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Jul 29, 2020 8:36 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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The female lead's introduction time with Haku may have been done there and then, but the true reality is just beginning between her and the ikemen Evolvers.

To CEO Zen's chagrin, the production results from the main female lead's leadership isn't showing any gains that are favourable to him, and it's back to the drawing board with Kira's help aiding her.

A meeting with Kira becomes a date LOLs (as expected of an otome game), the usual shenangians. Turns out that Zen has been spying on her the whole while. and Simon gives some insight on the Zen's part.

With the main female lead finally promoted to being a producer, it's time to get things going: to figure out the puzzle between Evolvers, and the female lead's recurring memories being a power of foreshadowing future events in itself.

The important element of this episode: puddings, because ikemen are beautifully handsome having some mukbang time, and it gives the female lead some inspiration to move forward.
Jul 29, 2020 10:11 AM
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Lot of tension during the end of the episode, they really stopped on a cliffhanger, damn.
Jul 29, 2020 10:26 AM
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so the pudding Kira loved was actually made by Zen o wow didn't expect the hidden yaoi route to start xdd



but for realz, I actually really like Hisako's voice acting with this show, arguably the best otome protagonist voice acting imo. But goddammit why does this otome protag. always end up getting into death situations lmao
Jul 29, 2020 10:28 AM
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bruh this man is everywhere..... starting to make him look sus.
Jul 29, 2020 10:29 AM
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Gotta love a nice and calm episode, and then all of sudden. CLIFFHANGER.
Good stuff.
Jul 29, 2020 11:43 AM
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How dare she reject Gavin's motorcycle ride invitation! Nevermind, I'll be the one to ride, both his motorcycle and his body ;)

This episode is stangely remind me of Kakuriyo: Bed and Breakfast for Spirits, because the girl remember the taste of the food that save her from her traumatic childhood memory.
Jul 29, 2020 1:33 PM
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So Corporate guy is also a restaurateur.

Lucien Vs Gavin, so what's this a rivalry?
Jul 29, 2020 4:57 PM
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Dat cliffhanger makes me screaming in the midnight :(
I love how this otome anime always straight up focus to it's story and mystery, not baiting with rushed romance or touchy ikemen ew
Never thinking about this before, but I don't know the boys will ever meeting with each other and how it is if they met... Victor/Kira and Lucien/Gavin in this episode really surprising
I need more, can't wait for next week!

9.5/10
Jul 29, 2020 9:25 PM
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I'm REALLY enjoying this anime adaptation so far. As someone who played the game, it's fast-paced but in a good way (focusing on the lore and plot). Oh boy, things are about to go DOWN and episode 4 will just be the beginning. I'm HYPED for the upcoming action scenes. The anime director said in an interview that it's gonna be big or something along those lines. For those on the fence, don't drop it right now. There is SO much so uncover and you in for a hell of a ride.

I saw some users saying they didn't understand why this episode was about "Victor's cutesy pudding shop" and why it was even added. Just based on the pace we're going, I think I know why they decided to draw your attention that way; they're setting up for events in the later episodes.

GONNA BOARD THE HYPE TRAIN NOW.



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Jul 30, 2020 2:30 AM

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Can this be more standard Mary Sue female fantasy? Yes the one Zen is looking for some reason is her (that is she cooked her pudding). She was extremely insufferable this episode. I mean the guy saved your life twice but when he tells you to try doing something else because he fears for your safety you go, no... I can do it. Hate the heroine most of the males have cardboard personalities, dropped
Jul 30, 2020 5:29 AM

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That final scene though, talk about picking up the pace and skipped content... Next episode will be covering chapter 8 from the game which skips A LOT. Current rough estimation is:
- first episode covered chapter 1
- second episode covered chapter 2
-third episode covered chapter 3 and 4 if I remember well, and the final scene was chapter 6

Next episode covers chapter 8 which is an abnormal skip and a lot will be lost regarding character development, especially Lucien's character development... And I was looking forward to seeing those chapters animated the most...
This drastically changes my previous idea that the anime will cover first 10 chapters, with this speed who knows how much they will cover but I am not sure how good it will be...
Shimai_niJul 30, 2020 5:47 AM
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Jul 30, 2020 7:04 AM
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More foreshadowing power of dream from the girl, led to the unexpected event. I believed that police officer evolver just got a misapprehending toward the scientist and the girl relations that led him to take the own judgement. But, man, actually i am shock enough to knew the ending come up to the scene. Great twist for me, there.

