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Nov 27, 2016 1:03 PM
#1
Or do you just go with what the fansubbers did and your player defaults? How do you style them? I noticed today that MPC lets you override custom subs with your defaults. I'll probably keep that option on. The only problem is that the stylized secondary subs are slightly higher up now. I wonder if there is a way to fix that without changing the position of the regular subs. Probably not. Some fansubbers keep the subs almost at the edge of the picture and use the whole width. I like mine more narrow (almost as if it the picture were 4:3) and further from the bottom, so that my eyes don't have to move as much and I miss less of what's going on. I prefer a style that's ordinary and not bold. I'm using a white that's slightly grey. Subs by niizk: My defaults: Pictures are welcome. They might give me some ideas. |
Nov 27, 2016 1:22 PM
#2
I use the standard subs normally. But I do find bold subs pretty annoying. shouldn't this be in tech support or somehting? |
Nov 27, 2016 1:28 PM
#3
I just go with what fansubbers did... Don't know how to customized it nor bother to learn it.... |
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Nov 27, 2016 1:28 PM
#4
I use SubtitleEdit to change them, but only when the subs are unbearable. Thankfully, this doesn't happen often as it's a pain in the ass to do this for longer series. I just copy the style from other subs I like. |
Nov 27, 2016 1:30 PM
#6
Nov 27, 2016 3:16 PM
#7
Daiz wrote a blog post about this awhile back. Ezekiel said: If it were the old days (late 00s or so) when typesetting and karaoke were hardsubbed but dialogue was softsubbed, it might've been possible to do that fix. But in this era of softsubbed everything, I figure it's too risky to set wide-reaching overrides that'll mess with text typesetting. I do agree on keeping subs off the very bottom of the screen and away from the far edges, though I do prefer bold subs as they're easier to read and incur less interference from the imagery around them. Official disc subs also follow the practices of keeping subs raised a bit, and use linebreaks to turn one long screen-spanning line of text into two shorter lines in the middle for the same reason you described: it minimizes scanning movement and eye fatigue, making it easier to concentrate on the core areas of the screen. I follow similar philosophies for the subs I create: vertical margins at 5% of the video height, and horizontal margins at 7.5% of the video width, along with some hard linebreaks at strategic points.I wonder if there is a way to fix that without changing the position of the regular subs. Probably not. Some fansubbers keep the subs almost at the edge of the picture and use the whole width. I like mine more narrow (almost as if it the picture were 4:3) and further from the bottom, so that my eyes don't have to move as much and I miss less of what's going on. I prefer a style that's ordinary and not bold. Most recent fansubs are pretty good about using readable fonts with good horizontal and vertical margins. I do find myself upping the horizontal margins from time to time, but things aren't as bad as they used to be in the mid/late-00s when subbers just picked a font and left all the margins as the 10-pixel defaults. Or worse, some groups actually decreased those margins. |
Nov 27, 2016 3:23 PM
#8
HaXXspetten said: I care about the translation quality, not so much the font though.. Pretty much this.Unless they change the very colour of subs it ok for me. |
Nov 27, 2016 7:13 PM
#9
Zalis said: Daiz wrote a blog post about this awhile back. Ezekiel said: If it were the old days (late 00s or so) when typesetting and karaoke were hardsubbed but dialogue was softsubbed, it might've been possible to do that fix. But in this era of softsubbed everything, I figure it's too risky to set wide-reaching overrides that'll mess with text typesetting. I do agree on keeping subs off the very bottom of the screen and away from the far edges, though I do prefer bold subs as they're easier to read and incur less interference from the imagery around them. Official disc subs also follow the practices of keeping subs raised a bit, and use linebreaks to turn one long screen-spanning line of text into two shorter lines in the middle for the same reason you described: it minimizes scanning movement and eye fatigue, making it easier to concentrate on the core areas of the screen. I follow similar philosophies for the subs I create: vertical margins at 5% of the video height, and horizontal margins at 7.5% of the video width, along with some hard linebreaks at strategic points.I