lasterrending said: Based on Japanese people I talked to it means Pedophile. Stop defending a fact with your ExTamplier said: I did not know there are people that ignorant, who don't even know what lolicon means in english. I know what it means. It's a shortened version of "lolita complex" i.e. an obsession with young girls. I was using the term as it applies to anime, because, you know, this is an anime forum. And again, I suggest that if "lolicon" is synonymous with "pedophile" that we need a new term to distinguish those attracted to anime lolis from those attracted to real children. (Plus I was being sarcastic, but apparently I'm not as witty as I thought) quotelolita complexquote |
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Fintan said: You all know if you're a pedophile or not, being light heart'd and joking around doesn't fool people. They can pretty much prove if you're a pedophile by using pulse readings while questioning and brain scans while you're being shown images. I'm 100% positive that most of you claiming "I only like 2d lolis" would be shown for what you are. I really doubt it. You're claiming that if a person was shown an image of a loli character who was purposely drawn to look sexually appealing, that they would have the same reaction to a photo of a real nine-year-old girl who was dressed normally? I seriously, seriously doubt it. I like shota but real little boys are not appealing at all; they're ANNOYING. lol |
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Blackheart said: being sexually attracted to children and wanting to have sex with them makes you a pedophile. You're attracted to innocence. You like the idea of purity being dirty. You like the idea of an innocent girl sexualizing themselves for you. Thats just normal fantasy. but youre projecting that urge into cartoons of little girls being raped and i dont know why. If you do have urges to have sex with children then you have some kind of brain disorder usually based around the act of procreation. Sex=procreation/children, When you see a child=turned on , because of the driving force to want to procreate. Then some kind of cross connection in your brain that skips the having sex with a fully grown woman to have kids to wanting to have sex with kids. Usually because of inability to find a partner. You see? your brain missed a step. What if i like both though? How does that work as a linear path of brain activity. Did i beat the equation professor? ;) |
| These threads are shit. Nobody ever learns from past experiences with this type of thread and continue to throw out the same argument hundreds of times. Embarrasing. |
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| Not this shit again................... |
| I know I'm late to the party but here goes: Does playing violent videogames make you a school shooter? |
GesuYarou said: I know I'm late to the party but here goes: Does playing violent videogames make you a school shooter? 1. No because you aren't committing an actual crime, just like how you aren't committing a crime by jerking off to a loli or real child. 2. People play violent games for the thrill. It isn't the same as real life because nobody is actually dying. This case doesn't apply to lolicon because being sexually attracted to it harms nobody, whether it's real or fiction. |
AltoRoark said: GesuYarou said: I know I'm late to the party but here goes: Does playing violent videogames make you a school shooter? 1. No because you aren't committing an actual crime, just like how you aren't committing a crime by jerking off to a loli or real child. 2. People play violent games for the thrill. It isn't the same as real life because nobody is actually dying. This case doesn't apply to lolicon because being sexually attracted to it harms nobody, whether it's real or fiction. That was a rhetorical question btw.... |
| well, sure it makes you look stupid. |
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lasterrending said: Kagami said: These threads are shit. Nobody ever learns from past experiences with this type of thread and continue to throw out the same argument hundreds of times. Embarrasing. I agree. The arguments on both sides can be summed up as so: "People attracted to sexualized underage 2D girls are pedophiles." "Nuh uh!" "Uh huh!" "You're stupid." "Yeah, well you're a booger head." Am I right? Its basically lolicon haters shoving the same illogical argument onto said thread and lolicon supporters doing the same. Same argument, 10,000 times. |
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| 0K, I've got another interesting question: Well, if all this about "attracted to drawn unrealistic underage girls = possibly attracted to RL underage girls = possibly ready to break the law", then for sure there already must be the cases when someone arrested for inappropriate behavior towards underage girls has been storing lolicon. Now, can somebody name me such cases? With all this years of lolicon manga & anime in the age of Internet & Amazon.Com, there must be at least a dozen or couple dozens of this cases! Somebody? Anybody? (tumbleweeds rolling) Just like with bloody violent video games. |
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
GesuYarou said: AltoRoark said: 1. No because you aren't committing an actual crime, just like how you aren't committing a crime by jerking off to a loli or real child. 2. People play violent games for the thrill. It isn't the same as real life because nobody is actually dying. This case doesn't apply to lolicon because being sexually attracted to it harms nobody, whether it's real or fiction. That was a rhetorical question btw.... I know that. I'm telling you why it's an invalid comparison. |
Huh? I'm confused.. The things you pointed out were exactly why this is a valid comparison don't you think? It's okay as long as you aren't harming anyone in real life.. |
