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| As much as I love Unravel, the fight was soo poorly scripted like holy shit (Only thing decent was the inner monologue of Sasaki and younger Kaneki). I know the first episode made it seem like the series had better animation, but man these fights are terribly executed so far, too much freeze frame action poses and no actual contact with hits. At this point they should just skip the fights smh. Pierrot upgraded the art style but the animation is complete ass in fluidity and cinematics. I know the Tokyo Ghoul Root A hate train, but I have to admit their fight choreography between qinques and kagune was amazing and is still what I hope :Re could have.  |
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| Come on, Kaneki! Just come back! :D His opponent is so strong. The 1st opening gave me chills. I love this season so far! |
| okay am i trippin or what? shouldn't it be 3rd "rank" instead of 3rd "grade" when establishing an investigators status. Its no big deal but I cant help but to think of grade school when they do. |
| The fact that they used Unravel like this is a testament to the fact that this show is really hopeless. anesubt said: The issue with this season is that no one gives AF about this Haise Sasaki guy. All the time we invested in Season 1 and 2 to get involved with the main character is basically thrown out the window and dangled like a carrot on a stick. If this season was a standalone anime I GUARANTEE you that the score and the view on this anime would be an overwhelming 4/10. The only reason we watch is the hope of a character and plot that we thought was a 7/10 or 8/10 which is why we stay and trudge along through this awful plot. I dont care if it was in the manga, this is a show, what works in a book doesnt work in a show which is why shows aren't ever the same (obviously). That is the true sum of this show right now whether you agree or not, if you looked at this season as a standalone piece, unrelated/never having seen tokyo ghoul, a majority of you would call it a piece of **** anime. Yes. The new characters are way too one-dimensional. A silent leader, a lazy girl, an emo that want be badass, a "hey, oniki" type of guy. But this is not the biggest problem. With Kaneki we were discovering a new setting, a new world and different things. Thanks to discovering those things the main characters have developed. Right now we know everything: CCG is fighting ghouls, The Owl is the strongest type of ghoul, the highest rank of ghoul is SS and so on. It feels like a conclusion from the previous season but with totally new characters. This is such a stupid idea. Just like the fact that CCG has Arima. Should not he be there to own all the ghouls? He is such a deus-ex machina character. Did they started to raid ghouls without their strongest investigator? IT IS FRIGGIN RETARDED. This is really written like a shounen. Arima is waiting for main enemy to appear. Then he will attack him saying: "You finally showed up, fight me". Fucking atrocious. |
| The strongest ghoul is SSS rated. Not SS |
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dasprn said: Jacksworld said: Neither. Takizawa as you may remember was a fully human ghoul investigator and is Dr Kanou's latest experiment. Kaneki was made from Rize (Binge Eater) but he made his own identity so he was never called anything in relation to her. I won't spoil who Takizawa's ghoul half came from, but the name is a reference to that. Not a species or sub species. It's like how both Touka and Ayato are rabbits. So its an experimental creation? Yes he's like kaneki just with a different source ghoul for his ghoul half. |
| Ok...so I'm going to put my thoughts here about the show so far. I'm someone who strictly watches the anime, so obviously like many there are a lot of things that are probably passing through me right now. My posts tend to be long but if you care to read, here I go: I think that Tokyo Ghoul is special as a seinen psychological show that explores areas that few shows would want to touch like what it even means to have humanity. Being human does not necessarily give you more humanity than a ghoul when both kill for power, for money, etc. This series explores these separate worlds and gives the viewers perspectives of both sides. The first season being the ghouls, and this season we are able to see it from the perspective of an investigator. That is, in times of peace but in war it shows this battle, this chaos that shows there can be no peaceful world where both sides coexist...so they aim to obliterate the other. And it is this endless cycle. In terms of this season, this battle that continues outside goes on inside Sasaki as well, or at least this is how I interpret it and to me I am seeing how perhaps he rejects the ghoul side of him because of the emptiness he felt when he was a ghoul and literally lost all his sanity. Perhaps he saw no hope for him at the end of it, so this new identity was created in hopes of finding purpose, hope once again.I feel like Sasaki remembers or has some memory of the feeling of emptiness he had in the past and clings onto the things in the present to fill in the void he talks about in this episode. Yet, his past was 'strong' and in order to be strong he sacrificed his humanity and this is not something he wants to go back to. What leads me to this conclusion is that Haise is constantly saying that he cherishes his team and his current memories because they are the reason he keeps fighting and fights for what he believes in. Perhaps there was this loss of purpose as Kaneki and subconsciously he does not want to go back. As a psychology major, I find the psychological aspects of Kaneki's character development very interesting and