| This is a list in addition to a recently removed topic. funimation ( there are still few shows in some languages that are still free with ads)(not in the future duo to combination of Crunchyroll and funimation) tubi ( not the best collection in the world but has some decent new(at last from 10 years ago)and many retro ones) (available in Canada and USA) retro crush / Asian crush ( both have some similar titles but both of them usually don't have newer shows (personally watched GTO and OTAKU no VIDEO on these)(available in USA(not sure about Canada)) bilibili (not sure that it is legal or not(still))(available in Vietnam china and Singapore(as long as i know))(got some new and old ones) Adult swim(very little animes (watched flcl))(available in USA ) |
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| TMS Entertainent has made some of their 70s series available on their youtube channel with a bunch of different dubs. It's their channel so I assume it's legal. |
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| still don't have an idea where should i have posted this! also youtube (sailor moon with ads is available and others) |
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| You can also watch Death Note, Naruto, and others for free on Youtube thanks to Viz. ateks said: So the creators are getting ripped off????????Who the fuck cares about legality it's not like the creators get any of your money anyway. You corporate shills are fucking annoying. Just use 9anime and nyaa like everyone else. I always knew not to trust Rui Tsukiyo when he said to watch his show on Abema, AT-X, Crunchyroll... |
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| Well some people care about it being legal or not , and I'm not sure about the fact that creators get no money from it. I just don't know. Fun fact :[in the region that I'm living there is no way to watch anime legally (i mean there is no site) and even some pir@te sites here cost people for something that they don't own, and some people do actually pay them! bad English syndrome |
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Tiosar said: I mean if you are an anime fan, what's wrong with supporting the creators?I will never understand what makes people willingly become slaves to their corporate overlords. Is there something so bad about supporting anime that other anime fans need to make fun of? Like, I've seen people who make fun of others who collect manga, because "you can read for free online" Only in the anime community, that supporting anime = bad |
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MadanielFL said: Tiosar said: I mean if you are an anime fan, what's wrong with supporting the creators?I will never understand what makes people willingly become slaves to their corporate overlords. Is there something so bad about supporting anime that other anime fans need to make fun of? Like, I've seen people who make fun of others who collect manga, because "you can read for free online" Only in the anime community, that supporting anime = bad I haven't seen anyone who makes fun of others for collecting manga. I personally love collecting manga because it's such a better feeling actually having it in your hands in my opinion. As for the topic, I don't really watch things legally although I do like collecting blu rays of certain shows that I love and will definitely rewatch at least once. Otherwise I just use nyaa. |
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MadanielFL said: If you want to support anime - buy merch, there are all kinds of it; no reason to support greedy, incompetent leeches on the streaming sites.Tiosar said: I mean if you are an anime fan, what's wrong with supporting the creators?I will never understand what makes people willingly become slaves to their corporate overlords. Is there something so bad about supporting anime that other anime fans need to make fun of? Like, I've seen people who make fun of others who collect manga, because "you can read for free online" Only in the anime community, that supporting anime = bad |
MadanielFL said: You can also watch Death Note, Naruto, and others for free on Youtube thanks to Viz. ateks said: So the creators are getting ripped off????????Who the fuck cares about legality it's not like the creators get any of your money anyway. You corporate shills are fucking annoying. Just use 9anime and nyaa like everyone else. I always knew not to trust Rui Tsukiyo when he said to watch his show on Abema, AT-X, Crunchyroll... 2 shekels have been deposited to your bank account. best regards Crunchyroll LLC. |
