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Buck_Wade said: Yeah, and I seriously hope Re: Zero will continue being about a weakling using wit, trial and error to overcome ridiculously hard problems instead of him slowly becoming a badass like Reinhard. Although you can't help but think what'd happen if Guts from Berserk were in his place. Yeah. Everyone would get WRECKT. Hahaha yeah I get what you're saying, it just felt a bit more heavy since I marathon it in one go... The first time he broke down and went hyper active butler mode was not so bad. He could still barely scrap by with his own effort. Saving one or few lives and an entire region's residence is a huge gap, he can't cover it by his usual means anymore. From see death and dying himself, heaps of corpse of people he knew.. and finally person he care for tortured to death while he couldn't do anything. This time dragged out cause all the trauma and stress is finally chewing his mind.. he didn't have the sanity to even use wit, trial and error His desperation, powerlessness, incompetence can clearly be felt vividly. It was very well deliver by the adaption.. I'm impressed. It would be cliche if he follow he usual becoming strong/op route anyway. Just can't help find it pretty hard to watch him continuously in that state.. that's all. Now that Rem brought him back, the stagnant story can finally move again. Rem is love. <3 |
Rehls said: Bozzzz said: Old phones can last a month How do you know it was turned on all the time? No network = longer battery life Not convinced it's been a month _____________________ My bad, missed that. L-Ryoshi said: Bozzzz said: Old phones can last a month How do you know it was turned on all the time? No network = longer battery life Not convinced it's been a month Are you seriously going through this again? First off, how old are you? Have you ever handled actual older generation phones? Or are you taking things out of thin air again like some are doing? 1.) Old flip phones if in regular use (meaning they will be on stand by mode, but if turned on all the time) will last between 3 Days to about a week with no recharging on a full battery. It's ridiculous for anyone to suggest that old phone batteries would last a month with constant regular use. Even whilst turned off completely the phone will continue to draw on the battery to maintain certain internal functions like the clock and alarm settings. 2.) We don't know if the phone was turned on all the time, but we do know that Subaru takes the phone out on occasion to show its functions to people. This is basically the source of the entire discussion: Whether an old phone with little usage that is turned off on occasions is actually able to last for a month without battery recharge. This makes your first claimed sentence look quite silly if you ask me, since you don't even seem to be aware of the discussion and yet butt your opinion in anyway. So far, just one person here with actual experience with phones of that era has claimed it can, though given he seems to be from the military I would bet their equipment were more properly maintained than your average Joe's phone. 3.) Not sure that's been scientifically proven, but it sounds plausible. The question is, how long would it add to a phone that was on? From a one week battery life to say 10 days? For sure a phone without network that was turned on the entire time wouldn't last you more than two weeks. I've done plenty of simulations with old Nokia phones without sim cards turned on for the entirety of a two week period, the phone ran out of juice before my business trip was over and I was forced to recharge it to keep using it. There's also the issue of just how long he's had the phone and whether he's been properly maintaining the phone, because if he's had the phone for several years, the battery might not work as well as a new battery, which would also shave time off the battery charge. 4.) Plenty of LN readers have already confirmed about the time frame. It was a month when Reinhard said so at the election. It's been a month since he picked up Felt in the slums was what was said. The discussion was how much time has passed between the elections and where we are currently at, and the viability of the phone still working as of this time. Perhaps you should get your facts straight before butting in on others discussions OK, I've never had a flip phone but I've had different Nokias. Las non-smartphone was some late 90s model that had color display (the display was smaller than that of the flipphone but as the phone wasn't used most of the time, that doesn't matter). It lasted over a week when used moderatelly and when I bought a new phone, it was lying around and the battery lasted at least 3 weeks but I think it was over a month. It was over 2 years old then (so battery was not new) and didn't have SIM in it (so no network). But Nokias were known for long battery life. Just saying it's plausible and doesn't need that much hate that Subarus phone works. |
