Why are cartoon characters, generally, extremely ugly where as anime characters are in the pinnacle of beauty?
| USA when making Big Mouth: Lets make the characters so ugly you can't even finish the show! Japan when making Anime: Lets make the characters so attractive our fans will still wanna bang Astolfo after finding he has a pepe! |
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| Honestly, I think even the derpiest of anime character designs look far better than the shit I see in most Western animated tv shows. With that being said, I just think western cartoon shows simply have a different view of what constitutes good character designs. |
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Tarotsu said: Why do people make broad generalizations? In a backwards way, why don't you compare Crayon Shin-chan to something like Justice League in terms of attractive characters? I give American animation more credit for having more broad aesthetics, outside of the Calarts/Flash style that's popular these days. yes it's a broad generalisation. I'm just talking about their style and what I can remember from when I used to watch Cartoon Network. There's some decently animated cartoon shows nowadays The art style used by the Japanese thought is just so unbeatable in my opinion, their characters can look downright beautiful. |
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Ryuseishun said: Honestly, I think even the derpiest of anime character designs look far better than the shit I see in most Western animated tv shows. With that being said, I just think western cartoon shows simply have a different view of what constitutes good character designs. But Dragonball is literally the most popular anime even in the west it beats all their cartoons. Maybe we should learn from it :P |
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gSol said: Ryuseishun said: Honestly, I think even the derpiest of anime character designs look far better than the shit I see in most Western animated tv shows. With that being said, I just think western cartoon shows simply have a different view of what constitutes good character designs. But Dragonball is literally the most popular anime even in the west it beats all their cartoons. Maybe we should learn from it :P Well apparently the guys in charge of the cartoon shows didn’t learn any shit xD |
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| Because the whole point of western cartoons is to look as over the top and cartoony as possible. They aren't supposed to be attractive or realistic looking for the most part. Also of you can't finish a western cartoon because of the character designs that sounds more like a personal problem to me. |
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| Most cartoons are made for children and if they're not they're comedy based anyway. It's just easier to drive home the comedy when the characters look exaggerated then with most typical anime looks. And anime knows this because they tend to exaggerate the artstyle too when they have comedy moments or when they are comedy based. Same with kid shows. I mean compare this To this |
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| The focus of some cartoons isnt about making visually appealing characters. Stuff like ATLA (but ATLA is anime ay lmao rofl yes yes), Steven Universe, Teen Titans, Ben 10 (everyone up to Alien Force. Everything after that was a mistake) and Over the Garden Wall actually had visually appealing characters because the focus of the shows was the characters. Stuff like Chicken and Cow, The Simpsons or Adventure Time were more focused in making gags or telling a story. Tbh a ton of cartoon had visually appealing character designs and art... (Generator Rex, Simbionic Titan, Clone Wars, all the Marvel cartoon and movies are gorgeous specially the Batman ones) "Mature" cartoons tend to make them as ugly as possible for some unknown reason. Also the budget (or the exploiting of several underpaid animators) for anime and the ammount of work that's put into them cant be compared to western animation. Mmm tbh you can pretty much disregard the thing about budget since japanese animators are being killed to make anime while not being payed enough to even rent an apartment. My final point would be: There are a lot of pretty cartoons. |
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| Why are you making such a broad generalizations? 1. You need to watch more non-Japanese cartoons if you think nobody besides Japan can create beautiful animation. BIG MOUTH is NOT the American standard. 2. Yet At the same time, you need to watch more anime if you think ALL anime has beautiful animation, because I've seen some terrible animation. |
