| I've noticed a trend here on MAL of anime causing more controversy. It all started with Goblin Slayer, then Shield Hero and now it seems we get a controversial show per season. Maybe anime was more controversial before then or maybe the community has gotten more sensitive, I am not sure tbh. Has anime really gotten this much more dubious with its content? Is it degenerating? Discuss below. |
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| Well most of the controversy comes from twitter now-a-days. And well you know how twitter is. So I dont really give much of a shit |
| anime is just more popular now and when things are more popular there's more people to complain about shit |
| Considering that now whenever I type in "anime" and go to the news section on Google, the only thing I see is that black samurai anime. Yes. |
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| You can soon expect the #cancelculture mobs even in anime industry... it is already effected heavily in the hollywood. |
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| what more controversial than bloody-tentacle-rape-cheating-drugged-loli hentai anime, I sure this exist before 2010 and the peoples pretend it didnt exist. just because Internet more common in people makes radically awakened and most of their targets is something popular but has bad things. |
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| I think those all just from ur persfective There are lot of controversial anime founded before goblin slayer 2018 2017 kuzu no honkai 2016 mayoiga 2015 ore monogatari 2014 pupa 2013 Samurai Flamenco 2012 SAO 2011 mirai nikki 2010 kiss x sis 2009 FMAB 2008 to love ru 2007 school days Etc Even maybe there are some title who hvnt mentioned by me in same years |
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| not really, back in the 90s we had gems like Rapeman and no one complained. Today people bitch and moan if some random character shares a birthday with some other random military official who did who knows what in the 40s |
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| I would say it's more the audiance than the anime itself, I can't imagine the dumpster fire if something like wicked city or ninja scroll were to drop on crunchyroll nowadays. |
Deathlydash said: ISeeLifePeople said: how was fmab controversial???????????????????I think those all just from ur persfective There are lot of controversial anime founded before goblin slayer 2018 2017 kuzu no honkai 2016 mayoiga 2015 ore monogatari 2014 pupa 2013 Samurai Flamenco 2012 SAO 2011 mirai nikki 2010 kiss x sis 2009 FMAB 2008 to love ru 2007 school days Etc Even maybe there are some title who hvnt mentioned by me in same years I will make it simple. Remember, most hated chars |
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| Not from my point of view. If anything, most new anime stay too wrapped up in their safety nets. I do think we're looking at a new era of people who have a thirst for seeing things that don't exist and have an entire echo chamber on social media to instantly validate their delusions. I've never seen so many 'mountain out of a molehill' threads in my life until recently. Do I care? Not really. I just avoid most of those discussions. People are free to talk about whatever and I'm free to find it annoying. But I really don't see many boundary pushing new shows. I kind of wish I did. |
Musawick said: Well most of the controversy comes from twitter now-a-days. And well you know how twitter is. So I dont really give much of a shit Twitter is a nice scapegoat, but I see more controversy in a regular MAL shitpost than in Twitter. At the very least it's funny to mention Twitter's toxicity when we are posting here. |
| Maybe. I think it's more because of anime fans in general and not cause of the series |
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| @Musawick True, Twitter is a big cancer. @Kayle_x_Morgana We wuz samurai n shiet lol @fpsJuvan The industry would be officially dead when that happens. @SunHater-NoRoman Good point, people will act like things don't exist if it wasn't popular or was popular at a time before they "liked" a medium. @ISeeLifePeople Probably, did those anime cause as much controversy back then as say Mushoku Tensei does now? @Catalano True dat @JoyBoy_316 That would be hilarious if that scenario did happen. Maybe the non existent ninja scroll 2 will cause controversy with its non existent release. @deafnote True, anime is pretty safe nowadays. You aren't going to get something on par with say Genocyber with its content come out in modern times. |
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| It hasn't become more controversial the same shit has been getting discussed since I got into it. All that has changed is there are more people into anime so it gets brought up more often, and the explosion of social media. Everyone now thinks their opinion is the law and they have 20 platforms to tell us about their most recent legal decree. Not actually everyone but a shit load of people act this way. |
| I think anime has always been controversial it's just the controversial ones are more popular now and more likely to pretend to be wholesome. |