wonder if there is a way to fix that without changing the position of the regular subs. Probably not. Some fansubbers keep the subs almost at the edge of the picture and use the whole width. I like mine more narrow (almost as if it the picture were 4:3) and further from the bottom, so that my eyes don't have to move as much and I miss less of what's going on. I prefer a style that's ordinary and not bold. Most recent fansubs are pretty good about using readable fonts with good horizontal and vertical margins. I do find myself upping the horizontal margins from time to time, but things aren't as bad as they used to be in the mid/late-00s when subbers just picked a font and left all the margins as the 10-pixel defaults. Or worse, some groups actually decreased those margins. Yeah, official subbers are usually pretty good about this. I would prefer the subs for signs to simply be placed on the top or bottom when possible, rather than on the object. Thanks for the link. It was pretty specific, reiterated a lot of what I thought and made me wanna edit my own blog post, mostly using my previous forum posts. I noticed my subs in that example up there were too small, so I switched from size 16 to 18. |
EzekielNov 27, 2016 9:21 PM
Nov 27, 2016 7:39 PM
#10
Regular boring white subtitles. I don't care about that stuff. |
Nov 27, 2016 7:48 PM
#11
Nov 27, 2016 8:05 PM
#12
I use kissanime so I just use the subs they have. I have better things to do than bother with subs. |
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Nov 27, 2016 8:28 PM
#14
I watch online so nah, I don't change them or anything. |
Nov 27, 2016 8:36 PM
#15
whotf even knew you could customize them lol? |
Nov 27, 2016 8:46 PM
#16
my font is bold yellow comic sans(yeah I watch tarkovsky with that :v), the position probably almost the same like ur. If it .ass or just softsub but with fansub's customization, I'll probably change the setting so I can see their version. mainly the reason if my customize's default will scattered the notes, the like gintama have lot of it. I don't like Hardsub, actually, becoz it hit and miss. sometimes the position and the font is akward or formal, and the size is too big, or the like some streaming site from local native, most the translation is so godamnfull. |
Nov 28, 2016 12:56 AM
#17
I like to go with whatever the fansub group does. However, when they haven't customised the text it would be nice to set a better default. Also your font is insanely shit. I'm glad I don't have to read that. Your eyes will thank you if you find a slightly thicker font. |
Nov 28, 2016 1:16 AM
#18
Nov 28, 2016 1:20 AM
#19
I just increase the size when I'm watching on my TV. |
Nov 28, 2016 6:35 AM
#20
I guess I should have replied to this before someone moved it. I found it more fitting in the anime section, since it also has to do with fansubs. I'm annoyed that mods don't even ask or warn. Tensho said: You mean, when the color of the text mixes with the picture? I'm still trying to figure that out, playing around with different outline widths and primary colors.scene bleeds |
EzekielNov 28, 2016 9:35 AM
Nov 28, 2016 7:00 PM
#21
Ezekiel said: nah it's related to the timing of the subs. If a line ends when a scene change happens or close to it, then the subs should just change at the same time so you don't have subtitles that "bleed" into the next scene. Tensho said: You mean, when the color of the text mixes with the picture? I'm still trying to figure that out, playing around with different outline widths and primary colors.scene bleeds Basically you want a light primary colour with a dark outline and a somewhat thick font that's readable and not awful looking. Shadows are usually small with transparency and your borders might be something like >=1.5 but it all depends on your font and heck you're the only one watching it so really whatever looks nice to you comes before anything else. |
Nov 28, 2016 8:36 PM
#22
Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... |
Nov 28, 2016 10:45 PM
#23
Nov 29, 2016 11:46 AM
#24
nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly |
Nov 29, 2016 12:08 PM
#25
sometimes, when i feel like it: >get Japanese subs >get a fansub > sync Japanese subs so it matches the timing in fansub > make additional changes as the timing might still be off >enjoy the series with Japanese subs sometimes the one transcribing even go so far as transcribe the insert song lyrics, which is great. |
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Nov 29, 2016 1:56 PM
#26
j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... |
Nov 29, 2016 2:30 PM
#27
_Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet |
Nov 29, 2016 2:31 PM
#28
j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? |
Nov 29, 2016 2:35 PM
#29
_Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know |
Nov 29, 2016 2:36 PM
#30
@Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know Yeah, I know how better VLC is in terms of quality, and there's less glitches and lags in VLC... But... Why doesn't VLC have this yet? xD |
Nov 29, 2016 2:44 PM
#31
_Ako_ said: @Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know Yeah, I know how better VLC is in terms of quality, and there's less glitches and lags in VLC... But... Why doesn't VLC have this yet? xD i got no idea, there is a request to add that technology here Request: override .ass subtitles style https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/3798 |
Nov 29, 2016 2:46 PM
#32
j0x said: _Ako_ said: @Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know Yeah, I know how better VLC is in terms of quality, and there's less glitches and lags in VLC... But... Why doesn't VLC have this yet? xD i got no idea, there is a request to add that technology here Request: override .ass subtitles style https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/3798 Dude, as I can tell, that was 6 years ago... xD It has been that long and they haven't approved of it, meaning VLC doesn't give a fuck about it... xD |
Nov 29, 2016 4:06 PM
#34
_Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: @Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know Yeah, I know how better VLC is in terms of quality, and there's less glitches and lags in VLC... But... Why doesn't VLC have this yet? xD i got no idea, there is a request to add that technology here Request: override .ass subtitles style https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/3798 Dude, as I can tell, that was 6 years ago... xD It has been that long and they haven't approved of it, meaning VLC doesn't give a fuck about it... xD yep thats the nature of open source the programmers will only add what they want and not want the users want |
Nov 29, 2016 4:38 PM
#35
j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: @Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: _Ako_ said: j0x said: nah i do not customize my subtitles, i prefer the fansubs subtitles styling _Ako_ said: Now that we're on it... I am using VLC as my default player, and when then this came to play: If someone can help me to at least make the subs bigger without destroying its orientation, it would really be helpful... Thank you in advance... VLC cannot change advance subtitles like ASS/SSA or even bitmap subtitles (vobsubs) so you have to manually extract the subtitle to the video container then edit the subtitles with a text editor or aegisub then remux the subtitles with the video and audio again or maybe change your media player like to Media Player Classic but im not sure if it can change the advance subs accordingly Senpai... is there a easy way, instead of changing player? I mea VLC is the dope... none dude, that technology is not available on VLC yet Arrrggghhhhh.... So, how would I do it in MPC-HC then? i got no idea since i only use VLC too, try asking OP since he use MPC-HC as far as i know Yeah, I know how better VLC is in terms of quality, and there's less glitches and lags in VLC... But... Why doesn't VLC have this yet? xD i got no idea, there is a request to add that technology here Request: override .ass subtitles style https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/3798 Dude, as I can tell, that was 6 years ago... xD It has been that long and they haven't approved of it, meaning VLC doesn't give a fuck about it... xD yep thats the nature of open source the programmers will only add what they want and not want the users want But still, VLC> MPC-HC But, yeah, that subtitle problem was quite a toll for my watching experience... xD I had to pause from time to time... xD |
Nov 29, 2016 5:39 PM
#36
_Ako_ said: Not sure where that came from, but I just finished anyway. @Ezekiel Dude, stop fapping.... how do I change the size of the subs in MPC-HC? Thanks in advance... Font sizes can be changed in Options > Subtitles > Font > Size. Unless, possibly, you're using an external renderer, like xy-VSFilter, which I've never been able to get working. _Ako_ said: Why?But still, VLC> MPC-HC |
Nov 29, 2016 5:46 PM
#37
Because MPC-HC have a shitty video quality. I don't know if it's the encoder's fault, but I've tried MPC-HC and the video lags or stuff happens in-between. The opposite in VLC... |
Nov 29, 2016 5:51 PM
#38
