romagia said: NanoRin said: so good you specified school days 2007 cause i almost thought you were talking bout the 2005 version>> Watched Your Name >> Thinks it's a "masterpiece" >> Thinks MAL's opinion of anime is actually relevant. Yikes. Unfortunately, the answer is never. The quality of anime started declining rapidly after School Days (2007) finished airing. The fact that it has a below 7 rating on here is testament enough that true masterpieces will never get the recognition they deserve. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu IS a modern day masterpiece btw https://myanimelist.net/anime/756/School_Days_ONA Jonouchi-Katsuya said: there will be the logh remake soon enoughI feel much the same way. But, I wont lie, I am waiting for Pluto to come and usher in the next phase: Sci-Fi resurgence. Maybe I will get that gay space anime I been wanting. Know what? I don't doubt it. XD It is finally going to be released in the USA "soon". When it does, I am buying and watching it. Pretty excited. I mean not like ecchi can't still exist when scifi is dominant. Sexy scifi babes. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: romagia said: so good you specified school days 2007 cause i almost thought you were talking bout the 2005 version https://myanimelist.net/anime/756/School_Days_ONA there will be the logh remake soon enough Know what? I don't doubt it. XD It is finally going to be released in the USA "soon". When it does, I am buying and watching it. Pretty excited. I mean not like ecchi can't still exist when scifi is dominant. Sexy scifi babes.  now that you mention it there arent many space ecchi out there.. and half of them are vandread |
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Kuraokani said: NanoRin said: Your opinion is yours but it's dumb. >> Watched Your Name >> Thinks it's a "masterpiece" >> Thinks MAL's opinion of anime is actually relevant. Yikes. Unfortunately, the answer is never. The quality of anime started declining rapidly after School Days (2007) finished airing. The fact that it has a below 7 rating on here is testament enough that true masterpieces will never get the recognition they deserve. Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu IS a modern day masterpiece btw LOL. Don't really know how to give a serious response when OP cites Death Note and Your Name and MAL's rating system as judgment enough for what's considered a masterpiece. I leave out FMA:B because it's one of those rare gems where the general consensus is that it's a damn good anime. But even then, a masterpiece? Subjective. I think my issue is with the logic being used here. A true masterpiece will be one that surpasses Your Name, death note and fma:b? Or one that get's a perfect 10 score? The latter won't happen because 100% of a voting population will never agree that, said anime is 10/10, because Subjectivity. The former could happen because Shouwa Genroku Rakugo exists and it's already better than Death Note and Your Name, so it must be the true masterpiece after all. Honestly, this is all just a long ploy for me to promote Rakugo lmao. @romagia School Days (2005)? God no, never that, never that. |
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| Neither of anime you listed is a masterpiece though. MAL ratings are irrelevant. Wait for Shaft to adapt second Zaregoto volume and you'll see what a masterpiece means. |
romagia said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Know what? I don't doubt it. XD It is finally going to be released in the USA "soon". When it does, I am buying and watching it. Pretty excited. I mean not like ecchi can't still exist when scifi is dominant. Sexy scifi babes. now that you mention it there arent many space ecchi out there.. and half of them are vandread Exactly why there needs to be more. :) I fully support harems in space. Especially lesbian or gay harems. Or a bisexual harem. Goodness tops. Bad scifi anime are always better than bad SOL anime. |
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NanoRin said: perfect anime don't exis--A true masterpiece will be one that surpasses Your Name, death note and fma:b? Or one that get's a perfect 10 score? The latter won't happen because 100% of a voting population will never agree that, said anime is 10/10, because Subjectivity. https://myanimelist.net/anime/35130/Tat-chan_-_Momo-chan_no_Fushigina_Taiken |
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romagia said: NanoRin said: perfect anime don't exis--A true masterpiece will be one that surpasses Your Name, death note and fma:b? Or one that get's a perfect 10 score? The latter won't happen because 100% of a voting population will never agree that, said anime is 10/10, because Subjectivity. https://myanimelist.net/anime/35130/Tat-chan_-_Momo-chan_no_Fushigina_Taiken End of discussion, we've found our answer. Tat-chan season 2 when?? |
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Frostbytes said: Valkyrie said: Neither of anime you listed is a masterpiece though. MAL ratings are irrelevant. Wait for Shaft to adapt second Zaregoto volume and you'll see what a masterpiece means. I am afraid they won't really adapt it and more than that it probably isn't just suitable in the anime format, because We will see what Shaft comes up with. But yeah, it will be hard to pull that out. |
NanoRin said: they already defeated literally satan where next can we goromagia said: perfect anime don't exis-- https://myanimelist.net/anime/35130/Tat-chan_-_Momo-chan_no_Fushigina_Taiken End of discussion, we've found our answer. Tat-chan season 2 when?? |
