86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
| More production issue it seems. https://twitter.com/anime_eightysix/status/1462080291141402624?t=dy1PjxB6_rQwI6xjgkhNgQ&s=19 |
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| Good, so now will be extended up to next year. |
| Some real production issues happening behind the scenes, it's not pretty having 3 weeks worth of episodes end up with 1 episode and 2 special episodes. It's killing the momentum of the cour to some degree, just when I was finally getting into this season a bit. It'd probably change on rewatch but idk at least for now, definitely some troubling signs hearing the constant delays here and potential delays still to come in December. |
| It’s fine. I’d rather wait another week than have a badly animated episode. The staff has given so much love to this series, so I don’t mind the delays if it means a better episode. The animation in today’s episode 7 was better than episode 6 2 weeks ago, and it’s still going strong. I don’t see why anyone would get pessimistic if this is for the better. I mean it’s just an extra week of wait. Maybe it’s just me cause I’ve read the source material. |
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imagine_aincrad7 said: It was episode 7 delay news two weeks ago which already aired tonight. This thread is about episode 8 delay which was supposed to air next week but now it won't.It will Air tomorrow. The delay was confirmed 2 weeks ago lmao. |
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| Wow, is actually nice to see so many poeple in this thread being understanding of the issue and not complaining about having to wait another week to see an episode of the favorite animu like you see so often here on MAL. |
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| as long as it comes out I'll be fine with it. Tomorrow should be good with 86 and Mushouku on the same day. |
| At this rate I wait for the season to come to an end before binging the rest in one go. |
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| Damn that's disappointing. I hope these production issues won't affect future sequels or anything like that but I'm probably getting too ahead now. I'm glad they're delaying the episodes instead of releasing them in botched states. |
| A bit annoying. I hope they won't continue releasing only every 2 weeks and between that some "special". Could have just put it on hold a bit completely ... airing something else for a few weeks then. |
| many "production issues" occurring recently. I assume virus related, or home working pc capabilities issues. |
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| If these delays are the price we pay for perfection then so be it. I wish more studios could take all the time they needed to make higher quality anime. |
| Another delay. But we getting special episode it seems. More production issues?? awts |
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| Delay due to production issues i have no problem with that to get a good animation like ep 5 and 6 . 86 is geting good with each episode |
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| Considering this is the second episode that gets postponed, I'm a bit concerned with how the production will be for the upcoming seasons if they're at all happening. Anyway, it doesn't sound good. |
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samashi20 said: Considering this is the second episode that gets postponed, I'm a bit concerned with how the production will be for the upcoming seasons if they're at all happening. Anyway, it doesn't sound good. Hopefully there will be another season and hopefully lessons will be learned. Regardless, I think this was the right decision for a crappy situation. |
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F9s said: Its an unfortunate situation but if this means getting quality episodes instead of rushed episodes, I think this is the right call. They need all the time they need to make these high quality episodes, especially now with the large scale battles that will happen. Also, this is just me but I'm beginning to suspect the issues is not with A-1 entirely but also with Studio Shirogumi as well (the studio that did the CGI). I am likely incorrect but I think its taking alot of effort even for the CGI team to animate the upcoming battles. The morpho will be really hard to animate. No spoilers, but if its specs are anything to go by, it’s like really huge. |
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| cant criticize anyone with lack info about whos at fault here, but im really worried we wont see the end of cour 2 airing. with so many delays mean the final episode will get pushed to next year. i mean theres already several case like that before where the final episode will air independently outside the usual seasonal schedule (like an OVA/ONA) or only watchable if you buy the DVD/BD OR worse situation (which i doubt will happen) the episode get cut... and the definitive edition and complete animation will be in BD release |