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| Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage |
Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage The fans of redo were really convinced it was happening. |
Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage I'm assuming it has to do with the accessibility of the anime, for one. Goblin Slayer and Shield Hero were both put up on Crunchyroll. Redo is on Hidive which I haven't even heard of until Redo of Healer released. Granted people could, and will, pirate the anime it still stands that two were on a more popular platform. Also there's the fact that Redo of Healer is more less a hentai with a fantasy setting while the other two are pure fantasy (one even being an isekai) so there's the appeal of the genre itself. That all said I'm assuming very few people who would be vocally outraged by Redo actually saw Redo. |
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Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage I am surprised it only caused as little controversy as it actually did. I wanted to see a huge meltdown over it T,T |
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Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage AoT and all the big series of that season snuffed it out. |
Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage But we had outrage, plenty, on the winter season. About AOT, Neverland, Mushoku-tensei... I think Redo of the healer was easy to rule out as a sleazy fetish show. People may like controversies, but watching and following a show it's absolutely crystal clear that they are not going to enjoy may be too much. |
JoyBoy_316 said: Bfolls said: Still trying to understand why the internet didn’t lose their minds with Redo or a Healer. Especially if goblin slayer and uzaki can create outrage AoT and all the big series of that season snuffed it out. That makes a lot of sense. For people to be outraged they need to realize it is happening |
| Maybe people are more critical with media they consume nowadays. It's certainly a better stance than "Fiction doesn't mean anything bro it's literally just pretty colors bro" |
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| Empty vessels make the most noise, definitely applies here. |
| It really does seem like every season there's at least one anime that directly panders to incels and woman haters. |
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| Nothing has really come close to GS and SH. Not sure what it was but those made people furious. During those times SJWs were making as much noise as the anti-SJWs. As of late no one really gives a fuck and it's anti-SJWs trying their best to call everything a controversy and blowing things out of proportion. |
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| Nope, Anime has gotten safer, not more controversial. It's just Twitter getting butthurt that makes anime seem more controversial than it is. |
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_Nette_ said: Anime doesn't really care when right wing bigots and left wing bigots clash in foreign forums. All attention is good attention, attention sells copies and streams, and controversy creates the most attention.Has anime really gotten this much more dubious with its content? Is it degenerating? Discuss below. The big downside is that these days "controversy" is often played in a boring and calculated way most of the time. That's just bait for bored American's predictable outrage rituals. The number of truly politically incorrect shows is declining since the mid 2000s. The sweet summer children who think Goblin Slayer or Shield Hero have controversial content very obviously haven't seen a lot of pre-2010 anime. Yet true PC incorrectness isn't dead, Interspecies Reviewers or Redo of a Healer still are produced. Thank you, AT-X and their collaboration with the hentai industry. You are the good guys. |
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Descended_ said: it literally defaults to the Netflix series as top result right there for no reason. There was more last time I checked to.Kayle_x_Morgana said: Considering that now whenever I type in "anime" and go to the news section on Google, the only thing I see is that black samurai anime. Yes. I got very veeeery different results in the news section for "anime" Which makes sense considering Google search results can be strongly influenced by your search history, so think why "black samurai anime" Came up a lot in yours  Last time I got this parody https://www.mic.com/p/netflixs-yasuke-is-more-evidence-that-the-future-of-anime-is-black-75903017 |
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| Yes it did, for example nazi themes in AOT final season, disgusting. |
Kayle_x_Morgana said: Descended_ said: it literally defaults to the Netflix series as top result right there for no reason. There was more last time I checked to.I got very veeeery different results in the news section for "anime" Which makes sense considering Google search results can be strongly influenced by your search history, so think why "black samurai anime" Came up a lot in yours Last time I got this parody https://www.mic.com/p/netflixs-yasuke-is-more-evidence-that-the-future-of-anime-is-black-75903017 Like I said, the results depend greatly on your previous searches and history Maybe use a different search engine or account? |
