| I mean there are a lot of anime such as No Game No Life where it ends in the middle of things so that it's completely unfinished. In NGNL, the whole plot of challenging the different kingdoms and then God didn't even happen because they're not making another season. So just like the title of this post says, why doesn't Madhouse make second seasons? |
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| Because they're not asked for it, maybe? The publisher who wants a second season but would receive a refusal from Madhouse would simply look for another animation studio instead. How many time did you see a title that had Madhouse for its first season get an adaptation by another studio for a sequel? That should answer your question. if it's regular, then the studio is indeed probably refusing sequel (that or the publisher wasn't satisfied of madhouse for that particular adaptation), but if there isn't, then it's not the studio, but simply the publishers that aren't interested. For starters, most publishers don't do second seasons for most of their titles anyway. |
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| I don't really understand much that meme, Madhouse does second seasons a lot of times, Chihayafuru, Kaiji, Black Lagoon, Diamond no Ace... I might be wrong, but back then wasn't the No Game No Life light novel pretty much in the same place because the author had no idea how to continue? |
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| Chihayafuru has a S2. Mahouka will get a movie, ergo your premise is flawed. Although, madhouse indeed has a knack of not following up with series' sequels. |
| It does make second seasons. If you are curious about a particular one then look up for the answer to that, don't generalise so much. |
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| Maybe 'cause some anime are made simply to promote the manga/LN. Maybe the first season's DVDs/Blu Rays didn't meet the intended sales goal, so they don't want to risk losing money. Maybe they just want to try making other shows instead. I really don't know. Sorry. |
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| Okay for one, studios are not the end all be all to everything. Sure, Madhouse can refuse to do second seasons of stuff, but if they aren't actually asked by the people who decided to give whatever the show is an anime adaption, they can't do shit. If Madhouse makes an original show or simply gets the rights to a show, they can do stuff like decide to make second seasons, but that's not a situation they're always in. Madhouse as a studio is overrated as fuck anyways. |
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BRB-kun said: Chihayafuru has a S2. Mahouka will get a movie, ergo your premise is flawed. Although, madhouse indeed has a knack of not following up with series' sequels. Its not really confirmed if Madhouse will be behind the Mahouka movie yet. |
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MetaThPr4h said: I might be wrong, but back then wasn't the No Game No Life light novel pretty much in the same place because the author had no idea how to continue? Yes you're wrong. Anime covered volume 1-3, novels were already at volume 6 when the anime aired. |
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| I really wish they'd do it more often too, I can think of about about 25 things from them off the top of my head that could use more sequels. At least finish Claymore if nothing else...the rest of the manga is too badass to leave unadapted and it's completed. Same with Gunslinger Girl |
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j0x said: while Madhouse is not the one to decide..the fact that none of their LN adaption got a sequel is painfuly true..i will add Hajime no Ippo made by Madhouse so far has 3 seasons too so ye that meme about Madhouse should die already but as @Zefyris said..there are studio that actually follow the non-sequel policy..Brain's Base for exemple..they even had to found a brand-new studio to make Durarara's sequels..and they had to hand Oregairu over to studio Feel since Brain's Base likely refused to do S2 as far as I know..Natsume Yuujinchou and Ookami to Koushinryou are the only shows with sequels in their record.. |
| It's called "The madhouse curse!" And the cause of the curse is still unknown! |
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Some say one of the animators violated an Egytpian Pharaoh's tomb. :P |
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| others say the studio is built over an old madhouse..XD |
| Kaiji got S2 (they can make S3 after 1 poker hen) NGNL and OPM not enough material i dont care about Overlord , the whole premise is boring AF |
| Because they're mad....duh...... |
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YayaChibi said: CrashD said: I mean there are a lot of anime such as No Game No Life where it ends in the middle of things so that it's completely unfinished. In NGNL, the whole plot of challenging the different kingdoms and then God didn't even happen because they're not making another season. So just like the title of this post says, why doesn't Madhouse make second seasons? Madhouse didn't make the second season to NGNL because they had enough material to make a 2nd season, but Kamiya Yuu(Writer and illust for LN) and his wife Mashiro Hiragi(Illust for NGNL manga)were caught 'tracing'.... I'd understand why Kamiya Yuu would trace, but not his wife.... Please to not spread wrong informations like that. They were not "caught tracing". A WESTERN website that likes scandals (including fakes ones) posted a series of pics and accused him of tracing. From starters considering the