Kakegurui - Compulsive Gambler -
Available on Manga Store
New
Sep 21, 2017 1:14 PM
#1
Well, it's not really surprising but... "The staff of the television anime adaptation of Homura Kawamoto and Tōru Naomura's Kakegurui anime announced on Thursday that the 12th and final episode, which airs on Saturday, will have an anime-original ending." https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-21/kakegurui-anime-has-original-ending/.121692 |
Sep 21, 2017 1:31 PM
#2
noooo MAPPA thats a wrong move, especially with this anime because it's so short :( i'd understand if it was 24 eps but this is so short |
Sep 21, 2017 1:34 PM
#3
Any chances they do a second season? They can ignore this final episode can't they if they do another season? |
Sep 21, 2017 1:36 PM
#4
It was kind of expected given that what transpires after last week's events would take more than one episode to cover. Not only that but it still wouldn't have seemed to fit the bill for ending a season. Well I just hope it ends up being entertaining as I've been loving the series since it aired and hopefully in the future we end up getting a second season. |
Sep 21, 2017 1:37 PM
#5
Ah, welp. I figured this was gonna happen due to how the preview of the next episode looked and that it would take multiple episodes for the next event, and this just confirmed it. There's goes the chance of a second season likely coming. Kind of a shame. Also rather weird they've decided to do this since this has been very faithful to the manga up to this point. They really should have done more than 12 episodes (same for Classroom of the Elite). Well, I hope the final episode will be worthy. |
Sep 21, 2017 1:49 PM
#6
Ah, dammit. I knew it. >_> This is a bit of a shame. The opening foreshadowing where I thought it will likely end up on is all false. lol Well, let's just see how this will go. Jack_100HP said: noooo MAPPA thats a wrong move, especially with this anime because it's so short :( i'd understand if it was 24 eps but this is so short I feel the exact same way. :( Should have made this more than 12 episodes. Then they wouldn't have to do this (and skipped a few notable things from the manga). Mike_ptbr said: Any chances they do a second season? They can ignore this final episode can't they if they do another season? Like Ao No Exorcist did (sort of)? I guess they could do that, but wouldn't that make this rather confusing? I don't know. I don't think we're getting a second season. I think we can probably hope for another adaption to this in the future after the manga is completed like how Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood did, though I don't think that's likely imo. |
AmyTwoSep 21, 2017 2:34 PM
Sep 21, 2017 2:00 PM
#8
They should've made this a 13-episode series and have the last two episodes cover the tower arc. That way, they could've ended this season right after the tower arc, and that would've been a much more proper ending than an original anime ending. It's a shame that after being so strong and faithful to the manga, Kakegurui will end on a filler. I hope the ending will still be entertaining, at least. Regardless, I guess this means there won't be a second season anytime soon. |
VinnyLamSep 21, 2017 2:18 PM
Sep 21, 2017 2:09 PM
#9
TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. |
Sep 21, 2017 2:10 PM
#10
Sep 21, 2017 2:14 PM
#11
Blarey said: TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. Original endings cut off a story that is not supposed to end yet with a finale that has nothing to do with the source material. Imagine a movie based on Mutiny on the Bounty but it ends when they arrive in Tahiti and Christian and Bligh have a sword fight. |
Sep 21, 2017 2:21 PM
#12
TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. Original endings cut off a story that is not supposed to end yet with a finale that has nothing to do with the source material. Imagine a movie based on Mutiny on the Bounty but it ends when they arrive in Tahiti and Christian and Bligh have a sword fight. Yeah but it's different for an anime with only 12 episodes, of course everyone would prefer it to have more episodes and finish every arc. The anime industry doesn't work that way. At least it's better than rushing through an arc or cutting it off halfway. |
Sep 21, 2017 2:29 PM
#13
Blarey said: TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. Original endings cut off a story that is not supposed to end yet with a finale that has nothing to do with the source material. Imagine a movie based on Mutiny on the Bounty but it ends when they arrive in Tahiti and Christian and Bligh have a sword fight. Yeah but it's different for an anime with only 12 episodes, of course everyone would prefer it to have more episodes and finish every arc. The anime industry doesn't work that way. At least it's better than rushing through an arc or cutting it off halfway. I agree that the way anime are currently made is not very customer friendly when it comes to adapting. On the other hand, having multiple seasons over multiple years is still better than fillers, so...yeah. But ending a first season with an original ending is a bad move, you block yourself from producing more if it becomes a success. In terms of economics, the anime industry still needs to learn a lot. |
Sep 21, 2017 4:59 PM
#14
