8 Values Political Test

AyameTomoko said:
Apparently I'm a Social Liberal whatever that means.

hazarddex said:
use imgur. lol well i can say the test doesn't lie a lot of your rhetoric tends to be dictatorish. although i must ask do you really like the government controlling every aspect of your life?


here @AyameTomoko

Equality (Economic)
Those with higher Equality scores believe the economy should distribute value evenly among the populace. They tend to support progressive tax codes, social programs, and at high values, socialism.
Markets (Economic)
Those with higher Market scores believe the economy should be focused on rapid growth. They tend to support lower taxes, privatization, deregulation, and at high values, laissez-faire capitalism.
Nation (Diplomatic)
Those with higher Nation scores are patriotic and nationalist. They often believe in an aggressive foreign policy, valuing the military, strength, sovereignty, and at high values, territorial expansion.
Globe (Diplomatic)
Those with higher Globe scores are cosmopolitan and globalist. They often believe in a peaceful foreign policy, emphasizing diplomacy, cooperation, integration, and at high values, a world government.
Liberty (State)
Those with higher Liberty scores believe in strong civil liberties. They tend to support democracy and oppose state intervention in personal lives. Note that this refers to civil liberties, not economic liberties.
Authority (State)
Those with higher Authority scores believe in strong state power. They tend to support state intervention in personal lives, government surveillance, and at high values, censorship or autocracy.
Tradition (Society)
Those with higher Tradition scores believe in traditional values and strict adherence to a moral code. Though not always, they are usually religious, and support the status quo or the status quo ante.
Progress (Society)
Those with higher Progress scores believe in social change and rationality. Though not always, they are usually secular or atheist, and support environmental action and scientific or technological research.



same as the last time

@traed its still better then that old dot chart we use to use that didn't tell you jack.

Salvatia said:

duno wat noe libersirsmo is

nikiforova said:
It'd be a very bad test if I was anywhere near the Center, certainly! I think this quiz is better than the Political Compass, that one is much more biased.

Nyu said:
You wouldn't believe the amount of hate someone gets just for being a Nationalist that supports welfare, lol.

Zelev said:
I was gonna do this, but then I saw it was 70 questions (wtf?). I'm a Green. There, I saved myself the trouble.

Noboru said:
Political Compass has a Left-leaning Bias. It's still peculiar to pick one Extreme on every Axis.

If only those People knew that Nationalists like Bismarck had introduced it in the first Place.


What Type of Green? The ones that are "Pro-Refugee" or the ones without that?

There is a Green Party in Austria without the social Ideologies:



@Frag-: Oh really? I had this Picture in Mind:

Zelev said:
While the Green Party exists across the world, each country may have some differences in Green Party values. As for refugees, I say if you bomb the hell out of their country, then you should let them in.

Noboru said:
No German-speaking Country bombs "the hell out of their country".
So which Country's Green Party would you favor?

Zelev said:
You're... joking, right? Many European countries are a part of NATO - which is a direct extension of US hegemony. Basically what I'm trying to say: anyone in NATO is America's bitch and is more than glad to take 'Merica's money; meaning they are complicit in whatever the US does, which does include murdering innocent people. I fail to see how your argument stands, tbh.

I'm a registered Green of the USA. Does that answer your question?

Noboru said:
No I'm not. Participation in the Wars are voluntary and not every Country bombs as much as the USA, the UK or France, or even at all.

Germany didn't participate in the Iraq War. Austria isn't even in NATO due to its Neutrality Policy.

Yes it does, but it's a bit disappointing. If I had to choose a Green Party, the only one I would consider would be the aforementioned "Liste Peter Pilz" in Austria, which are basically Greens, but immigration- and asylum-critical. Oh and hopefully, they'll replace the original "Pro-Refugee" Green Party in Austria. So far, they seem to be quite successful.

Zelev said:
I never claimed anyone bombs as much as the USA. However, silence enables the violence.

I am not that familiar with other Green parties. That is good to know, though.

Frag- said:
Have you ever seen centrists debating politcs for real? I guess mine won hue ^~^

Noboru said:
What do you expect them to do when they don't have a powerful enough Military to have their Voice heard?

I'm not too familiar with Green Parties in General. They have become unsympathetic to me once I got to know about how anti-nationalistic their Members have become.

Taking a closer Look at List, it seems like I can agree with quite a few Points like the 35h Week, better Family-Work-Balance, less huge Animal Transports and more Language Lessons:

https://kurier.at/politik/inland/die-wichtigsten-punkte-im-wahlprogramm-der-liste-pilz/284.306.603

https://www.deepl.com/translator


But I'm a Centrist. Does it mean that I'm not "debating politics for real" ?

