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| And that brings us to the end of the Magia Record storyline. Honestly, it kind of ended like the previous instalments without any sort of solid conclusion but just about enough to tie some stuff up. Seems like the events were just labelled as some kind of natural disaster and terrorist attack by the media and only a few of the magical girls are aware of the true events. Shaft and its unique use of imagery, always great to watch! Interesting to see God Madoka there too closing the record book and Homura-chan travelling back in time, that proves this is but just a side-story after all, lol. Alina turning out to be the villain when she saw her opportunity was coming for a while but it didn't last long xD so it felt odd. At least the battle ost when she showed up was fire though! Motivation-wise, it was serviceable I suppose. Touka-chan & Nemu-chan going out on a blaze in an attempt to save their Iroha-oneesan was touching to see. Also, that whole conversion scene of Iroha trying to stop them was nice. They probably changed gears a bit too fast lol but let's not get into that. Parallel of Yachiyo in the train with her past teammates and Iroha with Ui in front of what seemed like a silhouette of the tree was great. Iroha then coming to an understanding with her shadow and I think in the process saving everyone was nice to see. Iroha's power of collection compiled the powers of all the magical girls to fire that beam to Alina's mixture with Walpurgisnacht. Honestly, I'm not quite sure what that initial blast which made Yachiyo wonder if she passed away was all about anymore. And if Alina did manage to merge with Walpurgisnacht, what was the point of Touka, Ui and Nemu's sacrifice? Beautiful ED theme in the end, there! I was thinking that'd serve as the ED theme for all the episodes but guess not, I suppose this does hit harder in this way after all. I've heard that the game follows a different route that isn't as sad as this one so I might be tempted to getting back at the game again soon. Only problem is that it stopped working a while back so here's to hoping it's fixed and available in my region now. Going to settle with a generous 7/10 here. It is but a side-story but even then it definitely stands on its own, imo. If anything, Shaft just showing off is in itself a treat. @__Koyomi__ All 4 episodes are out on CR now. |
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| Good ending to this show, but as a whole, this franchise isn't anything amazing. |
SerafosFeb 7, 1:58 AM
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| MagiReco time, hate how they release all the eps at once, would’ve preferred to savour it over the next month or so |
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| So just to get some things straight. |
| If anything this ep is the one that imparted the best sense of despair while matching it with the boundless rays of hope that comes from having close friends that care for you. But seeing them actually get backup from the other magical girls in the city was nice to see. Alina role changing was a welcome change. Yachiyo's convo with the magic of her departed friends while being a nice touch also did well to expand upon the nature of her powers too. Combining Iroha's newfound determination and acceptance with her sisters ability into a solution to the crisis was a smart move. Overall a decent end to the series though i wished that Alina had put up more of a fight to them. But this series did well to showcase the fact that physical fights against witches are just one half of their struggle for the fight against despair is also another active war front. Shame that we only saw Madoka and her team once though. But in the end the series fulfilled its overall goal of creating a story that shows the kind of pain that MG's live with unseen and unheard by the common people. |
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| So… I just finished it and I really did want to like the ending… I definitely thought the girls’ sacrifice at the end was emotional, felt the heart strings tugging a lot. Kuroe’s death also hurt, but overall everything was just bang average. Idk I enjoyed the build up to this in season 2 despite the changes from the game, but I guess the finale was always due to fall on its face. The girls deserved better. That said, I don’t regret anything. I did enjoy the MagiReco anime a lot and I love the girls. I would love to get more of them, but idk how a chapter 2 adaptation would work with all the changes they made. It feels like SHAFT kinda wanna move on from the game and focus on the rebellion sequel. Madoka closing the book in the final scene felt like SHAFT closing the book literally on MagiReco. 7/10. |
Marinate1016Apr 3, 2022 11:21 AM
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| That was a good 4 episodes finale, RIP all the girls that perished while everything was happening. The Ending was beautiful too, a colabo between two of my favorite bands, it is as much of a happy ending as you can get on the series and Homura off to another loop. And so they lived suffering ever after.* *A lot of Magical Girls were harmed in the making of this show. |
| I guess the ending was somewhat satisfying, basically implying that this was another bad-ending timeline that Homura saw. The ride to get to the end, however, was not pleasant. I sincerely hope that the team get their shit together for the new Madoka movie, both from animation and story perspective. |
| Original is a masterpiece and easily one of the top 10 of my fav. But this is just garbage adaptation of Gatcha Game. Shitton of irrelevant characters wasting screen time, each as interesting as Kirito, which effectively turns this spinoof into s chore. At least 4th movie is coming, so I'll be working on repressing this from my memory, I guess. |