Other meaningful meeting with the CEO evolver and the popular guy evolver forced the girl into some past memories revelations beyond an endless thought. Finally the CEO man had a chance to justificate his annoying habit against the girl with his sweet approaching over that beautiful pudding. There might be still hold some mystery over the girl past. Such as that erased memories of her childhood period, and so on. Otherwise, that was some nice bonding over every main char on this series. Unfortunately to the police guy for having a bad impression on this episode. That was a very unfortunate encounter by him. Lol.

Overall, this is a nice episode with a nice little bonding interaction over each character. And nice development toward some of the guy already, pretty entertaining so far for me.
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Jul 30, 2020 10:04 AM
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nightcrawlercyp said:
Can this be more standard Mary Sue female fantasy? Yes the one Zen is looking for some reason is her (that is she cooked her pudding). She was extremely insufferable this episode. I mean the guy saved your life twice but when he tells you to try doing something else because he fears for your safety you go, no... I can do it. Hate the heroine most of the males have cardboard personalities, dropped


Otome games are like that, and i respect your opinion. you should have know that, if it's not your cup of tea
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IwaOi-KHRStan said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
Can this be more standard Mary Sue female fantasy? Yes the one Zen is looking for some reason is her (that is she cooked her pudding). She was extremely insufferable this episode. I mean the guy saved your life twice but when he tells you to try doing something else because he fears for your safety you go, no... I can do it. Hate the heroine most of the males have cardboard personalities, dropped


Otome games are like that, and i respect your opinion. you should have know that, if it's not your cup of tea
I watched a number of exceptions as well so thought of giving it a chance.
Jul 30, 2020 11:20 AM
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Oooo, what path will she really take? Man, the cliffhanger left me wanting more.
Jul 30, 2020 12:58 PM

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Me when the characters are talking about Souvenir: Who the hell would financially be able to keep a restaurant open with those erratic opening hours and lack of customers?!
</b>Me when Victor is revealed as the secret owner</b>: Of course...

This was kinda dull episode but the ending was awesome! I think it's obvious that Gavin is actually there for Lucien but I'm not sure why... Lucien does seem a little suspicious if I'm to be honest though
Jul 30, 2020 12:58 PM

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𝗠𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝗰𝗵𝗮𝗿𝗮𝗰𝘁𝗲𝗿𝘀 𝗮𝗿𝗲 𝘁𝗮𝗹𝗸𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝘂𝘁 𝗦𝗼𝘂𝘃𝗲𝗻𝗶𝗿: Who the hell would financially be able to keep a restaurant open with those erratic opening hours and lack of customers?!
𝗠𝗲 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝗩𝗶𝗰𝘁𝗼𝗿 𝗶𝘀 𝗿𝗲𝘃𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗲𝗱 𝗮𝘀 𝘁𝗵𝗲 𝘀𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝘁 𝗼𝘄𝗻𝗲𝗿: Of course...

This was kinda dull episode but the ending was awesome! I think it's obvious that Gavin is actually there for Lucien but I'm not sure why... Lucien does seem a little suspicious if I'm to be honest though
Jul 30, 2020 1:00 PM
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Shimai_ni said:
That final scene though, talk about picking up the pace and skipped content... Next episode will be covering chapter 8 from the game which skips A LOT. Current rough estimation is:
- first episode covered chapter 1
- second episode covered chapter 2
-third episode covered chapter 3 and 4 if I remember well, and the final scene was chapter 6

Next episode covers chapter 8 which is an abnormal skip and a lot will be lost regarding character development, especially Lucien's character development... And I was looking forward to seeing those chapters animated the most...
This drastically changes my previous idea that the anime will cover first 10 chapters, with this speed who knows how much they will cover but I am not sure how good it will be...


I totally agree... Since I saw the ending of this episode I am scared they might have skipped too much content and messed up the anime. I hope they implement everything...
Jul 30, 2020 1:28 PM
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nightcrawlercyp said:
IwaOi-KHRStan said:


Otome games are like that, and i respect your opinion. you should have know that, if it's not your cup of tea
I watched a number of exceptions as well so thought of giving it a chance.



well, even the exceptions follows this kind of trope. it's how otome games work. personally i love them exactly because of this, but to each its own.
Jul 30, 2020 4:49 PM

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Stupid sexy Zen also proving he's a master chef :I

