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Oct 4, 2019 8:57 AM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Man i can tell you this is the best chapter in entire SNK history,


The Tree was the one responsible for The Titan powers and the backstory Of Ymir was really sad.


Finally Eren gave her the encouragement to fight against everything bad done to her and Rumbling started.
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Oct 4, 2019 9:00 AM
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Korean typeset if you want to https://manamoa.net/bbs/board.php?bo_table=manga&wr_id=2037308

Edit: Final Page looks amazing

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Oct 4, 2019 11:12 AM
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The king had his daughters eat Ymir so that they would inherit her powers Eldia is the evil empire in this story
Oct 4, 2019 11:34 AM
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I feel so sorry for Ymir chan... she literally cried..makes me cry too
Oct 4, 2019 11:35 AM
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The daughters eating Ymir was in the season 2 ending song right? And we officially see it in the manga now... thats pretty sick
Oct 4, 2019 11:36 AM
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Also the fact that Historia actually resembles Ymir so much...wow..Even their sad backstory...even their pregnancy,,
So Ymir died protecting the king then Historia also die protecting Eren? lol that would be absurd and I hope that's not true
Oct 4, 2019 11:42 AM
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ONE OF THE BEST REVELATIONS EVER HOLY SHIZZZ
YMIR A GOD? OR A DEMON? NOPPPEEEEEE SHE WAS JUST A SLAVEEE
AND EREN GIVING FREEDOM TO HER HELL YEAAAAAA
RUMBLING IS STARTING LADS THE END IS NEAR

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Oct 4, 2019 11:47 AM
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oh shit we got the whole backstory of Ymir the founder titan so thats how the Titan power got split and how titans are inherited began, fucking hell she should have killed that Eldian king in the first place but she was too kind or maybe robotic/docile/slave for her own good

the rumbling is here finally too
Oct 4, 2019 11:49 AM
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What an amazing chapter, also that title "from you 2000 years ago" in relation to chapter 1 "to you 2000 years in the future" it is all coming full circle, also the art was incredible, Ymir backstory and then Eren declaration to end the world, rage Eren from season 1 saying he is going to destroy the world was a foreshadowing all along!
Oct 4, 2019 11:58 AM

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and also its the tree of life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life
tree of life, connecting all forms of creation, are both forms of the world tree or cosmic tree,[2] and are portrayed in various religions and philosophies as the same tree.[3]

thats where the PATHS came from eh
Oct 4, 2019 12:08 PM

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Looks like Eren became a ridiculosly OP character in an insanely asspull way... But maybe I'm missing the point since I only "read" the RAW version and I can't speak Japanese/Korean.
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Looks like Eren became a ridiculosly OP character in an insanely asspull way... But maybe I'm missing the point since I only "read" the RAW version and I can't speak Japanese/Korean.


the english scanlation is out now thats what i have read, go to reddit sub of attack on titan to find it
Oct 4, 2019 12:25 PM

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SheevPalpatine said:
Looks like Eren became a ridiculosly OP character in an insanely asspull way... But maybe I'm missing the point since I only "read" the RAW version and I can't speak Japanese/Korean.


Probably it would have been a better idea to read the translation first, before making assumption, it gives the impression that you have a negative bias mindset towards the series.

Not saying that is the case, but just that is how it looks, as you even yourself pointed out that you may be wrong.
Oct 4, 2019 12:26 PM
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WiT is the best studio and Isayama is foreshadowing god.

From S2 ED https://youtu.be/rbfHY8mkhT8
Oct 4, 2019 12:27 PM
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Ymir's backstory is a ugly bastard hentai.
Oct 4, 2019 12:28 PM
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deg said:
and also its the tree of life https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life
tree of life, connecting all forms of creation, are both forms of the world tree or cosmic tree,[2] and are portrayed in various religions and philosophies as the same tree.[3]

thats where the PATHS came from eh



After reading it, seems like tree of life in this context is a parallel to the one used in Norse Mythology. Either way it needs to explain a lot of things, including the source of power and paths, adding to the many questions in previous chapter. Eren's talk no jutsu was fun though.