Tiosar said: You didn't read my comment? MadanielFL said: If you want to support anime - buy merch, there are all kinds of it; no reason to support greedy, incompetent leeches on the streaming sites.I mean if you are an anime fan, what's wrong with supporting the creators? Is there something so bad about supporting anime that other anime fans need to make fun of? Like, I've seen people who make fun of others who collect manga, because "you can read for free online" Only in the anime community, that supporting anime = bad People make fun of people who support the industry no matter what. Why buy anime blu-rays when you can watch anime for free? I've actually seen people say this. I really doubt anime pirates are buying merch in large quantities when they don't even wanna pay $7 for anime... Plus this post is all about places where you can watch anime for free legally, yet according to you, watching anime for free is = to "becoming slaves to their corporate overlords" Makes total sense Pixel_Vapour said: Oh I have seen plenty of people saying thisI haven't seen anyone who makes fun of others for collecting manga. I personally love collecting manga because it's such a better feeling actually having it in your hands in my opinion. this is just one example. |
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| Crunchyroll is no longer free (although it wasn't a great free option back then. 10 minutes of ads per episode. Note that using an adblock completely defeats the purpose of using a legal streaming site) Some companies offer their series for free on Youtube. However, there are also pirates who upload the series illegally on that platform. D4DJ has an English channel, and is one of the few that fully embraced the Youtube platform. |
| You can buy lossless digital music from your favorite Japanese artists on https://ototoy.jp/. The songs are all DRM-free and you can re-download your purchased albums as you wish. Show your support to your favorite artist if you can! ps. if you are looking for Japanese albums, you have to search it in Japanese (not romaji). Just copy and paste the name. For those who want to learn Japanese through anime Resources for learning the language |
MadanielFL said: It doesn't matter if you buy an expensive blue-ray, a figurine or an official poster - all people have different financial situation after all. However, fans who really love the series and have resources to support it spend a lot - and that's a very healthy relationship between makers and consumers. Giving $7 to some scummy streaming platform, however, is like putting your money, no matter how small, in a garbage bin. Maybe if they make a good media player and start making good subs, maybe then it will be worthwhile to give them any money, but I don't see that coming any time soon. Tiosar said: You didn't read my comment? If you want to support anime - buy merch, there are all kinds of it; no reason to support greedy, incompetent leeches on the streaming sites. People make fun of people who support the industry no matter what. Why buy anime blu-rays when you can watch anime for free? I've actually seen people say this. I really doubt anime pirates are buying merch in large quantities when they don't even wanna pay $7 for anime... Plus this post is all about places where you can watch anime for free legally, yet according to you, watching anime for free is = to "becoming slaves to their corporate overlords" Makes total sense Pixel_Vapour said: Oh I have seen plenty of people saying thisI haven't seen anyone who makes fun of others for collecting manga. I personally love collecting manga because it's such a better feeling actually having it in your hands in my opinion. this is just one example. I can give you an example of my own. I'm a big fan of Falcom-made video-game series called The Legend of Heroes and I used to buy every game and DLC specifically avoiding sales, but ever since I was disappointed in its English localizer NISA, because they do a shitty job and just vandalize my favorite series, I don't give them any money. I still, however, purchase official merch from Japanese stores where this American company gets nothing from me. Voting with your wallet and all that. |
Tiosar said: But here is the thing, your original comment is making fun of those who support the industry. It doesn't matter if you buy an expensive blue-ray, a figurine or an official poster - all people have different financial situation after all. However, fans who really love the series and have resources to support it spend a lot - and that's a very healthy relationship between makers and consumers. Giving $7 to some scummy streaming platform, however, is like putting your money, no matter how small, in a garbage bin. Maybe if they make a good media player and start making good subs, maybe then it will be worthwhile to give them any money, but I don't see that coming any time soon. I can give you an example of my own. I'm a big fan of Falcom-made video-game series called The Legend of Heroes and I used to buy every game and DLC specifically avoiding sales, but ever since I was disappointed in its English localizer NISA, because they do a shitty job and just vandalize my favorite series, I don't give them any money. I still, however, purchase official merch from Japanese stores where this American company gets nothing from me. Voting with your wallet and all that. Paying for an anime streaming service, no matter how much you hate them, is still supporting the industry. I find funny how you talked about The Legend of Heroes, when Crunchyroll and bilibili literally just co-produced the latest anime of that series. And don't forget how you think watching anime for free is the same as becoming a slave to the corporate overlords. I'm still trying to understand your comment. So if I watch Death Note for free on youtube, am I becoming a slave to the corporate overlords? |
