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Nov 3, 2019 9:59 AM
#151
The entirity of shiro emiya. the fuckin SUN feitan literally pulled out of his ass against that hot spider girl. Gythia said: su moch this T_TThe whole Fairy Tail series, especially Makarov, Erza and Natsu |
Nov 3, 2019 10:12 AM
#152
monkeyDberzerk said: Esquirtit said: @S-Mazoku Yes I am a filthy fanboy. You can't nitpick what is and isn't foreshadowing. Also I never said that scene with Ging took place on the Dark Continent. It's just like GI an unexplored island, implying there's much more. @monkeyDberzerk Nen is just life force in HxH, any living thing has it. In Yorknew there was a girl who could foretell the future but didn't know anything about Nen. Also no repercussions?? I'm pretty sure there were... except with Killua's wish that indeed is kinda BS but not an asspull when Nen as a concept is fluid and we've seen examples of that throughout the series The fact that it can grant practically any wish without any repercussions while breaking the very law that nen hatsus are based on (vows and limitations) makes it broken. Togashi simply ignored every limitation of nen and created a Mary Sue with no foreshadowing, and that's what makes Nanika an asspull. And no there were no repercussions for the user, i.e., Nanika/Alluka/Ai. Mary Sue? Lol sure some demonic creature who killed hundreds of people and doesn't have any morals... not even a shred of human qualities. ''Give me your liver!'' asked the Mary Sue That aside we still don't know what repercussions there are for the user or how different this type of aura is for creatures like it. Whatever, feel free to call it asspulls. I call it expanding the world Let's just leave it at that |
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Nov 3, 2019 11:36 AM
#153
monkeyDberzerk said: S-Mazoku said: monkeyDberzerk said: S-Mazoku said: monkeyDberzerk said: Orion_Gospel said: Every One Piece arc, especially after the timeskip Any examples? The only major asspull I've seen so far is Snakeman and even that's explainable to an extent. How is that even an asspull in the first place? When Gear 4th was first revealed, for the first time it had an extra name (sub-name) — Gear 4th: Boundman. This is unlike Gear 2nd & Gear 3rd. Clearly Oda was foreshadowing that there are other variants of Gear 4th, so Gear 4th: Snakeman existing is not an asspull in any way. The fact that it wasn't used before Luffy's fight against Katakuri is considered to be an asspull by some people, but it really isn't, because none of his previous opponents had foresight. I don't consider it to be an asspull, some people in the fandom do. Then the minority of readers don’t pay attention. The form was efficient against Katakuri precisely because it utilised the Advanced Future Sight Observation Haki that Luffy learnt from fighting Katakuri prior to using Gear 4th: Snake Man He needed to train his Observation Haki by fighting against Katakuri in his normal form so that when he used Snakeman, he would be able to use Future Sight to track the location of Katakuri to quickly hit him. If anything is an asspull in One Piece, it’s Gear 2nd. But nobody calls it that because prior to first using it, it was already established that Luffy comes up with techniques on the spot when he sees something cool — eg, when Luffy saw a pinwheel hat in Arlong Park, he got excited and thought of a new technique which he used later on. Yes, he was inspired to create the Gear 2nd technique by seeing CP9 agents using Soru. But still, it could’ve been foreshadowed better. I already said that I don't consider Snakeman to be an asspull so I have no idea why you're still arguing. Or are you not? Haha I wasn’t arguing with you, but disproving the minority of readers. lapontantot said: Attack on Titan How armin survived after burned and fall from 50+m heights and Erwin survived after got biten by a titan Reiner survived after his neck sliced by levi and his head blown off by scouts yet still alive lmao and for the latest ch, eren got an overpowered time travel ability which is a total bullshit from all anime history Mod Edit: Added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. The last point was clearly foreshadowed, that’s not an asspull. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
FancyjasperNov 9, 2019 8:18 AM
Nov 3, 2019 11:44 AM
#154
KuroudoAkabane said: The entirity of shiro emiya. Why Shirou? You can say he is helped by the plot more than any other protagonist (depending on the route) but I don´t think he have any notable asspull. |
Nov 3, 2019 3:18 PM
#155