source of the accusation this is not a trustworthy accusation, but on top of it it being western rather than Japanese means that it would be very very doubtful for it to have any impact on the Japanese industry. It had, as far as I know, absolutely NO IMPACT on the japanese scene for the author or NGNL. Furthermore, even if it was true and that the author was also accused among the Japanese novel industry of doing tracing for his novels illustrations, it would have absolutely NO CONSEQUENCES for the decision of making a new anime. Especially since tracing isn't anything serious to begin with, too. juicykitten95 said: Kaiji got S2 (they can make S3 after 1 poker hen) NGNL and OPM not enough material i dont care about Overlord , the whole premise is boring AF Another completely wrong information, that was already debunked a few posts above for this one. NGNL already had enough material when the first season ended, and it has even more now. |
ZefyrisJun 19, 2016 2:02 PM
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| Because Valve doesn't make 3rd game series installment. |
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| Most of their works don't need sequels, so they actually have a good record of making sequels. Their recent works e.g. hxh, overlord, mahouka, ngnl will just take time. Patience. |
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malki said: j0x said: Natsume Yuujinchou and Ookami to Koushinryou are the only shows with sequels in their record.. Ookami season 1 was done by imagin so don't know if this should even count. |
YayaChibi said: Zefyris said: Please to not spread wrong informations like that. They were not "caught tracing". A WESTERN websites that likes scandals (including fakes ones) posted a series of pics and accused him of tracing. It had, as far as I know, absolutely NO IMPACT on the japanese scene for the author or NGNL. Furthermore, even if it was true and that the author was also accused among the Japanese novel industry of doing tracing for his novels illustrations, it would have absolutely NO CONSEQUENCES for the decision of making a new anime. Another completely wrong information, that was already debunked a few posts above for this one. NGNL already had enough material when the first season ended, and it has even more now. My computer had started updating before I managed to finish writing. I apologized for that. It did have an impact on the series, which was making both westerners and Japanese anime viewers get a negative approach about it making it an anime some people want to avoiding, not giving it the best name... Not giving the series a 2nd season is mainly because of health reasons the author/illust had(from what resources say). Their wasn't even going to be a season 1 because of Kamiya yuu's condition during volumes 1-3... NGNL has 8 volumes of light novel material to work with which I have read most of, and they could make at least 14 episodes of material. So it is enough.... Considering the very good sales, there is no sign of such impact. And it shouldn't have anyway, considering how banal tracing is. The current content would easily allow to make 20 to 24 episodes btw. |
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| While it's up to who makes the manga to give MADHOUSE permission to make another season, I'd say that since Nippon TV became their main owner, things changed. They've got less employees now and less money too (also the reason why their animation doesn't look as good as it did five years ago). |
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YayaChibi said: Zefyris said: Considering the very good sales, there is no sign of such impact. And it shouldn't have anyway, considering how banal tracing is. The current content would easily allow to make 20 to 24 episodes btw. The manga is about 14 and the LN is about 22.... Eventually or never...we'll just have to wait NGNL volume 8 sold for 135 k and remained more than 1 month in the top ranking before dropping out. This makes it one of this year's best sellers LN side. It's selling really really well. 99,9% of the LN cannot even come close of such results. IIRC the BD were a success as well. |
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| i consider 20+ ep seasons a "second season" so in that case you cant really blame them... plus madhouse is pretty good at finishing anime within 25 eps |
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| I don't know why they do it either. Even when they have enough material they usually don't go with another season. I'd say it's because the anime are used to promote the manga. I personally don't agree with the industry seeing it like that, but that's how it is. As for NGNL specifically though, it's getting a movie next year, idk if it'll cover capturing all the other kingdoms or what, but at least we're getting something. Also, One punch man is getting a second season, so it happens, just not as often with that studio. |
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| Mad makes 2nd seasons quite a lot, It's 3rd seasons they never do sigh. They made this eternal rule for them selves, that states they must never create a season 3, which is utterly retarded. I think the reason for this stupid rule of there's, stems from the fact, that in Japan, each season will sell less DvDs, then the previous season before it(not like DvDs make any profit anyway. It's beyond stupid to allow DvD projections to dictate the tize of a series, especially since everyone knows the profit a series makes is based on the merchandising campaign, not DvD/Blu-ray sales) To Mad: Give us a season 3 of Saiukoku Monogatari god damn it. That had such a great merchandising campaign too, it was a gold mine, yet they still wouldn't go past 2 seasons. |