GesuYarou said: Huh? I'm confused.. The things you pointed out were exactly why this is a valid comparison don't you think? It's okay as long as you aren't harming anyone in real life.. Pedophilia is attraction to children, not the act of raping or molesting a child. Playing a violent game isn't the same thing as pedophilia. Killing in real life is different from games because people actually die. This transition doesn't apply to lolicon/pedophilia, because nobody is getting harmed in either cases. |
AltoRoarkApr 21, 2016 9:24 PM
AltoRoark said: GesuYarou said: Huh? I'm confused.. The things you pointed out were exactly why this is a valid comparison don't you think? It's okay as long as you aren't harming anyone in real life.. Pedophilia is attraction to children, not the act of raping or molesting a child. I know.. That's why I said what I said.. Is this one of those instances where we misunderstand each other and argue despite having the same opinion? |
GesuYarou said: Playing a violent game isn't the same thing as jerking off to lolis. Killing in real life is different from games because people actually die. This transition doesn't apply to lolicon/pedophilia, because nobody is getting harmed in either cases.I know.. That's why I said what I said.. Is this one of those instances where we misunderstand each other and argue despite having the same opinion? It's about what you find sexually appealing. If a dude furiously masturbated to some hardcore yaoi hentai or whatever, and said he was straight, would you believe him? |
AltoRoark said: GesuYarou said: Playing a violent game isn't the same thing as jerking off to lolis. Killing in real life is different from games because people actually die. This transition doesn't apply to lolicon/pedophilia, because nobody is getting harmed in either cases.I know.. That's why I said what I said.. Is this one of those instances where we misunderstand each other and argue despite having the same opinion? It's about what you find sexually appealing. If a dude furiously masturbated to some hardcore yaoi hentai or whatever, and said he was straight, would you believe him? Huh? So you're telling me holding down and fucking a 9 year old girl doesn't harm anybody? Well if you're talking about masturbating to little children, then I agree but I'm assuming that pausing during an underwear loli scene leads to masturbation anyway.. |
| Also, where the Hell is @Shiratori99? Did he has been banned? |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
| He got a sock, now he is free from this curse. |
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| Oh look more trash topics about loli's, what a surprise |
kitsune0 said: Korrvo said: Are you bloody kidding me, mate? XD @1L0can0 using it as his signature like for ages, seriously, it's hard not to notice.Holy crap how do you remember that I said that years ago or something 0T: I've seen just the same "arguments" about liking anime girls in general - "they all have cute child-like faces, if you like them then you're a pedophile" - even if they have large breasts of a mature women. Guess what - it's not how it works. When all this witch hunting pedohysteria hits the fan I've got really tired of this shit and done some little experiment. I've got 17 pictures of some busty anime girls - Nyaruko (Haiyore! Nyaruko-san), Ura-Moka (Rosario+Vampire, Moka's true form), Rias and Akeno (High School DxD), Sakura (Taimanin Asagi), Meg (Bakuretsu Tenshi), Saeko (Highschool of the Dead), Mikuru (Suzumiya Haruhi no Yuuutsu), Ryouko (same franchise), Shizuma (Strawberry Panic), Orihime (Bleach), 2 pics of Mami (Mahou Shoujo Madoka*Magica), Yoko (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann), Shimei and Unchou (Ikkitousen), Maya and Aya (Tenjou Tenge), Medaka (Medaka Box) and Izumi (Kore ga Watashi no Goshujinsama), and send it with "Please, can you analyze this pictures? Can you tell the estimated age of this characters?" request to one professional psychologist that I've know quite well. The man also has a major degree in biology, studied and teaches anthropology, and happens to be an art school student in his early days. Quite fits the bill, don't you agree? And all he knows about anime is that "it's just some Japanese cartoons", no love, no hate, no prejudice at all. And in the end he tells me this: "If there is a character with child's face but big breasts and hips and a narrow waist (i.e. not just fat) - it's a fantasy character and trying to determine her age is meaningless." So yes, you can like busty anime girls, lolis and elves, it doesn't matter, it's all the same fantastical shit. And some more about bloody video games and corresponding violent behavior: yes, it's also the same shit, the correlation is very slim at best. There is a bloody metric ton of people who like violent games but literally can't stand any signs of blood in RL, yours truly is one of them. Sometimes it's just flat ridiculous: I've accidentally injured my hand pretty bad at work (small but nasty deep ragged wound), so I've come and asked for some help, because it's bloody hard to bandage yourself with just one hand. Guess what, not only women has been freaked out, but most of men also. God damn, I've known these guys like for years, they're not some pansy office workers, they like hard-boiled violent action flicks and games, they're good at bar fights against uneven numbers of opponents, and yet this happened. Haven't posted on MAL in what seems like ages....Anyways.....osu? |
Korrvo said: I like lolis. I don't like them sexually. It's hard to not like lolis, their cuteness pander to the same emotions that naturally makes us fathers. But it's hard to get off to anything that doesn't have any adult women characteristics like large tits, ass, and thighs. http://imgur.com/qgjKHGn |