tuyetthan8x said: Hesmiyu said: I don't think so. Japan has reopened completely and with very few deaths.many "production issues" occurring recently. I assume virus related, or home working pc capabilities issues. as of November 19th via... "KYODO NEWS. TOKYO – Japan has inoculated 75.7 percent of its population with two COVID-19 shots, according to government data released Thursday." so i'd say, it's not a work-from-home problem for the Japanese folks... but do we know EVERYBODY who's working on the show? outsourcing is STILL a huge problem for anime. as we saw with 'Spider-sekai' when their CGA 'partner' dropped the ball Millepensee had to rush through, what was it? 3 or 4 WEEKS of in-house CGA to get the final eps out? and we all know how 'icky' that work looked... :/ |
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wilfang said: 0451 said: Damn that's disappointing. I hope these production issues won't affect future sequels or anything like that but I'm probably getting too ahead now. I'm glad they're delaying the episodes instead of releasing them in botched states. Yes, constant delay may be underwhelming, but it also means that the production committee (i.e. investors) cares about the anime. Airing time slots on Japanese TV are purchased by season (3 months), so any delay means that additional time slot need to be bought to air the remaining episodes that can't be aired before the season ends. That's a major factor why sometimes production committee of certain anime would want to avoid the extra hassle and rather let the anime aired in botched states. 86 is really in good hands, not only anime studio-wise but also investor-wise. i gotta agree with this guy, example 'Shield Hero S2'... they announced the delay WELL before the known broadcast start date this year and moved it to NEXT year... they were so far ahead in announcing it... that if you count every month from the announcement date of the delay till the NEW broadcast month... they KNEW they were NINE MONTHS BEHIND SCHEDULE... :o could you imagine telling the 'big Yen folks' running things... 'eh eh heh... uhhh guys? we're over half a year behind... we need more time!' that's not something you can knock on top of your head, stick your tongue out, and go 'TeeHee!' like a little girl and get away with... :> |
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| here's a little more info... from the official 86 website, "Thank you very much for watching the TV anime "86 - Eighty Six". This time, the 19th episode, which was scheduled to be broadcast and distributed sequentially from Saturday, November 27, will be changed due to production reasons. We are very sorry that everyone who is looking forward to broadcasting will be kept waiting. Due to the change in the broadcast date and time, on Saturday, November 27, we will deliver the TV anime "86 - Eighty Six" Special Edition "If It Dies and Is Worth It". In addition, the broadcast on Saturday, December 11 will be suspended due to special organization. Please check this schedule for details on future broadcasts. ◆ December 4 (Sat) 24:00 ~ Episode 19 "Is it as it is" ◆ " source: https://anime-86.com/news/?id=59171 translated via my MSEdge browser. :) |
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| Not long to wait now... FUCKIN’ GLORY TO THE SPEARHEAD SQVADRON !!! |
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| wait after 2 delays and a special we get another delay? wut? I have been watching airing anime for quite some time but this is really bad |
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Comander-07 said: wait after 2 delays and a special we get another delay? wut? I have been watching airing anime for quite some time but this is really bad yes there is a 3rd delay. ep 19 has been moved to DEC 4th and the DEC 11th episode 20 has been delayed ALSO. i just read the official Japanese website for the show and the DEC 11th episode has NOT been rescheduled as yet! i'm personally expecting the DEC 11th episode to be moved to DEC 18th. PERHAPS the DEC 18th episode will be moved to DEC 25th after Christmas but don't hold your breath. unfortunately with New Year's Eve and Day falling on a Friday and Saturday this year do NOT expect an episode that Saturday EITHER! many MANY shows take the whole NewYear's WEEK off in Japan. :( there's lots of TV specials and suchforth in Japan during New Year's week that preempt normally scheduled broadcasts so... shrug! nobody really knows when all the 'delayed' episodes after ep19 will show up. |
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| At this point, I don't even know how they will air the last two episodes after the delays, and I wonder about their airing rights. |