Dante012 said: @Tap_Dancin_Kaiju : About Mai HIME: I always figured the hit was simply not strong enough. Kagutsuchi is the God of Fire, and is often mentionned as the most powerful creature in this anime. His reappearance looks just like how a flame reappears if you try to extinct it but fail to do so. Do you see what I mean? My point is, it's not a resurrection. It just survived the hit. But the very end of this series, THAT was a definite asspull xD! Hmm, I can see that. And yes, convenient full cast resurrection is convenient lol Still loved how they portrayed the sword duel, kaiju duel, & hime duel going on in the same cave though |
Nov 3, 2019 3:26 PM
#156
Luffy transform to gear4 (snake man) to defeat katakuri ! |
Nov 3, 2019 3:29 PM
#157
Nov 3, 2019 3:54 PM
#158
Jojo has many asspulls but I don't think that is one. Star Finger is an asspull though. |
Nov 3, 2019 3:57 PM
#159
Obviously Dragon Ball is arsepull, after arsepull, after arsepull. |
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Nov 3, 2019 9:23 PM
#160
*Fairy Tail especially the final fight between Natsu and Zeref. Special mention to Doranbolt stupid plot twist. *Dr. Stone along with unrealistic characters. *Trunks somehow does a Spirit Sword in Dragon Ball Super. *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. |
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Nov 3, 2019 9:26 PM
#161
A rapist comes out of nowhere to ruin the story. |
Nov 3, 2019 9:48 PM
#163
Hc_21 said: Deduleadaa said: Jojo part 3 Star Platinum's power-up at the end of stardust crusaders by far That is nothin compared to how joseph defeated kars That was a big asspull, but it was a fun asspull, so I'd agree more with part 3. There was an explanation as to why it happened, but they didn't explain it well enough or at all in the show so it instead felt like it came out of nowhere |
Nov 3, 2019 10:29 PM
#164
Demon slayer episode 19 is the example of asspull of this year, i dont know other people find it amazing. When Tanjiro had a flame sword I know its gonna be BS. And Nezuko with a power of the blood is BS too. Tanjiro having power of imagination is BS itself. |
Nov 3, 2019 10:35 PM
#165
When Jotaro said "oh, so it's the same type of a stand as Star Platinum" Jotaro just steals The Worlds ability. |
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Nov 3, 2019 10:51 PM
#166
Every major fight in Naruto/DBZ. You know it's bad when they number "power up" forms. Ultra instinct has to be the worst culprit |
Nov 3, 2019 11:40 PM
#167
@Jus1294 To my understanding Trigger stopped righting halfway through and stuck with animation Thesaurust said: Demon slayer episode 19 is the example of asspull of this year, i dont know other people find it amazing. When Tanjiro had a flame sword I know its gonna be BS. And Nezuko with a power of the blood is BS too. Tanjiro having power of imagination is BS itself. I'm not sure how you found that an asspull, Tanjirou didn't win the fight... the breath of the sun fits perfectly in with the story and writing. edelgord said: A rapist comes out of nowhere to ruin the story. I see you also like SAO. Nurguburu said: *Fairy Tail especially the final fight between Natsu and Zeref. Special mention to Doranbolt stupid plot twist. *Dr. Stone along with unrealistic characters. *Trunks somehow does a Spirit Sword in Dragon Ball Super. *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. explain how Dr. Stone is unrealistic? |
Nov 3, 2019 11:51 PM
#168
Recent fight Luffy vs Katakuri is the ugliest asspull I ever seen. A really disgusting thing. I still question myself if I should drop this damn show already :D And speaking of Deus ex Machina, I gotta mention Clannad. When the show is kinda boring and nonsensical and just goes nowhere, but it still needs to be somehow finished and creators just pull some random pseudo-emotional events right out of their asses. (Yeah, I know it's just a porn game adaptation and is made by notorious KyoAni, but man, it was incredibly lame) |
Nemo_NiemandNov 4, 2019 11:52 AM
Nov 3, 2019 11:53 PM
#169
Nov 4, 2019 12:13 AM
#170
YeeYeeAss said: When Jotaro said "oh, so it's the same type of a stand as Star Platinum" Jotaro just steals The Worlds ability. Well, each stand has its distinct ability, and for some reason Jotaro's didn't have any. Until he acquired Za Warudo. Let's suppose that Jotaro's Za Warudo is just Star Platinum Act 2. Why it copied Dio's ability is another question. I guess it's just another "Araki forgot" and there had to be some adequate explanation |
Nov 4, 2019 3:22 AM
#171
@Superns18 No, Another user didn't understand it very well so I was explaining it to him/her |
Nov 4, 2019 6:12 AM
#172
