| Lolis are primarily underage anime girls, often quite cute and thus a proponent of moe culture. The major question posed by the community is whether it is okay to sexualise them. What comes to my attention if you're indeed a paedophile for being attracted to fictional children. Television shows, to an extent, try to make things as real as they could be. Is there a distinction between liking real life little girls and fictional ones? Would getting off to fictional girls be considered dangerous? Should THIS be allowed? Does it encourage any type of bad behaviour? Is it perfectly fine? Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace? Then, of course, one must ask about the "legal loli." These legal lolis appear physically young, when in fact they are quite old and well passed the age of consent. Does the difference in age somehow make it justifiable to sexualise these lolis? Is ecchi to blame for lolis being sexualized? Better yet, is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia given the fact so many titles sexualize underage girls, lolis or not? Are they still innocent when you are seeing them constantly in indecent situation? By extent, if you are a lolicon, can you look at a real life child without thinking lewd thoughts? if yes, have you ever question yourself whether you lie to yourself or not? Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? Discuss. EDIT: I'll add this question asked by user JkayW a few posts below here. |
KofrineJun 19, 2016 4:39 AM
| Loli = Cute = Moe = Anime Moe saved Anime and Lolis are the reason why Anime exists. Deal with it. |
| Wall of text about lolis and pedo, why you're trying so hard? |
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| All I gotta say is if you're kickin it with the lolis, you BETTER be a 2D complex. If not then it borders upon closet pedophile type behavior. In a nutshell 2D complex = good, IRL little girls = you better see a shrink dood !! |
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| REAL TALK ALERT If it's okay to imagine screwing a fictional loli... Then what about a baby? |
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hoopla123 said: there are more questions that pointed you, care to answer them all?Loli = Cute = Moe = Anime Moe saved Anime and Lolis are the reason why Anime exists. Deal with it. Thanks. |
| Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? |
DeknijffJun 19, 2016 5:09 AM
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| @Deknijff @JkayW At least have the curtesy to put it under spoiler. |
zalJun 19, 2016 5:13 AM
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Deknijff said: Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man what about a baby then? you mean just because it's fiction everything should always be fine? [img*]http://anime-sk.ru/wp-content/uploads/69.-Kodomo-no-Jikan-17.jpg[/img] Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? |
| Is there a distinction between liking real life little girls and fictional ones? yes Would getting off to fictional girls be considered dangerous? no Should THIS be allowed? yes Does it encourage any type of bad behaviour? no Is it perfectly fine? yes Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace? this is one of those things it's wise not to let other people know Does the difference in age somehow make it justifiable to sexualise these lolis? yes Is ecchi to blame for lolis being sexualized? no Better yet, is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia given the fact so many titles sexualize underage girls, lolis or not? no Are they still innocent when you are seeing them constantly in indecent situation? yes By extent, if you are a lolicon, can you look at a real life child without thinking lewd thoughts? yes if yes, have you ever question yourself whether you lie to yourself or not? define lie to yourself Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? yes. dae le hyperreality? |
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JkayW said: These are the real questions we must ask ourselvesREAL TALK ALERT If it's okay to imagine screwing a fictional loli... Then what about a baby? |
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Ohhh boy, another loli thread, I'll bring the popcorn for everybody! |
romagia said: you've been since 2013 you should know discussion isn't just a question and answer. Is there a distinction between liking real life little girls and fictional ones? yes Would getting off to fictional girls be considered dangerous? no Should THIS be allowed? yes Does it encourage any type of bad behaviour? no Is it perfectly fine? yes Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace? this is one of those things it's wise not to let other people know Does the difference in age somehow make it justifiable to sexualise these lolis? yes Is ecchi to blame for lolis being sexualized? no Better yet, is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia given the fact so many titles sexualize underage girls, lolis or not? no Are they still innocent when you are seeing them constantly in indecent situation? yes By extent, if you are a lolicon, can you look at a real life child without thinking lewd thoughts? yes if yes, have you ever question yourself whether you lie to yourself or not? define lie to yourself Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? yes So, care to explain your answer more? Thanks. |
hoopla123 said: Loli = Cute = Moe = Anime Moe saved Anime and Lolis are the reason why Anime exists. Deal with it. Nah, Astro Boy is the reason anime exists and Astro Boy = shota. Therefore shota is the reason why anime exists. |