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KiliianSleipnir said: wow thats the worst airing schedule I have ever witnessed, not counting multiple month delays of final episodes.Comander-07 said: wait after 2 delays and a special we get another delay? wut? I have been watching airing anime for quite some time but this is really bad yes there is a 3rd delay. ep 19 has been moved to DEC 4th and the DEC 11th episode 20 has been delayed ALSO. i just read the official Japanese website for the show and the DEC 11th episode has NOT been rescheduled as yet! i'm personally expecting the DEC 11th episode to be moved to DEC 18th. PERHAPS the DEC 18th episode will be moved to DEC 25th after Christmas but don't hold your breath. unfortunately with New Year's Eve and Day falling on a Friday and Saturday this year do NOT expect an episode that Saturday EITHER! many MANY shows take the whole NewYear's WEEK off in Japan. :( there's lots of TV specials and suchforth in Japan during New Year's week that preempt normally scheduled broadcasts so... shrug! nobody really knows when all the 'delayed' episodes after ep19 will show up. How can you even run into production issues of this scale? Especially when some of the delays were planned? At this point I would rather have them reschedule the rest of the season entirely instead of getting an episode maybe every other week. |
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addie1998 said: KiliianSleipnir said: yes there is a 3rd delay. ep 19 has been moved to DEC 4th and the DEC 11th episode 20 has been delayed ALSO. i just read the official Japanese website for the show and the DEC 11th episode has NOT been rescheduled as yet! i'm personally expecting the DEC 11th episode to be moved to DEC 18th. PERHAPS the DEC 18th episode will be moved to DEC 25th after Christmas but don't hold your breath. unfortunately with New Year's Eve and Day falling on a Friday and Saturday this year do NOT expect an episode that Saturday EITHER! many MANY shows take the whole NewYear's WEEK off in Japan. :( there's lots of TV specials and suchforth in Japan during New Year's week that preempt normally scheduled broadcasts so... shrug! nobody really knows when all the 'delayed' episodes after ep19 will show up. Episode 20 will not be delayed since they already released the synopsis but after that idk haha DEC 11th episode 20 has been delayed. the news was released on the show's official website as far back as NOV 21, 2021. read it yourself in Japanese here: https://anime-86.com/news/?id=59171 or read my MS Edge translation here: [start quote] 2021.11.21 notice of future broadcast date and time change Thank you very much for watching the TV anime "86 - Eighty Six". This time, the 19th episode, which was scheduled to be broadcast and distributed sequentially from Saturday, November 27, will be changed due to production reasons. We are very sorry that everyone who is looking forward to broadcasting will be kept waiting. Due to the change in the broadcast date and time, on Saturday, November 27, we will deliver the TV anime "86 - Eighty Six" Special Edition "If It Dies and Is Worth It". In addition, the broadcast on Saturday, December 11 will be suspended due to special organization. Please check this schedule for details on future broadcasts. === < broadcast schedule > ◆Saturday, November 27 24:00~ TV anime "86 - Eighty Six" Special Edition "If It Dies and Becomes Worth it" ◆ December 4 (Sat) 24:00 ~ Episode 19 "Is it as it is" ◆ December 11 (Sat) 24:00 ~ It will be suspended for special organization. === All the staff will do their utmost to achieve works that meet the expectations of the fans, so thank you for your understanding. We look forward to your continued support of the TV anime "86- Eighty Six". 86 Production Committee [end quote] of course this is all MTL so, shrug, errors are expected. |
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Comander-07 said: KiliianSleipnir said: wow thats the worst airing schedule I have ever witnessed, not counting multiple month delays of final episodes.yes there is a 3rd delay. ep 19 has been moved to DEC 4th and the DEC 11th episode 20 has been delayed ALSO. i just read the official Japanese website for the show and the DEC 11th episode has NOT been rescheduled as yet! i'm personally expecting the DEC 11th episode to be moved to DEC 18th. PERHAPS the DEC 18th episode will be moved to DEC 25th after Christmas but don't hold your breath. unfortunately with New Year's Eve and Day falling on a Friday and Saturday this year do NOT expect an episode that Saturday EITHER! many MANY shows take the whole NewYear's WEEK off in Japan. :( there's lots of TV specials and suchforth in Japan during New Year's week that preempt normally scheduled broadcasts so... shrug! nobody really knows when all the 'delayed' episodes after ep19 will show up. How can you even run into production issues of this scale? Especially when some of the delays were planned? At this point I would rather have them reschedule the rest of the season entirely instead of getting an episode maybe every other week. 