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MadanielFL said: Tiosar said: But here is the thing, your original comment is making fun of those who support the industry. It doesn't matter if you buy an expensive blue-ray, a figurine or an official poster - all people have different financial situation after all. However, fans who really love the series and have resources to support it spend a lot - and that's a very healthy relationship between makers and consumers. Giving $7 to some scummy streaming platform, however, is like putting your money, no matter how small, in a garbage bin. Maybe if they make a good media player and start making good subs, maybe then it will be worthwhile to give them any money, but I don't see that coming any time soon. I can give you an example of my own. I'm a big fan of Falcom-made video-game series called The Legend of Heroes and I used to buy every game and DLC specifically avoiding sales, but ever since I was disappointed in its English localizer NISA, because they do a shitty job and just vandalize my favorite series, I don't give them any money. I still, however, purchase official merch from Japanese stores where this American company gets nothing from me. Voting with your wallet and all that. Paying for an anime streaming service, no matter how much you hate them, is still supporting the industry. I find funny how you talked about The Legend of Heroes, when Crunchyroll and bilibili literally just co-produced the latest anime of that series. And don't forget how you think watching anime for free is the same as becoming a slave to the corporate overlords. I'm still trying to understand your comment. So if I watch Death Note for free on youtube, am I becoming a slave to the corporate overlords? Okay. Provide me with some math if you can, then. Let's say I purchase a monthly subscription because I want to watch Spy Kyoushitsu. How much of that money will go to the creators of the said anime? I also don't understand what you can't understand about my comment. Contrary to nonsense corporate shills like to spew, digital stuff can be copied at no cost to anyone, but if you liked something and have money to spend - it's only right to support creators directly, but "slaves" I mentioned make it sound like digital piracy is some kind of terrible thing - that mentality is what I made fun of since there are plenty of ways to support the creators of the things you like while avoiding giving money to middlemen. |
Tiosar said: I mean isn't the middlemen doing the subs or dub for you?MadanielFL said: But here is the thing, your original comment is making fun of those who support the industry. Paying for an anime streaming service, no matter how much you hate them, is still supporting the industry. I find funny how you talked about The Legend of Heroes, when Crunchyroll and bilibili literally just co-produced the latest anime of that series. And don't forget how you think watching anime for free is the same as becoming a slave to the corporate overlords. I'm still trying to understand your comment. So if I watch Death Note for free on youtube, am I becoming a slave to the corporate overlords? Okay. Provide me with some math if you can, then. Let's say I purchase a monthly subscription because I want to watch Spy Kyoushitsu. How much of that money will go to the creators of the said anime? I also don't understand what you can't understand about my comment. Contrary to nonsense corporate shills like to spew, digital stuff can be copied at no cost to anyone, but if you liked something and have money to spend - it's only right to support creators directly, but "slaves" I mentioned make it sound like digital piracy is some kind of terrible thing - that mentality is what I made fun of since there are plenty of ways to support the creators of the things you like while avoiding giving money to middlemen. Cause if we were to completely eliminate the middlemen, like some people want to do, you would be getting raw shows from Japan with no subs. Plus most streaming services aren't even just middlemen anymore, look at the amount of anime Crunchyroll, Funimation, bilibili have helped produce. Aharen-san for example, would never have gotten an anime adaptation if it wasn't for bilibili, so is that just a middlemen? And is watching anime for free on youtube really making people slaves? And to answer your first question, Sentai had to pay a license fee to stream that anime, these license fees have only gotten more expensive over the years, and now can roguhly cover the full cost of production for a show. Also there are mutiple different types of licenses, including the royalties method, which means a show gets more money if the number of viewers is higher. Anime producers have actually said in interviews that overseas streaming helps them a lot because it guarantees a source of income even before the show comes out. There's a reason why animators and people working on the industry have always told people not to pirate. |