that is what keeps me hooked onto the show as well as the action. So, the problem I have with the show (lack of 'direction' it seems) is done intentionally but for someone who only watches the anime I think there are so many things that have been left out so and it feels incomplete. Now, the problem I have which is a problem for me right now at this moment (since I don't know what happens next so don't come after me for not knowing) is that it seems to be...directionless with senseless battles that do not really seem to be leading up to anything. I could argue that at the end of season 1 it was the same. It lead to his end, and now at this 'new beginning' Sasaki seems to be heading back. The question I have in my mind when I watch a series is...so what? What is the author trying to convey through these themes, the conflict? Is it that power corrupts you to the point of Kaneki? Is it that perhaps people remind you who you are and it is not your past that defines you? At many times I feel this show is left for interpretation but may even simulate how things happen in real life. It seems like it is going nowhere. So because of this I get this unsatisfactory feeling the more I learn about the Tokyo Ghoul world...don't get me wrong it definitely intrigues me which is why I keep watching. I wonder if the manga is the same (I do hear it is...) and I really do want to read it but don't know if it's worth investing in. |
EarlCielMay 9, 2018 8:54 PM
| The best part of this episode was hearing the Unravel OP from season 1 :D |
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Well thanks for the info. |
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Himawari9 said: I couldn't agree more! So well elaborated. tearofmankind said: The fact that they used Unravel like this is a testament to the fact that this show is really hopeless. Yes. The new characters are way too one-dimensional. A silent leader, a lazy girl, an emo that want be badass, a "hey, oniki" type of guy. But this is not the biggest problem. With Kaneki we were discovering a new setting, a new world and different things. Thanks to discovering those things the main characters have developed. Right now we know everything: CCG is fighting ghouls, The Owl is the strongest type of ghoul, the highest rank of ghoul is SS and so on. It feels like a conclusion from the previous season but with totally new characters. This is such a stupid idea. Just like the fact that CCG has Arima. Should not he be there to own all the ghouls? He is such a deus-ex machina character. Did they started to raid ghouls without their strongest investigator? IT IS FRIGGIN RETARDED. This is really written like a shounen. Arima is waiting for main enemy to appear. Then he will attack him saying: "You finally showed up, fight me". Fucking atrocious. There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information. You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future. This part until volume 10 of the manga are what I love the most on Tokyo Ghoul, when it wasn't all about Ken and Touka. |
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EarlCiel said: Don't worry. There is a reason to why manga readers keep bashing at this show. Ok...so I'm going to put my thoughts here about the show so far. I'm someone who strictly watches the anime, so obviously like many there are a lot of things that are probably passing through me right now. My posts tend to be long but if you care to read, here I go: I think that Tokyo Ghoul is special as a seinen psychological show that explores areas that few shows would want to touch like what it even means to have humanity. Being human does not necessarily give you more humanity than a ghoul when both kill for power, for money, etc. This series explores these separate worlds and gives the viewers perspectives of both sides. The first season being the ghouls, and this season we are able to see it from the perspective of an investigator. That is, in times of peace but in war it shows this battle, this chaos that shows there can be no peaceful world where both sides coexist...so they aim to obliterate the other. And it is this endless cycle. In terms of this season, this battle that continues outside goes on inside Sasaki as well, or at least this is how I interpret it and to me I am seeing how perhaps he rejects the ghoul side of him because of the emptiness he felt when he was a ghoul and literally lost all his sanity. Perhaps he saw no hope for him at the end of it, so this new identity was created in hopes of finding purpose, hope once again.I feel like Sasaki remembers or has some memory of the feeling of emptiness he had in the past and clings onto the things in the present to fill in the void he talks about in this episode. Yet, his past was 'strong' and in order to be strong he sacrificed his humanity and this is not something he wants to go back to. What leads me to this conclusion is that Haise is constantly saying that he cherishes his team and his current memories because they are the reason he keeps fighting and fights for what he believes in. Perhaps there was this loss of purpose as Kaneki and subconsciously he does not want to go back. As a psychology major, I find the psychological aspects of Kaneki's character development very interesting and that is what keeps me hooked onto the show as well as the action. So, the problem I have with the show (lack of 'direction' it seems) is done intentionally but for someone who only watches the anime I think there are so many things that have been left out so and it feels incomplete. Now, the problem I have which is a problem for me right now at this moment (since I don't know what happens next so don't come after me for not knowing) is that it seems to be...directionless