Do you think you have the right to complain about the lack of Black MCs if you've actually bought many sub-culture products from Japan ?
| Do you think you have the right to complain about the lack of Black MCs if you've actually bought many sub-culture products from Japan ? As for me, yes, since I have bought many translated and raw manga and light novels from Japan for many years, and have even bought lots of light novels raw from Amazon Japan last year. But after continuing to see the lack of Black MCs in Anime, I have now decided to cease buying all Japanese products, sub-culture or not, until there features one with a Black MC. I will now buy only American, Korean or Chinese products. I don't have to spend my money on products made by a group of people totally not interested in socializing with people from other races. God or The Universal Source created Diversity for One Reason, and that is for us to learn something from others different from us. Since the Japanese are one race, they lack the patience, sensitivity and tolerance to be accepting of people of differences. Thus they don't learn anything in the lessons of tolerance, consideration and understanding. But in Multi-Racial countries, we learn to appreciate the differences in others, thus making it a potential for us to be a more caring and understanding society. In life, we learn more when tolerating stuff that we don't personally have familiarity or preference to, since when we are exposed to something like that, we are made to think that accepting novel and new ideas/cultures are healthy for a positive mindset, since a closed-mind is negative thinking that would not be good for us in the long run. Thus, Xenophobia is actually an affront against Universal Values, since thinking that only members of your own race or your race as superior to others, are the same kind of thinking that led to the birth of that madman, Adolf Hitler. Japan should thank Admiral Perry for opening her up to foreign exchange, otherwise they would not have modernized by themselves ( They too learnt modern sciences and weapons from Europeans so they can't claim that they learned everything from their own Race, as they too are a benefactor of Diversity on Earth ). Currently Japan also imports many raw materials from other countries, and benefits from trade and having customers of their pop-culture from people overseas, so they simply can't just benefit from making money from other races without featuring some sort of representation of other races in their own pop-culture products. They want our money and they want to listen to Jazz or Rap, but they can't even make one romcom anime with a Black MC ?? Just because your country is 98 percent of the same race doesn't exclude you from having to include diversity in your pop-culture products, as 10-20 percent of most anime, light novel, JRPG and manga customers are non-Japanese to the best of my estimates ( This figure includes only people purchasing manga, anime and JRPG discs, light novels etc ), and statistically speaking, this figure is higher than India's Bollywood products ( So India has an excuse for not including other races as MCs in their movies or comics, since 99 percent of Indian Bollywood customers are Indians and not people from other races ) |
EhurvaksDec 6, 2019 11:06 PM
| I frown at recent installments of Persona and Trails of Cold Steel that introduce harem-like elements in the story. We need more JRPGs like the past Lunar series, where there are multiple romantic pairings in the party other than for the protagonist and main heroine. |
| Yeah, because American, Korean or Chinese aren't racist. Stupid. How many black people do you think live Japan? Why the hell should they care about making black MC? You're not special. Thinking that other country have to made a product catered specially to your race make you sounds arrogant. They don't owe you anything. |
Kaiser-chanDec 6, 2019 11:07 PM
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| How do I hide all forum posts from a certain user? Somone save me. |
| Ok, nice to know, best of luck in life |
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| We talk way too much about blacks in anime. Did Soros fund organized forum posters or something? |
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| Jesus..why with the obsession with black characters in anime all of a sudden? They aren't they only ones who are under-represented in anime. Also, not everything has to have a diverse cast and I don't think creators have to cave into it whenever people whine and bitch about a lake of diversity in their cast. Are you really going to be happy with someone adding a black character to their show just to shut people like you up? |
