| Abitubers play a major part in the hate/culture and it's because of them that some popular anime like Sword Art online,Promised neverland S2,etc get so hated. Let's look at some of the examples. Sword Art Online first started getting hate when a Youtuber named Digibro made a hate video about it and before he made the video everyone loved Sword Art Online but after the video everyone starts hating it. I don't know about Tokyo Ghoul if someone can send me the sauce? Black clover hate trend was started by Gigguk when he posted a hate video on Black clover everyone hated Black clover even more after the video but when he posts an appreciation video of Black clover the haters seem to be in a minority for some reason. Now this is the most recent one-Promised neverland s2 even this is a victim of the recent hate trend because of Anitubers Before all the anitubers started making hate videos on it people didn't really seem to hate it that much as compared to now. It is really surprising how a lot of people hate Demon slayer even though no one actually posted a hate video about it.Demon slayer is one exception. Overall:It really annoys me how most of the people form their opinion based on the opinions of Anitubers and never actually form their own opinion. Me personally I don't care about the hate the anime gets.If I like it I like it.That's about it. |
ScordoloApr 1, 2021 10:54 AM
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| I haven't watched a single episode of those anitubers and I think that the promised neverland is one of the biggest turds I have ever witnessed. |
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Theo1899 said: I haven't watched a single episode of those anitubers and I think that the promised neverland is one of the biggest turds I have ever witnessed. You see before those hate videos of anitubers of Promised neverland s2 started popping up not many people actually cared about how they changed things but after those videos started popping up this anime is getting a lot of hate. Hey_Taka-tin_Hey said: I take cancel culture seriously in absolutely everything, not just anime. What you mentioned above, however, is not cancel culture. It's people not being able to form/verbalize their own opinion, so they borrow someone else's. Aight.I'll rename the title |
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| No. I don't pay heed to others opinion. I rather judge things for myself. And about cancelling things I dont do it. If dont like it i express my opinion, but never hated on something because someone told me to. |
| No I couldn't care less what twitter thought about anime Anitubers are also unfunny and a toxin that should be purged |
| I really don't think all this starts because of anytubers Anitubers make videos on popular topics . Not the other way arround The promised neverland getting hate for cutting out 60% of the story and half of the finale was bound to happen no matter what Tokyo ghoul getting hate for absolutely butchering a good manga was bound to happen no matter what People who haven't read the manga of both notice how weird the anime is in its execution |
Abitubers play a major part in the hate/culture and it's because of them that some popular anime like Sword Art online,Promised neverland S2,etc get so hated. It is not the fault of the anitubers that their viewers take their opinion as the absolute truth.Let's look at some of the examples. Sword Art Online first started getting hate when a Youtuber named Digibro made a hate video about it and before he made the video everyone loved Sword Art Online but after the video everyone starts hating it. I don't know about Tokyo Ghoul if someone can send me the sauce? Black clover hate trend was started by Gigguk when he posted a hate video on Black clover everyone hated Black clover even more after the video but when he posts an appreciation video of Black clover the haters seem to be in a minority for some reason. Now this is the most recent one-Promised neverland s2 even this is a victim of the recent hate trend because of Anitubers Before all the anitubers started making hate videos on it people didn't really seem to hate it that much as compared to now. It is really surprising how a lot of people hate Demon slayer even though no one actually posted a hate video about it.Demon slayer is one exception. Overall:It really annoys me how most of the people form their opinion based on the opinions of Anitubers and never actually form their own opinion. Me personally I don't care about the hate the anime gets.If I like it I like it.That's about it. |
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| I usually like to see for myself before I form an opinion but would agree that peer pressure and the power of suggestion can influence how the community reacts to different anime. That being said, I haven't seen any anitubers recently but Black Clover is crap I tried it and no thanks its not for me. Promised Neverland s2, I liked the first season but this season was kinda sad to watch and the last episode totally tanked my score 4/10. The others you mentioned I liked, except like most after season 1 I stopped liking Tokyo Ghoul. |
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AnimeAnima said: I usually like to see for myself before I form an opinion but would agree that peer pressure and the power of suggestion can influence how the community reacts to different anime. That being said, I haven't seen any anitubers recently but Black Clover is crap I tried it and no thanks its not for me. Promised Neverland s2, I liked the first season but this season was kinda sad to watch and the last episode totally tanked my score 4/10. The others you mentioned I liked, except like most after season 1 I stopped liking Tokyo Ghoul. Try the manga for TPN. It drops in quality hard after a while but it's not a brutal plane crash like the animes second season |
| No, it doesn't really annoy me. As long as it isn't baseless, I'm still ok with unoriginal opinions. It happens when a vast majority agree on one single opinion. |