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but for realz, I actually really like Hisako's voice acting with this show, arguably the best otome protagonist voice acting imo.
I was actually thinking the same thing in this episode. They really picked the perfect voice actress for this role.
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nightcrawlercyp said:
Can this be more standard Mary Sue female fantasy? Yes the one Zen is looking for some reason is her (that is she cooked her pudding). She was extremely insufferable this episode. I mean the guy saved your life twice but when he tells you to try doing something else because he fears for your safety you go, no... I can do it. Hate the heroine most of the males have cardboard personalities, dropped


To be honest, I was like that too when I first played the game. I actually dropped it many times in the early chapters because I thought it was cheesy and the superpowers were just a gimmick. Because many games of these genres are like "Oh MC falls in love with the guys and the story quickly move towards a happy ending after some unusual setbacks." But with a huge worldview like this story, it's impossible to predict the exact identities of the characters and how the story will unfold just based on the early chapters.

If the anime manages to get the important parts of the story from the game, it will be amazing. But I kinda get it when people drop the series in the beginning xD. Also, I don't understand why some of the fans being are super disappointed over certain parts of the chapters not being adapted lol. Animes and games will never be a 1:1 adaption.


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Man the twist that he was the chef at Souinver was pure gold. This anime is really really good. I look forward to see how it will evol
Jul 30, 2020 10:05 PM

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Senpai: I would never hurt you.

Same Senpai towards end of episode: *points gun at MC girl*

LOL
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IwaOi-KHRStan said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
I watched a number of exceptions as well so thought of giving it a chance.



well, even the exceptions follows this kind of trope. it's how otome games work. personally i love them exactly because of this, but to each its own.
Meant watched a number of shojo. Probably except Phantom in the twilight which despite being an otome was good except last episodes most were not otome
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Short_Circut said:
so the pudding Kira loved was actually made by Zen o wow didn't expect the hidden yaoi route to start xdd



but for realz, I actually really like Hisako's voice acting with this show, arguably the best otome protagonist voice acting imo. But goddammit why does this otome protag. always end up getting into death situations lmao


There’s no Yaoi. Maybe delusional people will ship them, but it’s not meant to be shipped. The four characters are made to fall in love with the MC.
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Short_Circut said:
so the pudding Kira loved was actually made by Zen o wow didn't expect the hidden yaoi route to start xdd



but for realz, I actually really like Hisako's voice acting with this show, arguably the best otome protagonist voice acting imo. But goddammit why does this otome protag. always end up getting into death situations lmao


There’s no Yaoi. Maybe delusional people will ship them, but it’s not meant to be shipped. The four characters are made to fall in love with the MC.
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nightcrawlercyp said:
IwaOi-KHRStan said:



well, even the exceptions follows this kind of trope. it's how otome games work. personally i love them exactly because of this, but to each its own.
Meant watched a number of shojo. Probably except Phantom in the twilight which despite being an otome was good except last episodes most were not otome



Shoujo and otome are two different kinds. that's why probably you don't like it. but it's ok
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Short_Circut said:
so the pudding Kira loved was actually made by Zen o wow didn't expect the hidden yaoi route to start xdd



but for realz, I actually really like Hisako's voice acting with this show, arguably the best otome protagonist voice acting imo. But goddammit why does this otome protag. always end up getting into death situations lmao


There’s no Yaoi. Maybe delusional people will ship them, but it’s not meant to be shipped. The four characters are made to fall in love with the MC.



i agree with you, there's no yaoi in otome games
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I waiting episode where Lucien and Victor a dispute occurred because They is rival :3
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IwaOi-KHRStan said:
Sabrinarock01 said:


There’s no Yaoi. Maybe delusional people will ship them, but it’s not meant to be shipped. The four characters are made to fall in love with the MC.



i agree with you, there's no yaoi in otome games

Thanks for understanding my point :-)
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Kiki has such a annoying voice :/ someone should have a victor counter for how many times he say idiot lol

Don't understand how victor have the time to do ceo stuff and cook lol Ohh so thats why the pudding tasted like the restaurants.
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i feel like the character designs even for random female characters like those in her office/workplace look even nicer than the male character designs, the girls are pretty to look at!

lmfao that i-see-an-evolver-right-infront-of-me joke failed haku loosen up!! xD

i love the banter she has with the CEO

can't wait for the next episode damn that cliffhanger

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I'm rather annoyed that they think the best way to give the finance power CEO a personality is to make him a secret world-class chef on the side. Very few people achieve perfection in spheres as disparate as finance and cooking, fewer by his age (may I hazard a guess of none?) His superiority complex continues to make me want to practice knitting with his entrails...