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| They speed ran the entire storyline in the last episode, Alina really needed more of an explanation, the original cast did not do much despite how much focus they got the prior season as well. I guess it makes sense in context of the overall story, Madoka Magica is the true canon and this is just another failed timeline, no one except ultimate madoka and the main characters in this show will ever even remember what happened but their story happened and their struggles were real. |
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| That ending was so bad, I love it. I can't justify rating this with any kind of dignified score, but just know, on the sliding scale of "so bat it's good" this rates a 10/10 for me. I thoroughly enjoyed just how much of a trainwreck of an ending we just witnessed. |
| Wow, the last 4 episodes of the show were sakuga fest and even the story made some sort of sense (in universe). |
| Mixed feelings here. Can't say I liked it. Left a sour taste in my mouth. To conclude this... We see Homura going back in time - so, this entire show was pointless? I'm confused... They say that no one will remember Magia record, but I think there was a pretty solid hint of Madoka (in goddess mode) taking the book from Iroha (likely sometime in the future when Iroha dies and joins the trio under the tree). If that's true, will Madoka remember it, I wonder? Currently she can't even remember her own past thanks to Homura lol. And, even if she does remember, what will change??? I mean, Homura and Madoka will eventually change the fabrics of the world, so it's possible that all the deaths we saw, will not happen in every timeline, right??? In original Madoka we already see that the dead can be brought back, so I wonder if the 4th movie will mention characters of this anime. I will be a bit disappointed if they don't appear, at least for 1-2 seconds. |
Sigmar-UnberogenApr 3, 2022 2:41 PM
Sigmar-Unberogen said: Mixed feelings here. Can't say I liked it. Left a sour taste in my mouth. To conclude this... We see Homura going back in time - so, this entire show was pointless? One thing I do want to mention is that, this is sort of the whole point of Madoka Magica, everything pre Madokami is pointless since every single thing you see happen was undone. That doesn't invalidate it however, the suffering people went through still happened, the stories still happened, it doesn't throw it all away and Madoka is still aware of how every universe plays out. |
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| Magia Record was solid, However it pales in comparison to Madoka Magica. |
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| Finally, Magia Record: Mahou Shoujo Madoka☆Magica Gaiden has ended with good ending. I'd say "good ending" but they still become Mahou Shoujo, at least this is the best thing for them. my favorite part is when Iroha Tamaki show her dark side after she failed to save her friend Kuroe but fortunately she has saved by her other friends by sharing their feelings. Overall I love this Series, so much better than the original. ED song by Claris x Trysail also great. Moment at the end of the show say "This is our Record, a Record that no one knows." are make me sad, I guess this is true since Magia Record are not popular as the original but I'm glad if someone can enjoy watching this series as much as I do.  |
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| They changed a lot of things, so that it's a failed timeline of Madoka Magica instead of a record where everyone lives happily ever after. Seeing Homura going back in time, I suspect Madoka, and all other Kamihama Magical girls might have died. This doesn't happen in original Magia Record. Magia Record Anime is a failed loop of Magia Record Game. But I think that's the way to go when you have to keep everyone alive for gatcha purpose. Sad thing is most of these magical girls are already dead in main timeline. It's an end, leaves me unsatisfied, but I guess that's a truth about every failed record (or timeline). But this ties with similar concepts we see in Rebellion, like Sayaka calling her witch to fight (which is nothing but a Doppel), Tiro Duet (It's a Connect). We saw these things in movie but Magia Record gave a name and origin to them. The end tells us there won't be more of Magia Record. But it'll be interesting to see cameos of Mr in future Madoka Magica projects. I wish they had adapted the wraith arc instead. |
salarxApr 4, 2022 5:26 AM
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| Never played the game but just based on the story structure it's pretty clear this adaptation had the potential to be a lot better than it was. |
Go to this thread https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=2005814 |
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| ... to those saying this is a failed of Magia Record game, its not. tl;dr, |
_KaoriniteApr 4, 2022 8:53 AM
| This season could surely have been better with a few more episodes. Perhaps they ran out of budget. Iroha being saved by the power of friendship (pretty much) from her dopple at the beginning of the episode was quite uncharacteristic of a Puella Magi Madoka☆Magika story. A few more episodes, perhaps. |
| Thank you, and God bless the whales. |
| And to this day, I still don't fully understand the point of Alina's role in all this. So... did she help Nemu and Touka because... she felt like it, because she was bored or what? Anyways, underwhelming finale for an overall mediocre adaptation. Shaft sure can't help but keep ruining this wonderful franchise, huh? Shallow motivations, lame antagonists, underdeveloped side-characters, inconsistent production values, poor handling of schedules, etc. Honestly, I'm happy this train-wreck finally came to an end. 4/10 - Praying with all my heart that nothing of this gets referenced in the upcoming Madoka Magica movie. -Season 1: 5/10 -Season 2: 6/10 (because original cast) -Final Season: 4/10 |