Esquirtit said: monkeyDberzerk said: Esquirtit said: @S-Mazoku Yes I am a filthy fanboy. You can't nitpick what is and isn't foreshadowing. Also I never said that scene with Ging took place on the Dark Continent. It's just like GI an unexplored island, implying there's much more. @monkeyDberzerk Nen is just life force in HxH, any living thing has it. In Yorknew there was a girl who could foretell the future but didn't know anything about Nen. Also no repercussions?? I'm pretty sure there were... except with Killua's wish that indeed is kinda BS but not an asspull when Nen as a concept is fluid and we've seen examples of that throughout the series The fact that it can grant practically any wish without any repercussions while breaking the very law that nen hatsus are based on (vows and limitations) makes it broken. Togashi simply ignored every limitation of nen and created a Mary Sue with no foreshadowing, and that's what makes Nanika an asspull. And no there were no repercussions for the user, i.e., Nanika/Alluka/Ai. Mary Sue? Lol sure some demonic creature who killed hundreds of people and doesn't have any morals... not even a shred of human qualities. ''Give me your liver!'' asked the Mary Sue That aside we still don't know what repercussions there are for the user or how different this type of aura is for creatures like it. Whatever, feel free to call it asspulls. I call it expanding the world Let's just leave it at that I think it was pretty obvious that I was taking abut the fact that Nanika lacks any weaknesses when I called her a Mary Sue archetype, and then there's the fact that Alluka is kinda of a Mary Sue (when taking about Morality). If every random addition to a story was considered to be 'a part of the expanding world' asspulls wouldn't exist. The fact that a character as powerful and limitless as Nanika was introduced right when Gon was about to die makes it an asspull objectively. If you understand what 'assull' means, there shouldn't even be any argument here. |
Nov 4, 2019 6:15 AM
#173
SkingM said: Luffy transform to gear4 (snake man) to defeat katakuri ! This 'asspull' had already been debunked in a lot of comments throughout this thread. Nurguburu said: *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. Doffy's insides were sliced up by Law's Gamma kinfe, Luffy was protected by Sabo, Gyats and all the fighters from the colloseum, and Doffy was finally defeated in the third fight, first with Law, then with Luffy and then Luffy again with King Kong gun. I don't see how Luffy vs Doffy was an asspull. Pain vs Naruto isn't as asspull as much as it's bad writing. Naruto spends days mastering sage mode only to get thrashed by Pain and then he defeats him with the one solution to all his problems - Kurama. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
FancyjasperNov 9, 2019 8:22 AM
Nov 4, 2019 6:22 AM
#174
Gon's powerup against Pitou from Hunter X Hunter. He pulled that one directly out of his anus and basically one shotted an enemy that's been hyped up for some 60 episodes until then. To compare their difference in power, it would be like if Sasuke just killed Itachi with his Chidori during their first encounter in Naruto. But it's fine because he was really really REALLY angry. That stupid. Yes so many braindead fans will defend it as masterful writing. lol |
Nov 4, 2019 11:49 AM
#175
vegeta8639 said: Gon's powerup against Pitou from Hunter X Hunter. He pulled that one directly out of his anus and basically one shotted an enemy that's been hyped up for some 60 episodes until then. To compare their difference in power, it would be like if Sasuke just killed Itachi with his Chidori during their first encounter in Naruto. But it's fine because he was really really REALLY angry. That stupid. Yes so many braindead fans will defend it as masterful writing. lol I guess you didn't get it right. This power wasn't taken from nowhere. It is called a 'vow', similar to what Kurapika had made. And these vows always cost an equal payback. The price for what Gon had gotten was very high. Actually he was going to suffer and die after that (and would definitely die if there wasn't another asspull from Killua). |
Nov 4, 2019 11:55 AM
#176
Pakumen- said: No no, I am not saying emiya shitro IN universe has asspulls. Like feitan did with that fuckin SUN! the very existence of shiro is an asspull, I mean he was literally pulled out of a burning ass out of nowhere at the end of fate zero by kiru. Everything and everyone else was burned to a crisp, but he survived. KuroudoAkabane said: The entirity of shiro emiya. Why Shirou? You can say he is helped by the plot more than any other protagonist (depending on the route) but I don´t think he have any notable asspull. vegeta8639 said: ok lets T roll.Gon's powerup against Pitou from Hunter X Hunter. He pulled that one directly out of his anus and basically one shotted an enemy that's been hyped up for some 60 episodes until then. To compare their difference in power, it would be like if Sasuke just killed Itachi with his Chidori during their first encounter in Naruto. But it's fine because he was really really REALLY angry. That stupid. Yes so many braindead fans will defend it as masterful writing. lol well, there was a precedent set with the vows. He used all his future potential to go supersaiyan. and then he nearly died and would be unable to use nen ever. so not much of an asspull. what really turned out to be one was that stupid fucking in universe world breaking nanika that just senzu-beaned him right up to full power. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
