Best battle shonen anime?

_Fallacy_ said:
@Sanjii_1234 Okay , you failed to demonstrate your common sense . So I'm leaving here. Thanks for all the fun. I love people like 🥰

#Thankyou"CommonsenseKing"

@KIOSHI_17 i never bring aot in this discussion. So I don't know what me liking aot have to do with this.

I have also Cowboy Bebop, Sonny Boy and other anime in my favourites. Stop antagonising the fanbom.

_Fallacy_ said:
@Sanjii_1234 Okay , you failed to demonstrate your common sense . So I'm leaving here. Thanks for all the fun. I love people like you🥰

#Thankyou"CommonsenseKing"

@KIOSHI_17 i never bring aot in this discussion. So I don't know what me liking aot have to do with this.

I have also Cowboy Bebop, Sonny Boy and other anime in my favourites. Stop antagonising the fandom.

Sanjii_1234 said:
Bro, don't do this lol , otherwise you will become the renowned Shōnen ****, something this Fuck type text that guy wrote.

KIOSHI_17 said:

Nah man, someone gotta correct those based mfs. They just can't accept the fact that any other anime can be better than their favourites

KIOSHI_17 said:

I know how bad the ending is dude. I was not sure if u were actually referring about how bad it is or u were one of those aot stans who think it's the best anime or some shit...

Sanjii_1234 said:
lmao "based mfs"
This was a good one.
But imo just leave it.
You can see he is a pure gintama and one piece hater, I don't know how these titles f!cked him, but let it be, so it's just wasting your time at last .

KIOSHI_17 said:

so what if you have the others in your favourites lol?

Also, Aot fandom is probably the worst fandom in animanga community (even worse than that of MHA)

...just look at yourself you lowkey said Gintama is trash.

Hating on other animes just because you you want to prove your own to be the best

Yeah you're right, we should stop. That person already suffered enough humiliation and embarrassment for now in this poll discussion. It was kinda fun watching him senselessly argue like that lol. Btw, you can just tag me whenever you come across any such brain-dead people. I'll be more than happy to join the argument.

Phosphophyllita said:
Attack on Titan is seinen, it is better written and more mature than all "battle shounen"

LiterallyHou said:
A bit of a poor selection of choices there, OP. You could have replaced DB, HnK and AGK with Gintama, Mob Psycho and OPM at least. All of these are garbage except CSM, AoT and HxH, and I would say AoT is slightly better than CSM because of its more ambitious story which it pulls off nigh-perfectly until the end where there's a dip in quality, and because generally speaking, it's more unique (CSM is still clearly a battle shounen, however, it masterfully subverts the expectations of this formulaic genre). Out of the 'Big 3', the only good one is Bleach as well.

Indeed. One Piece fans seem to be under the impression that making a cameo of something 700 chapters later is peak foreshadowing, when it lacks anywhere near the subtle ingenuity with massive plot implications that the foreshadowing in series like Attack on Titan's are known for. Any story if provided the opportunity to go on as long as One Piece has could do the same thing. Even Bleach has more creative and skilled use of foreshadowing with greater pay-offs that last almost as long as One Piece's do.

Only two people took his bait before he was apprehended by someone when you posted that comment. Don't hype up low-effort work. @Phosphophyllita doesn't know how to argue for the claims he actually believes whenever they get challenged by people, anyway.

LiterallyHou said:
A bit of a poor selection of choices there, OP. You could have replaced DB, HnK and AGK with Gintama, Mob Psycho and OPM at least. All of these are garbage except CSM, AoT and HxH, and I would say AoT is slightly better than CSM because of its more ambitious story which it pulls off nigh-perfectly until the very end where there's a dip in quality, and because generally speaking, it's more unique (CSM is still clearly a battle shounen, however, it masterfully subverts the expectations of this formulaic genre). Out of the 'Big 3', the only good one is Bleach as well.

Indeed. One Piece fans seem to be under the impression that making a cameo of something 700 chapters later is peak foreshadowing, when it lacks anywhere near the subtle ingenuity with massive plot implications that the foreshadowing in series like Attack on Titan is known for. Any story if provided the opportunity to go on as long as One Piece has could do the same thing. Even Bleach has more creative and skilled use of foreshadowing with greater pay-offs that last almost as long as One Piece's do.

Only two people took his bait before he was apprehended by someone when you posted that comment. Don't hype up low-effort work. @Phosphophyllita doesn't know how to argue for the claims he actually believes whenever they get challenged by people, anyway.

Phosphophyllita said:
Attack on Titan is seinen, it is better written and more mature than all "battle shounen"

Phosphophyllita said:

And yeah, I'm not good at wasting my time on arguing in an internet forum, I'm sorry again.

Rad_Scientist said:


"Battle shonen" does not exist. You mean action.