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Deknijff said: No and you know what I meant, too inappropriate.@zal Picture to big? @JkayW Well real children have rights yet don't have the best logical thinking so we need to protect them from potential harm of their image so to say. |
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I hope you realize that i ask this in different manner and not 'for the sake of flame war' manner. I'm talking about borderline of fiction and reality here too. |
JkayW said: Deknijff said: Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man  Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? What's the difference? Fapping to pictures of fictional kids or real kids are both not harming the actual children. They're both pictures and both interpretations of the reality around us. Hehe kodomo no jikan, my ex was kickin it with that :P Kofrine said: Deknijff said: Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man what about a baby then? you mean just because it's fiction everything should always be fine? [img*]http://anime-sk.ru/wp-content/uploads/69.-Kodomo-no-Jikan-17.jpg[/img] Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? I don't think anyone is going to have feelings on a baby character in an anime xD I don't think moe feelings for anime characters affect how you like folks in real life at all. If so then I would have stumbled accross IRL Jounouchi Kazuya or IRL Ryotsu Kankichi by now :P |
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Kofrine said: Deknijff said: what about a baby then? you mean just because it's fiction everything should always be fine?Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man [img*]http://anime-sk.ru/wp-content/uploads/69.-Kodomo-no-Jikan-17.jpg[/img] but will that affect your view point on real word? how do you view kid now? does anything change before and after you seen all these sexualized lolis?Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? I don't view kids any different now from what I used to. I agree with freedom of expression man. If someone wants to make a Hentai about a baby I don't care. It's just a drawing |
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Kofrine said: I hope you realize that i ask this in different manner and not 'for the sake of flame war' manner. I'm talking about borderline of fiction and reality here too. It's impossible for discussions regarding loli to NOT become flame wars, it would have been better to just have a general discussion thread about fiction and reality instead of framing lolicon as the main example. |
| Asking the real questions. Good question mate. I wanna see the replies to this one as well since this also bothers me a bit. |
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OneTrueLolicon said: hoopla123 said: Loli = Cute = Moe = Anime Moe saved Anime and Lolis are the reason why Anime exists. Deal with it. I find it ironic. How one that is absolutely right can be so absolutely wrong. OP: Lolis aren't bad. Flat is justice after all. :3 Careful kiddo. The mods might catch you for being extra naughty =0 |
Deknijff said: But have you ever question yourself whether you lie to yourself or not?Kofrine said: what about a baby then? you mean just because it's fiction everything should always be fine?but will that affect your view point on real word? how do you view kid now? does anything change before and after you seen all these sexualized lolis? I don't view kids any different now from what I used to. I agree with freedom of expression man. If someone wants to make a Hentai about a baby I don't care. It's just a drawing And fiction content message, don't you think your image as something bad for represent children? It doesn't take effect immedaitely but have you ever consider, this kind of view on children will be normal to real world one day? what is your opinion regarding this matter? |
| After looking through this thread, there are some things I should go take care of right this minute: -Take a shower and scrub off the cringe -Look at cute puppy pictures to erase the cringey loli pic from my mind -Lose all hope -Drink some bleach -If the bleach doesn't work then I'll just run in the middle of the freeway |
KonaKoffeeJun 19, 2016 5:09 AM
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| Yes, you are missing the respect for those that want to avoid this kind of images. |
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Lobinde said: Evading it isn't going to solve nor gain anything.Kofrine said: I hope you realize that i ask this in different manner and not 'for the sake of flame war' manner. I'm talking about borderline of fiction and reality here too. It's impossible for discussions regarding loli to NOT become flame wars, it would have been better to just have a general discussion thread about fiction and reality instead of framing lolicon as the main example. Loli is an easy example, if sexualize loli is ok then how about baby? |
KonaKoffee said: After looking through this thread, there are some thing I should go take care of right this minute: -Take a shower and scrub off the cringe -Look at cute puppy pictures to erase the cringey loli pic from my mind -Lose all hope -Drink some bleach -If the bleach doesn't work then I'll just run in the middle of the freeway Remove the part about puppies and lolis, and you just described my morning routine. |
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Bobby2Hands said: Remove the part about puppies and lolis, and you just described my morning routine. *sings a jingle* Best part of waking up, is bleach in your cup I don't want one, you can't make me! *stomps feet* |
