VarunaBles said: MadanielFL said: Apparently Vinland Saga S1 sold 200 units and yet it has a 2nd season. CSM will probaly get one, just not on the same "level" as S1.That moment when The Eminence in Shadow sells more blu-rays than CSM And people don't believe me when I say this show might not get a season 2.... Vinland Saga had a production committee tho, which means it’s way less risky for the studio. While CSM has no production committee, so that’s all money loss for Mappa only. |
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| Well, i mean ... How is this surprising ? The targeted audience is well known for not having the spending power of others, like you cant really buy the BD/DVDs from just your monthly pocket money. |
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MadanielFL said: Mappa selling off CSM news incoming?VarunaBles said: Apparently Vinland Saga S1 sold 200 units and yet it has a 2nd season. CSM will probaly get one, just not on the same "level" as S1. Vinland Saga had a production committee tho, which means it’s way less risky for the studio. While CSM has no production committee, so that’s all money loss for Mappa only. |
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| japan hates deep or dark shows most of the time |
| japan hates seinen? csm fans think the manga is seinen /s main buyers of discs are usually source fans but the source fans of japan hates the adaptation |
Otakupervert890 said: YGuco18 said: people are so unthankful. This is the best adaptation of all time and people still complain… lol it's well known from the threat on twitter that the Japanese didn't like it so it's only a reflection of that. since Mappa is 100% on it with no production committee it hurt them now only remain to know what deal they got for royalties on streaming to see if they can make a few bucks back. I’m sure all the people who pirated the show aren’t helping either. |
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| i wonder if other anime studio will not take the risk that mappa did here where it has no production committee production committee system lives |
omegaxxx said: In addition to physical copy sales, Mappa also generates revenue from streaming rights, merchandise sales, and licensing. While a few years ago, Blu-ray sales were a major factor in determining whether an anime series would get a sequel, the international market for anime has grown in recent years and streaming services often pay significant amounts to studios for the rights to stream anime series. literally copied it from a site can't type it the problem is the too damn high expectations some fans even think it will overtake demon slayer in profit but it cannot even do that on disc sales |
Spoopy69 said: Fluffygreygrass said: lmaoo lycoris recoil bd sales were like 30k in first week yep lycoris got more sales than demon slayer, spy x family, etc... does this mean it's more popular? definetely not. demon slayer is pretty much the biggest franchise in japan, shows with moe characters tend to sell a lot of blu ray because otaku's buy them. But shows like demon slayer make more money on things like merch and streaming. Even tho lycoris beat demon slayer in blu ray sales, demon slayer earned a LOOOOT more money, so comparing blu-ray sales is pretty dumb. lmfao keep coping hard i didnt even bring up demon slayer or the topic of popularity lmao |
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Ctes said: V1P3R0P said: I think these numbers are only Japanese sales. It is well known that CSM is not very popular in Japan compared to the rest of the world. So probably MAPPA has been aiming for overseas sales fhan home since the beginning. what it is insanely popular in japan, posters everywhere thats aggressive marketing more though and that cost a lot too |
Ctes said: V1P3R0P said: I think these numbers are only Japanese sales. It is well known that CSM is not very popular in Japan compared to the rest of the world. So probably MAPPA has been aiming for overseas sales fhan home since the beginning. what it is insanely popular in japan, posters everywhere Thats what you call advertising. Japanese people even started a petition to remake the Chainsaw man because they hated this adaptation. |
| One the one hand I don't like shit failing but on the other, it's nice to know that I wasn't crazy in thinking that something seemed off about this show and many more probably felt this way. |
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Ctes said: sure but saying its unpopular and not doing well is just flat out wrong, blu ray sales are always differing from show to show, a show like bocchi needs more blu ray sales therefore does more to sell them, csm doesn need those sales. more like fans have too much expectations like it will beat demon slayer or at least jjk in profit but it will not happen if it cannot beat those on disc sales alone |
omegaxxx said: In addition to physical copy sales, Mappa also generates revenue from streaming rights, merchandise sales, and licensing. While a few years ago, Blu-ray sales were a major factor in determining whether an anime series would get a sequel, the international market for anime has grown in recent years and streaming services often pay significant amounts to studios for the rights to stream anime series. literally copied it from a site can't type it Exactly. BDs are not that big of a factor anymore. Streaming is the big indicator of success and CSM was the top in streaming. Some people are overreacting to this news. |
| Japanese aren't braindead as to like CSM. Stupid marvel fans and western culture enjoyers are. Show is aimed toward younger audience despite being R rated. Only kids like watching this shit. Of course there is gonna be no sales when all the fans are "brokies". |
Za_Panda said: Japanese fans - How can I like this ? It has no moe, no colourful sakuga, no hype only good plot. How is this any better than the 200th isekai show i am gonna watch ? What do you mean? A lot of people liked the sakuga in Chainsaw Man, and it is the other way around Chainsaw Man is pure hype bad plot. |