FancyjasperNov 9, 2019 8:19 AM
Nov 4, 2019 12:01 PM
#177
@Nemo_Niemand He's retarded, let him be. His reasoning is that of a whiny kid. 'sO wHy DoEsN'T EvERyONe jUsT dO ThAt' Probably got spasm attacks when the fight didn't turn out like he wanted it to He doesn't cary about the facts, refuses to acknowledge the rules behind Nen and the breakdown of what happened Says enough he uses a comparison with another story where the power system is entirely different At least he's not as obnoxious as Hryabmi who still has mental scars (literally admitted that) |
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Nov 4, 2019 12:22 PM
#178
KuroudoAkabane said: vegeta8639 said: ok lets T roll.Gon's powerup against Pitou from Hunter X Hunter. He pulled that one directly out of his anus and basically one shotted an enemy that's been hyped up for some 60 episodes until then. To compare their difference in power, it would be like if Sasuke just killed Itachi with his Chidori during their first encounter in Naruto. But it's fine because he was really really REALLY angry. That stupid. Yes so many braindead fans will defend it as masterful writing. lol well, there was a precedent set with the vows. He used all his future potential to go supersaiyan. and then he nearly died and would be unable to use nen ever. so not much of an asspull. what really turned out to be one was that stupid fucking in universe world breaking nanika that just senzu-beaned him right up to full power. BHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Thanks for the laugh I really needed one. But no, giving him a consequence for using the asspull doesn't make it not an asspull. Not to mention Killua's brother/sister/thing healed him right up with another hax power making the sacrifice worthless. Just lol. And no a precedent was not set either. We saw people gaining power by setting restrictions on themselves. We've never seen anybody sacrifice future potential to pull that much power out of their ass nor was there ever any indication it could be done. Lastly even if we did, it would still be a garbage mechanic for the universe to have since in that case everyone would be using it if you were about to die anyway. People would just be using armies of kamikaze fighters who would all be as strong as Pitou for a few minutes before dying. Nemo_Niemand said: vegeta8639 said: Gon's powerup against Pitou from Hunter X Hunter. He pulled that one directly out of his anus and basically one shotted an enemy that's been hyped up for some 60 episodes until then. To compare their difference in power, it would be like if Sasuke just killed Itachi with his Chidori during their first encounter in Naruto. But it's fine because he was really really REALLY angry. That stupid. Yes so many braindead fans will defend it as masterful writing. lol I guess you didn't get it right. This power wasn't taken from nowhere. It is called a 'vow', similar to what Kurapika had made. And these vows always cost an equal payback. The price for what Gon had gotten was very high. Actually he was going to suffer and die after that (and would definitely die if there wasn't another asspull from Killua). I never said it was taken from nowhere, I am well aware that it was pulled directly from Gon's anus at the perfect time to defeat Pitou and I said as much. I'm just repeating myself but adding a negative consequence for an asspull doesn't make it not an asspull. If Sasuke had one shotted Itachi back during Naruto and died right after, that would not make it any better. It's just trash writing. At least other shounen like Bleach or Naruto let us know early on that the protagonist has a hollow/nine tailed fox inside of them which can grant them power so we can except this type of thing but in HxH, one second Gon is a little kid who Pitou can slap around effortlessly, next second he's all: "Lolz I can one shot you now because I sacrificed my nen or whatever because I can do that apparently." BRILLIANT writing guys! 11/10 BEST SHOW EVER! |
Nov 4, 2019 1:33 PM
#179
vegeta8639 said: No they wouldnt. I mean, FUTURE.People would just be using armies of kamikaze fighters who would all be as strong as Pitou for a few minutes before dying. POTENTIAL! Gon, son of Ging, direct descendant of Don Freecs. Has the actual future potential to go Beyond the RG. I t would probably take a Netero like regimen to achive and about 50 years, but he could/would get there eventually. he just skipped the 50 year long process, and while at age I dunno 78, he would be in his peak and use such insane power without consequence, he basically got fried for using it now, when he wasnt ready. Literally what happens to deku in mha. Your average idiot cant even use nen, and even among those that can, their levels are really low. so even if they pulled all their furute potential, they wouldnt stand a chance against pito, ever. The fact that Gon did it, its because hes Gon Freecs. The MC, who obviously is meant to surpass the likes of netero and ging. you know whats funny, they literally did this in fairytail too. And it got subnverted. IN FAIRYTAIL!! |