This really only works if they're setting up for a second season. While I don't read the manga, I'm pretty sure the previous episode ended volume 5. Obviously they can't adapt an entire volume(volume 6) into one episode, so this really all depends on whether or not they want to have another season. If by chance the end of volume 6 has a good stopping point however, then the question becomes why not have 13 episodes instead of 12. I guess manga readers know the answer to whether it has a good stopping point or not. Anyway, I'm certainly skeptical for the time being on this decision. |
GrimmgetaSep 21, 2017 5:12 PM
Sep 21, 2017 5:02 PM
#15
RIP there goes my dreams of a second season. I knew it would happen since The Tower Arc was supposed to be next.. Disappointed but not surprised. |
yeehaw |
Sep 21, 2017 5:08 PM
#16
Sep 21, 2017 5:11 PM
#17
1) I think everyone knew this already. 2) Why is everyone saying MAPPA made a mistake when the show isn't even that popular? It's average in popularity, if anything. |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Sep 21, 2017 7:01 PM
#18
Grimmgeta said: While I don't read the manga, I'm pretty sure the previous episode ended volume 5. Obviously they can't adapt an entire volume(volume 6) into one episode, so this really all depends on whether or not they want to have another season. If by chance the end of volume 6 has a good stopping point however, then the question becomes why not have 13 episodes instead of 12. I guess manga readers know the answer to whether it has a good stopping point or not. Anyway, I'm certainly skeptical for the time being on this decision. Episode 11 was the end of the 5th volume, that is true. And I was thinking the same thing. Have 13 instead of 12 and they could wrap up the next game as well, I think (either that or 14). Ending volume 6 would have been a good stopping point to me, and it's not only because of what the opening signified (or that it looked like it did). Zelev said: 1) I think everyone knew this already. 2) Why is everyone saying MAPPA made a mistake when the show isn't even that popular? It's average in popularity, if anything. 1) We had a huge feeling that this would happen, yeah. 2) Very true that this series is not that popular. I doubt many people, if not anyone, will argue about that (I was surprised as fuck that apparently this was one of the most popular this season, though that's not saying much either. Still not that popular. None of the shows that came from this season are that popular. BHA did not come from this season, of course), but it's not like that popularity matters. It's their own decision in the first place in the length of it all, for whatever reason. Take a look at Nanbaka for instance. That series certainly is nowhere near being popular and that had two seasons. Whether popular or not, they could have at least made 13 (or 14) episodes of this instead of 12, like a few people have said before, then they wouldn't have to make an anime only ending, you know? |
Sep 21, 2017 7:58 PM
#19
AmyTwo said: Ah, dammit. I knew it. >_> This is a bit of a shame. The opening foreshadowing where I thought it will likely end up on is all false. lol Well, let's just see how this will go. Jack_100HP said: noooo MAPPA thats a wrong move, especially with this anime because it's so short :( i'd understand if it was 24 eps but this is so short I feel the exact same way. :( Should have made this more than 12 episodes. Then they wouldn't have to do this (and skipped a few notable things from the manga). Mike_ptbr said: Any chances they do a second season? They can ignore this final episode can't they if they do another season? Like Ao No Exorcist did (sort of)? I guess they could do that, but wouldn't that make this rather confusing? I don't know. I don't think we're getting a second season. I think we can probably hope for another adaption to this in the future after the manga is completed like how Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood did, though I don't think that's likely imo. The mangaka of Fullmetal Alchemist is the one who wanted an anime original ending in the 1st place. Plus ever since the year 2004 FMA ( both animes and manga) have become one of Square Enix's (manga magazine) biggest properties yet. So of course FMA gets a remake because the anime before that was popular enough. Which is also why it had 2 anime movies, OVA's, specials, video games from square enix and a live action film. The propriety has to make money if you want more of it. In Japan atleast. Merchandise is important to an anime's success. |
HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Sep 21, 2017 8:46 PM
#20
Sep 21, 2017 9:03 PM
#21
mehmehperson said: AmyTwo said: Ah, dammit. I knew it. >_> This is a bit of a shame. The opening foreshadowing where I thought it will likely end up on is all false. lol Well, let's just see how this will go. Jack_100HP said: noooo MAPPA thats a wrong move, especially with this anime because it's so short :( i'd understand if it was 24 eps but this is so short I feel the exact same way. :( Should have made this more than 12 episodes. Then they wouldn't have to do this (and skipped a few notable things from the manga). Mike_ptbr said: Any chances they do a second season? They can ignore this final episode can't they if they do another season? Like Ao No Exorcist did (sort of)? I guess they could do that, but wouldn't that make this rather confusing? I don't know. I don't think we're getting a second season. I think we can probably hope for another adaption to this in the future after