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Setsuei said: Because the whole point of western cartoons is to look as over the top and cartoony as possible. They aren't supposed to be attractive or realistic looking for the most part. Also of you can't finish a western cartoon because of the character designs that sounds more like a personal problem to me. Believe me. Just Google big mouth, the characters are disgusting makes you want to throw up. especially considering the show is about puberty so plenty of uncensored pepes and weird shit. I gave up after two or three. The content probably didn't help but I heavily doubt this is a personal problem for example I can watch that new show amazing world of gumball which often features anime animators from Japan during the fight scenes, not surprised there. I think a major part is that western media is never inspired by manga, maybe comics, but manga is drawn so beautiful and the characters tend to be too. As such for an anime you just gotta make them look better. When making a cartoon from scratch the west just don't give a fuck see: Big Mouth, Rick and Morty plus even the classics like Ed ed n eddy or codes name kids next door all ugly ass characters imo Art definitely can make a show unwatchable don't like it's crazy and they have a problem with turning off a show when the character design is god awful, that my friend is a problem with the show not a personal problem at all. |
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holysauron said: Most cartoons are made for children and if they're not they're comedy based anyway. It's just easier to drive home the comedy when the characters look exaggerated then with most typical anime looks. And anime knows this because they tend to exaggerate the artstyle too when they have comedy moments or when they are comedy based. Same with kid shows. I mean compare this To this Even the characters in the second pic look hella ugly. Even anime characters on children shows look cute and adorable in anime. Phineas and Ferb characters adorable? Codes name kids next door perhaps? Yeah hard no from me. |
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deg said: because anime is for all ages while cartoons are intended for kids, ye i know this argument is weak but that is all on top of my head right now Still doesn't explain why you wouldn't draw your characters in an attractive way? They're just goofy and ugly. All children anime shows still feature cute well drawn characters that aren't oddly shaped or inhuman |
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deg said: gSol said: Still doesn't explain why you wouldn't draw your characters in an attractive way? They're just goofy and ugly. All children anime shows still feature cute well drawn characters that aren't oddly shaped or inhuman Doraemon, Chibi Maruko-chan, Sazae-san are like one of the most popular TV anime in japan and look at their character designs and this 3 anime alone are so far above when it comes to TV ratings alone compared to every anime out there in japan It literally only takes comparing Google searches of Doraemon and Code name kids next door to see how much more charming the characters are in anime shows. I'd definitely not say their characters are ugly, not the most attractivet but far from bad work and considering its a kid show |
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gSol said: Setsuei said: Because the whole point of western cartoons is to look as over the top and cartoony as possible. They aren't supposed to be attractive or realistic looking for the most part. Also of you can't finish a western cartoon because of the character designs that sounds more like a personal problem to me. Believe me. Just Google big mouth, the characters are disgusting makes you want to throw up. especially considering the show is about puberty so plenty of uncensored pepes and weird shit. I gave up after two or three. The content probably didn't help but I heavily doubt this is a personal problem for example I can watch that new show amazing world of gumball which often features anime animators from Japan during the fight scenes, not surprised there. I think a major part is that western media is never inspired by manga, maybe comics, but manga is drawn so beautiful and the characters tend to be too. As such for an anime you just gotta make them look better. When making a cartoon from scratch the west just don't give a fuck see: Big Mouth, Rick and Morty plus even the classics like Ed ed n eddy or codes name kids next door all ugly ass characters imo Art definitely can make a show unwatchable don't like it's crazy and they have a problem with turning off a show when the character design is god awful, that my friend is a problem with the show not a personal problem at all. Again I say what you said is the whole point of western cartoons. They are supposed to look straight up weird and unattractive given the nature of these shows. The designs of shows like Rick and Morty,South Park and so on fit the tone shows perfectly fine,and anime like Panty & Stocking have used similar art styles to western shows because again it fits the overall feel of the show. Personally I'd rather not watch a western comedy like Rick and Morty in a more anime-ish art style just like I would never want to see something like Steins;Gate in a style similar to The Simpsons. |
| I mean, I can kind of see the point you're tying to make, OP, but Jessica Rabbit exists so that's a no from me I'm afraid. |