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Otaku-Gunso said: i dont know the character of your example, can you make it little more easier?JkayW said: What's the difference? Fapping to pictures of fictional kids or real kids are both not harming the actual children. They're both pictures and both interpretations of the reality around us. Hehe kodomo no jikan, my ex was kickin it with that :P Kofrine said: what about a baby then? you mean just because it's fiction everything should always be fine?but will that affect your view point on real word? how do you view kid now? does anything change before and after you seen all these sexualized lolis? I don't think anyone is going to have feelings on a baby character in an anime xD I don't think moe feelings for anime characters affect how you like folks in real life at all. If so then I would have stumbled accross IRL Jounouchi Kazuya or IRL Ryotsu Kankichi by now :P Thanks. |
| @Kofrine Why would I be lying to myself? I don't think that image is a bad representation of real children because it's not real kids. People can clearly see the difference I don't think using kids for sex will become a mainstream thing in the future honestly. We've advanced past that. |
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Deknijff said: ... How are people finding such pictures attractive? Wow I'm disgusted alreadyAin't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? |
Loliholic said: But does age really matter in drawing? they are draw as 8 years old all the time/most of time.Kofrine said: Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace? In most cases Lolis are between 12 and 14 years old and at the beginning of puberty. Kofrine said: What comes to my attention if you're indeed a paedophile for being attracted to fictional children. Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. (...)criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. |
zal said: They could just not look at it then... Yes, you are missing the respect for those that want to avoid this kind of images. But I could just add a spoiler tag to make you happy considering it's not really a big deal |
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Kofrine said: There isn't much to say about this topic that isn't a yes/no answer to your questions. Some people fap to loli and some don't, some think it's all right, some don't, etc; I dislike this saying, but I don't think it matters that much.you've been since 2013 you should know discussion isn't just a question and answer. So, care to explain your answer more? Thanks. Here are some questions in particular i don't think have much variety in answer: "Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace?" -> Stigma is a pretty vague term, but i think most agree that fapping to cartoon kids won't be universally accepted anytime soon "is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia" -> Lol no; if you associate japanese culture with loli, that says more about you than japanese culture "Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? " -> The wording may not be the best, since if it's just a question of can/cannot, it obviously can; have you never heard or thought a variation of "[fiction] changed my life!"? Klad said: that's exactly what a lolicon would say to hide himself!Deknijff said: ... How are people finding such pictures attractive? Wow I'm disgusted alreadyAin't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man http://anime-sk.ru/wp-content/uploads/69.-Kodomo-no-Jikan-17.jpg Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? |
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romagia said: Lmfao. But Im serious though. Why dont people like MILFs?Kofrine said: There isn't much to say about this topic that isn't a yes/no answer to your questions. Some people fap to loli and some don't, some think it's all right, some don't, etc; As much as i dislike this saying, I don't think it matters that much.you've been since 2013 you should know discussion isn't just a question and answer. So, care to explain your answer more? Thanks. Here are some questions in particular i don't think have much variety in answer: "Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace?" -> Stigma is a pretty vague term, but i think most agree that fapping to cartoon kids won't be universally accepted anytime soon "is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia" -> Lol no; if you associate japanese culture with loli, that says more about you than japanese culture "Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? " -> The wording may not be the best, since if it's just a question of can/cannot, it obviously can; have you never heard or thought a variation of "[fiction] changed my life!"? Klad said: that's exactly what a lolicon would say to hide himself!... How are people finding such pictures attractive? Wow I'm disgusted already |
Klad said: because christmas cakes are where the fun is atromagia said: Lmfao. But Im serious though. Why dont people like MILFs?There isn't much to say about this topic that isn't a yes/no answer to your questions. Some people fap to loli and some don't, some think it's all right, some don't, etc; As much as i dislike this saying, I don't think it matters that much. Here are some questions in particular i don't think have much variety in answer: "Will there always be a stigma to want to wack off to your little cartoon 6 year olds in peace?" -> Stigma is a pretty vague term, but i think most agree that fapping to cartoon kids won't be universally accepted anytime soon "is Japanese culture inherently geared towards pedophilia" -> Lol no; if you associate japanese culture with loli, that says more about you than japanese culture "Do you think fiction can affect person's POV, personality, way of life or not? why? " -> The wording may not be the best, since if it's just a question of can/cannot, it obviously can; have you never heard or thought a variation of "[fiction] changed my life!"? that's exactly what a lolicon would say to hide himself! |