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ateks said: Based CGDCT/moe enjoyer is based, as usual.Just another corporate paid thread where MadanielFL goes on full rampage shilling for his employer while mods are watching in silence. |
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These are publicly released figures of anime industry revenue (in billions of yen) 51% of the 2020 revenue was from overseas. Morality is an entirely different question, but people who claim overseas streaming has no effect on the industry are stuck in 2009 (;-.-) |
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ateks said: I always knew that bum Rui Tsukiyo was a fraud.Just another corporate paid thread where MadanielFL goes on full rampage shilling for his employer while mods are watching in silence. ZechTearz said: If you watch anime for free on youtube you are a corporate SLAVE!I only clicked on this thread to see if that one really obvious Crunchyroll employee would be posting in here and I am not disappointed. |
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Tiosar said: there are plenty of ways to support the creators of the things you like while avoiding giving money to middlemen. But all those other ways also involve middlemen, whether it's merchandise, manga/LN, or home-video releases -- even if you're importing from Japan. Merch retailers / manufacturers, book publishers, and disc distributors all get their cut of the sale, as do the rights-holders and production committee investors who funded a particular anime in the first place. Legal streaming sites are no different in that regard -- it's just that the viewerbase applies selective resentment on them, based largely on culture-war grievances and a torrent of misinformation and lies. Put another way, I've never seen anyone around here who encourages the buying of figures accused of secretly being in the employ of Good Smile or similar companies. MousouMachine said: These are publicly released figures of anime industry revenue (in billions of yen) 51% of the 2020 revenue was from overseas. Morality is an entirely different question, but people who claim overseas streaming has no effect on the industry are stuck in 2009 (;-.-) https://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data Hey now, we can't have you posting empirically-verifiable information from actual industry sources around here! Don't you know that MAL's Self-Appointed Shill Patrol will come down hard on anyone who knows how the global anime industry works, or threatens to ruin their pro-piracy safe-space echo chamber with facts they don't like or opinions they disagree with?? But seriously, for those who would call the above link fake news or "phony statistics" and are no doubt getting ready to furiously slam down their Shill Cards on me, I ask one question: Suppose you're successful in convincing enough anime fans to unsubscribe from legal streaming sites, that those sites either shut down or stop licensing anime. Setting aside any funding/revenue impacts... for virtually all airing anime, the translations that appear on nyaa and your favorite bootleg sites are currently ripped from legal sites. Where're they coming from if the legal sites shut down? I wouldn't bet on the fansubbers of 2007 coming out of cryostasis to work for free just so that 99999animus can release on time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goose_that_Laid_the_Golden_Eggs |
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Zalis said: But seriously, for those who would call the above link fake news or "phony statistics" and are no doubt getting ready to furiously slam down their Shill Cards on me, I ask one question: Suppose you're successful in convincing enough anime fans to unsubscribe from legal streaming sites, that those sites either shut down or stop licensing anime. Setting aside any funding/revenue impacts... for virtually all airing anime, the translations that appear on nyaa and your favorite bootleg sites are currently ripped from legal sites. Where're they coming from if the legal sites shut down? I wouldn't bet on the fansubbers of 2007 coming out of cryostasis to work for free just so that 99999animus can release on time. It's fake news and phony statistics. I would hope the translations come from nowhere and force everyone to learn Japanese. |
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ateks said: Hey do you ever get tired of using that exact same response every single time there's a thread even tangentially related to piracy? Like on your own thread when Zalis explained to you in a whole ass essay about how you're wrong about liscensing and that was your response. MadanielFL said: You can also watch Death Note, Naruto, and others for free on Youtube thanks to Viz. So the creators are getting ripped off???????? I always knew not to trust Rui Tsukiyo when he said to watch his show on Abema, AT-X, Crunchyroll... 2 shekels have been deposited to your bank account. best regards Crunchyroll LLC. |