Setsuei said: Jesus..why with the obsession with black characters in anime all of a sudden? They aren't they only ones who are under-represented in anime. This guy's M.O. is his interracial fetish, as will be displayed by his post history, and he's never actually expressing madness about the lack of presence of black anime characters in the broader spectrum of things, he's expressing anger at the lack of black harem/romcom MCs specifically, as has been made clear in previous threads. or i.e. in his own words in this thread: Ehurvaks said: They want our money and they want to listen to Jazz or Rap, but they can't even make one romcom anime with a Black MC ?? Also, he still wants the harem with the black MC to be primarily Japanese girls with maybe a white-skinned American or European tossed in for good measure, according to his previous threads. So yeah, that's also a component to this person's anger. So putting aside the "Lack of black harem MCs is the same sort of mentality Hitler had" implications and the praising of Commodore Perry that OP is going on about in this thread, I don't think this is really part of the discourse of representation or black people/minorities in anime. It's a lunatic getting mad about the lack of appeal to his fetishes. I do think it's a fair topic to discuss if people really want to, I guess. But threads started by this specific OP aren't the ones to have good discussion in, an attempt to move it to a different environment where a different and more sane person is defining the parameters of the discussion should be made. FlowersInTheRain said: Black guy here. Yes there is lack of black MCs but why do you specifically want a black MC in a harem or romcom anime? Because he doesn't care about diversity, and people who act like this OP does need to stop blinding themselves and realize he just wants a black harem MC and that this isn't the frustration of somebody feeling ignored as an ethnic group in media/pop culture representation. Discussing this OP along those parameters is making a mockery of people who do actually care about this shit, from the way I see it. Just scroll through his fuckin' post history, scheiß egal. If you people bite on this and try to turn it into a "legitimate" diversity in media flame war or more SJW/anti-SJW bullshit then you're either completely missing out on what should be the bipartisan stupidity of OP or taking the bait like a motherfucker, depending on whether or not he's a lunatic or a shitposter. And god knows it's futile to stop people from being stupid and delusional so I don't know why I'm bothering getting pre-emptively irritated with what I'm very much predicting this thread will turn into. |
ManabanDec 6, 2019 11:42 PM
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| Are you supposed to be like that "Japan Supremacist" troll (forgot his/her name) who used to spam the forums with "anti-western cosplay" shitposts every couple of months? But if you're being serious, then here's the thing - Japan doesn't give a fuck. Anime are made by Japanese people primarily for the Japanese. You aren't their market. They don't owe you shit. Get over your entitlement. |
| Dude what kind of SJW gospel is this shit? I'm half black and I could fucking care less about whether or not they have Black MC's. There have been plenty of different black characters in supporting roles. Black Lagoon has Dutch. Bleach has Yoruichi and Tousen. Naruto has Killer Bee and Raikage. Tenjo Tenge has Bob. You have Afro Samurai that IS BLACK AND THE MC that I forgot to mention. Kilik from Soul Eater. There are also Anime that have been heavily inspired by Hip Hop Culture like Tokyo Tribes 2. Also saying all Japanese aren't accepting of different races is just untrue. Japan has had a hip hop scene since the late 80s. BLACK rappers have been doing shows in Japan since the 90s. Of course I'm not saying a majority of Japanese aren't xenophobic, most are, but to say the whole country is is just terribly fucking wrong. And for you to sit there crying about there being a lack of Black MC's in JAPANESE fiction is just fucking stupid. One more thing to add, Japanese aren't taught about diversity in school or about other races. It's more ignorance due to lack of knowledge than racism In my opinion. |
ZeroflamezDec 6, 2019 11:42 PM
Manaban said: Setsuei said: Jesus..why with the obsession with black characters in anime all of a sudden? They aren't they only ones who are under-represented in anime. This guy's M.O. is his interracial fetish, as will be displayed by his post history, and he's never actually expressing madness about the lack of presence of black anime characters in the broader spectrum of things, he's expressing anger at the lack of black harem/romcom MCs specifically, as has been made clear in previous threads. or i.e. in his own words in this thread: Ehurvaks said: They want our money and they want to listen to Jazz or Rap, but they can't even make one romcom anime with a Black MC ?? Also, he still wants the harem with the black MCs to be primarily Japanese girls with maybe a white-skinned American or European tossed in for good measure, according to his previous threads. So putting aside the "Lack of black harem MCs is the same sort of mentality Hitler had" and the praising of the American Imperialism of Perry that OP is going on about in this thread, I don't think this is really part of the discourse of representation or black people/minorities in anime. It's a lunatic getting mad about the lack of appeal to his fetishes. I do think it's a fair topic to discuss if people really want to, I guess. But threads started by this specific OP aren't the ones to have good discussion in, an attempt to move it to a different environment where a different and more sane person is defining the parameters of the discussion should be made. Ok, I get the picture now. It seems I gave this person too much credit in assuming this was going to be some kind of deep conversation about the lack of diversity in Japanese media. If this is just about there not being any black MCs in harem anime, then my only advice is if they really want it that badly then they should just write their own damn fanfic. |