ExTamplier said: You know how sometimes anime include scenes where a loli is seen in underwear only, or in a bath scene pretty much naked. If you rewind an episode and pause to take a better look, does this mean you are a pedophile? No. This means you are eligible to be my BFF. zombie_pegasus said: Yes. Everything child related makes you a pedophile. If you would prefer to have a child of the opposite sex over a child of the same sex then you are a pedophile. If you don't look away immediately when you see a kid changing then you are a pedophile. If you watch anime where the characters are visually under the age of 15 then you are a pedophile. There's no escaping it, we are all pedophiles. So all parents are pedophiles then? bobzanny said: Depends on where your right hand is. What about your left hand? Because I am left-handed. unblockedbridge said: Exactly. 3-d girls don't cut it.Nah there's a difference, you have to be open minded to see that though. There are lots of anime related preferences that don't carry over. Like girls. 3d chicks are just gross looking to me. Mamster-P said: You have just won an award for that comment.this shit again  if liking lolis makes you a pedophile, then playing GTA makes you a potential criminal COD being your favorite game means you're the next mass shooter..... etc ITS NOT REAL, and YES loli can still be sexy... get over it, you're fine |
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HeroicHelmsman said: Sorry, but I don't want to be a bff to a loli lover.ExTamplier said: You know how sometimes anime include scenes where a loli is seen in underwear only, or in a bath scene pretty much naked. If you rewind an episode and pause to take a better look, does this mean you are a pedophile? No. This means you are eligible to be my BFF. zombie_pegasus said: Yes. Everything child related makes you a pedophile. If you would prefer to have a child of the opposite sex over a child of the same sex then you are a pedophile. If you don't look away immediately when you see a kid changing then you are a pedophile. If you watch anime where the characters are visually under the age of 15 then you are a pedophile. There's no escaping it, we are all pedophiles. So all parents are pedophiles then? bobzanny said: Depends on where your right hand is. What about your left hand? Because I am left-handed. unblockedbridge said: Exactly. 3-d girls don't cut it.Nah there's a difference, you have to be open minded to see that though. There are lots of anime related preferences that don't carry over. Like girls. 3d chicks are just gross looking to me. Mamster-P said: You have just won an award for that comment.this shit again if liking lolis makes you a pedophile, then playing GTA makes you a potential criminal COD being your favorite game means you're the next mass shooter..... etc ITS NOT REAL, and YES loli can still be sexy... get over it, you're fine |
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HeroicHelmsman said: Parents are the very definition of pedophiles. In order to be a good parent you must want to protect your children. Finding your children cute is the most efficient way to encourage you to protect them. Under MAL's definition of pedophiles as being anyone who finds children cute all parents must be pedophiles or else they wouldn't do a good job at protecting their children.zombie_pegasus said: Yes. Everything child related makes you a pedophile. If you would prefer to have a child of the opposite sex over a child of the same sex then you are a pedophile. If you don't look away immediately when you see a kid changing then you are a pedophile. If you watch anime where the characters are visually under the age of 15 then you are a pedophile. There's no escaping it, we are all pedophiles. So all parents are pedophiles then? I honestly don't know how this inaccurate definition emerged. |
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ExTamplier said: Who would even want that my fellow MALer?HeroicHelmsman said: Sorry, but I don't want to be a bff to a loli lover.No. This means you are eligible to be my BFF. So all parents are pedophiles then? What about your left hand? Because I am left-handed. Exactly. 3-d girls don't cut it. You have just won an award for that comment. |
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| Is this what people are into? Shame.. |
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zombie_pegasus said: How it came about. Well, there is this thing called the internet that causes people to lose a certain cognitive process in their brain.Parents are the very definition of pedophiles. In order to be a good parent you must want to protect your children. Finding your children cute is the most efficient way to encourage you to protect them. Under MAL's definition of pedophiles as being anyone who finds children cute all parents must be pedophiles or else they wouldn't do a good job at protecting their children. I honestly don't know how this inaccurate definition emerged. |
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HeroicHelmsman said: Does BFF means a Bearded Fat Friend?This means you are eligible to be my BFF. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: Somebody finally understands. (At last)HeroicHelmsman said: Does BFF means a Bearded Fat Friend?This means you are eligible to be my BFF. |
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HeroicHelmsman said: Well, its wasn't that hard to guess after seeing countless times that all anime-fans are "fat neckbeards".Somebody finally understands. (At last) |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: True. True. That is a good point for sure.HeroicHelmsman said: Well, its wasn't that hard to guess after seeing countless times that all anime-fans are "fat neckbeards".Somebody finally understands. (At last) |