Zalis said: Setting aside any funding/revenue impacts... for virtually all airing anime, the translations that appear on nyaa and your favorite bootleg sites are currently ripped from legal sites. Where're they coming from if the legal sites shut down? I wouldn't bet on the fansubbers of 2007 coming out of cryostasis to work for free just so that 99999animus can release on time. I know you are a paid shill so you wouldn't know but there are still tons of fansubs being made today and of course they would increase if Crinchy shuts down. Have you not watched the sub of Isekai Ojisan from 4chan? Shit was hilarious and a million times better than any woke trash Crinchy could ever make. And I don't mind waiting some weeks for fansubs coming out, it's not like we are already waiting months because of shit companies like Aniplex. |
Curdiss said: Hey do you ever get tired of using that exact same response every single time there's a thread even tangentially related to piracy? Like on your own thread when Zalis explained to you in a whole ass essay about how you're wrong about liscensing and that was your response. Oh look it's the third paid shill coming out of the hiding. The same three people defending their employer Crinchyshit in every thread, what a funny coincidence isn't it? And no I will never grow tired of calling you guys out because your employer is trash and you are just getting paid to advertise them here. |
Tiosar said: I think that limits the industy though. In your model, where series are entirely dependant on merchandise sales for foreign audiences only the most popular things ever make any money. That encourages trend chasing and not taking chances on things that don't look like they'd be the most profitable thing possible. MadanielFL said: It doesn't matter if you buy an expensive blue-ray, a figurine or an official poster - all people have different financial situation after all. However, fans who really love the series and have resources to support it spend a lot - and that's a very healthy relationship between makers and consumers. Giving $7 to some scummy streaming platform, however, is like putting your money, no matter how small, in a garbage bin. Maybe if they make a good media player and start making good subs, maybe then it will be worthwhile to give them any money, but I don't see that coming any time soon. You didn't read my comment? People make fun of people who support the industry no matter what. Why buy anime blu-rays when you can watch anime for free? I've actually seen people say this. I really doubt anime pirates are buying merch in large quantities when they don't even wanna pay $7 for anime... Plus this post is all about places where you can watch anime for free legally, yet according to you, watching anime for free is = to "becoming slaves to their corporate overlords" Makes total sense Oh I have seen plenty of people saying this this is just one example. I can give you an example of my own. I'm a big fan of Falcom-made video-game series called The Legend of Heroes and I used to buy every game and DLC specifically avoiding sales, but ever since I was disappointed in its English localizer NISA, because they do a shitty job and just vandalize my favorite series, I don't give them any money. I still, however, purchase official merch from Japanese stores where this American company gets nothing from me. Voting with your wallet and all that. In the paid streaming model it's likely that atleast one company will buy streaming rights, sometimes paying for production outright. Even just last year Trigger made the cyberpunk anime, the game got HORRIBLE reception especially at launch, the IP was practically poison, can you say confidently it would've gotten made if not for the Netflix deal? I agree that Crunchyroll needs a real UI designer, and their site does need some work, they're missing features like release schedules for seasonals and the ability to turn on subtitles for Dubbed shows. I'm glad for pirate sites as they provide competition that can't be stomped out by acquistions and exclusivity deals, but to imply that sites like Crunchyroll aren't a good thing? Do you really want to go back to the FanSub Era? |
ateks said: I use 9anime. I'm just annoyed that you're making pirates look bad by being so annoying.Curdiss said: Hey do you ever get tired of using that exact same response every single time there's a thread even tangentially related to piracy? Like on your own thread when Zalis explained to you in a whole ass essay about how you're wrong about liscensing and that was your response. Oh look it's the third paid shill coming out of the hiding. The same three people defending their employer Crinchyshit in every thread, what a funny coincidence isn't it? And no I will never grow tired of calling you guys out because your employer is trash and you are just getting paid to advertise them here. |