Nov 4, 2019 1:57 PM
#180
Everything in Danganronpa 3. Absolute asspull and ruined the series imo |
Nov 4, 2019 2:09 PM
#181
theDEMYSTIFier said: Gantz was a huge disappointment after some point unfortunately, the ending was massive asspull. I loved the Gantz manga until the Osaka Arc. But sadly after that, it went downhill. |
Nov 4, 2019 2:35 PM
#182
KuroudoAkabane said: vegeta8639 said: No they wouldnt. I mean, FUTURE.People would just be using armies of kamikaze fighters who would all be as strong as Pitou for a few minutes before dying. POTENTIAL! Gon, son of Ging, direct descendant of Don Freecs. Has the actual future potential to go Beyond the RG. I t would probably take a Netero like regimen to achive and about 50 years, but he could/would get there eventually. he just skipped the 50 year long process, and while at age I dunno 78, he would be in his peak and use such insane power without consequence, he basically got fried for using it now, when he wasnt ready. Literally what happens to deku in mha. Your average idiot cant even use nen, and even among those that can, their levels are really low. so even if they pulled all their furute potential, they wouldnt stand a chance against pito, ever. The fact that Gon did it, its because hes Gon Freecs. The MC, who obviously is meant to surpass the likes of netero and ging. you know whats funny, they literally did this in fairytail too. And it got subnverted. IN FAIRYTAIL!! Oh so Gon is just super DUPER special and that excuses him being able to one shot an enemy who's been shown to be insanely stronger than him. Totally not an asspull then. I'm not sure if that makes it better or worse tbh. Haven't seen MHA or Fairly Tail yet so I can't comment on those but all the shounens I've seen have handled similar protagonist power ups MUCH better. There's usually tons of foreshadowing and they don't use it to defeat such a hyped up enemy that's been shown to be THAT much stronger than them. Like in Naruto he goes Nine Tails mode against Orochimaru, fights him for a bit and Orochimaru just runs away leaving Naruto's team to deal with his rampage. Yea he got the power up but it just backfired. And when he used it against Pain, it really just helped him get out of his restraints and he still had to defeat Pain by himself. Not to mention the hundreds of episodes of foreshadowing that he had a fox and could get power from it. See that's a decent way to handle it. But Gon just pulls his power up out of his ass 100 episodes in to one shot his strongest enemy so far not counting Meruem. Such a garbage piece of shit conclusion I can't even believe people are deluded enough to defend it. Btw, if we're talking about potential then it doesn't matter whether the rando on the street can use nen or not. He has the POTENTIAL to learn it and maybe after 100 years of training they'd become super strong. Why the fuck not? Even if we assume that Gon is the only person in the world who can do this because the writer says so, it's still shit writing no matter how you slice it. |
Nov 4, 2019 3:03 PM
#183
Nemo_Niemand said: (Yeah, I know it's just a porn game adaptation and is made by notorious KyoAni, but man, it was incredibly lame) Actually Clannad was adapted from an all ages game (I was surprised myself when I found this out). It didn't have any explicit sex scenes, unlike Kanon and Air. |
Nov 4, 2019 3:14 PM
#184
KuroudoAkabane said: Pakumen- said: No no, I am not saying emiya shitro IN universe has asspulls. Like feitan did with that fuckin SUN! the very existence of shiro is an asspull, I mean he was literally pulled out of a burning ass out of nowhere at the end of fate zero by kiru. Everything and everyone else was burned to a crisp, but he survived. KuroudoAkabane said: The entirity of shiro emiya. Why Shirou? You can say he is helped by the plot more than any other protagonist (depending on the route) but I don´t think he have any notable asspull. What? Thats not what the fire at the end of the 4th war did at all. The grail mud caused devastation and fire but if the mud didn't touch you it was definitely possible to survive. There were plenty of people who weren't just dead Shirou walking past them in the fire is big part of his trauma. Even then Shriou was going to die Kerry saved him as he literally lay there dying and he could only do that by sticking a ridiculously powerful artifact in him. |
Nov 4, 2019 3:16 PM
#185