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| Anitubers just provide a megaphone for the particular views they espouse, do they represent the community and follow it's trends and report on them, or does the community follow them and base their trends based on the anitibers opinions, you can argue both. Go to college and study sociology if you want to understand more about whether media, in any form, reflects the cultural norms and values of society or a particular community, or does it influence and dictate what those norms and values will be through it's editorial input and dialogue. You simply notice the haters when it's brought to your attention through a negative video. |
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| I don't like that people take the opinions of anitubers as law for sure. However, what I dislike more is when people act like it is the anitubers fault that their fans are sheep who can't formulate their own opinions. If The Anime Man say he doesn't like SAO for example and his fans go to repeat that opinion he isn't to blame for that. It is the fault of whatever schmuck who decided to be a follower and just hate SAO because The Anime Man said it was bad. Most of these anitubers say to formulate your own opinion on the shows they talk about and don't just take their word for it. So it isn't on them if their fans are too dumb to get that message. |
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| "Does it annoy you when people say their opinions..." No |
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| To be honest with you, I feel more annoyed when anitubers don't use their influence to talk about good airing anime. Instead, they talk about what's trending, no matter if it's good or bad. I don't remember the last time I watched a video about anime, so I just don't care about this anymore. |
| Imagine how boring this world would be without Japan - a comment at youtube |
| Hmm yeah it is kinda boring but that doesn't mean everyone hates that show because of an anituber . Ngl OP your sig is one of the shttiest takes I've seen in MAL for a while |
| Yes because any form of criticism from an anituber will result in a domino effect of hate towards an anime. These people are big influencers, when they throw content or attack other content, it ruins the community experience and divides the fanbase. Even if they say their "opinions don't matter", they do matter which pisses me off sometimes. |
lulio3000 said: "Does it annoy you when people say their opinions..." No Uh what?What you said right now isn't even related anything to the topic. @Adimus_prime what you are saying is right but i never said it's the fault of the anitubers but the fans. |
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| Nope, but what annoys me is when someone try to valid an argument basing off on anituber "How can you say that xxxxx is bad? This guy here has 300k subscribers on YouTube and disagrees with you" |
PhosphophyllitaApr 1, 2021 11:26 AM
| If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time. Watch more movies, please. Perhaps, this is hell. |
Scordolo said: lulio3000 said: "Does it annoy you when people say their opinions..." No Uh what?What you said right now isn't even related anything to the topic. @Adimus_prime what you are saying is right but i never said it's the fault of the anitubers but the fans. ? I answered your thread, how is that unrelated |
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lulio3000 said: Scordolo said: Uh what?What you said right now isn't even related anything to the topic. @Adimus_prime what you are saying is right but i never said it's the fault of the anitubers but the fans. ? I answered your thread, how is that unrelated You missed the point of the topic. It's not people having their own opinions about anime that the op has a problem with, the problem the op has is those that come to the conclusion that an anime is bad just because their favourite Youtuber or streamer says its bad. |
lulio3000 said: Scordolo said: Uh what?What you said right now isn't even related anything to the topic. @Adimus_prime what you are saying is right but i never said it's the fault of the anitubers but the fans. ? I answered your thread, how is that unrelated I said"Does it annoy you when people say their opinion based on Anitubers |
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| No I think you're just wrong. I hated SAO before I even watched a single video about it. I hate Tokyo Ghoul anime because I read the manga, and I even think the manga falls off towards the end. I still haven't watched a single YouTube video about it. And season 2 of The Promised Neverland is just indefensibly shitty. No one needs a video to know that. Demon Slayer? I don't hate it. Either way, AniTubers can also provide a new angle to look at an anime from |
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GoZha said: No I think you're just wrong. I hated SAO before I even watched a single video about it. I hate Tokyo Ghoul anime because I read the manga, and I even think the manga falls off towards the end. I still haven't watched a single YouTube video about it. And season 2 of The Promised Neverland is just indefensibly shitty. No one needs a video to know that. Demon Slayer? I don't hate it. Either way, AniTubers can also provide a new angle to look at an anime from I'm not pointing out to those who hate it before watching the videos I meant that these anime get hated so badly AFTER the Anitubers posts their opinion on Youtube and in no way is it the Anitubers fault. |