Bozzzz said: OK, I've never had a flip phone but I've had different Nokias. Las non-smartphone was some late 90s model that had color display (the display was smaller than that of the flipphone but as the phone wasn't used most of the time, that doesn't matter). It lasted over a week when used moderatelly and when I bought a new phone, it was lying around and the battery lasted at least 3 weeks but I think it was over a month. It was over 2 years old then (so battery was not new) and didn't have SIM in it (so no network). But Nokias were known for long battery life. Just saying it's plausible and doesn't need that much hate that Subarus phone works. Yes, Nokia's were known for a lot of good things. They were the ultimate killing machine being so durable, so sturdy and so impossible to disconnect. My uncle once dropped his Nokia into three pieces when taking a call from my aunt, put the phone back together and my aunt's call was still on the line. But for one, I doubt Subaru would be using a Nokia, and for another.... please see below... http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6101-1044.php The site in the above link is where I found phone specs for flip phones dating back from 2003 when the first Clam Shells were introduced. For fairness' sake, I've gone through a bunch of those flip phones that could be found on the page. The Nokia 6101 is one of the later end flip phones before they went out of style (in around 2005). Best standby time I've found thus far for flip phones has been 350 hours, roughly 15 days (2 weeks). Most of these phones have also been discontinued. So considering all this, the possibility that Subaru's phone being pretty old (almost a decade old) that he's had for quite some time is quite high. This would mean his battery wouldn't be as good as those when he first bought it. The alternative would be that the setting of the story was back around 2006 when those phones were in optimal condition. Again, is there any indication of what year it was before Subaru was transported to the new world? I would assume that it was around the time the author first started writing his story, so around 2012? Would LN readers have any input for this? In all of this discussion, there was never any hate regarding his phone, just questions about the viability of it happening. Please don't mistake a discussion on technical viability as hate for the show. I personally love most of this show's characters and the intriguing story of this alternative world. Willheim's story thus far has been the most interesting of the arc. I have a personal dislike for Subaru's attitude and the things he tends to do, but that doesn't mean I hate the show as a whole because of that. The fact that the author punishes him for his mistakes and slights is pretty fun to watch. |
L-RyoshiAug 14, 2016 4:18 AM
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| cant wait to see the battle against the white whale next episode. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Bozzzz said: OK, I've never had a flip phone but I've had different Nokias. Las non-smartphone was some late 90s model that had color display (the display was smaller than that of the flipphone but as the phone wasn't used most of the time, that doesn't matter). It lasted over a week when used moderatelly and when I bought a new phone, it was lying around and the battery lasted at least 3 weeks but I think it was over a month. It was over 2 years old then (so battery was not new) and didn't have SIM in it (so no network). But Nokias were known for long battery life. Just saying it's plausible and doesn't need that much hate that Subarus phone works. Yes, Nokia's were known for a lot of good things. They were the ultimate killing machine being so durable, so sturdy and so impossible to disconnect. My uncle once dropped his Nokia into three pieces when taking a call from my aunt, put the phone back together and my aunt's call was still on the line. But for one, I doubt Subaru would be using a Nokia, and for another.... please see below... http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6101-1044.php The site in the above link is where I found phone specs for flip phones dating back from 2003 when the first Clam Shells were introduced. For fairness' sake, I've gone through a bunch of those flip phones that could be found on the page. The Nokia 6101 is one of the later end flip phones before they went out of style (in around 2005). Best standby time I've found thus far for flip phones has been 350 hours, roughly 15 days (2 weeks). Most of these phones have also been discontinued. So considering all this, the possibility that Subaru's phone being pretty old (almost a decade old) that he's had for quite some time is quite high. This would mean his battery wouldn't be as good as those when he first bought it. The alternative would be that the setting of the story was back around 2006 when those phones were in optimal condition. Again, is there any indication of what year it was before Subaru was transported to the new world? I would assume that it was around the time the author first started writing his story, so around 2012? Would LN readers have any input for this? In all of this discussion, there was never any hate regarding his phone, just questions about the viability of it happening. Please don't mistake a discussion on technical viability as hate for the show. I personally love most of this show's characters and the intriguing story of this alternative world. Willheim's story thus far has been the most interesting of the arc. I have a personal dislike for Subaru's attitude and the things he tends to do, but that doesn't mean I hate the show as a whole because of that. The fact that the author punishes him for his mistakes and slights is pretty fun to watch. Good point about when it takes place. I'd be interested in it too. Anyone got a hint to this from LN? The hate part wasn't directed at you. Just some comments pissed me of. 1 in this thread was that the battery life ruined the show (wtf, 1 thing ruins it?) and then there were these comments that battery won't last over a day from 19&younger people. |
