🌈Do you like when the writers make a straight character turn gay due to the influence of its fandom?
| Can you name one instance where this has happened? |
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| I absolutely hate it. That's doujinshi artist job for sure |
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| I don't think this has happened like, ever |
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| What ??? has this ever happened in manga or anime ? |
Crow_Black said: epidemia78 said: Blue Flag at its ending its so bad every single fujoshi i've seen hated its ending.Can you name one instance where this has happened? Never heard of it. Literally the only case I can think of is Legend of Korra but that's not anime. |
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Crow_Black said: Gosh, that ending was so infuriating and insulting. Does anyone remember Blue Flag and its ending? exactly thats how i feel its fucking dogshit to score moral brownie points and wokies should never be pandered to in any kind of way at all. |
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| That's literally the worst thing that could possibly happen, but i don't recall this specifically happening in anime. Maybe Happy Sugar Life, where MC was frequently hooking up with boys and then fell in love with a loli? There are some cases in western media of author listening to shippers and making character gay out of nowhere without prior confirming their sexuality tho, like in RWBY for example. But there is also this infamous case of Bridget from Guilty Gear, which was basically retconned from being a trap into a trans and over twenty years of character's development, struggle and history has been made irrelevant. |
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epidemia78 said: I do remember the production team of Korra saying they wanted to show her as bi earlier on but execs wouldn't let them until literally the end of the series due to homophobic censors and Nickelodeon at the time so blame that more on Nick censorsCrow_Black said: Blue Flag at its ending its so bad every single fujoshi i've seen hated its ending. Never heard of it. Literally the only case I can think of is Legend of Korra but that's not anime. |
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LSSJ_Gaming said: epidemia78 said: I do remember the production team of Korra saying they wanted to show her as bi earlier on but execs wouldn't let them until literally the end of the series due to homophobic censors and Nickelodeon at the time so blame that more on Nick censorsNever heard of it. Literally the only case I can think of is Legend of Korra but that's not anime. A likely story. Sorry but I am not buying it. Seems like a clear cut case of retconning a character. |
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| I've literally never seen that happen in anything. Unless you count Tweek and Craig on South Park. I'm not really into the idea of forcing a change into a story just to appease a specific group of people within a fandom though. Key word is "forcing". A change that big should make sense within the story, otherwise that's just shit writing. |
epidemia78 said: If the censors forced them to remove it at first but later allowed them to put it back in is it really a retcon if it is returning things to the intended creative vision?LSSJ_Gaming said: I do remember the production team of Korra saying they wanted to show her as bi earlier on but execs wouldn't let them until literally the end of the series due to homophobic censors and Nickelodeon at the time so blame that more on Nick censors A likely story. Sorry but I am not buying it. Seems like a clear cut case of retconning a character. |
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LSSJ_Gaming said: epidemia78 said: If the censors forced them to remove it at first but later allowed them to put it back in is it really a retcon if it is returning things to the intended creative vision?A likely story. Sorry but I am not buying it. Seems like a clear cut case of retconning a character. It's like that time the harry potter lady decided to make dumbledore gay. He was like that the entire time, honest!!! |
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epidemia78 said: There's a difference between that where she just did it to appear progressive compared to the Korra team actively wanting to try to have a bisexual protagonist but getting shot down until the series was literally about to be cancelled after getting shipped off to the Nicktoons graveyardLSSJ_Gaming said: If the censors forced them to remove it at first but later allowed them to put it back in is it really a retcon if it is returning things to the intended creative vision? It's like that time the harry potter lady decided to make dumbledore gay. He was like that the entire time, honest!!! |
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| Writers can, should, must, and will turn straight characters gay |
| I have no idea since I assume that the sexuality of the characters is very ambiguous until something is detailed in the story. Changing sexuality is as easy as defining the gender of the character, just change straight to gay, and vice versa, and nothing changes the writing. This practice is used only to attract a particular audience. What I hate is that there are artists or companies that declare the sexuality of a character that doesn't matter to make them see that they are inclusive. |
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TheFireNinja said: MHA fangirls are shaking right now.But I personally get tired of fans interpreting any close friendships between male characters or any tense relationship between them as something gay when there's no such implication. |
Crow_Black said: Blue Flag was already bad before the ending.Does anyone remember Blue Flag and its ending? exactly thats how i feel its fucking dogshit to score moral brownie points and wokies should never be pandered to in any kind of way at all. epidemia78 said: At least in Dumbledore's case, Rowling never tried to say he was straight.It's like that time the harry potter lady decided to make dumbledore gay. He was like that the entire time, honest!!! |
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| I don't remember encountering such instances but I generally hate gay/lesbian couples. |
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| I don't really seem to recall that anything like this has ever happened, you didn't even include bare minimum anecdotal evidence to support your claim either. Yet, I feel as though some people seem to reject the fact that bisexuality exists. A joke has a thing called punchline, and if the joke doesn't match the punchline it's no fun. Though I'm sure that in these stories that you are referring to, the character was in fact not "straight" if such stories exist in the first place. Even in this scenario wherein the fandom "forces" the creators hands, would these fans have not formulated their opinion based on the content of the show? I would hardly imagine a scenario where people are calling out for characters to be gay, if there was absolutely no support for this within the text. Well this is just my opinion on the matter, but I am sure people will generously point out examples of this "phenomenon" if such even exists, or at the very least feigned happenings of such. |