_Ako_ said: The only problems I experience are black pictures when going into fullscreen, requiring me to sometimes go fullscreen a second time, and videos sometimes not playing when going to the next one. I can keep multiple Full HD videos open without lag. But I have a pretty good PC. The picture looks much better and renders quicker than in VLC.Because MPC-HC have a shitty video quality. I don't know if it's the encoder's fault, but I've tried MPC-HC and the video lags or stuff happens in-between. The opposite in VLC... |
EzekielNov 29, 2016 5:54 PM
Nov 29, 2016 5:58 PM
#39
Ezekiel said: _Ako_ said: The only problems I experience are black pictures when going into fullscreen, requiring me to sometimes go fullscreen a second time, and videos sometimes not playing when going to the next one. I can keep multiple Full HD videos open without lag. But I have a pretty good PC. The picture looks much better than VLC.Because MPC-HC have a shitty video quality. I don't know if it's the encoder's fault, but I've tried MPC-HC and the video lags or stuff happens in-between. The opposite in VLC... My laptop is the shittiest you could have, if you know me, my laptop can't even play RuneScape, I mean can't even run it properly, that's how shitty mine is. I don't have problems about stuff like, which is better, since in my eyes it is probably all the same, if the encoder did his job. And, that is the same I have experienced on MPC-HC, lags on fullscreen, and slow to start. VLC is much efficient in that, I find VLC's audio, is at least superior to MPC-HC. But if you really like having a better video, I'd throw you DivX... xD Well in anyway case, the subtitle font didn't work, so I'll just stick with VLC... |
Nov 29, 2016 6:07 PM
#40
_Ako_ said: Ezekiel said: _Ako_ said: Because MPC-HC have a shitty video quality. I don't know if it's the encoder's fault, but I've tried MPC-HC and the video lags or stuff happens in-between. The opposite in VLC... My laptop is the shittiest you could have, if you know me, my laptop can't even play RuneScape, I mean can't even run it properly, that's how shitty mine is. I don't have problems about stuff like, which is better, since in my eyes it is probably all the same, if the encoder did his job. And, that is the same I have experienced on MPC-HC, lags on fullscreen, and slow to start. VLC is much efficient in that, I find VLC's audio, is at least superior to MPC-HC. But if you really like having a better video, I'd throw you DivX... xD Well in anyway case, the subtitle font didn't work, so I'll just stick with VLC... In my case, it isn't lag that's causing those issues, though. Those aren't symptoms of lag. There's some other cause that I've never been able to figure out. The subtitle font probably didn't work because you haven't gone right click > Subtitle Track > Default Style. Or (unlikely) your subs are images instead of text. |
Nov 29, 2016 6:10 PM
#41
Ezekiel said: _Ako_ said: Ezekiel said: _Ako_ said: The only problems I experience are black pictures when going into fullscreen, requiring me to sometimes go fullscreen a second time, and videos sometimes not playing when going to the next one. I can keep multiple Full HD videos open without lag. But I have a pretty good PC. The picture looks much better than VLC.Because MPC-HC have a shitty video quality. I don't know if it's the encoder's fault, but I've tried MPC-HC and the video lags or stuff happens in-between. The opposite in VLC... My laptop is the shittiest you could have, if you know me, my laptop can't even play RuneScape, I mean can't even run it properly, that's how shitty mine is. I don't have problems about stuff like, which is better, since in my eyes it is probably all the same, if the encoder did his job. And, that is the same I have experienced on MPC-HC, lags on fullscreen, and slow to start. VLC is much efficient in that, I find VLC's audio, is at least superior to MPC-HC. But if you really like having a better video, I'd throw you DivX... xD Well in anyway case, the subtitle font didn't work, so I'll just stick with VLC... In my case, it isn't lag that's causing those issues, though. Those aren't symptoms of lag. There's some other cause that I've never been able to figure out. The subtitle font probably didn't work because you haven't gone right click > Subtitle Track > Default Style. Or (unlikely) your subs are images instead of text. Mhhhh.... I clicked the S.T and choose the Default, what I just changed is the size. But it still didn't appear at it should be. Well, if it ain't working, I'll just forget about it... Thanks for the help though... |
Nov 30, 2016 2:41 PM
#42
I prefer to go with whatever sub style the fansubber used. |
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