'Marchen Madchen' was worse. it got delayed either 4 or 5 times for more than a week each episode and then it got canceled because the studio violated the terms of their contracts with the TV networks. the final 2 episodes were never released except on DVD/BR. from what i read online at the time the Japanese studio blamed a labor dispute causing a strike at the S. Vietnam studio they'd outsourced much of the show to. net-buddy of mine who's Vietnamese told me that labor dispute had been going on for months before the anime aired in Japan and that the entire SV studio went bankrupt and everybody lost their jobs because of the strike. 'Beatless' was even worse than '86' or 'Marchen Madchen'. there were... 4 RECAP episodes in the first 20 eps, and the final four episodes weren't put up on TV for 3 MONTHS after the 20th episode was broadcast. there's other shows in the past that have had major production issues... we certainly can't forget 'Wonder Egg Priority'... :< |
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addie1998 said: Comander-07 said: wow thats the worst airing schedule I have ever witnessed, not counting multiple month delays of final episodes. How can you even run into production issues of this scale? Especially when some of the delays were planned? At this point I would rather have them reschedule the rest of the season entirely instead of getting an episode maybe every other week. Well blame aniplex for it, they know how much work and scale this series needs and they pushed it anyway i doubt it's ANIPLEX Japan's problem... if A-1 Pictures and their other partners on '86' need more time, they just need more time. |
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| [quote=addie1998 message=65109028][quote=KiliianSleipnir message=65108215][quote=addie1998 message=65106947] Comander-07 said: KiliianSleipnir said: i doubt it's ANIPLEX Japan's problem... if A-1 Pictures and their other partners on '86' need more time, they just need more time. Aniplex owns A-1 so yeah mmmkay? annnd this impacts the conversation how? for an example SONY Jp owns a majority of stock in Funimation, but doesn't make all their decisions for them. no corporation even ANIPLEX who are JUST producers, make all the choices FOR their subsidiaries. ANI's just the ones setting initial budgets and such. they don't make all the decisions, staffing, manpower, assignments, how much is outsourced to other studios, who gets hired or fired or re-assigned... so blaming it ALL on ANIPLEX is just a short-sighted knee-jerk response. that's just like blaming AT&T for all of Crunchyroll's problems before they sold it to SONY. the animator sitting at his work-station thinking, 'oh i wanna smoke break.' or 'gee i gotta pee.' or 'man i'm bored! when's lunch?' isn't worried that ANIPLEX is gonna stomp a mud-hole in his ass for piddling at work. he's worried about his IMMEDIATE boss doing it. the only folks at A-1 Pictures who probably give a crap about what ANIPLEX thinks are the directors, the department heads below or above the directors, and the A-1 Pictures' 'big bosses'. crap just happens, accept it and move on. |
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KiliianSleipnir said: ah MM rings a bell.Comander-07 said: wow thats the worst airing schedule I have ever witnessed, not counting multiple month delays of final episodes. How can you even run into production issues of this scale? Especially when some of the delays were planned? At this point I would rather have them reschedule the rest of the season entirely instead of getting an episode maybe every other week. 'Marchen Madchen' was worse. it got delayed either 4 or 5 times for more than a week each episode and then it got canceled because the studio violated the terms of their contracts with the TV networks. the final 2 episodes were never released except on DVD/BR. from what i read online at the time the Japanese studio blamed a labor dispute causing a strike at the S. Vietnam studio they'd outsourced much of the show to. net-buddy of mine who's Vietnamese told me that labor dispute had been going on for months before the anime aired in Japan and that the entire SV studio went bankrupt and everybody lost their jobs because of the strike. 'Beatless' was even worse than '86' or 'Marchen Madchen'. there were... 4 RECAP episodes in the first 20 eps, and the final four episodes weren't put up on TV for 3 MONTHS after the 20th episode was broadcast. there's other shows in the past that have had major production issues... we certainly can't forget 'Wonder Egg Priority'... :< See, thats why I said not counting multiple month delays of final episodes because that happens all the time. Missing 4 eps in 20 is one thing, but missing 4 in 8 is even worse. |
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