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Scordolo said: Maybe the AniTuber lets people feel comfortable with expressing their negative opinion? Or maybe they actually provide a new perspective?GoZha said: No I think you're just wrong. I hated SAO before I even watched a single video about it. I hate Tokyo Ghoul anime because I read the manga, and I even think the manga falls off towards the end. I still haven't watched a single YouTube video about it. And season 2 of The Promised Neverland is just indefensibly shitty. No one needs a video to know that. Demon Slayer? I don't hate it. Either way, AniTubers can also provide a new angle to look at an anime from I'm not pointing out to those who hate it before watching the videos I meant that these anime get hated so badly AFTER the Anitubers posts their opinion on Youtube and in no way is it the Anitubers fault. |
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Yes, you said that, and I said... "Does it annoy you when people say their opinion..." -> No -Hermit- said: You missed the point of the topic. It's not people having their own opinions about anime that the op has a problem with, the problem the op has is those that come to the conclusion that an anime is bad just because their favourite Youtuber or streamer says its bad. Didn't miss anything I will make a little example to get you to understand "Do you hate cats?" No, I don't hate cats. "Do you hate cats that are black?" No, I answered that before by saying that I don't hate cats It is just anime, opinions about animes are a non issue. If people based their opinions of how big the average tits of the MC are I wouldnt care either |
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GoZha said: Scordolo said: Maybe the AniTuber lets people feel comfortable with expressing their negative opinion? Or maybe they actually provide a new perspective?I'm not pointing out to those who hate it before watching the videos I meant that these anime get hated so badly AFTER the Anitubers posts their opinion on Youtube and in no way is it the Anitubers fault. They provide new perspective that's for sure but some fans instead of stating their original opinion just change their opinions after seeing the videos. |
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Leoradiuju2004 said: Abitubers play a major part in the hate/culture and it's because of them that some popular anime like Sword Art online,Promised neverland S2,etc get so hated. It is not the fault of the anitubers that their viewers take their opinion as the absolute truth.Let's look at some of the examples. Sword Art Online first started getting hate when a Youtuber named Digibro made a hate video about it and before he made the video everyone loved Sword Art Online but after the video everyone starts hating it. I don't know about Tokyo Ghoul if someone can send me the sauce? Black clover hate trend was started by Gigguk when he posted a hate video on Black clover everyone hated Black clover even more after the video but when he posts an appreciation video of Black clover the haters seem to be in a minority for some reason. Now this is the most recent one-Promised neverland s2 even this is a victim of the recent hate trend because of Anitubers Before all the anitubers started making hate videos on it people didn't really seem to hate it that much as compared to now. It is really surprising how a lot of people hate Demon slayer even though no one actually posted a hate video about it.Demon slayer is one exception. Overall:It really annoys me how most of the people form their opinion based on the opinions of Anitubers and never actually form their own opinion. Me personally I don't care about the hate the anime gets.If I like it I like it.That's about it. What an great way to sum up exactly my thoughts. And even just in one sentence. But on a longer more detailed note, I think people are willing to forgive too much for the lacking sides of many shows. In that sense I do like to think that since some anitubers bring some light to the series that deserve more critique than they get, but do I want people to accept these arguments youtubers provide with absolutely no questions? Abslutely not. BUT I also believe that if an person entirely bases of their views and opinions on something someone said, it really starts to shine if you just talk to them. If it is clear that the believes they hold onto are not their, or well-reasoned, you don't have to take them seriously. Also, every single opinion we hold has some influence beyond us, and people adapt points. That is good and "natural" human behavior and should not be looked down upon, unless we are talking about ridiculous degrees of imitating other people. |
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| Not really, it might not be their opinion, but it's still an opinion, besides most of the time people borrow or take ideas/opinions of other people, whether they are anitubers or just friends. And stiull hearing other people opinions and thinking or using them is a great thing imo, not all the times but sometimes is. And to be clear I'm not talking about the "memes" that some people call opinions, hating on Sword Art Online because it was popular was a meme, not an opinion. About TPN being hated, well, the first episodes were kinda of similar to what happened in the manga, but as soon as they started going original and missing the character "Hugo" and others, most of the people, including myself, went ape shit saying the season was a shit, and I'm pretty sure that not all of us have watched any anituber video to talk like this. |
AlvaritoterreosApr 1, 2021 12:32 PM
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| I just wanna be free to consider SAO a 1/10 without being told I was brainwashed by an anituber. And you can't say "I was only talking about those who were actually brainwashed, not people with genuine opinions", since there's no way to tell apart ones from the others. |
| No, I don't think you are right at all. Pretty sure people already have opinions on hate/love but that gets reinforced when they watch anitubers who are popular and share similar opinions as them. A good example of this is TPN S2 as you stated, people hated it even before anitubers reported on it, after the reporting people watching anitubers just had their opinions reinforced. Demon Slayer is another good example, people have opinions of not liking DS, and that's not because of anitubers, people can form their opinions. And SAO and TG are hated for being bad, it's not because of anitubers, because I've watched both and didn't think either of them were very impressive. |