I'm also annoyed at the way that the men are portrayed as so superior while the girl is bumbling. At least let her be good at cooking pudding! So far I've seen no skill, only persistence, on her part, which disappoints me. I'd assume someone with her persistence would have managed to accumulate some significant skill in a few areas.

This episode definitely made it clear our female lead is also an Evolver. As to why freezing time works on everyone but Evolvers? Absolutely no clue; that seems completely ridiculous. Freezing time in the first place as a evolution-based power is ridiculous (I think it violates the Time-Energy uncertainty principle, the lesser-known cousin of the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.)

I was not expecting a power clash between two main leads at this point. Intriguing!
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Nice having mc work hard to get thru the tv project.
Science dude giving Irozuku Sekai flashbacks, but also very suspicious.
She seems to have precog but hasn't used the knowledge at all yet. Hopefully she's not always the damsel in those situations.
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IwaOi-KHRStan said:
Sabrinarock01 said:


There’s no Yaoi. Maybe delusional people will ship them, but it’s not meant to be shipped. The four characters are made to fall in love with the MC.



i agree with you, there's no yaoi in otome games


guess it's a good thing fandom exists then :)
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i agree with you, there's no yaoi in otome games


guess it's a good thing fandom exists then :)


it's not bad and i'm a yaoi fan myself, but otome games can have yaoi only in fandom choices
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It doesn't matter how many times I watch/play the pudding chapter. Every single time I get angry with Victor because he ate the pudding made for Kiro.
I didn't understand why they skipped some chapters. I just hope that doesn't compromise much of Lucien's character development.
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Kiki has such a annoying voice :/ someone should have a victor counter for how many times he say idiot lol


Actually, Kiki's VA voices Kaguya in "Kaguya-sama: Love is War"!
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That final scene though, talk about picking up the pace and skipped content... Next episode will be covering chapter 8 from the game which skips A LOT. Current rough estimation is:
- first episode covered chapter 1
- second episode covered chapter 2
-third episode covered chapter 3 and 4 if I remember well, and the final scene was chapter 6

Next episode covers chapter 8 which is an abnormal skip and a lot will be lost regarding character development, especially Lucien's character development... And I was looking forward to seeing those chapters animated the most...
This drastically changes my previous idea that the anime will cover first 10 chapters, with this speed who knows how much they will cover but I am not sure how good it will be...


I totally agree... Since I saw the ending of this episode I am scared they might have skipped too much content and messed up the anime. I hope they implement everything...


I'm a bit nervous as well, but I think it's possible that they're moving the order of some events around. Who knows, after the chapter 8 episode, we may get some of the Lucien chapters after it. It kind of depends on how MAPPA wants to tell the story. No matter what kind of adaptation you do (whether a book or game or musical), there's always something to change/remove. I think we should be patient and just see what order they decide to tell the story in. (Honestly, as long as the pacing is good, then that's enough for me.)
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Stardew said:
Kiki has such a annoying voice :/ someone should have a victor counter for how many times he say idiot lol


Actually, Kiki's VA voices Kaguya in "Kaguya-sama: Love is War"!

Have not finished Kaguya. Her voice hurts my ears a bit :/
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With the pacing of this anime I feel like it's gonna surpass the point I played up to in the game....Is that a sign I need to get my slow butt moving [in-game]? OAO

back to the actual episode...when the pudding switcheroo happened in-game I was pretty dang confused and I guess the anime adaptation kind of made that a little more clearer to me (though it still didn't show when the switcheroo occurred...)

Can't wait for the next ep, more cuz this event (Gavin/Haku firing his gun) also confused me when I played through it in the game
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Was a very nice calming episode. She got the funds back yes. Did not expect that Cliff hanger tho what a way to end it. Enjoying the series so far ngl.
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lol Zen switching their puddings bet he kidnapped mc-chan as a child to feed her his pudding

Looks like we're gonna get some action next episode. Also I'm loving the endcards of this anime <3
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Zen seems to be everywhere, ceo life must be pretty easy if he can run a restaurant at the same time (even though it is horribly run...). Seems like we are getting some action next episode between Lucien and Gavin.

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Oh boy the two handsome dudes are about to fight in front of their girl. Where have I seen this scene before?
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The anime is pretty different from its game, but I like to see it animated.

(It's pretty fast-paced too, it removes stuff that happens in the game)
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