L-Ryoshi said: Buck_Wade said: Ah, but you are forgetting that the time in the fantasy world Subaru's in most likely moves at a different rate than the one on Earth. Like, maybe an hour on Earth is equivalent to ten hours in the fantasy world. It was night time when Subaru was transported into a fantasy world that was in day time. You say likely, but there's no proof of that. That's just pure speculation on your part. It was night time when he was transported, yes. That would explain why it was night when he encounters the whale but his phone read 15:13, 3:13pm. Again that would only make sense if his phones clock was working at a similar system in the fantasy world as our 24 hour one. Across the Earth, timezones are different. In America, if it's daylight, it's basically nighttime in Turkey. Re: Zero takes place in a fantasy world where, from what we can speculate, is clearly on a different zone than Earth's. It really can be speculated that time moves at a different pace there than on Earth, which is probably the rate at which the cellphone moves along with. |
L-Ryoshi said: Bozzzz said: OK, I've never had a flip phone but I've had different Nokias. Las non-smartphone was some late 90s model that had color display (the display was smaller than that of the flipphone but as the phone wasn't used most of the time, that doesn't matter). It lasted over a week when used moderatelly and when I bought a new phone, it was lying around and the battery lasted at least 3 weeks but I think it was over a month. It was over 2 years old then (so battery was not new) and didn't have SIM in it (so no network). But Nokias were known for long battery life. Just saying it's plausible and doesn't need that much hate that Subarus phone works. Yes, Nokia's were known for a lot of good things. They were the ultimate killing machine being so durable, so sturdy and so impossible to disconnect. My uncle once dropped his Nokia into three pieces when taking a call from my aunt, put the phone back together and my aunt's call was still on the line. But for one, I doubt Subaru would be using a Nokia, and for another.... please see below... http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6101-1044.php The site in the above link is where I found phone specs for flip phones dating back from 2003 when the first Clam Shells were introduced. For fairness' sake, I've gone through a bunch of those flip phones that could be found on the page. The Nokia 6101 is one of the later end flip phones before they went out of style (in around 2005). Best standby time I've found thus far for flip phones has been 350 hours, roughly 15 days (2 weeks). Most of these phones have also been discontinued. So considering all this, the possibility that Subaru's phone being pretty old (almost a decade old) that he's had for quite some time is quite high. This would mean his battery wouldn't be as good as those when he first bought it. The alternative would be that the setting of the story was back around 2006 when those phones were in optimal condition. Again, is there any indication of what year it was before Subaru was transported to the new world? I would assume that it was around the time the author first started writing his story, so around 2012? Would LN readers have any input for this? In all of this discussion, there was never any hate regarding his phone, just questions about the viability of it happening. Please don't mistake a discussion on technical viability as hate for the show. I personally love most of this show's characters and the intriguing story of this alternative world. Willheim's story thus far has been the most interesting of the arc. I have a personal dislike for Subaru's attitude and the things he tends to do, but that doesn't mean I hate the show as a whole because of that. The fact that the author punishes him for his mistakes and slights is pretty fun to watch. You're a sadist, bro. |
Buck_Wade said: L-Ryoshi said: Yes, Nokia's were known for a lot of good things. They were the ultimate killing machine being so durable, so sturdy and so impossible to disconnect. My uncle once dropped his Nokia into three pieces when taking a call from my aunt, put the phone back together and my aunt's call was still on the line. But for one, I doubt Subaru would be using a Nokia, and for another.... please see below... http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_6101-1044.php The site in the above link is where I found phone specs for flip phones dating back from 2003 when the first Clam Shells were introduced. For fairness' sake, I've gone through a bunch of those flip phones that could be found on the page. The Nokia 6101 is one of the later end flip phones before they went out of style (in around 2005). Best standby time I've found thus far for flip phones has been 350 hours, roughly 15 days (2 weeks). Most of these phones have also been discontinued. So considering all this, the possibility that Subaru's phone being pretty old (almost a decade old) that he's had for quite some time is quite high. This would mean his battery wouldn't be as good as those when he first bought it. The alternative would be that the setting of the story was back around 2006 when those phones were in optimal condition. Again, is there any indication of what year it was before Subaru was transported to the new world? I would assume that it was around the time the author first started writing his story, so around 2012? Would LN readers have any input for this? In all of this discussion, there was never any hate regarding his phone, just questions about the