the manga is completed like how Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood did, though I don't think that's likely imo. The mangaka of Fullmetal Alchemist is the one who wanted an anime original ending in the 1st place. Plus ever since the year 2004 FMA ( both animes and manga) have become one of Square Enix's (manga magazine) biggest properties yet. So of course FMA gets a remake because the anime before that was popular enough. Which is also why it had 2 anime movies, OVA's, specials, video games from square enix and a live action film. The propriety has to make money if you want more of it. In Japan atleast. Merchandise is important to an anime's success. Oh, so it was the mangaka before that wanted an original ending to that. I never knew that. (Reads on) Oh, I see. No wonder. Well, can't say I'm surprised about the sort of thing at all either. Basic business thing, and I think the series deserved it anyway. Kittens-kun said: I don't think anime original endings are inherently bad. As long as it doesn't make a second season impossible, or effect the story negatively, then it should be fine. Just kind of sucks to me that they could have just made one or two more episodes (though I bet that's much easier said than done). But yeah, they're not always bad. There have been some I've seen before that I've enjoyed regardless and a few I even enjoyed more than the original sources' direction. So here's to hoping that this'll do fine, but I'm a little skeptical since this is the very last episode and all. |
Sep 21, 2017 9:25 PM
#22
AmyTwo said: mehmehperson said: AmyTwo said: Ah, dammit. I knew it. >_> This is a bit of a shame. The opening foreshadowing where I thought it will likely end up on is all false. lol Well, let's just see how this will go. Jack_100HP said: noooo MAPPA thats a wrong move, especially with this anime because it's so short :( i'd understand if it was 24 eps but this is so short I feel the exact same way. :( Should have made this more than 12 episodes. Then they wouldn't have to do this (and skipped a few notable things from the manga). Mike_ptbr said: Any chances they do a second season? They can ignore this final episode can't they if they do another season? Like Ao No Exorcist did (sort of)? I guess they could do that, but wouldn't that make this rather confusing? I don't know. I don't think we're getting a second season. I think we can probably hope for another adaption to this in the future after the manga is completed like how Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood did, though I don't think that's likely imo. The mangaka of Fullmetal Alchemist is the one who wanted an anime original ending in the 1st place. Plus ever since the year 2004 FMA ( both animes and manga) have become one of Square Enix's (manga magazine) biggest properties yet. So of course FMA gets a remake because the anime before that was popular enough. Which is also why it had 2 anime movies, OVA's, specials, video games from square enix and a live action film. The propriety has to make money if you want more of it. In Japan atleast. Merchandise is important to an anime's success. Oh, so it was the mangaka before that wanted an original ending to that. I never knew that. (Reads on) Oh, I see. No wonder. Well, can't say I'm surprised about the sort of thing at all either. Basic business thing, and I think the series deserved it anyway. Kittens-kun said: I don't think anime original endings are inherently bad. As long as it doesn't make a second season impossible, or effect the story negatively, then it should be fine. Just kind of sucks to me that they could have just made one or two more episodes (though I bet that's much easier said than done). But yeah, they're not always bad. There have been some I've seen before that I've enjoyed regardless and a few I even enjoyed more than the original sources' direction. So here's to hoping that this'll do fine, but I'm a little skeptical since this is the very last episode and all. Yeah, I'm just hoping for the best. I've really enjoyed the show so far. It would suck if the ending fell short compared to the rest of the series. |
Sep 21, 2017 9:38 PM
#23
Sep 22, 2017 9:51 AM
#24
WTF, The next duel was going to be much more intense. Shame. Other than being rush in some scenes, it's still faithful to the manga. Just hope someone would animate the rest in the near future. |
Sep 22, 2017 2:40 PM
#25
Since I haven't read the manga, I guess I can't complain either way. However, the way episode 11 ended, it seems difficult to wrap it up in a satisfactory way in the time frame of one episode, and most of the previous comments seem to think a season 2 isn't likely...it's a shame. |
Sep 22, 2017 2:43 PM
#26
When someone insult this show at least fans can now say "But manga is better"... |
Sep 22, 2017 6:21 PM
#27
Can't be worst than Fuuka, right? |
Sep 23, 2017 2:39 AM
#28
Great news, I prefer original anime endings compared to never happening second seasons.... |
Sep 23, 2017 9:46 AM
#29
Swim_Swim said: Great news, I prefer original anime endings compared to never happening second seasons.... Well, that. If a second season is not going to happen, then it's best to have an anime original ending, so that we can at least pretend the story is finished. I'm not expecting a very good finale, however. |
Friend Code 3DS: 4914-3165-5517 |
Sep 23, 2017 9:56 AM
#30