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| Regarding kids cartoons I struggle to find 2d animated ones and even if I do they have that cheap TV quality. Majority shifted to CGI. Usually movies have good character design Examples: It was also made to a TV series fortunately  @Claptrap A Spanish movie titled Psychonauts, the Forgotten Children, based on one of the directors picture book. One of the darkest movies I've seen recently. For older audiences but it has that disturbing character design not commonly seen in kids animation nowadays  Also no anime has animated a German shepherd as well as this  Also rare, there are adult cartoons matching or surpassing anime in sex and violence, even touching topics like child exploitation. Eg the 2006 danish movie Princesse Nsfw |
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Setsuei said: gSol said: Believe me. Just Google big mouth, the characters are disgusting makes you want to throw up. especially considering the show is about puberty so plenty of uncensored pepes and weird shit. I gave up after two or three. The content probably didn't help but I heavily doubt this is a personal problem for example I can watch that new show amazing world of gumball which often features anime animators from Japan during the fight scenes, not surprised there. I think a major part is that western media is never inspired by manga, maybe comics, but manga is drawn so beautiful and the characters tend to be too. As such for an anime you just gotta make them look better. When making a cartoon from scratch the west just don't give a fuck see: Big Mouth, Rick and Morty plus even the classics like Ed ed n eddy or codes name kids next door all ugly ass characters imo Art definitely can make a show unwatchable don't like it's crazy and they have a problem with turning off a show when the character design is god awful, that my friend is a problem with the show not a personal problem at all. Again I say what you said is the whole point of western cartoons. They are supposed to look straight up weird and unattractive given the nature of these shows. The designs of shows like Rick and Morty,South Park and so on fit the tone shows perfectly fine,and anime like Panty & Stocking have used similar art styles to western shows because again it fits the overall feel of the show. Personally I'd rather not watch a western comedy like Rick and Morty in a more anime-ish art style just like I would never want to see something like Steins;Gate in a style similar to The Simpsons. Rick and Morty is an example of a decently animated Cartooon and is probably an exception. That's the problem though, good looking characters are the 'exception'. With that said I'd never say cartoon characters are beautiful. It just confuses me that no matter what the theme is Japan tends to have the same anime-ish style with very nice looking characters, sometimes realistic (dark, greyish Death Note comes to mind) or sometimes completely fantasy (lots of colours and contrast). It sucks because whenever you tell anyone irl you watch anime you always get "Chinese cartoons?" like no lmao |
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| I think it's only the last 10-15 years when western cartoons really started to break conventions and experiment more, maybe to compete with the growing popularity of anime. Still it's too generalized to say this. Especially hystorically. That experimentation means it's a lot harder to randomly find two cartoons with the same basic visuals. Avatar and The Boondocks are has strongly anime inspired visuals, Archer has a really comic like style while The Simpsons are also wery much its onw thing. While 90% of anime if broken down to it's basics look the same nowdays. Also, western cartoons have a different approach to animation. Part of is basically fluidity with high framerate compated to anime. That makes it much slower and more expensive to work with highly detalied designs. But if they have the time and the budget, they blow the majority of anime out of the water. deg said: because anime is for all ages while cartoons are intended for kids, ye i know this argument is weak but that is all on top of my head right now Not that it's weak, rahter plain wrong. |
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| Cartoon characters are meant to look in a funny way while anime has a wide variety to offer. Ugly characters go well with fun to watch shows for kids while aesthetic characters go well with serious themes. |
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gSol said: Setsuei said: Again I say what you said is the whole point of western cartoons. They are supposed to look straight up weird and unattractive given the nature of these shows. The designs of shows like Rick and Morty,South Park and so on fit the tone shows perfectly fine,and anime like Panty & Stocking have used similar art styles to western shows because again it fits the overall feel of the show. Personally I'd rather not watch a western comedy like Rick and Morty in a more anime-ish art style just like I would never want to see something like Steins;Gate in a style similar to The Simpsons. Rick and Morty is an example of a decently animated Cartooon and is probably an exception. With that said I'd never say their characters are beautiful. It just confuses me that no matter what the theme is Japan tends to have the same anime-ish style with very nice looking characters, sometimes realistic (dark, greyish Death Note comes to mind) or sometimes completely fantasy (lots of colours and contrast). It sucks because whenever you tell anyone irl you watch anime you always get "Chinese cartoons?" like no lmao Well yeah, I'll never claim cartoon characters are beautiful, but that's one of the reasons I like them. Also, agreed, the reaction some people still have to anime is why I generally don't bring it up in conversation. |