| You realize the reason why there's a lack of black MCs is less about the fact that there aren't that many black people in Japan, but more about the fact that the lack of black people in Japan make them far less likely to know how to properly portray black people without being racist right? Do you really want a main character that's more akin to Mr. Popo than an actual black person? Seriously, I get that you're so upset about this that you're gonna do literally nothing but talk about black people in anime, but at least try to think about it for more than 10 seconds. Should there be more black people in anime? Sure. That doesn't mean that having that as your main point makes every single thing you say correct. Edit: Now that I really read your post, you're actually pretty racist yourself just seeing all Japanese people as lacking the patience, sensitivity and tolerance to be accepting of people of differences. Either you're shitposting, or you're actually that lacking in self awareness. |
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Setsuei said: Ok, I get the picture now. It seems I gave this person too much credit in assuming this was going to be some kind of deep conversation about the lack of diversity in Japanese media. If this is just about there not being any black MCs in harem anime, then my only advice is if they really want it that badly then they should just write their own damn fanfic. Yeah, the issue isn't the sexual fantasy or fetish fuel aspect of his intentions, I very much would not want to come across that way because I don't have any issues with it. Obviously I wouldn't, given my station on this site, but I digress. This isn't the thread or the OP to treat this discussion seriously and I'll just reiterate my position I edited into the post later when I was quoting someone else. Just scroll through his fuckin' post history, scheiß egal. If you people bite on this and try to turn it into a "legitimate" diversity in media flame war or more SJW/anti-SJW bullshit then you're either completely missing out on what should be the bipartisan stupidity of OP or taking the bait like a motherfucker, depending on whether or not he's a lunatic or a shitposter. And god knows it's futile to stop people from being stupid and delusional so I don't know why I'm bothering getting pre-emptively irritated with what I'm very much predicting this thread will turn into. OnionKnightRises said: Edit: Now that I really read your post, you're actually pretty racist yourself just seeing all Japanese people as lacking the patience, sensitivity and tolerance to be accepting of people of differences. The dude just wants his Black Harem MC with his gaggle of Japanese bitches and one white woman. This isn't about promoting diversity at all, so of course he can say racist shit as much as he pleases. Anything claiming it is would be absolutely absurd. Because we need to steer the topic away from the idea that this is about promoting diversity or calling out the racist aspects of Japanese society or something and is something more than a discussion where the parameters are being defined by a lunatic who's ostensibly trying to exploit people who'll bite on these topics to give credibility to somebody who says the absurd shit he does, all very brazenly for something much more selfish than it's being treated as. So let's all just try to not bite on it too much. ---- Ehurvaks said: XOGenaSYS, a manga adapted to anime by D'Art Shtajio has ONE BIG PROBLEM though. Most of the characters in it are black, and that is something I dislike, as I want a Harem Anime with a Black Protagonist very much, but I'd like for 80 percent of all the heroines to be Japanese or Western anime girls with white or fair skin. So while I want a Dark-Skinned Non-Japanese MC, I also want White-Skinned Heroines in it for diversity in Interracial Romance for fapping to, as I'm into that shit as a matter of personal preference. here's a gem for everyone to read btw |
ManabanDec 7, 2019 12:00 AM
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| @Manaban I really shouldn't be surprised by any of this considering how long I've been on MAL, but I have a habit of giving certain posts the benefit of the doubt on the off chance the op is actually being serious. |
Setsuei said: @Manaban I really shouldn't be surprised by any of this considering how long I've been on MAL, but I have a habit of giving certain posts the benefit of the doubt on the off chance the op is actually being serious. I think it's good to do so and I tend to assume people are serious as well, despite half of a decade and 5000+ posts that should tell me the opposite. It's just, bleh, I decided to go on a weird little crusade to try to derail this thread to do what I can to prevent it becoming another shitstain. A doomed effort but might as well commit to it until I'm bored trying. |
