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Aug 4, 2021 9:35 PM
#1
| Im starting fate and started with fate/Zero |
Aug 4, 2021 9:46 PM
#2
| Fate zero and then fate stay night ubw and then heavens feel |
Aug 4, 2021 9:48 PM
#3
| All fates are canon in their own universe, if you want to understand it, refer to this video - https://youtu.be/UzNSWmokCdU |
InyOuRsiGhtAug 4, 2021 9:51 PM
Aug 4, 2021 9:48 PM
#4
| First is Fate/Stay Night (Saber Rute) > Fate/Zero (have a massive spoiler for FSN Saber Rute) > Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works (Rin Tohsaka Rute) > Fate/Stay Night Heavens Feel (Sakura Matou rute). Based on release order. |
Aug 4, 2021 9:51 PM
#5
FireBug2005 said: Fate zero and then fate stay night ubw and then heavens feel Those two are two different routes not sequel, but if you are saying how to watch it, then it's ok |
Aug 4, 2021 9:51 PM
#6
| Well if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 4, 2021 9:53 PM
#7
Radicalgamer671 said: it's a good choice you made, but I would've recommended to start with UBWIm starting fate and started with fate/Zero |
Aug 4, 2021 9:56 PM
#8
| If you’re just watching the anime there’s no perfect place to start. I recommend starting with Zero, but there are also good reasons to start with UBW instead. |
Aug 4, 2021 11:24 PM
#9
| Well if you have started with Zero then Continue with Fate/Stay Night Unlimited balde works and then Fate/Stay Night Heaven's Feel. Also there's a Unlimited Blade works movie but that's not the one you should watch. |
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Aug 4, 2021 11:36 PM
#10
| Fate/Stay Night Visual Novel Realta Nua (Best Fate by Far) there is a guide on reddit about how to download it After you finished the Novel go Read Zero Then you are free to watch anything you want from there except Grand Order animes If you cant or dont want to play novel 1-Fate Stay Night (2006) 2-Fate Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks (2014) 3-Fate Stay Night Heaven's Feel Movies 4-Fate Zero |
Aug 5, 2021 12:39 AM
#11
| EVERYTHING IS CANON...., Talking about watch order,the best watch order according to me is 1.fate/zero 2.fate/stay night ubw 3.Fate/stay night heaven's fee 4.fate/stay night (2006) The reason why I'm suggesting you to watch fate stay night 2006 in end is it spoiles almost every other fate routes, it wasn't done properly but still it's a classic. |
Aug 5, 2021 12:41 AM
#12
purification1 said: are you kidding me ? Fate/zero is canon.Well if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 12:53 AM
#13
| Starting from fate stay night 2006 would be best but the adaptation is really mediocre so start from UBW by ufotable and then watch zero after that u can watch heaven's feel |
Aug 5, 2021 1:37 AM
#14
| The best is just to watch it how u want bcuz everything is canon and a lot of universes in it. |
Aug 5, 2021 2:01 AM
#15
 "Genius lives only one story above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Aug 5, 2021 2:05 AM
#16
Aug 5, 2021 3:28 AM
#17
| Just start whichever seems more interesting to you it doesn't really matter which you start as long as you enjoy the series you can watch the other series without order but if you still want a list just start with fate Zero,The UBW , Heavens feel and after that you can just watch what ever you like |
Aug 5, 2021 4:59 AM
#19
| Personally, I started with Fate / Zero and continued with Ubw, had no problems understanding the story in this sequence. But as many have already said, the order doesn't really matter, but I would recommend this to you. |
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Aug 5, 2021 5:02 AM
#20
| After the main series, there's no order. Everything is contained within its own alternate reality and you can watch anything at any time |
| Stuff in the streets, Stuff with drip in the sheets |
Aug 5, 2021 5:56 AM
#21
| I’ll make this short and sweet. The main Fate series, in anime form, is a bit of a jumbled mess. The general order is Fate/stay night (2006) -> Fate/UBW -> Fate/HF -> Fate/Zero. A lot of people will tell you 2006 is optional because it’s a poor adaptation and I tend to agree with them. Many fans will also tell you to read the visual novel for the purest fate experience and I do agree with them there. In general, it’s just better to stick with the source material with any media, bur Fate especially so. |
Aug 5, 2021 8:51 AM
#22
Shank_sri said: nasu did not create fate/zero plus the amount of spoilers this prequel gives it’s not necessary until after you finish all three routespurification1 said: are you kidding me ? Fate/zero is canon.Well if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 10:19 AM
#23
| There isn’t an order lol. It’s just all over the place. |
Aug 5, 2021 2:25 PM
#24
Sayak_Sama said: this video is amazing. Garnt is a madlad for this one even though it took him a year to make the video.All fates are canon in their own universe, if you want to understand it, refer to this video - https://youtu.be/UzNSWmokCdU |
Aug 5, 2021 2:27 PM
#25
purification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 2:28 PM
#26
MilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 2:36 PM
#27
purification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: Well if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 2:45 PM
#28
MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: purification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 3:02 PM
#29
purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: MilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 3:03 PM
#30
Radicalgamer671 said: Whats the fate series order, just the canon fates-Im starting fate and started with fate/Zero Were you just trying to start a war? LoL... This is like asking if Geralt "canonically" ends up with Yen or Triss, or whether the Imperials or Stormcloaks "canonically" win the war in Skyrim... |
Aug 5, 2021 3:09 PM
#31
MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: lol imagine getting your info from trashtaste. Listen I never said the other routes weren’t canon dumbass I specifically said if you are referring to canon as only fate staynight then zero is not need and I gave each adaptation of each route. I don’t view cannon as only fate staynight but it’s not needed to watch or read staynight. Not making sense and not existing, being relevant ≠ not being canon a story can be straight forward and make sense but not be canonical to a continuity becuase of a difference in creators.purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 3:21 PM
#32
purification1 said: I don’t get my info from trash taste lol. It was just a take that seems to be 100% correct at this moment in time. Who ever referred to canon as fate stay night except for you? No one as far as I can tell. That’s why the is argument exists in the first place is arguing over whether fate stay night is the only canon, even though u seemed to say u don’t think stay night is the only canon just now which isn’t consistent with the basis for your first post. Furthermore, it’s easy to suggest more confusing watch orders after having entrenched yourself in the world for so long. But as far as I can tell, setting up the ubw climax with zero, which is a great story in and of itself, is the best way to go considering heavens feel are movies and more confusing and studio deen is garbage from an new audience perspective, and more generally too.MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: lol imagine getting your info from trashtaste. Listen I never said the other routes weren’t canon dumbass I specifically said if you are referring to canon as only fate staynight then zero is not need and I gave each adaptation of each route. I don’t view cannon as only fate staynight but it’s not needed to watch or read staynight. Not making sense and not existing, being relevant ≠ not being canon a story can be straight forward and make sense but not be canonical to a continuity becuase of a difference in creators.purification1 said: MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 3:47 PM
#33
MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I don’t get my info from trash taste lol. It was just a take that seems to be 100% correct at this moment in time. Who ever referred to canon as fate stay night except for you? No one as far as I can tell. That’s why the is argument exists in the first place is arguing over whether fate stay night is the only canon, even though u seemed to say u don’t think stay night is the only canon just now which isn’t consistent with the basis for your first post. Furthermore, it’s easy to suggest more confusing watch orders after having entrenched yourself in the world for so long. But as far as I can tell, setting up the ubw climax with zero, which is a great story in and of itself, is the best way to go considering heavens feel are movies and more confusing and studio deen is garbage from an new audience perspective, and more generally too.MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: what I said was not my opinion on what is canon obviously all the continuities are cannon by themselves but what I said was a suggestion i said if the person was referring to ONLY Fate staynight as “cannon” then I proceeded to give him a watch order . This person I’m assuming is using cannon wrong and I think he meant the main storyline which is fate/stay night and you can look at it as the only cannon continuity be used it is the original I do not do this. I simply asked what the person meant by cannon and gave a watch order based off my assumption of what they meant as cannon. You then go on a tantrum beucase my watch order is not to your likingpurification1 said: I don’t get my info from trash taste lol. It was just a take that seems to be 100% correct at this moment in time. Who ever referred to canon as fate stay night except for you? No one as far as I can tell. That’s why the is argument exists in the first place is arguing over whether fate stay night is the only canon, even though u seemed to say u don’t think stay night is the only canon just now which isn’t consistent with the basis for your first post. Furthermore, it’s easy to suggest more confusing watch orders after having entrenched yourself in the world for so long. But as far as I can tell, setting up the ubw climax with zero, which is a great story in and of itself, is the best way to go considering heavens feel are movies and more confusing and studio deen is garbage from an new audience perspective, and more generally too.MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 3:58 PM
#34
purification1 said: it was actually Bc u seemed to imply that zero was a spin off and not canon. Yes I disagreed with your watch order, but thats besides the point to the idea that the first time watch experience and noob introduction to a universe of unending questions and confusion seemed to take a backseat to being “correct”MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: lol imagine getting your info from trashtaste. Listen I never said the other routes weren’t canon dumbass I specifically said if you are referring to canon as only fate staynight then zero is not need and I gave each adaptation of each route. I don’t view cannon as only fate staynight but it’s not needed to watch or read staynight. Not making sense and not existing, being relevant ≠ not being canon a story can be straight forward and make sense but not be canonical to a continuity becuase of a difference in creators.purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: what I said was not my opinion on what is canon obviously all the continuities are cannon by themselves but what I said was a suggestion i said if the person was referring to ONLY Fate staynight as “cannon” then I proceeded to give him a watch order . This person I’m assuming is using cannon wrong and I think he meant the main storyline which is fate/stay night and you can look at it as the only cannon continuity be used it is the original I do not do this. I simply asked what the person meant by cannon and gave a watch order based off my assumption of what they meant as cannon. You then go on a tantrum beucase my watch order is not to your likingpurification1 said: MilanFillipi said: purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight MilanFillipi said: lol imagine getting your info from trashtaste. Listen I never said the other routes weren’t canon dumbass I specifically said if you are referring to canon as only fate staynight then zero is not need and I gave each adaptation of each route. I don’t view cannon as only fate staynight but it’s not needed to watch or read staynight. Not making sense and not existing, being relevant ≠ not being canon a story can be straight forward and make sense but not be canonical to a continuity becuase of a difference in creators.purification1 said: I now understand what Garnt, Connor, and Joey were referring to when talking about the toxic ass Fate fandom from the early years. “Thank you for providing me with existing information.” That’s the entire point dude. If it didn’t exist it wouldn’t be canonical, wouldn’t make sense, wouldn’t be relevant, and would be nothing more than fandom product unrelated to the actual events in the nasuverse. So thanks for telling me that I know what I am talking about. And viewing “canon” in the most narrow lens of fate/stay night is not only incorrect, unhelpful, and reinforces the stereotype of toxic fate fan, but it also forgets that the point of watching fate is to enjoy it, have fun, care about it and SHARE that positive experience with others. Not decrying a debatable interpretation disguised as irrefutable fact from the mountain top.MilanFillipi said: thank you for providing me with existing information. Fate/zero is a spin-off and in that essence is not “cannon” to fate/staynight. Plus seting up a newcomer with fate/ zero will just confuse them as it isn’t nasus work and the events are explained by urobuchi. Fate/staynight 06 as bad as a adaptation as it was is actually a solid show and I could and can argue that it has a better exposition than fate/zero, it lays out the rules of the fate/staynight continuity better then zero. In not saying zero is bad I loved it but it is not neededpurification1 said: it is canonical to the fate universe and the only reason that question about canonical consistency arises in the universe in the first place is because of the alternate timelines (routes) and parallel worlds (the fantasy tree history pruning phenomenon) and how confusing that gets, but it’s all still canon. And I think that it’s best to start with zero because ubw is an amazing experience and zero gives you some understanding of the rules of the world before you embark on the ubw journey. Plus that order makes it chronological which improves the experienceMilanFillipi said: tell me how this is factually incorrect you do not need zero to understand any of staynight tf. Zero came out after the staynight visual novel for a reasonpurification1 said: This is just factually incorrect. Please don’t base your understanding of fate on the comment aboveWell if you are referring to /staynight as “Canon” then Fate/staynight 2006 -> , Fate staynight Unlimited Blade Works (UBW) -> then finally the Fate/staynight Hevans feel trilogy. Fate/ zero is technically a spin-off and not canon to fate/staynight even though it’s a prequel you do not need it to understand fate/staynight |
Aug 5, 2021 4:21 PM
#35
| @purification1 @MilanFillipi You should debate in private , OP would be confused if he was to read all this x) For Zero , he's both a Spin-Off (Not included in the original release , not written by main Author , contradict plot points , can be read/watched as a stand-alone...) & Canon work. (Nasu approved the big parts contradicting nothing) But let's be honest , if it wasn't a big Author such as Urobuchi that writted it , Zero would have been a simple Fan-Fiction. Oh , and OP already finished Zero , so what's the point of debating over including Zero or not in the watch order ? (He doesn't seems to care about the real "Canon" and multiples persons already told him that everything is canon in Fate anyway.) |
"Genius lives only one story above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Aug 5, 2021 4:28 PM
#36
| @purification1 @Alexioos95 All I’ll say is this, just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right ;) |
Aug 5, 2021 4:47 PM
#37
MilanFillipi said: I give but it’s still a spin-off@purification1 @Alexioos95 All I’ll say is this, just because you’re correct doesn’t mean you’re right ;) |
Aug 5, 2021 7:10 PM
#38
| Man wanted an answer.. He was presented with options 😵 |
Aug 6, 2021 1:52 AM
#39
itsuchihaitachi said: He was presented with options 😵 Fate fandom love to overcomplicate things. (Especially the MAL one) |
"Genius lives only one story above madness." – Arthur Schopenhauer. "Stupidity is a talent for misconception." – Edgar Allan Poe. "I'm tired... and hungry." – Alexioos95. |
Aug 6, 2021 4:01 AM
#40
| zero is a prequel, rest is alternate universe stuff |
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Aug 6, 2021 7:29 AM
#41
| I don't think anyone has commented this order but maybe they have. I watched it in a strange order but it seems to have worked well for me. I started with Unlimited Blade Works just because it was the one that interested me the most. Then I watched Zero to understand the backstory and it felt like watching the Star Wars originals and then prequels. Then I watched Heaven's Feel. It seems weird but it worked well because of certain aspects of Fate Zero such as Sakuras character which carried over into Heaven's Feel which made an effective character arc. |
Aug 6, 2021 12:45 PM
#42
| Chronological order - Fate zero > Fate stay night, unlimited blade works, heavens feel are alternate routes of the same basic premise Watch Order- 1. Fate stay night 2006 (if u can bear to watch it, it will in the understanding of the later series becoz they expect u to have some knowledge) --> if u could not bear the physical pain you most likely will experience while watching this - u can skip it 2. Fate stay night - unlimited blade works 3. Fate stay night heaven's feel 4. Fate zero (prequel to the above but has massive spoilers for both the original and heavens feel route) |
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