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| Wow that got unexpectedly dark. 0.o Luckily Takuya set a checkpoint before the quiz so he should be able to save her. It's had an admittedly slow start but now the plot has got going I'm really looking forward to rest of the show! |
Maxiel said: What about the game? i was thinking about playing it but is it the exact same thing as this one? Far different and far more tragic while Takuya was hot on Toyotomi's tracks the entire time witnessing everything. This route sold me on the visual novel if you feel intrigued i highly recommend you pick it up. It's ahead of its time and while it has a compelling narrative it's the game play that sells the game as a solid mystery and the art + gorgeous animation that makes Yu-No a classic. |
Vader_ said: I rather wait 10 years for the Hentai remake or playing the VN than watching this I highly recommend you read the visual novel there's a patch for voices and sound as well that makes the pc-98 version worth the read also later this year will be an official release. And if you're suspecting much was left out, it's far more than you can imagine. |
AMcLemore_ said: I started watching this anime because I thought it was interesting but frankly after this episode I lost all interest That's a shame the 1996 visual novel was ahead of its time i feel like if you put two hours into that instead you would feel far more interest. /watch?v=qGxwH6-_a7E |
Mythologically said: The only problem I really have with this is what I call the "Re:Zero debacle", where the drama really loses a lot of weight because Takuya will just press one button and go back to the past. This isn't the case in the visual novel as much has been built up and your return point is set by mere feeling or knowing what happens ahead of time. I highly suggest you read. |
| It wasn't a bad episode but I still find quite disturbing the fact they use both ecchi scenes (Takuya's talk with his teacher & the journalist) and also very serious/hard scenes (the ending especially with a murder or a suicide attempt). It was sure Ayuma got involved in a trap, now this cannot be more confirmed. But I still feel suspicious about the journalist, she seems helpful at first but as she said, "yesterday was yesterday, today is today", which somehow means she could be your enemy the next day. Hoping MC will take her at her own game. |
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| It bothers me that he din't immediately press reset after seeing that. does he only have 1 save point I think he needs to go much further back to resolve this problem. He should interrogate the reporter woman and reset after they exchanged information. I still don't trust anyone though |
| Man this show is just super strange with how it handles everything lol |
| “I love heroes, but I don't want to be one. Do you even know what a hero is!? For example, you have some meat. Pirates will feast on the meat, but the hero will distribute it among the people! I want to eat the meat!” - Monkey D. Luffy |
| now we're talkin'! things are getting more serious to the edge! btw why does this show have a lot of hot chicks!?!? 4/5. |
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| This has been a fairly crappy show so far but I'm starting to get into it. I like the dark twists but even more the fact that we don't really know who to trust, especially as it seems we can't truly trust what we've seen so far. I do love a good mystery - I just wish the dialogue was a bit smarter. |
Mythologically said: Hello guys it is me person with 17 functioning brain cells and I am here today to divine the unshakable truth of the world: if rape is present in an entertainment medium it's just shock value lmfao who cares if it's an important plot point lmao what are you an edgy teen haha Great to see that this is getting the Goblin Slayer treatment on a much smaller scale. Makes me enjoy the show more. Seems people are much more triggered of the NTR than "rape". People can get extremely nuts when NTR is present on their anime. |
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| Too many Puritans these days who wish to restrict what fictional stuff other people like. Goblin Slayer was pretty good. The almost entirely underestimated goblins in that universe were effectively portrayed as utterly evil and unlike most MCs, Goblin Slayer was not overpowered and needed allies to help protect what was dear to him. I dropped this anime after ep3. I felt Flunky taking the envelope was too predictable and was generally bored by the anime up to that point. I skimmed through 4 and I couldn't feel a thing except a tinge of NTR which annoys me so that's it for me. |
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madaodono said: Too many Puritans these days who wish to restrict what fictional stuff other people like. Goblin Slayer was pretty good. The almost entirely underestimated goblins in that universe were effectively portrayed as utterly evil and unlike most MCs, Goblin Slayer was not overpowered and needed allies to help protect what was dear to him. I dropped this anime after ep3. I felt Flunky taking the envelope was too predictable and was generally bored by the anime up to that point. I skimmed through 4 and I couldn't feel a thing except a tinge of NTR which annoys me so that's it for me. Just so you know, the first 4-5 episodes of this are mainly world/character building and the main, overarching plot is coming soon. You haven't seen really anything yet. It starts out slow but you'll see soon why it's rated as one of the best visual novels of all time if you keep watching. |
La_Wedra said: ycleped said: I think she pissed herself while getting rapedThere were two of them, my point is that the amount of sex from using two condoms wouldn't cause the bed to be that wet and that the tissues/wet bed were a result of her crying. Basically Toyotomi saw she was vulnerable and took advantage of that and she let him. It's not rape but it certainly is fucked up. And I can tell you that she didn't because I've actually read the visual novel, but okay. |