Curdiss said: ateks said: I use 9anime. I'm just annoyed that you're making pirates look bad by being so annoying.Oh look it's the third paid shill coming out of the hiding. The same three people defending their employer Crinchyshit in every thread, what a funny coincidence isn't it? And no I will never grow tired of calling you guys out because your employer is trash and you are just getting paid to advertise them here. Haha yeah of course you are using 9a now, you are not fooling anyone here. |
Zalis said: 51% of the 2020 revenue was from overseas. Morality is an entirely different question, but people who claim overseas streaming has no effect on the industry are stuck in 2009 (;-.-) Suppose you're successful in convincing enough anime fans to unsubscribe from legal streaming sites, that those sites either shut down or stop licensing anime. Setting aside any funding/revenue impacts... for virtually all airing anime, the translations that appear on nyaa and your favorite bootleg sites are currently ripped from legal sites. Where're they coming from if the legal sites shut down? I wouldn't bet on the fansubbers of 2007 coming out of cryostasis to work for free just so that 99999animus can release on time. Hey Zalis, I owe you a reply and this is a good opportunity. Is this why you're adamantly defending crunchyroll nonstop? Because I can kinda see where you're coming from. I'll just say that fansubs back in the day were weeks late sometimes. I don't mind as long as there are no glaring mistakes like the ones I find in crunchy subs. (I think this is more of a time problem, and not incompetency.) The thing is I don't care if "everyone else does it and streaming makes more money than merchandise these days" that's not a valid reason for anyone to stop buying. I'm not a shill, I'm at odds with every toy company exactly because I keep buying their shitty products. I am capable of being critical with stuff I like and I don't feel like defending their awful practices and overpriced stuff. even if I own around 400 figures. (the real problem with collecting for me is that most shows don't have anything worth buying I'm interested in, esp old anime) Have you heard of Cosmos Pink Shock? See, I happen to like old anime and OVAs are my favorite. Would you come out of cryostasis, I wonder? So I was wondering why a fansubber with their stuff uploaded to piracy sites is trying to shill Crunchyroll, which used to be a piracy site. To answer your question, I believe if Crunchy went bankrupt, or got disbanded(which will never happen now, knowing who the parent company is) a new streaming site would pop up, hopefully with japanese roots. Anime in the west is too big now for nobody to attempt a cashgrab. I'm not against legal streaming services, but I absolutely hate crunchyroll, they are a net negative for me. The top reasons are: crunchyroll originals (gibiate, manwha adaptations, ex-arm) high guardian spice localization (I mean using current year internet terms that don't last for half a year, changing things for no reason, and adding political stuff where it doesn't belong) the danmachi game's censorship (I won't mention them airing anime censored because I think they buy the same streaming rights as japanese tv stations do) the most worrying for me was crunchyroll admitting that they want to tell japan how to make anime to make it "more accessible to a global audience." https://variety.com/2020/streaming/asia/crunchyroll-joanne-waage-anime-growing-i-1234823407/ especially because crunchyroll is funding anime now. Shield Hero which they funded took so many liberties that it doesn't make any sense anymore for example. I don't want the west tell japan what they are allowed to animate, I don't want the users's money to be spent on things without a japanese origin, especially not on woke checkbox shows. there's a good reason anime is as popular as it is right now, and that's because japan doesn't have to conform to the west's batshit media policies. I care about anime, I respect fansubbers and their dedication and love for anime. I don't care about some streaming site. I tried to be as civil as I can, so I hope you took the time to read it and understand my standpoint. I think you're a sensible person, and not some rabid fanboy. |
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MadanielFL said: Man, you don't know what you are talking about. I mentioned Legend of Heroes series before - these are very text-heavy games and require a lot of work, and fans were translating it faster and BETTER for free until American localizer destroyed the team that worked on them by threatening to sue even though they never distributed the games themselves. In this case, the sole existence of an official localizer is a drawback for fans like me. Moreover, subs for anime existed long before all these streaming sites realized it was a golden mine - I've been watching subbed anime since 2007, and fansubs often were of a much better quality than that garbage official streaming platforms spew nowadays. But if dob on your profile is true it's no wonder you have no idea about the state of anime