As expected majority of listed (if not all of them) are Shonen... For me it's the entire Nanatsu no Taizai. Almost every major character has died several times but still came back... like how and why? There's no debate about Fairy Tail, I liked it but that many asspuls are really ridiculous. Carole and Tuesday - I looved it but have to admit Valeries decision in last episode looked alogical and forced. |
Nov 4, 2019 8:47 PM
#186
@-michira- Well I think it makes sense, that's generally the genre that uses asspulls because of fights, power ups and other shit. I heard really bad shit about this season of Nanatsu no Taizai with censorship and the like. monkeyDberzerk said: Nurguburu said: *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. Doffy's insides were sliced up by Law's Gamma kinfe, Luffy was protected by Sabo, Gyats and all the fighters from the colloseum, and Doffy was finally defeated in the third fight, first with Law, then with Luffy and then Luffy again with King Kong gun. I don't see how Luffy vs Doffy was an asspull. Pain vs Naruto isn't as asspull as much as it's bad writing. Naruto spends days mastering sage mode only to get thrashed by Pain and then he defeats him with the one solution to all his problems - Kurama. *talk no jutsu*********** That fight made a lot of sense tho, Nagato had the Rinnegan and Naruto hadn't got SO6P mode yet |
Nov 5, 2019 2:48 PM
#187
Dai-Shouri said: when the hell did that happen? its not shown in zero or fsn......There were plenty of people who weren't just dead Shirou walking past them in the fire is big part of his trauma. Dai-Shouri said: Exactly!Even then Shriou was going to die Kerry saved him as he literally lay there dying and he could only do that by sticking a ridiculously powerful artifact in him. Emiya Kiritsugu had absolutely no reason to stick the sheath of the excalibur in a random baby's ass at the end of zero. He didnt need to save an unknown lil shit. The only reason it worked out that way was bcz its a prequel and they tried to justify shitro with that. vegeta8639 said: why dont you watch those first and then compare HXH to them.Haven't seen MHA or Fairly Tail yet so I can't comment on those vegeta8639 said: hes a shonen MC, they are all spl snowflakes, else they would just be dead. I mean that naruto of your is even more of a spl retard. he has that fox god or whatever ...... I didnt see naruto. Saw a few eps. so I dont know wht ur talking abt.Oh so Gon is just super DUPER special and that excuses him being able to one shot an enemy who's been shown to be insanely stronger than him. Mod Edit: Merged duplicated posts; please use the edit button. |
FancyjasperNov 9, 2019 2:07 PM
Nov 5, 2019 3:32 PM
#188
I have more watch time than you so I've seen plenty of shows to compare it to and I'm not sure HxH would even be in my top 100. But both MHA and Fairly Tail are on my ptw so I'll get to them eventually. Right away I can see that they both at least have 1 female character in their main cast so there's a one up on on HxH it right there. Yea great and he's the single WORST example. As I said earlier, other shows like Naruto or Bleach handled it much better because it's usually foreshadowed early on and it's not THIS much of a power up. Gon just did it out of nowhere in episode 130 (or close enough) with zero indication that he could do such a thing (No the fucking vow thing doesn't justify it because we've never seen anybody do anything CLOSE to this before) to one shot an enemy that's been hyped up for like 60 episodes. The single biggest asspull in anime history as the thread was asking for. Pointing me to another not nearly as bad asspull doesn't help your case at all. KuroudoAkabane said: I could repeat the whole thing about vows, but its not gonna go thru ur thick skull. Yes you can parrot the show's bullshit explanation yet again and it won't get you anywhere. You might as well be saying: "Well he can do this because the writer says so and that excuses it." We could have instead had a fucking unicorn show up to one shot Pitou in exchange for Gon's left nuttsack and you'd be repeating that the HxH universe has unicorns that sometimes do this so it's not an asspull. And to foreshadow this, we would have seen a few horses standing around during the first 129 episodes. That is literally what your argument sounds like to me. Even if I grant every single thing you're saying, we are left with shit writing that was foreshadowed but other shows have shit writing too so that makes it better. Brilliant case mate. |
Nov 5, 2019 3:44 PM
#189
so you' ve watched 20 more days of anime than me. Thats something to brag about, good on ya mate. |
Nov 5, 2019 4:44 PM
#190