The reviews on this show though, all below 5 same with Koi to Uso oh how the tables have turned. Probably going to happen with Youkoso Jitsuryoku Shijou Shugi no Kyoushitsu e. |
Sep 25, 2017 6:51 AM
#31
Director of the anime had a interview and talked about the anime's last episode: Hayashi Yuuichiro's Interview Firstly, can you tell us more about the background behind the anime's last episode's story that was drafted by Kawamoto-sensei? Hayashi: We planned to do the Tower of Door arc. This episode was supposed to be the eventual Sayaka and President main episode. That being the case, we want to end the series with Yumeko. I want Mary and Suzui to have more screen time too! So, as a result of considering some ideas, “I pleaded with Kawamoto-sensei!” Please tell us about the highlight of the last episode Hayashi: In the end, it's the gamble between Kirari and Yumeko that has yet to be seen in the original work, right? After that, Runa's role is pretty big too. The conclusion is also like a summary of everything that's happened up till now, and small bits have been crammed into the epilogue. Also, the key item has to be the tarot cards' special point - The designs - I hope you took that in! There's a vital observation to be made here too! Please leave a few last words for everyone watching the anime! Hayashi: We've finally reached the finale. Please have fun with this mysterious gamble no one has known of yet! Though the Tower of Doors was not shown, it would be good if I could have animated that as well. Thank you very much. The authors comments summarised > I thought(worried?) a lot about what kind of animation my story could become. > However, In the end under Hayashi's supervision, I was very excited and it turned into something truly wonderful > The hardest part of the production was time constraints and deadlines, the rest was very fun. > The highlight of the original ending is of course the original gamble. (He elaborates on it - What is gambled, what can be lost, and won... etc) > I hope those watching the anime enjoy it! I hope people can enjoy both the anime and manga. > The last episode has made this become a much more intense anime than expected initially, so it is a must-watch! It is truly very fun/interesting! |
Sep 25, 2017 8:09 AM
#32
How come there won't be a second season when a new character was introduced in the end?? |
Sep 25, 2017 12:09 PM
#33
NeonCountess said: How come there won't be a second season when a new character was introduced in the end?? huh which one? screenshot pls |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Sep 25, 2017 12:12 PM
#34
I still think the end would been better IF (Tower of Doors) Be the last episode Then the anime stops , Events after this chapter are continuous and it is difficult to stop in the middle , Do not forget that the chapter is release every month or two If there is a second season I hope to be released in one year of two Do you think that the Tower of Doors Will release as OVA ? Be surprising Because of the unexpected end |
Sep 25, 2017 2:55 PM
#35
Takamura-sama said: NeonCountess said: How come there won't be a second season when a new character was introduced in the end?? huh which one? screenshot pls Too lazy to do, but in the last two minutes, that little girl (forgot her name) said: "..... even council president can't do anything about her (Yuneko) , huh Ririka" (and then you can see a girl in the shower, who I've never seen before) |
Sep 25, 2017 2:57 PM
#36
NeonCountess said: Takamura-sama said: NeonCountess said: How come there won't be a second season when a new character was introduced in the end?? huh which one? screenshot pls Too lazy to do, but in the last two minutes, that little girl (forgot her name) said: "..... even council president can't do anything about her (Yuneko) , huh Ririka" (and then you can see a girl in the shower, who I've never seen before) Oh they pulled a God eater on us. Meh I'm used to this kind of shit. The anime wasn't even that good. I fapped only 2 times |
In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful. | You know what I hate the most? People who aren't free. They're no more than cattle. |
Sep 25, 2017 3:01 PM
#37
the ending was garbage tbh |
Sep 25, 2017 11:00 PM
#38
TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. Original endings cut off a story that is not supposed to end yet with a finale that has nothing to do with the source material. Imagine a movie based on Mutiny on the Bounty but it ends when they arrive in Tahiti and Christian and Bligh have a sword fight. Yeah but it's different for an anime with only 12 episodes, of course everyone would prefer it to have more episodes and finish every arc. The anime industry doesn't work that way. At least it's better than rushing through an arc or cutting it off halfway. I agree that the way anime are currently made is not very customer friendly when it comes to adapting. On the other hand, having multiple seasons over multiple years is still better than fillers, so...yeah. But ending a first season with an original ending is a bad move, you block yourself from producing more if it becomes a success. In terms of economics, the anime industry still needs to learn a lot. That's always been my belief as well. It just seems like it makes more sense to end it on a note that's conclusive, leaves the ending open enough for a sequel, and ends in a spot faithful to the source material that makes sense. Why limit yourself in the event that it does become successful? One that comes to mind immediately is Akame ga Kill. They were extremely faithful for the first 16 episodes, and then went full anime original. Had they just ended it at the Suusano vs Esdeath fight, with the Wind Hunt teaser at the end |