with senseless battles that do not really seem to be leading up to anything. I could argue that at the end of season 1 it was the same. It lead to his end, and now at this 'new beginning' Sasaki seems to be heading back. The question I have in my mind when I watch a series is...so what? What is the author trying to convey through these themes, the conflict? Is it that power corrupts you to the point of Kaneki? Is it that perhaps people remind you who you are and it is not your past that defines you? At many times I feel this show is left for interpretation but may even simulate how things happen in real life. It seems like it is going nowhere. So because of this I get this unsatisfactory feeling the more I learn about the Tokyo Ghoul world...don't get me wrong it definitely intrigues me which is why I keep watching. I wonder if the manga is the same (I do hear it is...) and I really do want to read it but don't know if it's worth investing in. In the manga, it sometimes takes dozens of chapters to explain/wrap up something. While in the anime adaptation, the studio keeps skipping important details just as @Himawari9 explained. They have been doing this since Season 1, so it's no wonder that people find themselves lost in the show. I think you should just watch the anime first, then (optional) proceed to read the manga when it finished so that you will get all the explanations. |
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| Is it me or did that fight with Takizawa feel... kinda underwhelming? Like it was good and all but i feel like the fight would be better in the manga version (i read the first TG don't tell me shit). |
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| I feel like the insertion of Season 1's OP near the end was forced. I get why they made the decision to do it but honestly what I'm seeing really doesn't match the scene all too well. But I guess playing it in the background is already a hint that Kaneki is slowly going to back to his original self. We didn't see Saiko's kill that much, really disappointed. They cut it after the explosion lol. Urie as cringey as ever I see. :P I had to reminding myself that this is shounen. The amount of time Sasaki was thrown from far distances without that much is giving me a sense of disbelief. Lol. Hina, Not really sure who she was on the OG since it's been sometimes since I watched it. Is she that little kid who got her mother killed or nah? |
Khyros said: Are they going to explain what happened at the end of tg root a or show the fight between kaneki and arima ? And please manga readers tell me that kaneki is coming back instead of haise. Yes he is back soon, just wait till episode 11 or 12. |
| Hey you, yes you! Interested to be a decent human being? Then go outside and get a fucking life. |
| I know there is no one care about it, but The vote is getting better on this episode, we have 65% of 5/5 vote. Better than the previous episode which only have 36% and 39% of 5/5 vote. that means this episode is much better than the previous episode, right? |
| Hey you, yes you! Interested to be a decent human being? Then go outside and get a fucking life. |
| Such a treat hearing Ling Tosite Sigure "unravel" -> that's all I can say this episode. 4/5. |
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shayed__ said: Tomman41 said: *just watches the whole episode with a blank look on face and then unravel plays and goes OSHIETE OSHIETE YO* what have u done with the animation animators? hahaha same unravel got me hyped they get extra points for the opening |
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| that sound track i the end.... I hope kaneki emerges with in him soon |
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Himawari9 said: There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information. You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future. I am anime only watcher so: I do not even know that there is Clowns` group. Was not presented at any point. The same about Waashu and so on. I have never stated that there are not good things to come. I am sure there are some good points if there were some good points in the previous series(the same manga writer so kinda self-explanatory). I just stated that after those 6 episodes there is nothing of importance to the world building at all. After 6 episodes of Season 1 I was totally engaged with the characters and left wanting to know more about all the setting. This time? Not even close. BTW it is SSS okay, does not matter, you understood what I meant. |
| I think that "Unravel" didn't match in the fight very well. But, hey, i like it. Juuzou's past was handled very poorly. I don't felt anything. I tried to avoid comparing this to the manga version but Saiko horrified face don't felt like that here. 2.5/5 |
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Himawari9 said: There is a reason Arima can't participate in this mission that will be revealed in the next episode. And you really know everything? The Clowns' goal, the Washuu's secret, who is Kamishiro Rize, Dr. Kanou's goal and why does he keep creating one-eyed ghouls, who is the one-eyed King? And Owl is not the strongest type of ghoul, it is just a nickname based on their kakuja/kagune or mask like Kaneki's centipede, Ayato's rabbit, Yomo's raven or Uta's no-face, Takizawa's nickname is the English word "Owl" since his kakuja resemble the One-eyed owl, BTW, Eto and Yoshimura's nickname is "Fukurou" the Japanese word for owl unlike Takizawa. Highest rank of ghoul is not SS but SSS which only 3 ghouls have this rating. The Quinx is more complex than you think, ranging from Urie's desire for achievement to Mutsuki's tragic/crazy past, Shirazu's love for his sister and Saiko who was literally sold off to CCG by her mother against her will hence her lack of motivation although the anime did fail to convey some of that information. You all need to be patient instead of keeping wanting Kaneki back. His life as Haise is necessary to the future. Oh what a great replay! xD |