| I don't think I have seen something like this in anime. That's more of a western media thing. |
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| Yes, I like it. It is so adorable and amazing! |
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epidemia78 said: Can you name one instance where this has happened? I know the opposites.. Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. Also some gay character named fish or something from Sailor moon was turned into a woman in the anime because of homophobic people of 80s.. |
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| I've never seen it happen, so I don't care. Besides, a good writer would be able to make such a change work in a way that feels natural and doesn't ruin anything that's already been established. |
| i don't really care or have any examples but even excluding the gender/sexuality thing i just don't think writers should just do something because the fandom wills it to happen, but it's their story and up to them either way. unless it wasn't on a writer and it's a studio/production thing then that's ass all around for everyone |
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ryo-san said: epidemia78 said: Can you name one instance where this has happened? I know the opposites.. Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. Also some gay character named fish or something from Sailor moon was turned into a woman in the anime because of homophobic people of 80s.. I also know about Sailor Moon. Surprisingly the changed his gender in the anime. About CLAMP too, I think it is not so difficult for them, especially due to them being all women. ShatteredSans said: I've never seen it happen, so I don't care. Besides, a good writer would be able to make such a change work in a way that feels natural and doesn't ruin anything that's already been established. I agree. Any changes that don't affect or ruin the story or other characters too much are good. |
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ryo-san said: CLAMP's fans don't need to request BL. The members of CLAMP are themselves fujoshi and had been making BL long before Cardcaptor Sakura.Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. |
| その目だれの目？ |
| I'm for artistic freedom, so if the artist feels that a change like that is necessary, then all's good. It's bad, however, when it comes from hate campaign done by enraged fans who are mad at the author, because their headcanons didn't become real. |
Lucifrost said: ryo-san said: CLAMP's fans don't need to request BL. The members of CLAMP are themselves fujoshi and had been making BL long before Cardcaptor Sakura.Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. Yes so the fans wanted to see that in Cardcaptor as well... Sakura was clearly in love with yukito, if clamp wanted bl they would have just made yukito and touya bl from the beginning.. Since like you said they published BL before Cardcaptor . And should have shipped Lee and Sakura..but they were going towards Sakura and yukito but fans wanted otherwise and.. |
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| Hasn't happened to a series I watched but it sounds retarded and potentially reason enough for me to give up on that series. |
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| i don't really care unless it is forced. if the groundwork was laid and it was suggested that this character might be gay then it's okay. but if it's blatantly and forecfully then naw. |
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epidemia78 said: Can you name one instance where this has happened? JK Rowling after idk 12-13 years of the release of the last book suddenly said that Hagrid is Homosexual and I guess few other characters too, ovbiously she wasn't affected by the "fandom" lgbt movements. That's the only example I can actually think of. |
| I don't see how the Disney method (or as the kids call it, "queerbaiting", ie; fishing for LGBTS) of making a random background character gay matters to anyone but the most desperate consoomer. And it's fans were talking about, they don't know what they want and they'll harass people for not conforming to their headcanons. Also, none of that serves to make a story good. |
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Zettaiken said: epidemia78 said: Can you name one instance where this has happened? JK Rowling after idk 12-13 years of the release of the last book suddenly said that Hagrid is Homosexual and I guess few other characters too, ovbiously she wasn't affected by the "fandom" lgbt movements. That's the only example I can actually think of. Hadn't she said the "Dumbledore" was gay? I don't remember her saying that Hagrid was gay... But even so, JK probably thought of Dumbledore as gay a long time ago. |
ryo-san said: epidemia78 said: Can you name one instance where this has happened? I know the opposites.. Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. Also some gay character named fish or something from Sailor moon was turned into a woman in the anime because of homophobic people of 80s.. Cardcaptor Sakura makes it very clear that Touya and Yukito have always had a romantic feeling between them, it has nothing to do with the fans. |
| I think they did that to Superman (which is BS btw). I don't recall any such thing in anime or manga tho. |
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Absurdo_N said: ryo-san said: I know the opposites.. Yukito and Touya turned into gay couple, because of fan preference.. Yukita rejecting Sakura's feelings because the women fans wanted bl from clamp.. Majoriy of clamp fans are females.. Or identify as females. Also some gay character named fish or something from Sailor moon was turned into a woman in the anime because of homophobic people of 80s.. Cardcaptor Sakura makes it very clear that Touya and Yukito have always had a romantic feeling between them, it has nothing to do with the fans. DC comics makes it very clear that batman and superman have always had a romantic feeling between them, it has nothing to do with the fans wanting to jerk off to wonder woman knowing she is single.. |
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ryo-san said: Absurdo_N said: Cardcaptor Sakura makes it very clear that Touya and Yukito have always had a romantic feeling between them, it has nothing to do with the fans. DC comics makes it very clear that batman and superman have always had a romantic feeling between them, it has nothing to do with the fans wanting to jerk off to wonder woman knowing she is single.. DC never said that, the only thing that seems like that is that duo of heroes (which is also a couple) that makes apology for Superman and Batman. Wonder Woman has a confusing sexuality, she is canonically lesbian and bisexual depending on which comic you read. |
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