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Frostbytes said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Honestly, Pluto will be that Masterpiece. But for me, A masterpiece comes every year. But a MAL masterpiece that may bring in the next era of scifi and end slice of life domination?- Pluto. A masterpiece means an anime which is close to perfection and hardly has any flaws, but sadly, imo, its quality drops in the last half with a pretty meh antagonist and the ending will leave some unanswered questions(as has been the most cases with Urasawa's works) which will leave a lot of viewers dissatisfied, granted it even gets adapted properly and fully in the first place. Pluto will be a great anime going by how awesome the main cast is and the the atmosphere, theme of the overall story but won't fall in that "masterpiece" zone for sure. Bullshit. Masterpieces can have flaws. Nothing in the definition of masterpiece says flawless. And much like the adaptation of Gravitation is superior to the manga, I expect much the same with many adaptations with obvious flaws. a work of outstanding artistry, skill, or workmanship. an artist's or craftsman's best piece of work. "Neon Genesis Evangelion for instance is a Masterpiece. But it does have flaws. If it were flawless it would probably be boring and not worth talking about. |
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Kuraokani said: rawrX3pounces said: Lmao well millions don't lie. The majority tends to be rightWho cares what people on MAL consider to be good, though? I'm curious if we watched the same show. Majority doesn't have to re right. Majority of people are stupid tbh. |
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| I thought works of art and entertainment had to offer at least a bit more than pure entertainment to earn the title of masterpieces. I never noticed that Spielberg fun movies were treated as such (no matter how well made they are), compared to a few others from the same director. Or, let's take a name known by younger people, Sam Raimi: are his Evil Dead or Spiderman movies called masterpieces? Certainly not, despite how good they are in what they do. Even without that, for Hagaren 201 I fail to see how it could be considered perfectly crafted. @Iamnotsaofan So, there are people who want Homonculus to be adapted? Why? To get the opportunity to enjoy how badly it will be received by the internet minority who watches jap.animation? (anyway, I doubt its length is short enough to be covered by a TV show) |
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Frostbytes said: Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Bullshit. Masterpieces can have flaws. Nothing in the definition of masterpiece says flawless. And much like the adaptation of Gravitation is superior to the manga, I expect much the same with many adaptations with obvious flaws. a work of outstanding artistry, skill, or workmanship. an artist's or craftsman's best piece of work. "Neon Genesis Evangelion for instance is a Masterpiece. But it does have flaws. If it were flawless it would probably be boring and not worth talking about. With obvious and many flaws it can't be a masterpiece. NGE is considered a masterpiece only because it did something out of ordinary at that time, a revolutionary work at that period, but having flaws. But pluto is nothing like that. I read the source and I am aware of Pluto's reception to the manga readers so I know well what I am talking about. But then again sao is considered a masterpiece by some so whatever.       I mean art makes you ask all sorts of questions. Art is never ever perfect. There are many questions left unanswered in many works. There are even plotholes in many great works. Art just isn't exciting when it is "perfect" or everyone likes it. But you know, you are free to not like it. But just sayin, it can still be a masterpiece. eh. Sick personally of all the negativity in the anime community. |
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Rei366 said: @Iamnotsaofan So, there are people who want Homonculus to be adapted? Why? To get the opportunity to enjoy how badly it will be received by the internet minority who watches jap.animation? (anyway, I doubt its length is short enough to be covered by a TV show) It's just my dream, dude. The chance that Homunculus get adapted is nearly impossible. |
| So last year we've got 2 masterpieces (generally acclaimed anime), Kimi no Na wa and Koe no Katachi. So it's safe to say that we're getting at least one per year. But we don't know which one it's going to be, since we can't say which anime is good before we saw it. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: Frostbytes said: With obvious and many flaws it can't be a masterpiece. NGE is considered a masterpiece only because it did something out of ordinary at that time, a revolutionary work at that period, but having flaws. But pluto is nothing like that. I read the source and I am aware of Pluto's reception to the manga readers so I know well what I am talking about. But then again sao is considered a masterpiece by some so whatever. I mean art makes you ask all sorts of questions. Art is never ever perfect. There are many questions left unanswered in many works. There are even plotholes in many great works. Art just isn't exciting when it is "perfect" or everyone likes it. Yes it is, but as I said the key word is "revolutionary" here. Did it do something to create ages of controversies, debates and discussions? If yes, then you can consider it a masterpiece, I am afraid pluto doesn't fill that criteria. It has an air of mystery to it which will create discussions but I feel many people will be dissatisfied towards the end. On the other hand, Urasawa's another work 20th CB is considered a masterpiece by many just because of how it brings something unique to the table with interesting execution, even though it has flaws. |
Psyotic said: I'd hope so but considering that Netflix doesn't promote their anime very well I doubt it. Like tbh I had totally forgotten about it until you mentioned it.amk_2397 said: When we get a western release of Masaaki Yuasa's two new movies (pls let this happen) or pretty much any future work that he does. He could see a good amount of western exposure pending on how popular Netflix's adaptation of Devilman becomes. |