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Manaban said: Setsuei said: @Manaban I really shouldn't be surprised by any of this considering how long I've been on MAL, but I have a habit of giving certain posts the benefit of the doubt on the off chance the op is actually being serious. I think it's good to do so and I tend to assume people are serious as well, despite half of a decade and 5000+ posts that should tell me the opposite. It's just, bleh, I decided to go on a weird little crusade to try to derail this thread to do what I can to prevent it becoming another shitstain. A doomed effort but might as well commit to it until I'm bored trying. I can't say I blame you for that. I've seen what's happened to other threads you've posted in, so I know what you mean. In all honesty sometimes I prefer it when a thread goes to shit, since there's a certain level of entertainment in it. |
| @Manaban I wanted to make a reply to them because I know there's probably some part of them that's taking this seriously, but you're right, we probably should stop giving this person attention. Anyone worth debating with wouldn't post the way this person does, it's pretty suspicious how they never really post in response to people countering their logic |
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Setsuei said: Manaban said: I think it's good to do so and I tend to assume people are serious as well, despite half of a decade and 5000+ posts that should tell me the opposite. It's just, bleh, I decided to go on a weird little crusade to try to derail this thread to do what I can to prevent it becoming another shitstain. A doomed effort but might as well commit to it until I'm bored trying. I can't say I blame you for that. I've seen what's happened to other threads you've posted in, so I know what you mean. In all honesty sometimes I prefer it when a thread goes to shit, since there's a certain level of entertainment in it. Seen what happened to other threads I've posted in? Why, whatever do you mean? I'm widely beloved by all and only have friendly conversations. It's a combination of my patient and positive personality and generally welcoming and warm demeanor. |
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Manaban said: Setsuei said: I can't say I blame you for that. I've seen what's happened to other threads you've posted in, so I know what you mean. In all honesty sometimes I prefer it when a thread goes to shit, since there's a certain level of entertainment in it. Seen what happened to other threads I've posted in? Why, whatever do you mean? I'm widely beloved by all and only have friendly conversations. It's a combination of my patient and positive personality and generally welcoming and warm demeanor. Ah,yes. I must have mistaken you for someone else. My apologies for the mix up, kind sir. |
| I've always wondered about how people like you start viewing any sort of entertainment, like do you go into something always looking for some sort of representation or whatever for a different race? Is that just the most important thing in any form of entertainment? like when I'm watching something, anime or anything for that matter I'm never thinking "oh man I sure hope there's some Mexican/American character in this so that I can get some sort of weird satisfaction from being "represented" or something for me in this anime" I never even think about the characters race or whatever lmao. |
| I wont believe that you have bought many manga and light novels unless you show me some proof |
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| I know I will have a good laugh if I read this post, but I am too lazy now ... |
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare. But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !" |
| If you go through op thread history you will see a lot threads related to black character in anime. |
| I'm still trying to figure out whether your obsession with interracial is because of the self-insert angle or because cuckoldry. Hey look, I actually somewhat agree with you. I'd love to see a Magi style anime about Ancient African kingdoms. There's plenty of anime set in Europe or based on European cultures. It seems like a waste to have an entire continent of potential storytelling and do nothing with it. That said, there's a difference between having organic stories with non-white, non-Japanese characters vs forcefully injecting a black guy into your favorite harem just so that you can have Diversity DxD, Blacked Kishi no Cavalry or Freezing: I Never Freeze. |
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| I for one support OP in his efforts and will offer up my waifus to be in his black MC harem anime. |
| Oh...god first of all japan is very conservative country,so please don´t expect them to suddenly follow western values for no reason just because majority of anime watchers are western,anime is made in japan,and it´s going to follow japanese people´s values wether you like it or not.And second,what made you think that the Korean,or chinese are any less racist?As a chinese,i know first hand that the chinese are just as prejudiced against black people,so that is a stupid assumption to make. |
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| Everybody's sick of OP's endless shitposts about their fetish about black people. Ban them for trolling and racism already |
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