community in the past and how hideous the influence of these hacks is. Your link doesn't answer my question. How much of royalties will creators of Spy Kyoushitsu get from my $7 to a streaming platform if I want to support a specific anime? Tiosar said: I mean isn't the middlemen doing the subs or dub for you?Okay. Provide me with some math if you can, then. Let's say I purchase a monthly subscription because I want to watch Spy Kyoushitsu. How much of that money will go to the creators of the said anime? I also don't understand what you can't understand about my comment. Contrary to nonsense corporate shills like to spew, digital stuff can be copied at no cost to anyone, but if you liked something and have money to spend - it's only right to support creators directly, but "slaves" I mentioned make it sound like digital piracy is some kind of terrible thing - that mentality is what I made fun of since there are plenty of ways to support the creators of the things you like while avoiding giving money to middlemen. Cause if we were to completely eliminate the middlemen, like some people want to do, you would be getting raw shows from Japan with no subs. Plus most streaming services aren't even just middlemen anymore, look at the amount of anime Crunchyroll, Funimation, bilibili have helped produce. Aharen-san for example, would never have gotten an anime adaptation if it wasn't for bilibili, so is that just a middlemen? And is watching anime for free on youtube really making people slaves? And to answer your first question, Sentai had to pay a license fee to stream that anime, these license fees have only gotten more expensive over the years, and now can roguhly cover the full cost of production for a show. Also there are mutiple different types of licenses, including the royalties method, which means a show gets more money if the number of viewers is higher. Anime producers have actually said in interviews that overseas streaming helps them a lot because it guarantees a source of income even before the show comes out. There's a reason why animators and people working on the industry have always told people not to pirate. Also, please drop this Youtube argument. It doesn't even make sense and I've already explained what I meant by that comment of mine. |
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Tiosar said: How much of royalties will creators of Spy Kyoushitsu get from my $7 to a streaming platform if I want to support a specific anime? https://www.otakujournalist.com/where-your-crunchyroll-dollars-really-go-an-interview-with-the-ceo/ “This season, we have over 40 simulcasts—more than we’ve ever had. And most of those shows are coming from repeat publishers who’ve been with us from day one. Publishers get the majority of the money [from your subscription] and they’re very happy with what they’re getting.” “If you watch just Naruto, your subscription money goes toward supporting that show. If you watch more than one show, the money is split proportionately among those shows depending on which ones you watch the most,” said Gao. So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. THEN. after this bullshit you have to consider they have to pay all their employees, they bought 5 or more offices including a luxury one, they obviously have to pay licensing fees, pay for the servers they host crunchyroll expos, they were able to pay studios to make crunchyroll originals they are in various anime committees needless to say your studio gets jack fucking shit at best. |
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| @nyugvo6 Yeah most of these statement from corporations like Crunchyroll sound like a bogus, but even if we take it at face value what you quoted still doesn't make sense, i.e. >So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. >On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. If the first statement is true it means the more you watch the less money any specific anime production gets out of it, so the second statement is a contradiction. From the looks of it, they just want to make people feel good about paying money. |
nyugvo6 said: https://www.otakujournalist.com/where-your-crunchyroll-dollars-really-go-an-interview-with-the-ceo/ “This season, we have over 40 simulcasts—more than we’ve ever had. And most of those shows are coming from repeat publishers who’ve been with us from day one. Publishers get the majority of the money [from your subscription] and they’re very happy with what they’re getting.” “If you watch just Naruto, your subscription money goes toward supporting that show. If you watch more than one show, the money is split proportionately among those shows depending on which ones you watch the most,” said Gao. So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. Did you not realize that publishers and creators are two different things? The publisher, the one getting the majority of the money, is Crinchyshit. |