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| Funniest shit that has happened in 2023 so far. How will people cope about it lmao |
| To be getting outsold by the likes of Bocchi by almost a factor of 10:1 isn't great. Clearly, it hasn't taken off in Japan as MAPPA might have hoped. Fortunately, it's retained a strong fanbase outside of Japan. JJK sold about 35k copies, KnY sold 40k+ copies and Attack on Titan sold 56k for it's first volume. Streaming's become a lot more pertinent nowadays so BD-DVD sales aren't the be all and end all, but this is still a poor return when compared to other, less well-known series. |
| told you the anime is dog shit. now csm fans can go cry to their favorite anime director of csm |
| I have watched hundreds of shows that are unlike this one. I still gave this a 7. But it needs to be said that what it was trying to do was just not engaging for the majority of anime fans. The Makima scenes were the most unbearable because they kept panning to different parts of her face and body while she's talking for no reason. Aki cooking scene was fine but it still felt like "look at our budget". Just all around a joke. |
| Chainsaw man fans acting like it didn't sell well due to anime fans only liking generic stuff despite chainsaw man being incredibly fucking generic. |
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| It's mostly due to the fact there's no such things as gag moments/scenes faces and things, then the cinematic directing, then the VAs which is kinda stupid imo. But then again i don't really think it matters with the blu-ray sales and all. |
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nwssx said: Huh, so you also would disrespect a director like that without respecting while he didn't do a good job at directing? so ig perfection exists for delusional people.MugiwaraJopa said: you sure are coping a lot fam. Chainsaw Man was a complete failure thanks to Nakayama's cringey interpretation and horrendous direction, imagine letting a guy that quite literally hates anime direct a project this big, it was BOUND to end up in failure.Fucking Japanese with their braindead takes yet again A director has a unique vision? NAH NANI BUT WHERE ARE MY FLASHY COLORFUL FIGHTS???? I WANT MY INDUSTRY STANDARD PRODUCED TROPE-FILLED SHONEN WAHHHHHHHHHHHH No wonder they hate the anime when they eat up shows like Demon Slayer/MHA like hotcakes. I wonder what those shows have from what I said above. In my eyes they have no credibility. Criticism is fine as long as it doesn't lead to certain bad aspects yk. Perfection doesn't exist end take. |
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| Basically Black Adam all over again. Huge hype that leads to massive flop. Japanese men are also beta af so they will let the journalists trash male mc shows in favor of all female shows like lycoris, bocchi, love live. Welcome to the dark ages of anime. Chances that season 2 of CSM being as of same quality as s1 are dicey now. CSM fans are probably too young to buy those expensive makima and power figures. |
| I love csm. mappa sucks, the director was an asshat, heavily altered it to fit his idea even if it meant removing the appeal. THEN he had the nerve to say it's because fujimoto likes movies, so he's not to blame for his own actions. I'm not surprised that people didn't eat it up, but that number is pathetic. I hope mappa learned their lesson, but something tells me they don't care. I want a better season2 with a competent director and a good studio, but I feel we won't get s2. |
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Decader said: V1P3R0P said: I think these numbers are only Japanese sales. It is well known that CSM is not very popular in Japan compared to the rest of the world. So probably MAPPA has been aiming for overseas sales fhan home since the beginning. Japan has the most Anime Blu Ray and DVD sales in the world. If a series doesn't sell very well there then it is doomed. Depends if it is a new series or a pre existing franchise. If it is a new series, probably screwed. But if the show is like on its fourth cour and has a bunch of goods especially scaled figures and a game, then bd is somewhat irrelevant |
SanessyAdversary said: STFU! ive read Fire punch and chainsawman before the freaking anime, and I didn't enjoyed the adaptation one bit. The director sure likes to go "realism and cinematic" but he avoided making use of "anime" medium to go all out! FFS! its anime go bonkers! instead we get a middling adaptation thats try to be TO DEEP and cinematic that it ends up fucking FLAT!Huh, so you also would disrespect a director like that without respecting while he didn't do a good job at directing? so ig perfection exists for delusional people. Criticism is fine as long as it doesn't lead to certain bad aspects yk. Perfection doesn't exist end take. K-k-kINO?! right CHAINSAW KEKS! |
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WhorneyGirl said: I'm not even a chensoapologist but holy shit you sound so much like an unironic weeaboo. "japan this" "western that" oh la la . Japanese aren't braindead as to like CSM. Stupid marvel fans and western culture enjoyers are. Show is aimed toward younger audience despite being R rated. Only kids like watching this shit. Of course there is gonna be no sales when all the fans are "brokies". |
akiramado19Jan 31, 2023 7:45 PM
| "I can't trust a website where csm is rated higher than hxh" - Akira Toriyama |
StaleNut said: Midsawman vs Bocchi the PeakThat's so bad wtf...Bocchi with 16k in its first week. It even got outnumbered by some isekai... |
akiramado19 said: hey at least ill never be beta westoid kuckWhorneyGirl said: I'm not even a chensoapologist but holy shit you sound so much like an unironic weeaboo. "japan this" "western that" oh la la . Japanese aren't braindead as to like CSM. Stupid marvel fans and western culture enjoyers are. Show is aimed toward younger audience despite being R rated. Only kids like watching this shit. Of course there is gonna be no sales when all the fans are "brokies". |
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