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Dementedkaliber said: Blackheart said: being sexually attracted to children and wanting to have sex with them makes you a pedophile. You're attracted to innocence. You like the idea of purity being dirty. You like the idea of an innocent girl sexualizing themselves for you. Thats just normal fantasy. but youre projecting that urge into cartoons of little girls being raped and i dont know why. If you do have urges to have sex with children then you have some kind of brain disorder usually based around the act of procreation. Sex=procreation/children, When you see a child=turned on , because of the driving force to want to procreate. Then some kind of cross connection in your brain that skips the having sex with a fully grown woman to have kids to wanting to have sex with kids. Usually because of inability to find a partner. You see? your brain missed a step. What if i like both though? How does that work as a linear path of brain activity. Did i beat the equation professor? ;) its not an equation to fix, you're ill. |
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| Vast majority of the times I've ran into random paedophiliacs on random chats online they never talked about lolicon or showed any signs of even knowing what it was. |
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HeroicHelmsman said: You have just won an award for that comment. well thank you it'd be nice if people could finally separate fiction from reality, as many people dont' seem to be able to fiction is usually an idealized version of something irl or something completely made up based on something irl im pretty sure its the idealization of lolis that makes them sexy to many of us, SURE maybe some actually are pedos but thats not a guarantee, and regardless, better to touch yourself to loli than to fuck real kids |
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| People whose brains tell them that a drawn child equates to a real child call (anime)lolicons pedophiles. People whose brains do not make that connection and they see those as just drawings usually at least tolerate them (not necessarily like them). People have a different viewpoint which makes this whole argument pointless. There may be pedophiles who are into lolis, but not everyone into lolis is a pedophile. That's the difference. I can't believe I actually commented seriously on a loli-pedo-trollthread, I'm having a weak day, I apologize. |
Fintan said: traed said: Vast majority of the times I've ran into random paedophiliacs on random chats online they never talked about lolicon or showed any signs of even knowing what it was. You run into lots of pedophiles in your chats? I could not tell you how much of the general population is pedophilic or how moral or immoral the average pedophile is for sure but I can say I've ran into quite a few in general. I pretty much just find out from asking their age range preference in girls. |
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| they are drawings :l im sorry to tell you but you aren't a pedo if you just like animay |
| A pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to children, so technically yes. However as long as you aren't looking at actual child pornography or actually doing anything with children, I see nothing wrong with finding something attractive. Short answer: Unless you are actually looking at people fucking children or animals, yourself included. I don't give a shit. Also, you really look at some softcore shit. |
| “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” |
GesuYarou said: AltoRoark said: Playing a violent game isn't the same thing as jerking off to lolis. Killing in real life is different from games because people actually die. This transition doesn't apply to lolicon/pedophilia, because nobody is getting harmed in either cases. It's about what you find sexually appealing. If a dude furiously masturbated to some hardcore yaoi hentai or whatever, and said he was straight, would you believe him? Huh? So you're telling me holding down and fucking a 9 year old girl doesn't harm anybody? Well if you're talking about masturbating to little children, then I agree but I'm assuming that pausing during an underwear loli scene leads to masturbation anyway.. Of course I mean masturbating to one. You don't have to commit rape to know what your sexual preference is. |
AltoRoark said: GesuYarou said: Huh? So you're telling me holding down and fucking a 9 year old girl doesn't harm anybody? Well if you're talking about masturbating to little children, then I agree but I'm assuming that pausing during an underwear loli scene leads to masturbation anyway.. Of course I mean masturbating to one. You don't have to commit rape to know what your sexual preference is. Well, you could've used your words better but in that case I agree.. |
| It said "cute", not "sexy", you silly. ^_^ |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: Sometimes I pop a boner on cute things, except lolis and dogs. It said "cute", not "sexy", you silly. ^_^ |
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ExTamplier said: Prosecution has nothing to add. I just hope it's not kittens. Puppies are 0K, I hate dogs.Sometimes I pop a boner on cute things. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
kitsune0 said: I like rabbits. Rabbits are just fine. ExTamplier said: Prosecution has nothing to add. I just hope it's not kittens. Puppies are 0K, I hate dogs.Sometimes I pop a boner on cute things.  |
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| Do I count as a pedophile for stopping the video and drawing what I see? I just draw them for fun.^^ |
| My fav characters- Kanade Tachibana, Naka, and Shana! |
| This is no rabbit. It's bloody furry. So, no rabbits, more like rabies. You should burn it with fire. See it writhe in agony. But do not pray for it's soul going to Hell because this abominations doesn't have a soul. |
| There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value. Oil and nuclear are civilisation saviours. Deal with it. |
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