m1n1nova said: ycleped said: There were two of them, my point is that the amount of sex from using two condoms wouldn't cause the bed to be that wet and that the tissues/wet bed were a result of her crying. Basically Toyotomi saw she was vulnerable and took advantage of that and she let him. It's not rape but it certainly is fucked up. So the sex was consensual, but she decide to kill herself due to guilt is that correct? Damn, that's actually more fucked up to be honest. It has only been like 2-3 months since fathers disappearance? Ayumi is obviously still in love with MC's father, and there are hints of hidden feelings for MC aswell. The audience knows that Toyotomi is a scumbag. In addition, the fact that MC caught them during the act and turning violent makes it even more fucked up that she would actually carry on to have sex with that guy moments after. Part of me wish there was bribery/blackmail involved to at least "justify" her actions, but I guess she was just not a strong person after all. You'll find out next episode why she decided to kill herself. At least, if they stay true to the VN, you will. |
ycleped said: Just so you know, the first 4-5 episodes of this are mainly world/character building and the main, overarching plot is coming soon. You haven't seen really anything yet. It starts out slow but you'll see soon why it's rated as one of the best visual novels of all time if you keep watching. You should really stop speaking like you already know how the anime turns out because right now it's already very different. Don't put your impression of the game into this series as both are its own things. And you are actually doing the series a big disservice when you are keeping expectations so high after each and every episode. People should be able to come with their own likes and dislikes and not every speculation needs to be answered or corrected, not every viewer needs to be proved wrong based on your perception of the source material. The series isn't certainly bad but you can't really compare it to the game and even now it's already obvious it's not up to par due to its average direction. I'm actually all for directing touches and changes that would make the anime flow better but it have to be done with some real thought of all implications, like in was in Clannad or Steins;Gate. Here, they already omitted or changed some key things in Ayumi route and I don't think it's for the better: And by breaking the orignal succession of those events they already lessend the impact in the end. Also, in the anime Toyotomi is pictured as complete retard while the game shows him really depandable and supportive, at least from Ayumi's perspective (and Takuya really comes out only as jealous unmature son). That being said, I still enjoy watching this series to some extent. What I meant to say is that the structure of the anime is quite different and you can't possibly project your impressions of the game into it - because it flows very differentely in the first place and the merging all the routes together may possibly bite their back later on if they ever attempt to have one single timeline with only few small jumps back. The game is honestly great but don't put any equal sign with the anime. |
Mich666 said: ycleped said: Just so you know, the first 4-5 episodes of this are mainly world/character building and the main, overarching plot is coming soon. You haven't seen really anything yet. It starts out slow but you'll see soon why it's rated as one of the best visual novels of all time if you keep watching. You should really stop speaking like you already know how the anime turns out because right now it's already very different. Don't put your impression of the game into this series as both are its own things. And you are actually doing the series a big disservice when you are keeping expectations so high after each and every episode. People should be able to come with their own likes and dislikes and not every speculation needs to be answered or corrected, not every viewer needs to be proved wrong based on your perception of the source material. The series isn't certainly bad but you can't really compare it to the game and even now it's already obvious it's not up to par due to its average direction. I'm actually all for directing touches and changes that would make the anime flow better but it have to be done with some real thought of all implications, like in was in Clannad or Steins;Gate. Here, they already omitted or changed some key things in Ayumi route and I don't think it's for the better: And by breaking the orignal succession of those events they already lessend the impact in the end. Also, in the anime Toyotomi is pictured as complete retard while the game shows him really depandable and supportive, at least from Ayumi's perspective (and Takuya really comes out only as jealous unmature son). That being said, I still enjoy watching this series to some extent. What I meant to say is that the structure of the anime is quite different and you can't possibly project your impressions of the game into it - because it flows very differentely in the first place and the merging all the routes together may possibly bite their back later on if they ever attempt to have one single timeline with only few small jumps back. The game is honestly great but don't put any equal sign with the anime. You're right, perhaps I have been doing the series a disservice and for that I apologize. I hope you can understand though that they only have so much time in a 26 episode anime and cutting stuff out is unavoidable. What would you have cut out/changed instead of what they decided to cut out/changed? I understand your frustrations that they're leaving stuff out, but what would you have done different in these first 4 episodes, given that they only have 26 episodes to work with? Ultimately Ayumi's arc was the most boring for me in the visual novel and was kinda hard for me to get through. I'm hyping up the anime because I know what's to come and it gets much better from here. Even in the visual novel, Ayumi's arc sucked compared to the other arcs and the rest of the story, so I think it's very fair for me to be telling people it gets much better from here. I'm keeping expectations high because if the rest of the visual novel went like Ayumi's route did, I almost certainly would have dropped it. I actually did drop it after Ayumi's route when I read it first, but ultimately decided to continue a month later because I knew there was a reason it was rated that highly. TL;DR: Ayumi's route in my opinion sucked in the visual novel and I would have dropped it after that if I hadn't had people telling me it got much better. That's why I'm keeping expectations high, so that people know it gets much better. |