Pretty interesting to see that season 2 ending is basically a hint to this chapter.

SheevPalpatine said:
Looks like Eren became a ridiculosly OP character in an insanely asspull way... But maybe I'm missing the point since I only "read" the RAW version and I can't speak Japanese/Korean.


Eren has been overpowered for a while now anyway, although Ymir obeying him after Zeke's drama about royal descent having the only power for that is pretty funny.
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Oct 4, 2019 12:37 PM

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Fantastic chapter.

So it turns out Ymir wasn't a god or a devil after all, she was just a random slave that was singled out to blame for something she didn't do, had her eyes gouged out, then hunted down and fell into a giant vat of liquid under a unusually tall tree containing a weird looking parasite that looked like a human spine. Jury's still out on whether this is the fabled "source of all organic matter" though.

So elements of Marleyan and Eldian scripture were both correct and incorrect at the same time, twisted to suit particular narratives and belief systems, and there was no devil at all.

It's confirmed that Ymir wasn't killed by the "13 year curse" but by a spear by an unknown enemy soldier. However, I still think there is a 13 year curse for titan shifters that came after her. 13 years being the gap between her obtaining her power to when she died.

Falco made a reference about Reiner and his inability to heal when Eren destroyed Liberio in an earlier chapter, and how the shifter's ability to heal is predicated on their will to live and their motivations for doing so.

I wonder if Ymir purposely wanted to die and didn't heal herself when she was speared because she'd lost the will to live or had underlying motivations i.e her ability to peer into the future of her successor's and see her fate. Even the King seemed surprised when she didn't get back up and passed on.

All in all, a great chapter and it looks like the rumbling is gonna happen next chapter.

Oct 4, 2019 12:46 PM

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Damn that was great. I really want to but I am too tired to write something more.

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also the art was incredible


True, I think Ymir's crying face is one of the best, if no the best, Isayama has drawn so far. If not the best then certainly one of the most impactful in my opinion.
Oct 4, 2019 12:49 PM

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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

This was THE best foreshadowed connection of this whole manga.

From the very title of chapter one, to why Eren was crying, to the overall thematics of freedom in this series, to the twisted history of the world, everything fits so goddamn well now.

6/5
I feel so good that we got some of the best chapters of One Piece and this one in a matter of consecutive weeks.
Oct 4, 2019 12:54 PM
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My thoughts after finishing the chapter:

THIS IS THE END OF THE WORLD AS WE KNOW IT!!!
Oct 4, 2019 12:58 PM
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11/10 manga, truly a masterpiece
Oct 4, 2019 1:00 PM
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Now I want to know wtf was that thing that fused with Ymir and transformed her into a Titan. Inb4 aliens tho...
Oct 4, 2019 1:02 PM

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I have no idea what just happened but it was a solid chapter
Oct 4, 2019 1:07 PM

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When dad tells you to finish your dinner


Oct 4, 2019 1:11 PM

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Eren is the ultimate madman!
Oct 4, 2019 1:12 PM

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Finally the truth!

The Ymir that everyone called queen and a goddess was actually a terribly abused slave.

I want more information about that magical tree which turned Ymir into a titan. It was the only thing which felt supernatural in this whole story, and kind of out of place. (That is why we need Hanji and Armin; they made the titans and titan shifting look like science.)

The Ymir hunting scene reminded me of a scene in Game of Thrones that looked kind of similar.

I got goosebumps when the paths got created.

Eren gave his freedom speech even to Ymir. lol. Still, I felt kind of emotional.

Ymir was building the colossal titans, as if foreshadowing what was about to happen next.

Eren was trying to start the Rumbling that we have been hearing about for years. And he succeeded! I wonder how Gabi feels as she did make it easier in a way. (Maybe Eren knew she'd do that from the start!)

It was so cool how Eren's spine regrew!

A lot of the panels looked bloody awesome. I feel like the anime won't be able to make it look as good.