viability of it happening. Please don't mistake a discussion on technical viability as hate for the show. I personally love most of this show's characters and the intriguing story of this alternative world. Willheim's story thus far has been the most interesting of the arc. I have a personal dislike for Subaru's attitude and the things he tends to do, but that doesn't mean I hate the show as a whole because of that. The fact that the author punishes him for his mistakes and slights is pretty fun to watch. You're a sadist, bro. Not exactly. I'm a realist. I don't believe in sudden inexplicable power ups (my biggest complaint about Macross Delta's MC), nor do I like it when characters get away with being arses without punishment. If you are trying to make a show that's somehow "real", then people getting away with doing dumb shit doesn't sit well with me. If you fuck up, you own up to the consequences, that's how I see things. |
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L-Ryoshi said: Not exactly. I'm a realist. I don't believe in sudden inexplicable power ups (my biggest complaint about Macross Delta's MC), nor do I like it when characters get away with being arses without punishment. If you are trying to make a show that's somehow "real", then people getting away with doing dumb shit doesn't sit well with me. If you fuck up, you own up to the consequences, that's how I see things. I know, I know, I just built my joke on the, "is pretty fun to watch" part. But thankfully while Subaru was going on an emotional rampage, he did learn all the things needed to prevent the massacre...even if getting betrayed by Puck did fuck him up a bit. |
| perfect episode. and another reason why stupid soubaru should have chosen rem |
| It's nice to have an episode I'm not crazy about, if nothing else to see that I've not become blind to the shows flaws. Still this episode was far from bad in my opinion. It just had the unenviable task of following up the emotional resonance of last week, with set up for the big finale/showdown. And it did it pretty engagingly. After Subaru a few episodes back was scrambling and ultimately failed to sway the other candidates into helping him here he manages to pull it off. It was solid writing that he did so using his increased knowledge of the situation and his position within it from past experience. The show continues to make the most of its time traveling premise. After the exciting meeting that opens the episode, iwe see Subaru join with Crusch and Anastasia to try and bring down the White Whale. I don't fault the show for needing to build tension and set all this up. But this is where the episode was a little underwhelming by the series usual standards. I liked the larger than life wolf man warrior but it doesn't change the fact most of the second half of the episode is in that one big hall. And we'll see what they do with it, but so far not very interested in old butler mans dead wife or his old dude brigade that's shown up. Any complaints of slow pacing I had are put to bed by that nail biting closing scene. I thought the whale was cool when he first showed up and we barely saw him. Less sure now that we see him up close and personal. But that was an effective piece of tension, especially with the added possibility Subaru's plan might fail and it won't even show up. Excited for next week as always. |
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| EU ODEIO SUBARU PQP SO FAZ MERDA |
| this episode was a build up to fighting the white whale, i hope subaru will be useful this time than be a decoy. I know Rem is gonna shine as always. |
How I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb --- Dr Strangelove  |
| I seriously thought the episode would end with no whale showing up, and then Subaru dying on the inside |
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| The final scene reminded me why this anime is head over heels the best one airing right now. So good, them epic feels. :,) |
| Wow that ending when the cellphone music was playinng gave me goose bumps |
| Subaru learned how to do business, finally! I hope it works this time... |
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| Good episode, I find the buildup for the next episode really nice. That last part was thrilling I guess? 5/5 |
| Loved the ringtone when the whale appeared XDD. Well I still kinda dislike the green haired girl (idk her name). She acts way too full of herself and almost shit her pantsu when she saw the whale AYY. Decent episode. |
| Shit is about to go down! |
| He finally got the deal... but did he even say what he wanted in return? I knew it was going to end with a cliffhanger... |
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| Lol at ringtone. Great character improvment for Subaru. (Rem helped a lot for this. Best girl.) |
| Subaru finally back on the right track, good to see him finally acknowledge his own weakness! Negotiations finally went well although I'm a bit surprised Crusch believed the part with the mines since I don't think Subaru has authority over that. Crusch was pretty awesome with that speech before departing, nice outfit too. Really liking Wilhelm's character, that fist bump was pretty nice. Rem with the dragon was funny :D ...and another cute moment with Subaru and Rem in front of the tree :3 Really nice touch with the ringtone at the end. For a second I thought the whale wouldn't show up. Subaru's charge at the end with Rem was really great, looking forward to the battle! |
nerfxSep 15, 2016 3:22 PM