LiterallyHou said:

Nah. The defeat of Aizen necessitated the TYBW arc (and by extension the Fullbring arc without Kubo asspulling Ichigo's powers back after Mugetsu), in order to not leave the worldbuilding and character arcs of Bleach with a gaping hollow hole. Next time don't speedread a manga that uses subtle and visual storytelling for its narrative. It's either that or you just didn't comprehend the scope of the world Bleach was setting itself to be and how ending it on Aizen would leave behind an abyss of plotholes. That being said, the TYBW arc did not utilize its fullest potential, one which it had to be a truly great arc seeing as how the first half of that arc with the Quincy invasion of Soul Society was peak Bleach, due to Kubo's deteriorating health forcing him to wrap things up in a haphazard manner; the CFYOW sequels showing just how much elaboration was available. You are right about Naruto falling apart after Madara though, because unlike the following two arcs of Bleach, Kaguya literally contributed nothing to the world of Naruto or its characters, and was clearly primarily written to remedy Kishimoto writing himself into a corner with Madara.

Impact is also irrelevant here, because although Dragon Ball may have revolutionized shounen, it doesn't change the fact that compared to almost all the battle shounen it's inspired, it's incredibly basic today with atrocious pacing and has aged like milk. I won't say it's bad though, sure, due to its early conventions never seen before in the medium.

LiterallyHou said:

Nah. The defeat of Aizen necessitated the TYBW arc (and by extension the Fullbring arc without Kubo asspulling Ichigo's powers back after Mugetsu), in order to not leave the worldbuilding and character arcs of Bleach with a gaping hollow hole. Next time don't speedread a manga that uses subtle and visual storytelling for its narrative. It's either that or you just didn't comprehend the scope of the world Bleach was setting itself to be and how ending it on Aizen would leave behind an abyss of plotholes. That being said, the TYBW arc did not utilize its fullest potential, one which it had to be a truly great arc seeing as how the first half of that arc with the Quincy invasion of Soul Society was peak Bleach, due to Kubo's deteriorating health forcing him to wrap things up in a haphazard manner; the CFYOW sequels showing just how much elaboration was available. You are right about Naruto falling apart after Madara though, because unlike the following two arcs of Bleach, Kaguya literally contributed nothing to the world of Naruto or its characters, and was clearly primarily written to remedy Kishimoto writing himself into a corner with Madara.

Impact is also irrelevant here, because although Dragon Ball may have revolutionized shounen, it doesn't change the fact that compared to almost all the battle shounen it's inspired, it's incredibly basic today with atrocious pacing and has aged like milk. I won't say it's bad though, sure, due to its early conventions never seen before in the medium.

Hail_Lelouch said:
In terms of animation Demon Slayer, and in terms of fight scenes and longevity Hunter X Hunter

AquaBlue-sama said:

Attack on Titan is a SHONEN, and no it's not better nor mature than any of the shonen (except for MHA), AoT is the "i'm 14 and this is deep"
and the ending of the manga clearly prove that the mangaka doesn't know how to write stories

Katou81 said:
My Hero academia is better than all of those combined

Phosphophyllita said:
Attack on Titan is seinen, it is better written and more mature than all "battle shounen"

Katou81 said:
My Hero academia is better than all of those combined

MrNegr0 said:
Hunter x Hunter is the peak of battle oriented shounen. And lmao at the notion that seinen is inherently better than shounen.

Mosesaa said:
And HxH have all those things.

There is no option for downvote ,so it can be helped.

Mosesaa said:
When did i say HxH have better fights than Naruto? I said HxH have all those things you mentioned.

Also, Emperor Times >>> all of the moves in Naruto.
Chrollo and team manipulating auction >>>> all of the strategies in Naruto. 🥱

And if you want to have actual discussion, then stop listing and prove, how those things are better in Naruto.

Mosesaa said:
When did i say HxH have better fights than Naruto? I said HxH have all those things you mentioned.

Also, Emperor Times >>> all of the moves in Naruto.
Chrollo and team manipulating auction >>>> all of the strategies in Naruto. 🥱

And if you want to have actual discussion, then stop listing and prove, how those things are better in Naruto.

Mosesaa said:
Niqqa learn how to have discussion,y you did nothing new ,just listed things again. How those moves are interesting, so what they have more moves. They all are lame , especially Madara. What's the meaning of all those moves when he f*king died a lame death.

Now, let my tell you why Kurapika's Emperor Time is most interesting move and
better than any of those you mentioned.

Kurapika have 5-6 hatsu ,each of his hatsus seem to be developed for the practical purpose to solve a problem, the problem of finding people, the problem of getting accurate information, the problem of being much weaker and inexperienced, the problem of very likely getting extreme injury, the problem of getting co-operation, the problem of working alone.

And the 5th and most important hatsu literally describe his character, how he feels about PPL around, to deal with the problem he faced in Yorknew City. The one which not only helps him, but his friends.

You can see how much work he put in his ability and how creative it is.


Another delusional Naruto fanboy crying and seething despite he knows how much Naruto sucks.

Itachi at 21 is more lame than Sakura at 13.


@Schwarznight Imagine finding hype in fodder character getting their asses kicked. Nah, there isn't such thing (on that level) in HxH and i don't want it.

Mosesaa said:
@Schwarznight you are so cute. When thrown with facts and logic you started crying and used the same old, cliched response."You must be child","I don't argue with kids".

I never said HxH fights are better than Naruto, So I don't know why you keep bringing this in discussion.

We were discussing about moves and creativity. Which i already proved how HxH is above its beta version.

Mosesaa said:
How it is more cooler?

Finding your opponent move isn't strategy.

How it's more creative? prove. You are just listing things, nothing more.

How it is better? Coz you are saying?