gSol said: holysauron said: Most cartoons are made for children and if they're not they're comedy based anyway. It's just easier to drive home the comedy when the characters look exaggerated then with most typical anime looks. And anime knows this because they tend to exaggerate the artstyle too when they have comedy moments or when they are comedy based. Same with kid shows. I mean compare this To this Even the characters in the second pic look hella ugly. Even anime characters on children shows look cute and adorable in anime. Phineas and Ferb characters adorable? Codes name kids next door perhaps? Yeah hard no from me. If you honestly think that first picture looks better then the second picture then your biases and ideologies have clouded your mind to the point where no one can convince you other wise. You've convinced yourself that if its from Japan it's more cultured and refined then any of the hard working artistic animators from the United States could ever come up with. As one of the people here stated earlier, not everything is a picasso classic like some of the half drawn one piece side characters I have had the displeasure to see. Another thing, if "bad" animation prevents you from taking in an experience of a show then I hope your a super model because your going to be missing out a lot in life if otherwise. |
gSol said: holysauron said: Most cartoons are made for children and if they're not they're comedy based anyway. It's just easier to drive home the comedy when the characters look exaggerated then with most typical anime looks. And anime knows this because they tend to exaggerate the artstyle too when they have comedy moments or when they are comedy based. Same with kid shows. I mean compare this To this Even the characters in the second pic look hella ugly. Even anime characters on children shows look cute and adorable in anime. Phineas and Ferb characters adorable? Codes name kids next door perhaps? Yeah hard no from me. That's just an opinion. My point was that kid shows and comedies tend to have exaggerated artstyles because it's just easier to do comedy that way, and since cartoons are mostly that as opposed to anime... Btw, the Shin Chan image I posted in my previous post looks worse to me than the Codename: KND image. |
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Maurice_5 said: I mean, I can kind of see the point you're tying to make, OP, but Jessica Rabbit exists so that's a no from me I'm afraid. There's exceptions to every rule ;) Join the dark side |
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Setsuei said: gSol said: Rick and Morty is an example of a decently animated Cartooon and is probably an exception. With that said I'd never say their characters are beautiful. It just confuses me that no matter what the theme is Japan tends to have the same anime-ish style with very nice looking characters, sometimes realistic (dark, greyish Death Note comes to mind) or sometimes completely fantasy (lots of colours and contrast). It sucks because whenever you tell anyone irl you watch anime you always get "Chinese cartoons?" like no lmao Well yeah, I'll never claim cartoon characters are beautiful, but that's one of the reasons I like them. Also, agreed, the reaction some people still have to anime is why I generally don't bring it up in conversation. I bring it up or will defend it if it comes up, it might be slightly embarassing but hey tons of celebs love anime I have no problem admitting I adore it. I even got some of my super anti anime friends to watch a few episodes of Death Note and Attack on Titan and he was quite interested asking lots of questions. I feel like not enough people give it a chance. Especially subs Vs dubs people can't deal with having to read haha Now I prefer subs tho the voice acting (probably because I can't understand Japanese) just sounds better |
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| I think you need to understand exceptions. 99% of anime characters look good 99% of western cartoon characters are wacky and weird. Just because one show is more weird and wacky than one of the west's ex biggest cartoon shows doesn't prove much |
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TruePathofPein said: gSol said: Even the characters in the second pic look hella ugly. Even anime characters on children shows look cute and adorable in anime. Phineas and Ferb characters adorable? Codes name kids next door perhaps? Yeah hard no from me. If you honestly think that first picture looks better then the second picture then your biases and ideologies have clouded your mind to the point where no one can convince you other wise. You've convinced yourself that if its from Japan it's more cultured and refined then any of the hard working artistic animators from the United States could ever come up with. As one of the people here stated earlier, not everything is a picasso classic like some of the half drawn one piece side characters I have had the displeasure to see. Another thing, if "bad" animation prevents you from taking in an experience of a show then I hope your a super model because your going to be missing out a lot in life if otherwise. So because one or even a few anime show's looks worse than one of the former biggest Cartoon shows my point is invalid? Exceptions occur everywhere my friend. 99% of anime features well drawn beautiful characters, 99% of cartoons seem to go for the weird wacky ugly look |