Sep 26, 2017 4:40 AM
#39
NeonCountess said: Takamura-sama said: NeonCountess said: How come there won't be a second season when a new character was introduced in the end?? huh which one? screenshot pls Too lazy to do, but in the last two minutes, that little girl (forgot her name) said: "..... even council president can't do anything about her (Yuneko) , huh Ririka" (and then you can see a girl in the shower, who I've never seen before) the short girl her name is Runa |
Sep 26, 2017 4:40 AM
#40
TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: Blarey said: TrashDax said: I thought this kind of cancer died long ago... Is it cancer because you don't like it or because it's getting an original ending? Nothing wrong with an original ending, not everything has to follow the manga 100%, I think it could possibly be better that way. It's only one episode. Original endings cut off a story that is not supposed to end yet with a finale that has nothing to do with the source material. Imagine a movie based on Mutiny on the Bounty but it ends when they arrive in Tahiti and Christian and Bligh have a sword fight. Yeah but it's different for an anime with only 12 episodes, of course everyone would prefer it to have more episodes and finish every arc. The anime industry doesn't work that way. At least it's better than rushing through an arc or cutting it off halfway. I agree that the way anime are currently made is not very customer friendly when it comes to adapting. On the other hand, having multiple seasons over multiple years is still better than fillers, so...yeah. But ending a first season with an original ending is a bad move, you block yourself from producing more if it becomes a success. In terms of economics, the anime industry still needs to learn a lot. I agree with you , original ending I did not like it and open .I expected gambling to be more exciting In the last episode having multiple seasons over multiple years is still better than fillers ..Yes that's right But the question is whether they plan to make a second season or not I have a question I want to make sure , Here we can talk about manga freely |
Sep 26, 2017 6:01 AM
#41
ExxBlack said: Director of the anime had a interview and talked about the anime's last episode: Hayashi Yuuichiro's Interview Firstly, can you tell us more about the background behind the anime's last episode's story that was drafted by Kawamoto-sensei? Hayashi: We planned to do the Tower of Door arc. This episode was supposed to be the eventual Sayaka and President main episode. That being the case, we want to end the series with Yumeko. I want Mary and Suzui to have more screen time too! So, as a result of considering some ideas, “I pleaded with Kawamoto-sensei!” Please tell us about the highlight of the last episode Hayashi: In the end, it's the gamble between Kirari and Yumeko that has yet to be seen in the original work, right? After that, Runa's role is pretty big too. The conclusion is also like a summary of everything that's happened up till now, and small bits have been crammed into the epilogue. Also, the key item has to be the tarot cards' special point - The designs - I hope you took that in! There's a vital observation to be made here too! Please leave a few last words for everyone watching the anime! Hayashi: We've finally reached the finale. Please have fun with this mysterious gamble no one has known of yet! Though the Tower of Doors was not shown, it would be good if I could have animated that as well. Thank you very much. The authors comments summarised > I thought(worried?) a lot about what kind of animation my story could become. > However, In the end under Hayashi's supervision, I was very excited and it turned into something truly wonderful > The hardest part of the production was time constraints and deadlines, the rest was very fun. > The highlight of the original ending is of course the original gamble. (He elaborates on it - What is gambled, what can be lost, and won... etc) > I hope those watching the anime enjoy it! I hope people can enjoy both the anime and manga. > The last episode has made this become a much more intense anime than expected initially, so it is a must-watch! It is truly very fun/interesting! That 's my opinion. I still think that if the series ends with Tower of Door arc Will be better Yumeko she have gamble with all Except the president and the the short girl After that, the president will dissolve the student council , This will be a better ending Then a new arc begins In the second season If they decide to do it |
More topics from this board
» Realm of Gamblingegosumjohn - Nov 9, 2023 |
33 |
by egosumjohn
»»
Apr 30, 7:21 AM |
|
Poll: » Kakegurui Episode 4 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Stark700 - Jul 22, 2017 |
178 |
by reveluvie0
»»
Apr 24, 5:22 AM |
|
Poll: » Kakegurui Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Sep 23, 2017 |
373 |
by FedeMetal
»»
Apr 19, 8:40 PM |
|
Poll: » Kakegurui Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Sep 2, 2017 |
149 |
by FedeMetal
»»
Apr 18, 11:14 AM |
|
Poll: » Kakegurui Episode 8 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Aug 26, 2017 |
119 |
by FedeMetal
»»
Apr 17, 8:06 PM |