anesubt said: The issue with this season is that no one gives AF about this Haise Sasaki guy. All the time we invested in Season 1 and 2 to get involved with the main character is basically thrown out the window and dangled like a carrot on a stick. If this season was a standalone anime I GUARANTEE you that the score and the view on this anime would be an overwhelming 4/10. The only reason we watch is the hope of a character and plot that we thought was a 7/10 or 8/10 which is why we stay and trudge along through this awful plot. I dont care if it was in the manga, this is a show, what works in a book doesnt work in a show which is why shows aren't ever the same (obviously). I said something along those lines as the biggest reason I don't like this show any more. We have established characters available. Characters I've come to love and care for. Characters that went through hell and back. Characters that suffered, laughed, cried and celebrated together. Characters that lost the ones they care about the most. Kaneki carrying his dead friends body at the end of season 2 was crushingly sad. And then the show does this. RESET bitches! New characters, with old ones being reduced to cameos, main character not remembering shit, going back to "growing up" arc for him etc etc. I don't give 2 flying shits about Haise. I don't give 2 shits about his new team. None of them are likeable anyway. A carrot on a stick is perfect thing to say. I'm watching week after week hoping to get the old anime back, not because I like the new one. Hell, if this was a new show I would've dropped it by now. I don't like it. I don't like the characters and, well, after 6 characters I'm still waiting to see some character development beyond "I want promotion", "I want money", "I want to play games", "I want to protect my new team and not remember my past". |
| They should had kept song for Extremination arc, Realyl underwhelming season so far, too fast too many uninteresting characters, and they should had ended s2 like manga , there would not been so many question for people who don't know what's happening. |
| It took 2 seasons to make Kaneki something other than worthless... then they "reset" because the writer is too dumb to know what to do. It's like they only know how to write variations of the same crap story. Nice to see Hina. Need Touka... |
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| Oh Unravel you have been missed. |
| Great episode, the best so far. Really liked the scene of Mutsuki embracing Urie and Hinami getting some spotlight. Just two things that I thought could've been better: wish they did Seidou's kagune more justice, it didn't even look impressive; and, in the manga, there's a phrase Shirazu said and just one word that Juuzou said, both of which have been omitted here, and I don't really see why. :\ |
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| It seems that Saiko has a lot of potential, too bad we didn't get to see what her power is like since they cut it out. I wonder what would've happened if they didn't cover Juzo's ears when Big Madame said that she never loved or cared for him. Shit's about to go down when dat Unravel song starts to play. TBH, it's the only memorable song in this entire songs, I don't even remember the titles of the other songs this series has ever featured. I want to share Tokyo Chicken: I guess Kaneki Ken is back. I want Touka to come back again in this series, we only saw her in episode 2 briefly in the cafe. |
| 臭い- |
| There won't be S4 or continuation of story as TV show, Myabe movies . This Is so far Worst in series , Unravel had no place in that episode as well , They tried to pull "nostalgic" card, Their "deck" is filled with pathetic cards so far. |
wex89 said: They should had kept song for Extremination arc, Realyl underwhelming season so far, too fast too many uninteresting characters, and they should had ended s2 like manga , there would not been so many question for people who don't know what's happening. Not really IMO, it's going to be shit if they keep putting Unravel as an Ost for the last episode to every damn season! |
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Himawari9 said: I see. Tokyo Ghoul :RE ignore Season 2 Root A, make it like it never existed so there will be a lot of important things anime-only don't know like the Clown, Kanou,Rize etc. Even the author recommended to read the first manga before starting this season so you should read it but it is your choice. The Clown group was revealed in the end of the first manga before Tokyo Ghoul: Re, the members are Uta, Itori, Nico, Roma and Souta. The Washuu are the clan that created CCG and their members are top investigators with the CCG chairman is Washuu Tsuneyoshi . This anime adaption is not very good though since it seems they decided to focus on the action and skipped some of characters backstory and development. Yes, thats my problem. When an adaptation discourage to read the source material then you have something really awful IMO. Nevertheless I will read TG manga in the future, but when? You know - there is never enough time. Take into consideration that to people like you this adaptation is little better - you know characters, background and some events that will play in the future. So you could like those characters much better than I am able to. Mainly because there is no character development so far or it is botched. Shame, isn`t it? |
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