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gSol said: Setsuei said: Well yeah, I'll never claim cartoon characters are beautiful, but that's one of the reasons I like them. Also, agreed, the reaction some people still have to anime is why I generally don't bring it up in conversation. I bring it up or will defend it if it comes up, it might be slightly embarassing but hey tons of celebs love anime I have no problem admitting I adore it. I even got some of my super anti anime friends to watch a few episodes of Death Note and Attack on Titan and he was quite interested asking lots of questions. I feel like not enough people give it a chance. Especially subs Vs dubs people can't deal with having to read haha Now I prefer subs tho the voice acting (probably because I can't understand Japanese) just sounds better I find I'm generally ok with dubs if the main setting takes place outside of Japan,but most of the time I'll usually stick to subs. |
gSol said: TruePathofPein said: If you honestly think that first picture looks better then the second picture then your biases and ideologies have clouded your mind to the point where no one can convince you other wise. You've convinced yourself that if its from Japan it's more cultured and refined then any of the hard working artistic animators from the United States could ever come up with. As one of the people here stated earlier, not everything is a picasso classic like some of the half drawn one piece side characters I have had the displeasure to see. Another thing, if "bad" animation prevents you from taking in an experience of a show then I hope your a super model because your going to be missing out a lot in life if otherwise. So because one or even a few anime show's looks worse than one of the former biggest Cartoon shows my point is invalid? Exceptions occur everywhere my friend. 99% of anime features well drawn beautiful characters, 99% of cartoons seem to go for the weird wacky ugly look My point was to only dilute your arguement to which I think I did well. I don't like the definitives you base your arguement upon. However, if I were to entertain your pondering i would summise that in one region, say Japan, the animations that became popular were more human like and realistic to a human form and because of the success, other animators copied this style mainstreaming it in Japan. While in the United States character designs were more wonky and cartoonish because they were indeed used to drive a joke. caricatures were popular as political images in the United States. You might of seen some as related to wars and such. Hopefully it didn't scar your eyes but to me, some were well done. That may be where the differences in lie and i won't go down listening every instance in where your wrong. In fact you might be right majority of the time and yet, your still wrong because your assessment is that this is a truth rather then your own personal taste. |
| Because people are counting on anime fans to buy pillows to jack off on. More seriously, I think this can be an issue for anime because in a lot of cases shows have a generic uninspiring design that doesn't distinguish them from the pack. I don't particularly think eastern animation design or western animation design is better though. There are benefits and deficits to both |
TruePathofPein said: gSol said: So because one or even a few anime show's looks worse than one of the former biggest Cartoon shows my point is invalid? Exceptions occur everywhere my friend. 99% of anime features well drawn beautiful characters, 99% of cartoons seem to go for the weird wacky ugly look My point was to only dilute your arguement to which I think I did well. I don't like the definitives you base your arguement upon. However, if I were to entertain your pondering i would summise that in one region, say Japan, the animations that became popular were more human like and realistic to a human form and because of the success, other animators copied this style mainstreaming it in Japan. While in the United States character designs were more wonky and cartoonish because they were indeed used to drive a joke. caricatures were popular as political images in the United States. You might of seen some as related to wars and such. Hopefully it didn't scar your eyes but to me, some were well done. That may be where the differences in lie and i won't go down listening every instance in where your wrong. In fact you might be right majority of the time and yet, your still wrong because your assessment is that this is a truth rather then your own personal taste. My opinion is the Japanese draw attractive characters and the west tend to draw goofy ugly ones, it's not an opinion yes there are exceptions. You can either agree or disagree which you have agreed with. I think all dogs are great but I bet you there are some evil dogs out there, exceptions like this war propaganda are bound to exist. I'm not saying all west animation is bad, it's just not great and leagues behind Japanese animation in my opinion which you yourself agreed with. I doubt anyone has the personal taste to be like o yea dude the phineas and Ferb were so well drawn man the Japanese are inferior in animation design |
