saw the need to resubscribe to HiDive anymore. And also, many of the animes on HiDive are also on Crunchyroll. With that said, HiDive is very affordable at the moment with their yearly prices, so I might resubscribe. |
| @Tiosar I will start off with this, digital information might not require physical materials other than the servers but this does not apply to labor or logistics when we are talking about Anime. You got the cost of maintaining the servers as well as keeping them running and you are forgetting about licensing and human resources. The Anime they offer they do not own them and they do not have the right to distribute after their license runs out. licensing Anime can get extremely expensive. I am sure there is way more to this but I am not about to go off and talk about details I know nothing about. But I wish my internet only cost $2.5 per month. Though I am paying over $80 a month for 1,200 Mbps plus I get cable TV and Phone service. Even so the basic subscription to Crunchyroll is like $8 a month for access to their entire library (it's a pretty huge library). Even Hidive is only $4 a month but I am usually more interested in the new Anime they are offer than the stuff on Crunchyroll and Hidive has got a way smaller library. Either way most Anime released before a certain time period I already own on official physical copies anyways or I will eventually buy them in the future. Contrary to belief not even all Anime is offered even to the Japanese audience on their own national platforms and TV. The only way to get some of the stuff that doesn't air there is through physical copies and 3rd party streaming services that sometimes offer an even a smaller library than Hidive. As ironic as it may seem there is even some Anime Outlawed in Japan of all places. The thing is nothing has ever been for free. As an example the only reason people have been able to watch TV programs since it's inception without paying was because Cooperation's and Business's were paying the expense for us by buying commercial time. When dealing with capitalism there is no such thing as pure goodwill. Even with promotionals what would seem like to a consumer just free merchandise is already factored in as an advertisement cost and done to spread their name in hopes to get people interested in buying their products in the future. Even most non-profit organizations have business models that are no different than how any regular business operates where money changes hands and the people at the top will always get the larger share. Don't get me wrong there is a lot of things flawed with capitalism but it's the only working system we currently got that still inspires free trade. Any other system would further limit imports and exports where likely Anime would be even more limited in most western nations around the globe than it is now. |
ColourWheelMay 30, 2023 5:58 PM
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Remember the days when Home Video was both Expensive AND Techno-Sexy?!? No?!? Too Bad for You...    .JPG?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) .jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) .jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) |
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| I'm practically always watching downloaded stuff. I will buy disks, but the purpose is basically just to legitimately own and pay for things, in practice they just sit on a shelf. ColourWheel said: As an example the only reason people have been able to watch TV programs since it's inception without paying was because Cooperation's and Business's were paying the expense for us by buying commercial time. I think you'll find that the BBC was right there at the birth of broadcast television. ITV didn't launch until 1955. The US is not the world. Don't get me wrong there is a lot of things flawed with capitalism but it's the only working system we currently got that still inspires free trade. You don't really need to give capitalists control over labour in order to trade. Worker-controlled economies would also want to trade, and you don't have to tax ordinary workers to maintain a ruling class in grotesque luxury. Indeed if the workers of the world could unite and dispose of the capitalists, you might not even need export or import controls any more. |
logopolisMay 31, 2023 6:44 AM
| @logopolis OK excluding TV that is paid for by the government it's basically the equivalent of the Public Broadcasting Service. Either way this is still not free entertainment. logopolis said: You don't really need to give capitalists control over labour in order to trade. Worker-controlled economies would also want to trade, and you don't have to tax ordinary workers to maintain a ruling class in grotesque luxury. Ideally yes worker-controlled economies would like to trade but in practice you would be hard pressed to find a large nation using such a system that works where they will import and export things outside of their own ecosystem to the level of free trade done with capitalism. Even a self governing nation could work if the community is small enough. Even so if suddenly a large nation just switched to something like this over night you would most likely find a lot of corporations and companies just migrate to other nations where they can maintain their ruling class in grotesque luxury. This would make things more expensive for the people there because they would then need to import things they use to be able to get domestically. |
ColourWheelMay 31, 2023 7:19 AM
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ColourWheel said: Even so if suddenly a large nation just switched to something like this over night you would most likely find a lot of corporations and companies just migrate to other nations where they can maintain their ruling class in grotesque luxury. It's not corporations who make things. It's factories and offices and the people who work in them and their knowhow which make things. You can't just pick these up and take them to another country, particularly overnight. Although that said, the ability of the ruling class to exploit international borders is a big part of their stranglehold, which is why it's "workers of the world, unite!" rather than "workers of each country, unite!" If ordinary people want true democracy and a better life, we need to be international about it, it requires organisations in many countries working together. |
logopolis said: It's not corporations who make things. It's factories and offices and the people who work in them and their knowhow which make things. You can't just pick these up and take them to another country, particularly overnight. Yes of course it's the people who do the work. But an owner of a company can surely shutdown things over night. They might not be able to start operations immediately right after moving to another nation but inevitably they would just train and hire new people and start the cycle all over again. logopolis said: Although that said, the ability of the ruling class to exploit international borders is a big part of their stranglehold, which is why it's "workers of the world, unite!" rather than "workers of each country, unite!" If ordinary people want true democracy and a better life, we need to be international about it, it requires organisations in many countries working together. What you are inspiring to is nothing more than idealism because you can't point to an instance where a worker-controlled economy has worked on a large scale and it's never been done before either. Even if something like this came to fruition it would likely become just as flawed as capitalism or maybe even worse. Where eventually problems arise and ways to exploit the new system would be found. No large Nation in the world will simply burn their entire system down just to test something new and see how it works. Expecting the entire world to do this at the same time is even less realistic. |
ColourWheelMay 31, 2023 8:25 AM
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ColourWheel said: Yes of course it's the people who do the work. But an owner of a company can surely shutdown things over night. Only if people obey them, or the state enforces their will. What you are inspiring to is nothing more than idealism because you can't point to an instance where a worker-controlled economy has worked on a large scale and it's never been done before either. Everything had never been done before, until it was done for the first time. |
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