Frag- said:
And when it comes to political figures/leaders, I don't know any centrist.. They just aren't interested in politics, usually.

Zelev said:
They can start by not being scum of the human earth. That's a damn start.

What is wrong with being anti-nationalistic? That is literally what caused Hitler's rise to power. Being anti-nationalist doesn't automatically mean you are pro-globalist.

I have heard many people claim to be "centrists," like my friend. Until I informed her about policies and where parties actually stand. She is now proudly leaning to the left whereas before me informing her, she seriously thought of herself as more conservative.

nikiforova said:


Well, that checks out. Want to know where I lost 5 points in Anarchism.

But how else can People in some Countries be on Average richer than People from other Countries? The World isn't fair and if you yourself don't play the Role of an Asshole, another one will gladly take your Position.

The Loss of the Culture and Ideals which has lead to a Degeneration of Society, especially when it comes to Debate Culture and how to deal with political Opponents, see: https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1669516

Likewise, being a Nationalist doesn't automatically mean you are an Anti-Globalist. The Wish to work together with other Nations especially in Terms of Climate Protection or the general Protection of Mother Nature and Space Programs can be still valid even when you hold your Nation and your own People dear over every other.

Isn't she just picking the lesser Evil? Also, Parties are relative and depend not only on each Country, but also on the Persons and their Program, as we've seen with the Green Parties (though the Spin-off Party isn't really a Party, but a List of former Greens).

To give an Example: I can't really imagine the as "far-right"-titled Parties ("Front National" in France is btw. economically quite Left) in Europe to be any good when it comes to being part of an actual Government, with the Exception of maybe the FPÖ (Freedom Party of Austria). Btw.: I don't think I could have regretted my Choice if I could have voted in Austria, because pretty much every prospected Party to enter the new Parliament seems like a well-placed Vote, unlike with the Parties over here, where there is only the Choice between Pest, Cholera, Pest-Protest and Cholera-Protest.

Gholy said:
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I thought Merkel, Macron and other European Leaders were pretty close to the Center. There's also Third Way which combines Center-Left social Policies with Center-Right economic ones and Third Position, which is the Opposition to both Communism and Capitalism.

Since I don't see any System without Capitalism sustainable for large Societies, I'm not for the Third Position, but I am still interested whether or not there was or can be something beyond Capitalism and Communism, something that is completely different from both and not a Mix of various Degree of them.
Third Way sounds quite interesting as well instead of just fixing on the respective Point on the political Spectrum, whether Left, Center-Left, Center, Center-Right or Right.

Gholy said:
@Frag-
inb4 "fascism is capitalism in decay"

Frag- said:

Facists being capitalits now?

I'm triggered :)

Frag- said:
What makes you think Merkel is a centrist?

Better if you use the "Socialism" instead of the scary word "Communism", they're usually different things. Communism is a more unique thing.

Depends how you look at it. Wouldn't a centrist be choosing both evils at the same time?

deal with it, the World isn't fair. You can however do your Part and try to welcome "Refugees" or at least some homeless People into your Home.

What Fallacy?
Didn't say that Culture and Nationalism are mutually exclusive. The traditional Culture is what seems to vanish with Modern Art ("degenerated Art") and with it comes a Loss of traditional Values, which is bad for the Society, since it can lead to an Identity Crisis, especially for Immigrants and those with Foreign Migration Background, but also for the own People.

They would try to minimize the Evils of both Side.
Btw.: Aren't Independents rather Centrist?

traed said:
I think the chart just shows where ideologies would go not really meant to identify your ideology because those tests dont ask the right questions.

It's an ideology Communists call Capitalist and Capitalists call Communist lol It's a mix of aspects of socialism and capitalism but generally it's considered closer to socialism but it depends on the Mutualist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutualism_(economic_theory)

Comic_Sans said:
What questions should those tests ask then?

Thanks for the link, mutualism sounds interesting

Socialism's Goal is to eventually reach Communism, that's why I speak of Communism when it comes to the polar Opposite of Capitalism. There is no Country that has even completely reached the Stage of Socialism.

traed said:

Their economic policy is all over the place but it's generally at centre and to right. Facism is basically when you take some of the worst aspects of right wing and left wing economic ideas and mash them together with nationalism. They believe in a hierarchal system where your class is a identity to be forcibly embraced for all which is directly contrast to socialism being for a non hierarchal system. It is capitalism in framework due to the hierarchy and support of private ownership of means of production but it's not the kind of capitalism you like.

Frag- said:
People try to put fascism as right or far-right.
But Fascism is nothing but a social totalitarianism. It doesn't matter how people label it.

Frag- said:

People try to put facism as right or far-right.
But Facism is nothing but a social tolitarianism. It doesn't matter how people label it.