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Claptrap said: Because people are counting on anime fans to buy pillows to jack off on. More seriously, I think this can be an issue for anime because in a lot of cases shows have a generic uninspiring design that doesn't distinguish them from the pack. I don't particularly think eastern animation design or western animation design is better though. There are benefits and deficits to both Heh-heh, who would hump an anime pillow? Am I right guys? Totally not me. Right heh? :| |
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| @petran79 What is the second example? I recognize the first and third, but the second looks interesting and I don't recognize it @gSol It's a serious point. A large part of anime is fanservice, and that's my point. Which can make the character designs more boring, because they are afraid to be ugly in any respect. Characters being a bit ugly is more interesting than a range of generic 'beautiful' people. |
gSol said: TruePathofPein said: My point was to only dilute your arguement to which I think I did well. I don't like the definitives you base your arguement upon. However, if I were to entertain your pondering i would summise that in one region, say Japan, the animations that became popular were more human like and realistic to a human form and because of the success, other animators copied this style mainstreaming it in Japan. While in the United States character designs were more wonky and cartoonish because they were indeed used to drive a joke. caricatures were popular as political images in the United States. You might of seen some as related to wars and such. Hopefully it didn't scar your eyes but to me, some were well done. That may be where the differences in lie and i won't go down listening every instance in where your wrong. In fact you might be right majority of the time and yet, your still wrong because your assessment is that this is a truth rather then your own personal taste. My opinion is the Japanese draw attractive characters and the west tend to draw goofy ugly ones, it's not an opinion yes there are exceptions. You can either agree or disagree which you have agreed with. I think all dogs are great but I bet you there are some evil dogs out there, exceptions like this war propaganda are bound to exist. I'm not saying all west animation is bad, it's just not great and leagues behind Japanese animation in my opinion which you yourself agreed with. I doubt anyone has the personal taste to be like o yea dude the phineas and Ferb were so well drawn man the Japanese are inferior in animation design I never actually agreed with you I just said its plausible. I happen to like some american animations like Danny Phantom, Sponge Bob, and one of my favorites being Tom & Jerry. You say in one sentence it's not an opinion and in the next you say you can agree or disagree lol That's what makes it a opinion. You've solidifed the fact your more fond of the Japanese artistry fair enough but when you go on saying their "leagues" in front of the any other animator your just fooling yourself. Ever seen Archer? I have a sneaky suspicion you could name hundreds of animes but maybe 2-3 american cartoons and maybe that is the true problem. Maybe your just uncultured? |
gSol said: There's exceptions to every rule ;) Join the dark side You're saying that, but then you've got like three posts in a row where people have provided great counterexamples and you're just brushing it all off with "But it's all exceptions!" At some point you gotta consider if maybe you're just wrong. And to help that process along here's some other western shows that I'd consider to have nice-looking character designs: The entire DCAU (B:TAS, Justice League, etc.) For that matter, Young Justice as well W.I.T.C.H. Spectacular Spider-Man X-Men Evolution Like, all the Hanna-Barbera old-school stuff Kim Possible All just off the top of my head. And, of course, there's all the Disney films - just last night I rewatched Atlantis: The Lost Empire and was blown away by how well the character animations held up. So, yeah. Maybe you're just plain wrong - or, more generously, you're just so used to the anime art style that you can't see outside it anymore. Either way, I don't think your sweeping generalisations are reasonable to make. |