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Deknijff said: Please do sozal said: They could just not look at it then... Yes, you are missing the respect for those that want to avoid this kind of images. But I could just add a spoiler tag to make you happy considering it's not really a big deal not everyone want to see kids in such a treatment. Thanks |
Deknijff said: The excuse "They could just not look at it then... " is dumb.zal said: They could just not look at it then... Yes, you are missing the respect for those that want to avoid this kind of images. But I could just add a spoiler tag to make you happy considering it's not really a big deal Using the spoiler tag is what I've said in the first place. The problem now is that everyone that quoted you has the same image without spoilers. Also do you really think that image is not NSFW or NSFM? |
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| There's nothing wrong with sexy lolis and if u can't tell that real children don't look like that then Idk what to see Real ppl and some characters do not look alike -____- |
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Kofrine said: Otaku-Gunso said: i dont know the character of your example, can you make it little more easier?Hehe kodomo no jikan, my ex was kickin it with that :P I don't think anyone is going to have feelings on a baby character in an anime xD I don't think moe feelings for anime characters affect how you like folks in real life at all. If so then I would have stumbled accross IRL Jounouchi Kazuya or IRL Ryotsu Kankichi by now :P Thanks. Jounouchi is from Yu-Gi-Oh DM, Ryotsu is from Kochikame(and also in my avatar) |
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Deknijff said: But those drawing is intrepet as kid, real kid. it isn't about what has shown on the screen but the content/idea/message that it conveys.@Kofrine Why would I be lying to myself? I don't think that image is a bad representation of real children because it's not real kids. People can clearly see the difference I don't think using kids for sex will become a mainstream thing in the future honestly. We've advanced past that. |
Klad said: The idea of finding them cute is somehow understandable but attractive is beyond me.Deknijff said: ... How are people finding such pictures attractive? Wow I'm disgusted alreadyAin't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man [img*]http://anime-sk.ru/wp-content/uploads/69.-Kodomo-no-Jikan-17.jpg[/img] Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? BTW, please spoiler tag that. |
JkayW said: Deknijff said: Ain't nothing wrong with sexy lolis man Wouldn't you rather anime kids be used for fapping material instead of real children? What's the difference? Fapping to pictures of fictional kids or real kids are both not harming the actual children. They're both pictures and both interpretations of the reality around us. not sure if you're serious or not but this is stupid. you're not literally harming children, no, but it feeds demand for those photos and encourages the people who create child porn in the first place. i'm not pro-loli but in those cases the first or initial instance doesn't require harming children. not the same. |
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Kofrine said: I don't know what else I could say to you man. This is not a hard issue. 2D is 2D and 3D is 3D it's as simple as that. People can clearly see the difference. Just because I like tentacle Hentai doesn't mean I want to see real women get raped by tentacles. Deknijff said: But those drawing is intrepet as kid, real kid. it isn't about what has shown on the screen but the content/idea/message that it conveys.@Kofrine Why would I be lying to myself? I don't think that image is a bad representation of real children because it's not real kids. People can clearly see the difference I don't think using kids for sex will become a mainstream thing in the future honestly. We've advanced past that. @zal Honestly I've seen more intense things than that so it looks safe in my eyes |
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truisms said: JkayW said: What's the difference? Fapping to pictures of fictional kids or real kids are both not harming the actual children. They're both pictures and both interpretations of the reality around us. not sure if you're serious or not but this is stupid. you're not literally harming children, no, but it feeds demand for those photos and encourages the people who create child porn in the first place. i'm not pro-loli but in those cases the first or initial instance doesn't require harming children. not the same. Tbf, they aren't exactly wrong. Rather they are asking the tough questions that need to be asked when delving into this lolicon debate. Also... OneTrueLolicon said: KonaKoffee said: After looking through this thread, there are some thing I should go take care of right this minute: -Take a shower and scrub off the cringe -Look at cute puppy pictures to erase the cringey loli pic from my mind -Lose all hope -Drink some bleach -If the bleach doesn't work then I'll just run in the middle of the freeway Or, as per rules of this thread, have a loli. :3 Pointing out your shit taste in lolis =/= being naughty last I checked. Not sure if impostor or not, but if the former, you aren't doing a very good job. :v |
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