ycleped said: You're right, perhaps I have been doing the series a disservice and for that I apologize. I hope you can understand though that they only have so much time in a 26 episode anime and cutting stuff out is unavoidable. What would you have cut out/changed instead of what they decided to cut out/changed? I understand your frustrations that they're leaving stuff out, but what would you have done different in these first 4 episodes, given that they only have 26 episodes to work with? Ultimately Ayumi's arc was the most boring for me in the visual novel and was kinda hard for me to get through. I'm hyping up the anime because I know what's to come and it gets much better from here. Even in the visual novel, Ayumi's arc sucked compared to the other arcs and the rest of the story, so I think it's very fair for me to be telling people it gets much better from here. I'm keeping expectations high because if the rest of the visual novel went like Ayumi's route did, I almost certainly would have dropped it. I actually did drop it after Ayumi's route when I read it first, but ultimately decided to continue a month later because I knew there was a reason it was rated that highly. TL;DR: Ayumi's route in my opinion sucked in the visual novel and I would have dropped it after that if I hadn't had people telling me it got much better. That's why I'm keeping expectations high, so that people know it gets much better. I know there are some time constraint but I still think they should have put emphasis on some more important things, use show not tell techique here and there and demonstrate branching worldlines better, especially Takuya's ability to keep the items he picks with him. Also, some minor bad ends would be nice as those put some hints into the story, kept people interested and present his constant struggle to make things right. Also, what the anime direlyy lacks are MC's monologues, some insight into Takuya's thinking and doing as so far he's not very relatable in the anime while in the game it was obvious instantly his pervert jokes are just a facade and he can be very dependable when needed. I don't think Ayumi's arc is bad per se, I actually quite enjoyed it thanks to great Ayumi-Takuya relationship and it drops some important hints along the way (also, may favourite Kikuko Inoue as VA there) but I agree it's very introductory and low on actual game meat that gets more intense in different plotlines. Still, it's well needed as it sets the stage and mechanics for the other routes and knowing a lot about Takuya father and Geo-Technics is very important later and the impact would be probably halved if not for this story. Well, seems like the next episode will wrap up Ayumi's story and I really wonder what approach they choose to move the story forward from there on. |
JAFOO said: Ok so can someone tell me if she was in a relationship with the green haired guy since she backed him up when he was getting beat up? And was she raped or they both agreed? Consensual. He's manipulating her tho. |
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Tony_SansNom said: DrKrUeL said: I agree with you, I will simply create another timeline where she is alive, but it does not take away the fact that she died in her original line, as happened in the anime steins; gate only that in that anime the protagonist could if erase temporary lines, It isn't a good parallel because this is not how it works in Steins;Gate. In Steins;Gate, there is only one active worldline at a time. The rest becomes mere possibility. There is no multiverse in Steins;Gate. |
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Cyanwasserstoff said: Tony_SansNom said: It isn't a good parallel because this is not how it works in Steins;Gate. In Steins;Gate, there is only one active worldline at a time. The rest becomes mere possibility. There is no multiverse in Steins;Gate. |
"Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences."  |
I'll say this and i'll be my last reply in this episode discussion(and im thinking I may drop the anime even tho ive played the game and like it). |
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Jansonseth said: ycleped said: And this is where the score starts to skyrocket. If it isn't back up past 6.50 next week I'll eat a sock. This was done spectacularly and even better than how the VN did it. AND THE OST FINALLY PICKS UP THANK GOD Almost ready to eat that sock? It's still "next week" until the end of Saturday :^) |
JAFOO said: Dang bro, sorry about your cousin Thanks, I appreciate it. |
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| By far the best episode to date. It finally feels like things are picking up. This has been moving at a snail's pace and it was starting to become a task to watch. We can assume flunky A did indeed gave sex with Ayumi, especially given the open condom wrappers. I can assume he'll use the time device to try and fix things. Almost reminds me of Steins;Gate. I really want to know what Geotech is hiding too. |
| This is just like that nasty blackmail-rape-NTR doujin I read last night. So cliche. Dude now has to go back in time to save his mom. Hopefully he beats the shit out of flunky A. |
| Holy rape xD, why? Lol. BD = H? xD. |
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