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| Cardcaptor Sakura is three seasons, Hunter x Hunter 2011 is officially three seasons since every 50 episodes is automatically considered a "season" even if there are no breaks, Hijime no Ippo is four seasons, Monster is two seasons, One Punch Man is two seasons since there's a new one coming out, Chihayafuru is two seasons, Diamond no Ace could be considered three seasons since the "first season" is 75 episodes, Kaiji is two seasons, ect. Chi's Sweet Home has two seasons and has a third one airing, but the first two seasons are 104 episodes each with a collective airing period of a year (same as a 52 episode season). Whether if you consider this to be two seasons or four is up to you. |
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| Maybe because they aren't as obsessed with cheap cash grabs like all other studios |
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| They pick the best mangas to adapt and usually those mangas got better first half so they stop after adapting that half |
MuQu said: They pick the best mangas to adapt and usually those mangas got better first half so they stop after adapting that half Well some of the best to adapt, but I think the problem Isn't the quality of the source material, It's a Mad execution issue. Mad tries really hard to select source material thet can compete with Pierrot, when they have the funds to attempt such, the problem is, while mad can make a overall awesome anime, their execution is notoriously weak, especially when they go after source material, you would expect Pierrot to pick up, which leads many of their anime to get worse as the series goes on. |
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Nidstang said: Maybe because they aren't as obsessed with cheap cash grabs like all other studios And Maybe that is the reason they almost closed the doors, not like the other studios. |
bigivelfhq said: Nidstang said: Maybe because they aren't as obsessed with cheap cash grabs like all other studios And Maybe that is the reason they almost closed the doors, not like the other studios. Yea sigh, some people(lets call them morons), seem to just assume when people want more then 1-2 seasons, they must want never ending cash grab crap. That's not the case, the truth is, most stories need around 40-50 or so episodes to tell properly or to even finish at all(hell there's even a bunch that needs 100+ ). The story should dictate the size of a series, not the other way around. |
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| OP, just because you love NGNL that much and wants a S2 so you can fap... You don't have to create a thread like this... |
_Ako_ said: OP, just because you love NGNL that much and wants a S2 so you can fap... You don't have to create a thread like this... While I would agree, mad really has a issue with adamantly refusing to ever make a season 3 for things, no matter how successful such is, and needed a season 3 is(Cries over the incomplete Saiunkoku Monogatari cliffhanger). Seriously, the no season 3 rule is utterly stupid. IG is the ones with the 1 season rule though, definitely not mad. The only time IG broke their rule, they made a High End Great for crying out loud(Kemono no souja erin). They really need to make more medium sized anime. |
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| They make sequels now. Look at Chihayafuru that's on it's 3rd season this year. The only reason they didn't before is because the guy in charge didn't want to. At least that's how i remember it. |
| They make a lot of second seasons, it's third seasons they're not too into making. With their anime Stitch they even gave the third season to a different studio because they didn't want to make it. They did make 4 seasons of Cardcaptor Sakura, though, as well as 3 quite long seasons of Diamond no Ace. I would guess it's a matter of return on investments. Either the source material publisher doesn't want another season or Madhouse decides it wouldn't be profitable enough to them. For NGNL they might even be postponing it since they know the hype will never die down and therefore it doesn't need to take priority over their other projects. If they don't release NGNL 2 until a full decade after the first one came out there will still be a lot of people who will watch it, which may be more economical for them than adapting it now and losing guaranteed income almost like adapting it is a giant piggy bank that can be broken at any time. |
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| The true question should be "why madhouse refused to do a second season for One punch man knowing it woukd have gain for them a LOT OF MONEY?" |
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Programmer69 said: OP : "Why doesn't Madhouse make second season?" Diamond no Ace Act II : "Am i a joke to you?" Thread is from 2016. Cut him some slack. |
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| Madhouse has plenty of season 2s, they are making one right now actually. That baseball anime getting one lol |
| I mean, you might as well ask "why doesn't ANY anime studio make second seasons?" How many anime made after 2012 have a proper conclusion, not just a "go read the manga" ending? I guarantee you it's less than 1%. Modern anime only exists to serve as advertising for the manga/light novel, and Japanese studios don't give a flying fuck about anime fans outside Japan. Why should they? Most of us pirate their shows anyway, so it's not like we're paying customers. |
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