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ateks said: nyugvo6 said: https://www.otakujournalist.com/where-your-crunchyroll-dollars-really-go-an-interview-with-the-ceo/ “This season, we have over 40 simulcasts—more than we’ve ever had. And most of those shows are coming from repeat publishers who’ve been with us from day one. Publishers get the majority of the money [from your subscription] and they’re very happy with what they’re getting.” “If you watch just Naruto, your subscription money goes toward supporting that show. If you watch more than one show, the money is split proportionately among those shows depending on which ones you watch the most,” said Gao. So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. Did you not realize that publishers and creators are two different things? The publisher, the one getting the majority of the money, is Crinchyshit. ...that's the exact reason the damn publisher line is in bold. they get the money, not the studio. that's the point. Tiosar said: >On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. If the first statement is true it means the more you watch the less money any specific anime production gets out of it, so the second statement is a contradiction. From the looks of it, they just want to make people feel good about paying money. yes. but the point is they specifically say publisher, not animation studio or animators. |
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nyugvo6 said: That interview is from literally 10 years ago.https://www.otakujournalist.com/where-your-crunchyroll-dollars-really-go-an-interview-with-the-ceo/ “This season, we have over 40 simulcasts—more than we’ve ever had. And most of those shows are coming from repeat publishers who’ve been with us from day one. Publishers get the majority of the money [from your subscription] and they’re very happy with what they’re getting.” “If you watch just Naruto, your subscription money goes toward supporting that show. If you watch more than one show, the money is split proportionately among those shows depending on which ones you watch the most,” said Gao. So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. THEN. after this bullshit you have to consider they have to pay all their employees, they bought 5 or more offices including a luxury one, they obviously have to pay licensing fees, pay for the servers they host crunchyroll expos, they were able to pay studios to make crunchyroll originals they are in various anime committees needless to say your studio gets jack fucking shit at best. And things have changed over time, like I mentioned of licensing fees getting more expensive over the years. It's much more expensive to license a show now than it was 10 years ago. The companies receiving the money from licenses are the production committee, and it depends if the studio is on the committee or not. Plubisher means production commitee But most people only think of the studios and ignore that there are a lot of other companies involved in making anime. You say "your studio gets jack fucking shit at best." And where is your proof of that? Saying "they split the money" isn't proof of anything. I mean, Wit studio and Production I.G. CEO literally said in an interview that their revenues have increased so much because of overseas streaming "they were able to pay studios to make crunchyroll originals" I mean isn't this what pirates wanted? For they to be supporting anime studios? So when they are on a production committee, aren't they paying the studio to make the show? Tiosar said: I like how we went from how Sentai pays the creators of Spy Classroom to Crunchyroll and an interview from 10 years ago.@nyugvo6 Yeah most of these statement from corporations like Crunchyroll sound like a bogus, but even if we take it at face value what you quoted still doesn't make sense, i.e. >So if you’re watching Kill La Kill 75 percent of the time and Golden Time the other 25 percent, that means Kill La Kill’s publisher gets 75 percent of your money. >On Crunchyroll, the more anime you watch, the more publishers you support. If the first statement is true it means the more you watch the less money any specific anime production gets out of it, so the second statement is a contradiction. From the looks of it, they just want to make people feel good about paying money. At least talk about the correct company, because you are talking about a completely different one here. |
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ateks said: look dude, I'm not interested in proving anything to you, I just wanted to let you know that when other people use that insult they're saying it ironically, they don't actually believe that CR hires people to defend them on random ass forums. And your sincere belief that they do makes you look like an idiot. Especially when it's your only defense to being proven wrong. I'm on your side as far as piracy goes but it's like being a fucking Cubs fan, can you please just stop taking L's for 5 damn seconds?Curdiss said: I use 9anime. I'm just annoyed that you're making pirates look bad by being so annoying. Haha yeah of course you are using 9a now, you are not fooling anyone here. |
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