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| i thought the whale erased memories related to the ones it ate? well it didnt eat them an just killed them? not sure what to think anyways i usually dont enjoy fights against giant beasts but this one might be a cool one |
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| He sure is in luck that that whale actually came! The next episode sure is going to be an intense one! All in all the general feeling of the episode was restored again, so that's good! Let's see what's next. |
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| Maybe this have been answered but i don t wanna check all the discussion pages it s insane.. Btw the white wale.. why noone remember rem or the other people in ep 15 and now the knights clearly remember their parents or friends? (Wilhelm remember his wife) can anyone explain? or is this a spoiler? |
 xD That phone alarm in the end was creepy xD I like the new Crush look :) Another strong woman (as I think xD). And I like her ability to detect a lie xD Very usefull... So sad history of Wilhelm's wifu :( |
| Rem should be more worried about Emilia taking her man, instead of some oversized lizard... Crusch for best girl! |
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| I really hope that the next episode isn't going to be some corny triumphant fight against evil monster. There's more to the white whale and to me it felt kinda sad figure. This show kinda has the problem with mood swings. |
| WHAT A GREAT EPISODE !!! GLAD IT'S WORKING OUT :) |
 張大です for 張大勇督察 |
kingfroggy said: Maybe this have been answered but i don t wanna check all the discussion pages it s insane.. Btw the white wale.. why noone remember rem or the other people in ep 15 and now the knights clearly remember their parents or friends? (Wilhelm remember his wife) can anyone explain? or is this a spoiler? I found that odd as well but I'm assuming you'd have to be eaten by it for the effect to take place. Wilhelm's wife was buried which means she wasn't eaten which would prove this theory. |
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| I fucking hate Subaru. Whatever man. I'm not getting over that. |
| Just need to find out how to quote this every time so I can dodge the stupid 30-character limit. |
| Rem vs. the ground dragon, only one obvious winner lel Good to see Subaru's alright again. What would he do without the best girl of all best girls?! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Episode 19: Great episode, that ringtone was amazing for the episode, and like some one say: "According to Tappei's twitter(the author), the staff put a lot of effort into the ringtone. They argued a lot about the choice of ringtone before deciding which one to use. They even went to search for a handphone model similar to Subaru's, composed the ringtone melody on it, then brought the phone to the studio and recorded the ringtone by placing it at the mic, then finally put it in the episode.'' from reddit that is the dedication of the staff. Rem and his rivalry with the dinosaur was great. And finally Subaru gets an alliance, doing a good negation with the previous earned experience. 5/5 |
| Return of the best Subaru version!!!! |
| This was excellent the intensity before a fight, the nervousness of fighting a enemy fully equipped and full of confidence. This is something I can enjoy. |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| Since when this show turned into Moby Dick? But, seriously, awesome episode. Not a single fucked up thing happened at all, which surprised me. |
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| he suddenly became super-intelligent! Sorry, how is that even believable :x. Almso, they were preparing so many soldiers without having a clue at all about the whale? Then does that mean that it had a huge chance to be useless? Someone as cautious as her spent that much money and preparation without knowing the chance of even being able to put the plan in motion? really? Oh, so the former sword saint was his wife. Wait you're doing the speech to galvanise troops before departing rather than before fighting? I like those 2 chibi. Can't we make them main characters? with the white aired widower. let's discard Subaru instead. We need to keep emilia because Puck. Oh the whale as a thing on the head, like an angel's halo. |
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| this episode was slightly better than the horror that was before it |
| I thought the whale wouldn't come and right there and then surrounded by fully armed men out for blood in the middle of a desert in a moonlit night... Subaru would yell at the top of his lungs, "IT'S JUST A PRANK BRO!!" |
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| Hm, if the White Whale killed old man Astrea's wife, shouldn't she have been erased from existence and his memory, or am I missing something here? In fact, not anybody should be able to remember any of the people the White Whale has killed all this time. (Come to think of it, it's rather strange why only Subaru could remember Rem after she was killed by it...) |
| Ahn, it was very nice to have a feel-good episode after all of these depressing ones. I mean, don't get me wrong, I love the psychological and mental torture aspects. But this one where progress was made, relationships were built...and I got to see the very attractive Crusch-sama's character develop....was really lifting of spirits. ^_^ No, but oh my god, she is just so attractive. If this picture doesn't make your day, I don't know what will:  |
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