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Frostbytes said: Yes it is, but as I said the key word is "revolutionary" here. Did it do something to create ages of controversies, debates and discussions? If yes, then you can consider it a masterpiece, I am afraid pluto doesn't fill that criteria. It has an air of mystery to it which will create discussions but I feel many people will be dissatisfied towards the end. On the other hand, Urasawa's another work 20th CB is considered a masterpiece by many just because of how it brings something unique to the table with interesting execution, even though it has flaws. I wish Twittering Birds Never Fly for the Yaoi genre would get adapted but it wont. But honestly, I think I am very happy with anime. <3 But you know what is extra funny? I rate things lower than you do. Yet, I have a more positive outlook on anime. Maybe you should just watch better anime that make you feel as good as anime makes me feel? I really don't know what to say. You just seem to not want to rate things 10 even when you FEEL the 10. Eh. I feel the ten, I give it 10. |
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| When Noragami gets a new season. but the the two seasons we have now are already masterpieces so.. |
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Jonouchi-Katsuya said: The Scream is perfect man. Sure it leaves questions but it has no flaws. If anything, it's perfect because it promotes thinking and questions Frostbytes said: With obvious and many flaws it can't be a masterpiece. NGE is considered a masterpiece only because it did something out of ordinary at that time, a revolutionary work at that period, but having flaws. But pluto is nothing like that. I read the source and I am aware of Pluto's reception to the manga readers so I know well what I am talking about. But then again sao is considered a masterpiece by some so whatever. I mean art makes you ask all sorts of questions. Art is never ever perfect. There are many questions left unanswered in many works. There are even plotholes in many great works. Art just isn't exciting when it is "perfect" or everyone likes it. But you know, you are free to not like it. But just sayin, it can still be a masterpiece. eh. Sick personally of all the negativity in the anime community. |
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| When Eromanga-sensei's second season airs EDIT: Sorry for my stupidity, on a serious note, I think another masterpiece will appear when David Production adapts Steel Ball Run or when some industry makes an actual good adaptation of Berserk. |
| If Death Note only had it's first half or hell, if it didn't ruin the perfect manga ending, I'd call it a masterpiece. But as it is, it's something that got close and then ruined it all with a bland second half, which also derailed Light's character a lot. The ending was just the final nail in the coffin that was his character's derailment. Also, anyone who claims that Shinkai can write for shit can't be trusted to judge the worth of an anime. Just recently, a romance anime finished airing that was 10 times what that dude can write. As far as masterpieces go, they come and go all the time. A masterpiece isn't something decided by the majority. It's something that's decided by yourself and only yourself. Ergo, it's an opinion and everyone's is different. |
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Kuraokani said: Lets also not forget about Hunter x Hunter 2021Pyxus said: Yeah if Berserk was made better it would be up thereWhen Eromanga-sensei's second season airs EDIT: Sorry for my stupidity, on a serious note, I think another masterpiece will appear when David Production adapts Steel Ball Run or when some industry makes an actual good adaptation of Berserk. |
EcchiLordMamster said: oh great, and elitist circle jerk thread "these anime are rated very high and critically acclaimed therefore i agree theyre masterpieces" Elitist circlejerk thread? It's a thread about the three most popular, overpraised and consensual shows ever, and you call this a circlejerk thread? Holy shit, you don't need much. OT: No, no and no. MAL isn't everything, MAL has a shitty anime culture and barely saw the post 2000 hits, and MAL doesn't know how to use the rating scale. The top here is way, way, way past the point where it could be of any use. And if Death Note truly was one of the best thing animu had to offer, I wouldn't be here. @Kuraokani technically, it's The Scream are perfect. And no, they aren't, and saying so is, to put it blunty, being intellectualy dishonest for the sake of defending an undefendable opinion. |
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Kuraokani said: Remember, the only thing to ever surpass a titan, is a god. I was about to reply Rabu Raibu, but this line was just so corny that it deserves a special mention. Also Rabu Raibu is airing in Fall Season so next masterpiece is Rabu Raibu Sunshine Second Season. |
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Kuraokani said: yhunata said: A flawless piece of work can be decided by the majority. It happens in every form of artistic expression If Death Note only had it's first half or hell, if it didn't ruin the perfect manga ending, I'd call it a masterpiece. But as it is, it's something that got close and then ruined it all with a bland second half, which also derailed Light's character a lot. The ending was just the final nail in the coffin that was his character's derailment. Also, anyone who claims that Shinkai can write for shit can't be trusted to judge the worth of an anime. Just recently, a romance anime finished airing that was 10 times what that dude can write. As far as masterpieces go, they come and go all the time. A masterpiece isn't something decided by the majority. It's something that's decided by yourself and only yourself. Ergo, it's an opinion and everyone's is different. No, it doesn't. All that happens is that a lot of people happen to love the same thing. |
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Kuraokani said: Will it live up?? Eren better kiss mikisa. If he does 10/10 if not 2/10 sorry ^^" well ... this serie is not about romance so i dont think it will have canon pairings in the end anyway , i heard that the first half of s3 will be slow paced and have a lot of dialogues and the 2 half will be action packed |
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| > Masterpiece > "Kimi no Trash wa" I felt a great rustling in the jimmies. Soon, my fellows, very soon.. https://myanimelist.net/anime/35716/Inferno_Cop_2nd_Season |
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