Boku no Hero Academia Chapter 235 Discussion

Florent3571 said:
I can see why people are dissapointed with Shigaraki only willing to destroy everything

deg said:


yep its just some basic emo/edgy/teenage angst ideology of just wanting to destory and nothing more so thats why im disappointed too and i agree with Redestro that destruction without purpose for a better future is a shitty belief

although this chapter said Shigaraki wanted to become a hero so that maybe recovered by talk therapy/jutsu of Deku and the gang later on

Slimcoder said:
So essentially Shigaraki was raised by Yoshikage Kira & he snapped because....... he was raised by motherfucking Yoshikage Kira. XD

GodLikesMudkips said:
that dog is dead

This chapter raised a few questions though, can quirks activate through a traumatic event? I mean Shigaraki gets hit by his Dad, says he wants to kill everyone and then inevitably activates his quirk. I guess it's similar to how Deku activated Black Whip, but that was mainly from One For All. I guess Hirokoshi can just make up anything to do with quirks considering little is known about them to begin with.

Anyway this was a good chapter, it seems like nearly all the Dad's in this series are assholes. Deku's dad is never around, Shoto's abuses him and Shigaraki's is also abusive. I'm really liking this arc, it's definitely one of my favourites. It's funny how Shigaraki's Dad was so hellbent on making sure Shigaraki didn't become a hero, and well he succeeded.

Yautja said:
For all the great villains in BnHA, Tomura is awful. Too edgy and too generic in his motivations. And by comparison he isn't particularly well done. He is probably the biggest flaw in this series, and this is definitely the worst arc. Honestly, Destro is already far more interesting than him.

Nobody5464 said:


How is re Destro more interesting? He’s the least developed villian in the entire story. Remember the armies ideology is not his it’s the original destro’s. He has nothing to actually contribute all he’s done is aggressively attach himself to his ancestors ideology and base his entire personality and life off it. He never came up with anything for himself and his entire being is based on not being him but trying to be Destro.

Yautja said:


What I said isn't a testament to Destro's quality or development, but Tomura's failings.

Destro's motivations and back story has legs under him instead of the ever generic "abused poor kid". At least Destro actually built something, has an ideology and solid and not ridiculously overdone background. Putting aside how well he's executing his ideology and goals, there is a stark contrast between his father and him now and he still has far more room to grow than Tomura who shows ZERO sign of becoming anything other than an edgy teen who wants to burn everything down. Tomura is like a poor man's anime fanfic of the Dark Knight's Joker.

Thankfully Tomura's got his grandmother to add a bit more history and depth there but at the end of the day, and as far as this trope goes, it's well done, but even with his background, he's a boring character with a ridiculous overdone background. And he'd have to be done a lot better for me to personally like him. While I can see the room to become a good character and viillain, so far he's made exactly zero progress in that direction.

If that's your view of Destro, your view of Tomura should be far harsher.

Nobody5464 said:


Except your dismissing everything about Tomura as immediately terrible, lame, or wrong for no real reason and hand waving all of Redestro’s faults for no reason. Honestly I think you just decided a long time ago you wouldn’t like Tomura and are determined to follow through on that.

His background isn’t overdone it’s incredibly down to earth. He didn’t have some crazy galactic tragedy he had a very real abusive household leading to pent up hatred ready to be directed by all for one. And theirs no distinction between Destro and Redestro because we know literally nothing about Destro besides what we’ve learned from Redestro copying him exactly theirs literally no difference between them except that we know Redestro is probably a pale imitation.

Yautja said:


Considering I didn't do any of that and you're propping an image of me, and you're clearly looking for an argument instead of clarification, I'm going to end this here. Irony thy name is Nobody.

Stark700 said:
THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Ah yes, the past of Tenko aka Tomura Shigaraki. The more I see his past, the more depressed I feel.

No wonder he has so much hate.

dicecop said:
Forgot that Heroaca had a chapter today. That's how irrelevant the series is becoming for me lol

Yautja said:
For all the great villains in BnHA, Tomura is awful. Too edgy and too generic in his motivations. And by comparison he isn't particularly well done. He is probably the biggest flaw in this series, and this is definitely the worst arc. Honestly, Destro is already far more interesting than him.

Stripes said:


The term "edgy" works for teenage kids who hate the world for pretty superficial causes. I think a boy who accidentally killed his family because the societal structure crashed down on his wants to be heroic doesn't evolve in to "edge".

I admit Shigraki is not my favorite of the villains. I think Twice and Toga have much more compelling stories but theres are just as mundane and simple as Shigiraki's. Its more of the fact that Shigiraki has been consumed by becoming a predecessor and only following the lead. I think my only real complaint is he has no personality or wants other then to topple down the hero system, we can't connect with him past his childhood because he has such closed off feelings.

Aside from that Destro is interesting in a facet of his cause and power, how he implements his plans into the series world from the outset of the chapter he's introduced in no less. But he's older and more mature, I expect Shigiraki to grow into a villian and get his own understanding of what it means, just like Deku had to learn his own value in being a hero which the parallels between them are damn obvious and pretty intricate.

I get if you're reading this casually and don't see it but to be so negative is shrug worthy.

lunarxlunar said:
Shiggy probably has the same problem of his father. The fact that the parent treats them unfairly (from their own perspective) but they also understand the parent loves them wholeheartedly just hurts.

For shiggy, it's even the entire family. They were so kind but they also stood there and did nothing when Shiggy was abused. Not to mention letting the father have that dumb rule for such a long time.

He clearly hates himself for killing the entire family and doesn't know what to do to release his guilt. So he extends his anger towards the others. When asking "why are they laughing like idiots?", he treated this hero society as a joke. This the consequence of a combination of All Might not being able to save him while getting all the spotlight as the surrogate son of his grandma, and the destructive nature of his quirk.

If he can't be a hero and can't erase his trauma, no one should be a hero and be living safely.