I still want to know how other titans were created. There were no titan serums back in the past.
Oct 4, 2019 1:23 PM

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Yooooo, the walls are collapsing. We're very close to the endgame it seems.
"At some point, I stopped hoping."
Oct 4, 2019 1:43 PM

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Holy! The end is near, maybe 4 or 5 chapters more, amazing chapter, all the characters are in danger.
I keep moving forward
Oct 4, 2019 1:44 PM

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I was expecting a different backstory to Ymir but holy hell, it was even more depressing than i thought it'd be.

I wonder if Eren meant he wanted to destroy the actual entire world or just the paths dimension. Having in count what seems to be Eren's motivations, the paths option makes more sense but there were moments in the story that could be a foreshadow to him wanting to really end their whole world.

Either way, i find this chapter's cliffhanger even bigger than the last one. I honestly can't think how events will play out now.
There's only one more thing bothering me, we see again the colossal titans facing to the inside of the wall and not outside where Marley and the other nations are, if that's relevant i have a bad feeling.
Oct 4, 2019 1:50 PM

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Got goosebumps reading this chapter.Absolutely fantastic, nothing more to say.
Νεχ ποσσυμ τεχυμ ωιωερε, νεχ σινε τε.
Oct 4, 2019 1:54 PM
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Great Chapter once again, I don't know how Isayama keeps outdoing himself every damn chapter.

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I wonder if Eren meant he wanted to destroy the actual entire world or just the paths dimension. Having in count what seems to be Eren's motivations, the paths option makes more sense but there were moments in the story that could be a foreshadow to him wanting to really end their whole world.


I was wondering that too If he meant path dimension or real entire world.
And I don't agree with his plan to destroy the entire world if that's what he actually plans to do.

Also why you think should it matter if colossal titan's are facing inwards or outwards if eren gains absolute control over them it won't matter he can order them the way he wants.
Oct 4, 2019 1:55 PM

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Isayama is a Goddamn genius!
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Oct 4, 2019 1:56 PM
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What a time to be alive!!
Oct 4, 2019 2:14 PM

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Ymir is DONE taking orders from the royal family! Let's go!!
Oct 4, 2019 2:26 PM

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Also why you think should it matter if colossal titan's are facing inwards or outwards if eren gains absolute control over them it won't matter he can order them the way he wants.


Because there must be a reason for it knowing isayama's writting style.
At first we were told the colossal titans were made to protect Paradis from outsiders(Marley) but if they were created with external use in mind then they would be facing in the other direction instead, the ocean's.
Of course it could also mean nothing and be irrelevant like how i pointed out before, but it still bugs me.
Oct 4, 2019 2:30 PM

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It was such an emotional chapter. Like really, I had to look away from some pages just to take it in.
Eren's words to Ymir were... well, they left a very positive impression on me.
Oct 4, 2019 2:33 PM
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That was an EPIC chapter!!! It was so good idek what to say!!! I didn't think we will get to see the rumbling so soon.
Can't wait for the next chapter.

Also it seems like Ymir is the most tragic character in the entire manga. It was so emotional 😭😭 I thought Eren became a monster but he's such a good boy 😭😭😭
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I just read chapter 121 yesterday and I must say I was kind disappointed by all was going on but now...I don’t know how to explain it but this chapter just make me so happy for no apparent reason and so hyped for the next chapter and all those coming after that.
One month seems just so long tho...
Oct 4, 2019 3:02 PM

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Everyone is terrible eldians ancestors are scums and Marley are scums. Ymir is treated like dirt and treats like garbage. Poor girl I feel really sad sad for her :( :(.

Go Eren and Ymir destroy the world. I support Eren and Ymir. I am on Eren and Ymir side.

Good riddance shithead Zeke fail.

I love the fact Eren hug Ymir. Poor girl deserve it.

I say it again. I support Eren and Ymir goals completely.

This best chapter I read and I give SNK 20 out of 10

My favourite manga/anime series of all time. Of all anime and manga I watch and read.
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Oct 4, 2019 3:15 PM

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Holy fucking shit!! this chapter was soo good The best chapter .Go Eren and Ymir, this reveal was just insane, i love this series .
Oct 4, 2019 3:26 PM
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Ymir is DONE taking orders from the royal family! Let's go!!