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| Youtubers capitalize on trends in the community and that can accelerate their growth, but you don't name a case of a youtuber actually creating the trend. |
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| I guess so. I would rather have people formulate their own opinions instead of trying to fit in with the majority. |
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| Meh I don't care really. The Sword Art Online hate is absurd though I agree (first season). |
| For one, I gotta say that TPN 2 is a mix of anitubers hating it and pretty much people trashing it for how bad it got to become, and I admit that I'm part of that since you can't drop a series like that from the heights of its prequel season. But when it comes to people basing off their opinions and thoughts from what their favorite anituber say, I say BS to that. Prime examples I can point at is TheAn1meman and Gigguk, my favorites out of the bunch. I really love watching their videos and (ofc) they're the first anitubers I listened to when I was starting out last year. But over time, as my knowledge on anime got more deeper and as I broadened my taste over the months, I find it really hard to agree to all of their opinions. I don't want to be a puppet to their own influence all the times. I listen to what they say, compare it to my pre-existing opinions, trash on whatever they might be wrong at, and as I end the video, minutes and hours after that I just move on. What I'm trying to point at is that, a) Have your own opinions on various titles and series, b) It's okay to listen and agree with your aniTuber, and c) Do not agree and follow every opinion of theirs, cause you're gonna make yourself feel bad and bland of yourself later on. |
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| I'd be lying if i said it wasn't stupid imo to base your opinion on what some guy on Youtube said just cause they have 500k - over a million followers it doesn't make what theyre saying any more objective, you're just as free to disagree with them as you are some random ass mf also never been into anime meme culture, so i don't care about that aspect of them either |
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| I think people don't forum their own opinion because they are scared that people will bully them. But if they use famous people's opinion, they think they can blend in better with the community. |
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| Okay maybe people do do this but I think it’s a little dumb to assume all the hate these series are getting is soley because of anitubers “brainwashing” them. I have problems with some of the shows that I’ve watched that get hate. anitubers actually make good points on why they’re bad so it’s likely that other people knoticed that before them or they now realize that after watching anituber reviews/analysis. I think it’s a far stretch to say all the hate certain shows get is soley because of anitubers especially when anitubers themselves usually have a list of reasons on why the show is bad. I think it’s more of you/others not acknowledging the problems and why people would potentially not like it. Unless someone says they hate an anime and haven’t watched it then it’s okay to be skeptical otherwise.... |
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| All I know is that spanish anitubers comunnity is toxic af. You have anitubers saying "Shingeki is NOT a masterpiece" and then another answers with a 1 hour lenght video explaining why that's not true. 90% of the community is like that, and not to mention the pretentious ones. So yeah, it kinda annoys me. Yet there are a few with good analysis and videos. |
Kaliyahscake said: Unless someone says they hate an anime and haven’t watched it then it’s okay to be skeptical otherwise.... A lot of people actually do this. They say an anime is good or bad without even watching it. So yeah... if they have no opinions from themselves then they shouldn't parrot someone's else opinion like it's a known fact. |
| No, I'm more annoyed at people who diss others opinion just because they happened to align with what Anitubers said. I've been shitting on SAO with my irl friends since it was airing in 2012, but now I can't even bring up my opinion about it without someone going "you just hate it because digibro said so". |
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| I'm okay if they have a negative opinion about an anime. I might even like them if they know certain things better than me. what I don't like is many of them make fun of the viewers/fans of an anime to make a grandstanding. 'I can say anything as long as I make people laugh', that's what most of them do. |
Scordolo said: Now this is the most recent one-Promised neverland s2 even this is a victim of the recent hate trend because of Anitubers Before all the anitubers started making hate videos on it people didn't really seem to hate it that much as compared to now. I didn't know TPN Season 2's hate was because of any Anitubers. From my understanding the hate against it is because the Goldy Pond Arc was cut out entirely which upset a lot of the manga readers. Also the slideshow at the very end was like a slap in the face to manga readers and anime-only watchers alike. The list of grievances goes on but I don't want to write a wall of text about it. |
ShickydakubofickApr 1, 2021 4:49 PM
| But all those are just opinions, it's not "cancel culture", though it can be annoying when people just get all of their opinions from anitubers I guess. Finally, TPN S2 is trash, I do not need some dude on the internet to tell me that. |
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