KuroudoAkabane said: Dai-Shouri said: when the hell did that happen? its not shown in zero or fsn......There were plenty of people who weren't just dead Shirou walking past them in the fire is big part of his trauma. Dai-Shouri said: Exactly!Even then Shriou was going to die Kerry saved him as he literally lay there dying and he could only do that by sticking a ridiculously powerful artifact in him. Emiya Kiritsugu had absolutely no reason to stick the sheath of the excalibur in a random baby's ass at the end of zero. He didnt need to save an unknown lil shit. The only reason it worked out that way was bcz its a prequel and they tried to justify shitro with that. Edit didn't see the first part: Well yeah it was shown in the fate route which doesn't have a proper adaptation. It was still shown in UBW a bit but Ufotable has been average to just bad at adapting stay night. Did you decide to ignore the end of Zero? Kiritsugu was desperate to save someone, anyone. He justified a ridiculous amount of killing by saying that it would be worth it to save to world. His plan to do this just spat in his face. He thought he just caused the absolute disaster in front of him and had to save someone to retain his sanity. Shirou says when I looked up it felt like the man above me had been saved instead of me. How genuinely happy Kiritsugu looked after doing so, because of what I just said, is a big part of Shirous character. Also not sure what you mean by this is because it a prequel this scene is described in the VN. |
swordpersonNov 5, 2019 4:59 PM
Nov 5, 2019 6:01 PM
#191
Definitely SnK S3 P2, especially since it was so important an entire episode was devoted to it when it shouldn't have even happened in the first place Also Pokemon had a lot of asspulls Love Live as well although I can't remember too much about it though |
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Nov 5, 2019 10:36 PM
#192
vegeta8639 said: That right there is the problem.I actually trust my knowledge and experience so much that I can GUARANTEE without a shadow of a doubt that whatever happens in MHA and Fairly Tail is not going to be as bad as this. Probably not even close. Otherwise I would have heard about it by now. Come back and say this after you watch the entirety of FairyTail. |
Nov 5, 2019 10:38 PM
#193
Dai-Shouri said: which VN? the orignal porny one?KuroudoAkabane said: Dai-Shouri said: There were plenty of people who weren't just dead Shirou walking past them in the fire is big part of his trauma. Dai-Shouri said: Even then Shriou was going to die Kerry saved him as he literally lay there dying and he could only do that by sticking a ridiculously powerful artifact in him. Emiya Kiritsugu had absolutely no reason to stick the sheath of the excalibur in a random baby's ass at the end of zero. He didnt need to save an unknown lil shit. The only reason it worked out that way was bcz its a prequel and they tried to justify shitro with that. Edit didn't see the first part: Well yeah it was shown in the fate route which doesn't have a proper adaptation. It was still shown in UBW a bit but Ufotable has been average to just bad at adapting stay night. Did you decide to ignore the end of Zero? Kiritsugu was desperate to save someone, anyone. He justified a ridiculous amount of killing by saying that it would be worth it to save to world. His plan to do this just spat in his face. He thought he just caused the absolute disaster in front of him and had to save someone to retain his sanity. Shirou says when I looked up it felt like the man above me had been saved instead of me. How genuinely happy Kiritsugu looked after doing so, because of what I just said, is a big part of Shirous character. Also not sure what you mean by this is because it a prequel this scene is described in the VN. why should we be bothered abt vns lns etc. the anime is the only thing that matters |
Nov 5, 2019 11:06 PM
#194
KuroudoAkabane said: Dai-Shouri said: which VN? the orignal porny one?KuroudoAkabane said: Dai-Shouri said: when the hell did that happen? its not shown in zero or fsn......There were plenty of people who weren't just dead Shirou walking past them in the fire is big part of his trauma. Dai-Shouri said: Exactly!Even then Shriou was going to die Kerry saved him as he literally lay there dying and he could only do that by sticking a ridiculously powerful artifact in him. Emiya Kiritsugu had absolutely no reason to stick the sheath of the excalibur in a random baby's ass at the end of zero. He didnt need to save an unknown lil shit. The only reason it worked out that way was bcz its a prequel and they tried to justify shitro with that. Edit didn't see the first part: Well yeah it was shown in the fate route which doesn't have a proper adaptation. It was still shown in UBW a bit but Ufotable has been average to just bad at adapting stay night. Did you decide to ignore the end of Zero? Kiritsugu was desperate to save someone, anyone. He justified a ridiculous amount of killing by saying that it would be worth it to save to world. His plan to do this just spat in his face. He thought he