TruePathofPein said: gSol said: My opinion is the Japanese draw attractive characters and the west tend to draw goofy ugly ones, it's not an opinion yes there are exceptions. You can either agree or disagree which you have agreed with. I think all dogs are great but I bet you there are some evil dogs out there, exceptions like this war propaganda are bound to exist. I'm not saying all west animation is bad, it's just not great and leagues behind Japanese animation in my opinion which you yourself agreed with. I doubt anyone has the personal taste to be like o yea dude the phineas and Ferb were so well drawn man the Japanese are inferior in animation design I never actually agreed with you I just said its plausible. I happen to like some american animations like Danny Phantom, Sponge Bob, and one of my favorites being Tom & Jerry. You say in one sentence it's not an opinion and in the next you say you can agree or disagree lol That's what makes it a opinion. You've solidifed the fact your more fond of the Japanese artistry fair enough but when you go on saying their "leagues" in front of the any other animator your just fooling yourself. Ever seen Archer? I have a sneaky suspicion you could name hundreds of animes but maybe 2-3 american cartoons and maybe that is the true problem. Maybe your just uncultured? yes I've seen archer once again I was never really attracted to the art style and the characters (the red hair girl forgot her name) not cute at all really. Call it bias all you want but dude I only really got into anime this year because of a friend's death and I need an escape from reality. Before 2019 I had watched 3-4 of the most casual anime you can think of, DBZ, Death Note, Attack on Titan and that's about it. |
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gSol said: I'm sorry for your loss. You know scrolling through your list i saw kono suba and remembered megumim is waifu so maybe your on to something. I also remember this girl I had a crush on who wanted to be a manga artist and she was always drawing, taking art classes and learning special skills to perfect her craft. She was half Japanese. Perhaps they take it more seriously might be the most sincere answer you get. (btw if your looking for an anime suggestion you can't go wrong with naruto unless your an anti big 3 in which i highly suggest Katekyo Hitman Reborn).TruePathofPein said: I never actually agreed with you I just said its plausible. I happen to like some american animations like Danny Phantom, Sponge Bob, and one of my favorites being Tom & Jerry. You say in one sentence it's not an opinion and in the next you say you can agree or disagree lol That's what makes it a opinion. You've solidifed the fact your more fond of the Japanese artistry fair enough but when you go on saying their "leagues" in front of the any other animator your just fooling yourself. Ever seen Archer? I have a sneaky suspicion you could name hundreds of animes but maybe 2-3 american cartoons and maybe that is the true problem. Maybe your just uncultured? yes I've seen archer once again I was never really attracted to the art style and the characters (the red hair girl forgot her name) not cute at all really. Call it bias all you want but dude I only really got into anime this year because of a friend's death and I need an escape from reality. Before 2019 I had watched 3-4 of the most casual anime you can think of, DBZ, Death Note, Attack on Titan and that's about it. |
| Why would you use Big Mouth as an example? That show made the characters look ugly on purpose, it's not a series that's supposed to be aesthetically pleasing with the theme of the show, whereas exaggerated cuteness is something anime goes really hard into. I mean, look at what modern cartoons are trying to do compared to what anime is doing. Despite the fact that they're both animation, they're still different mediums. Cartoons are almost never attempting to make you fall in love with some beautiful damsel, while anime can't help but make every character a waifu. It's not that cartoons are bad in that regard, just that they're different |
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TruePathofPein said: gSol said: I'm sorry for your loss. You know scrolling through your list i saw kono suba and remembered megumim is waifu so maybe your on to something. I also remember this girl I had a crush on who wanted to be a manga artist and she was always drawing, taking art classes and learning special skills to perfect her craft. She was half Japanese. Perhaps they take it more seriously might be the most sincere answer you get. (btw if your looking for an anime suggestion you can't go wrong with naruto unless your an anti big 3 in which i highly suggest Katekyo Hitman Reborn).yes I've seen archer once again I was never really attracted to the art style and the characters (the red hair girl forgot her name) not cute at all really. Call it bias all you want but dude I only really got into anime this year because of a friend's death and I need an escape from reality. Before 2019 I had watched 3-4 of the most casual anime you can think of, DBZ, Death Note, Attack on Titan and that's about it. Thank you for the suggestion mate. Only reason I've put Naruto and One Piece off is because the sheer amount of episodes. Same reason I assume a lot of people avoid Dragon Ball |
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I probably spent more seconds staring at that than I should have |
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| Because attractiveness is only one of many factors when it comes to appealing, charming designs. At least for anyone who has more than a dick between their ears. |
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