That was such a great finale to this chapter. I was really hoping for Eren to get through to her after he's been through
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Oct 4, 2019 3:49 PM

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Let's get ready to rumble.
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Let's get ready to rumbleee

Ymir's past was awful. I think that scene where Maria, Rose and Sina are eating Ymir may have surpassed Mike's death as the most disturbing scene in the manga. That king was a piece of shit and I wish he had a gruesome death.

I'm glad Eren treated her like a human being and saved her, or rather gave her the choice to do what she wants, freely. During the end of 121, people thought he was gonna attack her, but Eren's character arc has been about freedom from oppression because we're all born into this world, so it makes sense he'd want to help her. Also the 'to you, 2000 years from now was finally explained and has now come in full circle!!

The thing with the rumbling is: if it happens, Eldians and Ymir will be free, but many innocents will die. If the rumbling doesn't happen, Ymir will remain a slave, Eldians will still be hated by the world and they will be killed for the sins of their ancestors. No matter the scenario, there will be dark, unjust consequences.

FIngers crossed Mikasa, Armin, Jean and the others live, as well as Falco, Gabi, Reiner... basically everyone besides Floch LOL although this would be wishful thinking on my part :/
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The king had his daughters eat Ymir so that they would inherit her powers Eldia is the evil empire in this story


Eldia isnt an evil kingdom tho that is the point they had terrible people lead them before like that garbage human being king the Reis lines are the absolute villains of the story because they forced Ymir do whatever they wanted including attacking others.

Titans are victims and lower class people are victims in the story because they follow terrible people doesnt make them evil Armin, Miksa, etc arent evil they just want to live freely from the sins of the past.
Oct 4, 2019 4:37 PM

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The Third Impact has begun!!!

I can hear komm susser tod in the final page with the titan walking.
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Oct 4, 2019 4:49 PM

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
KINOOOOO
Eren wins, Rumbling happening.

Backstory of Ymir was pretty meh and generic. Evil ruler who has no compassion. I mean she is the mother of his daughters, he should have liked her a bit better. But its ok, I dont care. Everyone is irrelevant except for Eren.
And seems like theres no Devil.

"You have been waiting all this time... Since 2000 years ago... for someone"
Very beautiful moment, I literally cried with such powerful and beautiful moment
Poor Ymir had been suffering in silence for so long.

Isayama made the perfect ending or at least the perfect final conclusion for Eren.
6 years ago when I first came in contact with shingeki no kyojin I never thought that he would become my favorite character in any kind of medium. He simply did it.
Oct 4, 2019 5:32 PM

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Yooooooo, Isayama u foreshadowing genius son of a bitch. Fantastic chapter.
Oct 4, 2019 5:49 PM

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i just want to say


H O L Y S H I T


LETS RUMBLEEEEEE!!!!!!
Oct 4, 2019 5:59 PM

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Ymir's backstory was kinda meh. That king was cartoonishly evil and with no remorse what so ever even for the mother of his children yet she jumped for him anyway, whatever tbh.

I still don't know what Eren is gonna do with all that power he gained in the end, is he seriously gonna destroy the world for real? I don't see how that give him "true freedom"
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God, what an amazing chapter. Holy shit, the art this time around was actually insane, and so were all the contents. Fucking poor Ymir man... I'm quite surprised we're finally getting to learn about the history of the Eldians, but I never would've guessed Ymir was only just a slave girl that was tormented all her life and even after death. To think that the memories sent to Eren in chapter 1 had came from her as a plea for help after walking the PATHS for thousands of years, christ. It's so interesting to see that some of the Marleyan propaganda actually turned out to be true, the waters are muddy on both sides completely now. After seeing everything she had to go through, I kind of don't blame Eren for having such a view of the world anymore. Also to think this was fucking foreshadowed heavily all the way back in season 2's ED, lmao.

Can't wait to see how many people go "hurr asspull asspull ASSPULL ~" because of the spine-like creature under the tree giving Ymir her power to shift as a titan. Please, don't be retarded and remember that this series isn't finished yet, we're bound to get a full explanation before the end.

RUMBLING TIME MOTHERFUCKERS
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