just caused the absolute disaster in front of him and had to save someone to retain his sanity. Shirou says when I looked up it felt like the man above me had been saved instead of me. How genuinely happy Kiritsugu looked after doing so, because of what I just said, is a big part of Shirous character. Also not sure what you mean by this is because it a prequel this scene is described in the VN. why should we be bothered abt vns lns etc. the anime is the only thing that matters I mean first of all you ignored everything I said that had nothing to do with the VN but I answered what you were saying about it happening because its a prequel. It clearly wasn't since it was in the source material. Also wut are you saying manga and other source material should be ignored? If you've got some kinda stigma against porn the remake without it has been out for 7 years. Anyways thats why Kerry saved Shirou which I'm still confused you missed it was very important part of the end of zero. |
Nov 6, 2019 1:19 AM
#195
Surprised no one mentioned Aldnoah.Zero, it full of them. Probably no ones cares because the anime it's pretty shit even if you ignore the asspulls. The most recent asspull I have seen is Dragon Ball Super and Goku infinite energy. It's so bad that it even becomes a meme in the show. Shockingly bad. |
Nov 6, 2019 1:25 AM
#196
Short_Circut said: Definitely SnK S3 P2, especially since it was so important an entire episode was devoted to it when it shouldn't have even happened in the first place there is a difference between plot armor and asspull |
Nov 6, 2019 2:11 AM
#197
KuroudoAkabane said: vegeta8639 said: That right there is the problem.I actually trust my knowledge and experience so much that I can GUARANTEE without a shadow of a doubt that whatever happens in MHA and Fairly Tail is not going to be as bad as this. Probably not even close. Otherwise I would have heard about it by now. Come back and say this after you watch the entirety of FairyTail. Yea sure let me watch all 326 episode real quick and get back to you. Foh. We both know that HxH scene was trash and Fairy Tail being worse wouldn't change that fact. You're just too blinded by fanboyism to acknowledge it. |
Nov 6, 2019 5:05 AM
#198
Superns18 said: @-michira- Well I think it makes sense, that's generally the genre that uses asspulls because of fights, power ups and other shit. I heard really bad shit about this season of Nanatsu no Taizai with censorship and the like. monkeyDberzerk said: Nurguburu said: *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. Doffy's insides were sliced up by Law's Gamma kinfe, Luffy was protected by Sabo, Gyats and all the fighters from the colloseum, and Doffy was finally defeated in the third fight, first with Law, then with Luffy and then Luffy again with King Kong gun. I don't see how Luffy vs Doffy was an asspull. Pain vs Naruto isn't as asspull as much as it's bad writing. Naruto spends days mastering sage mode only to get thrashed by Pain and then he defeats him with the one solution to all his problems - Kurama. *talk no jutsu*********** That fight made a lot of sense tho, Nagato had the Rinnegan and Naruto hadn't got SO6P mode yet Superns18 said: @-michira- Well I think it makes sense, that's generally the genre that uses asspulls because of fights, power ups and other shit. I heard really bad shit about this season of Nanatsu no Taizai with censorship and the like. monkeyDberzerk said: Nurguburu said: *Luffy vs Doflamingo and Luffy vs Katakuri. *Pain vs Naruto or Sasuke's fight with Deidara. Doffy's insides were sliced up by Law's Gamma kinfe, Luffy was protected by Sabo, Gyats and all the fighters from the colloseum, and Doffy was finally defeated in the third fight, first with Law, then with Luffy and then Luffy again with King Kong gun. I don't see how Luffy vs Doffy was an asspull. Pain vs Naruto isn't as asspull as much as it's bad writing. Naruto spends days mastering sage mode only to get thrashed by Pain and then he defeats him with the one solution to all his problems - Kurama. *talk no jutsu*********** That fight made a lot of sense tho, Nagato had the Rinnegan and Naruto hadn't got SO6P mode yet I'm assuming 'made a lot of sense' is just sarcasm. Abd what about Luffy vs Doffy? |
Nov 6, 2019 9:48 AM
#199
lavah said: Short_Circut said: Definitely SnK S3 P2, especially since it was so important an entire episode was devoted to it when it shouldn't have even happened in the first place there is a difference between plot armor and asspull then that's a very fine line of a difference There's legit no believable reason how they were even alive at that moment, even the show itself (at least the anime part) didn't even bother to explain it. |
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Nov 6, 2019 12:47 PM
#200
*whispers very softly* seven quirks. |
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