| 95% of the characters are bland, unidimensional girls just fighting and screaming. None of the "emotionals" moments works because none of them really matters. The direction is worse in this season. That moment when Iroha hugged Ui for the first time had so little effort that seemed uninportant. And at the end all plots are finished at the same time (Alina who? What? Why?) What a mess, for a anime that supposed to be a record to be remembered, its very forgettable 3/10 for this season 3/10 for magia record |
LambdaMan93 said: The scene in the train with Yachiyo talking to those two people we have NEVER seen before in this series, a scene that is probably meant to evoke some emotional response, and falls flat completely due to the complete lack of context or background... The two girls in the train (Kanae and Mel) did appear in the series before. They were shown/introduced in Yachiyo's backstory flashback during the Museum chapter near the end of Season 1. The former died by having her Soul Gem broken in battle, and the latter exhausted all her magic in a separate battle and turned into a Witch. It's because of those two incidents that Yachiyo, Mifuyu and Momoko already knew the truth about Magical Girls long before Touka revealed it to the others girls. That said, I can't really blame you for having forgotten about them 'cause, yeah, this whole series was very badly rushed and I agree with your other points in general, as someone who actually played the game. |
OrororurandoApr 5, 2022 10:50 PM
| The ending was kind of all over the place... we got all our answers though I think. Lots of magical girls died so at least it's not a sappy ending. I think if Shaft adapted the OG story in a much more coherent way then the score of each season would bump up at least 0.5 points. 5/10 |
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metalmonstar said: SouthRzVa said: And to this day, I still don't fully understand the point of Alina's role in all this. So... did she help Nemu and Touka because... she felt like it, because she was bored or what? To be fair it was confusing in the game as well. She just kind of shows up and everyone is cool with her being part of this trio. she's a top tier waifu so of course she had to be shoved in somewhere lol |
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bakiomari said: This season could surely have been better with a few more episodes. Perhaps they ran out of budget. Iroha being saved by the power of friendship (pretty much) from her dopple at the beginning of the episode was quite uncharacteristic of a Puella Magi Madoka☆Magika story. A few more episodes, perhaps. I think before changing anything to do with budget and scheduling, the story Shaft adapted itself has to be rearranged such that we actually understand something in the previous seasons. Then maybe the ending will have more payoff |
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| That's it?! The fearsome Walpurgisnacht which Alina sacrificed herself to fuse with got one-shotted by Iroha and Yachiyo with no context whatsoever? Her being saved easily at the start by the crew was also lame It's finally over, stuck this long to know what the f happened to Ui and the 2 other girls in the hospital and the backstory delivered. Everything else was such a snoozefest saved by Shaft's brilliance in the animation department |
MikiKiwi said: As a die hard fan of the Madoka Franchise and obviously the game I am pretty disappointed. By having such an unhappy ending they ruined the whole reason 'Magia Record' as a timeline was allowed to exist by Madokami. Its suppose to be the one when they actually defeat Walpurgisnacht. I know they would have needed way more episodes to even get half of the game story across, but that would have been way better then this attempt at an alternate super sad ending. well defeating Walpurgisnacht is one aspect of the timeline, but not the most relevant. The reason why Madokami didn't interfere with this timeline during the great rewrite (replace witches with wraiths) is because this little failed experiment of Magius actually saved / prolonged the lives of many magical girls. In other timelines Iroha never made contract, and that alone changes the fate of many magical girls. |
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Byniavo said: bakiomari said: This season could surely have been better with a few more episodes. Perhaps they ran out of budget. Iroha being saved by the power of friendship (pretty much) from her dopple at the beginning of the episode was quite uncharacteristic of a Puella Magi Madoka☆Magika story. A few more episodes, perhaps. I think before changing anything to do with budget and scheduling, the story Shaft adapted itself has to be rearranged such that we actually understand something in the previous seasons. Then maybe the ending will have more payoff Ja, I agree. It seemed like Shaft themselves forgot what the story was as they went along. I do hope this failure does not reflect future Puella Magi Madoka☆Magika titles. That would surely be unfortunate. |
| Thank you, and God bless the whales. |
| Bye Bye Ui, Nemu and Touka bye bye Alina Bye Bye Magia Record and Bye Bye Homura who goes onto another jump back in time to search for the timeline bringing you Salvation... poor Girl and probably Rip All of Madoka squad, but it's a timeline where Madoka managed to kill Walpurgisnacht before dying.  Poor Iroha too the Uwasa of "the Eternal Sakura" didn't fulfill and she didn't get to keep Ui or even a single of her other two "Sisters" Nemu or Touka... Rip her 3 Sisters. |
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