Descended_ said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: it literally defaults to the Netflix series as top result right there for no reason. There was more last time I checked to.  Last time I got this parody https://www.mic.com/p/netflixs-yasuke-is-more-evidence-that-the-future-of-anime-is-black-75903017 Like I said, the results depend greatly on your previous searches and history Maybe use a different search engine or account? clearly lying since i used a new browser with no account signed in.  |
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| Okay okay history lesson time because I see people didn't do their homework. No. In the wake of the OVA boom and Ninja Scroll's success in the west, publishers started buying everything that seemed edgy cool from japan. That's how an ero-guro edgefest called Urotsukidouji stormed the UK and US and started a massive wave of backlash against japanese animation in the early 90s. Other countries had their own controversies at this period too (Here in France, Hokuto no Ken was broadcasted alongside kid stuff). What's different tho, is that degeneracy was contained in OVAs, while we now have an A+ degenerate macho-pedo-rapisto shlock show every season. And I'm not sure how people are surprised that there's backlash, like lmao, do you live in a cave or what? That shit would have garnered backlash 20 years ago, or 40 years ago. A couple centuries back and you'd all get tied to stakes and burnt alive for that shit. So miss me with that "AnImE iS sO cEnSoReD nOwAdAyS" crap. If that's the kind of problems you have to imagine to feel opressed, I don't know what to say lol. |
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Ghemotoc said: It's all about channels for mature content. Today "macho-pedo-rapisto" anime is contained as well in pay-channels with age control such as AT-X. But: Most of the "contoversial" anime these days exists in multiple cuts, from PG-13 to Rx. Now there are two problems why there's all that whining:What's different tho, is that degeneracy was contained in OVAs, while we now have an A+ degenerate macho-pedo-rapisto shlock show every season. And I'm not sure how people are surprised that there's backlash 1) MAL & Co. always list the TV version's MPAA rating, usually PG-13 or R. But the pirate sites happily carry the R+/Rx cuts. So otherwise sanitized pirate sites all in a sudden are tricked into carrying Rx material which now meets kids who see their first porn and go on a rampage in MAL forums. 2) People watch stuff they hate just to rant about it because forums exist and people react to it. Seriously guys, just drop those shows and don't pester forums with your hatred each new episode. And everybody else, just stop reacting to those Whining White Knights. I've seen too many threads by kids whining about stuff they weren't even allowed to watch legally. There is a reason why those shows are rated R/R+, kids. Go away if you are not ready for that. |
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| Why does Yasuke = controversial? Are we really surprised that Netflix and news outlets aimed at boomers would pay to appear first in google search results? Is it really so surprising that Yasuke would be something to report on over seasonal cute girl show #47? |
| I think people have become more sensitive and find offense to everything nowadays. |
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| Communication has gotten easier and content distribution has gotten a major boost resulting in controversy being overblown, but content wise no. Older anime rarely had problems diving into violence (especially in the context of gore) or sexual content notably in the OVA scene which would arguably be the 2 main metrics for controversy. But generally nobody ever heard about them due to limited distribution and no way to easily broadcast grievances in the off chance they came into contact with them. In the 90s it was angry people calling politicians or venting to their friend group, in the 00s it was angry people calling politicians or venting to their friend group, in the 10s and 20s it's an angry online blog or post that hundreds of people share to the viewership of thousands. |
| No. Anime became more popular and when something gets popular and people enjoy it, miserable people from Twitter will try to ruin this fun for others and try to make them as miserable for them. That's how they can feel just a little bit of joy. |
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you can be accused of wrongthink if you hate it it's a very idpol focused anime |
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Conceptualhero said: I am really glad anime is getting more controversial. It is an indicator that the west (SJWs and those crappy people) don't have a large influence in the anime industry yet. you guys really gotta get out more lol |
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