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Death scenes and ending outcomes removed from English localized Bravely Second, more appearence alterations, and removed content from the art book. Nintendo confirmed responsible.

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Feb 29, 2016 8:50 AM
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Appearence alterations:


Art book changes:


Plot (spoilers) alterations


It's a big one.

Update:
Nintendo confirmed responsible:
"Now we did reach out to Nintendo- we had Benny do it- now they have yet to answer us on whether those changes that we heard about in the European version were also present in the North American version, but when I talked to a Square-Enix PR representative they told me that Nintendo is responsible for the localisation of Bravely Second."
http://operationrainfall.com/2016/03/03/total-control-ep-66-bravely-default-changes/

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Feb 29, 2016 8:58 AM
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They changed the story from the death scene removal, skip this game. Buy something more complete and BS free like the English version of Gundam Breaker 3.


Feb 29, 2016 9:16 AM
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import the real version of this 3rd game in the franchise
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Feb 29, 2016 9:39 AM
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TR-8RCaim said:
Appearence alterations:


Art book changes:


Plot (spoilers) alterations


It's a big one.
Well then, I'll repost my post even if you did cover most of it.

Anyway, the art book was also censored and the costumes too (again):



And:



Pastebin on specific changes.

http://pastebin.com/eTcrMe3x

There are also some retarded dialogues, including references to Star Wars where there were none ("These aren't the intruders you're looking for" instead of "Go away") and references to Smoky Bear, which seems to be a recurring character in Nintendo's localizations now.

I don't know why, but, it just is for some reason...





For now, this is everything that was dug up. People still seem to be focusing on FEF. We'll see more shit later.




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Feb 29, 2016 9:42 AM
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Just buy used or get the JP copy.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 9:49 AM
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Two games I was really looking forward to playing this year...

Maimed and beaten on arrival...

It hurts to live sometimes...

Only death can know peace from this evil

Feb 29, 2016 10:09 AM
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Thanks to all the people who bought Bravely Default for making this possible. :^)

"Oh it's just a couple of costumes, who cares?" Well now it's much more than that.
Feb 29, 2016 10:12 AM
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Guys, just do your best and not buy this.

And shill everywhere images on how it got butchered. There's even a tag for that.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 10:49 AM
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Goddammit, I was looking forward to this game and now it's no longer something I plan to buy along with FE:F
Feb 29, 2016 11:45 AM

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THEY'VE GUTTED AN ENDING! THEY'VE ACTUALLY GUTTED AN ENDING.





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Feb 29, 2016 11:54 AM

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@TR-8RCaim
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You guys must see the above post.




Autocrat said:
Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 11:55 AM

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Man, now this is a disappointment...

when will they stop D: !?
Feb 29, 2016 11:58 AM

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TKotarou said:
Man, now this is a disappointment...

when will they stop D: !?
They gutted a fucking ending, I'd say that's worse than even making them all wear burkas.




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Feb 29, 2016 11:59 AM

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Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal.
Feb 29, 2016 12:04 PM

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Narmy said:

Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal.
Dude, they won't wake up no matter what you try, those people are over. We need to show this to the average customer, not to the SJWs.




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Immahnoob said:
Narmy said:

Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal.
Dude, they won't wake up no matter what you try, those people are over. We need to show this to the average customer, not to the SJWs.

It's not just SJWs who defend censorship, it's also normalfags with no principles who just want to play their games. They might not care about censored costumes, but censored endings is another story. I just hope this will make them aware that the slippery slope is real.
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Narmy said:
Immahnoob said:
Dude, they won't wake up no matter what you try, those people are over. We need to show this to the average customer, not to the SJWs.

It's not just SJWs who defend censorship, it's also normalfags with no principles who just want to play their games. They might not care about censored costumes, but censored endings is another story. I just hope this will make them aware that the slippery slope is real.
Well, you can try. I've been spreading shit about FEF everywhere with other people.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 12:20 PM

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Another game not worth getting. Great job, "localisation".
Feb 29, 2016 12:23 PM

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WTF!? Why the fuck would they censor it? LIKE WTF!!!??? This SJW shit truly has gone too far. sensitivity needs to stop like...fuck sake.
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Feb 29, 2016 12:32 PM

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I don't know, I remember talking about how censorship is a pervasive slippery slope and all.

I wonder why no one listened.



No, but really, it's not like I was the only one, so I'm not entirely sure why the average fucking consumer must be so uninterested about the same hobby and industry they support with their usually work-earned money.

What we truly need is a site which archives all the changes to localizations. It should also become mainstream. That way people know what's going on.

MAYBE THEN, just MAYBE because I've seen the "average consumer" claiming the "story is irrelevant" to them, we'll have proper localizations and less shitting on customers.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 12:37 PM

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I guess I'll just skip this one.

The first one wasn't THAT good.
Feb 29, 2016 12:44 PM

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That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up.

And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese.

Feb 29, 2016 1:06 PM

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lucjan said:
That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up.

And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese.
You need to install homebrew to play region locked shit, and you can also hack it.

What others mean is that people are actually translating/uncensoring this game like they did with FEF, so you get it for a hacked 3ds and play it.

Or buy it and use a fan patch.




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Feb 29, 2016 1:08 PM

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I'll be on the lookout for that then.

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Disgusting, absolutely no one should buy this game unless it's an import.


Feb 29, 2016 1:39 PM

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Whelp there goes any chances of me buying this game.
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lucjan said:
That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up.

And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese.

That means it's time to become a turbo weeb and learn Japanese to import games.

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Feb 29, 2016 2:27 PM

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Fuck, now this looks bad.

Worst part is that I can't know how bad it is without spoiling myself.
Feb 29, 2016 2:30 PM

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Vanisher said:
Fuck, now this looks bad.

Worst part is that I can't know how bad it is without spoiling myself.
Woah, you're not going to buy it regardless? Crazy.




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Feb 29, 2016 2:42 PM

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This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly"

Shit.
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TR-8RCaim said:
What the fuck were they thinking?

"These guys will buy anything, don't even bother translating that part."
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Fuck you for the spoilers Caim...
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Look at that fucking list of changes, jesus.

The companies that localize these Jp. Games are like a overprotective mom putting Parental Controls on everything to keep there child "pure" and clean.
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Vanisher said:
TR-8RCaim said:
This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly"

Shit.


Fuck you for the spoilers Caim...
Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.
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TR-8RCaim said:
Vanisher said:


Fuck you for the spoilers Caim...
Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.


Well.. We now know everyone lives. -_-;
Feb 29, 2016 3:26 PM

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Facepalming @ all them changes

What is this kindergarten
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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TR-8RCaim said:
Vanisher said:


Fuck you for the spoilers Caim...
Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.


You never know if that might happen, you also spoiled both versions.

Wait a minute... is treehouse doing the localization for this...?
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Vanisher said:
TR-8RCaim said:
Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.


You never know if that might happen, you also spoiled both versions.

Wait a minute... is treehouse doing the localization for this...?
Nah, "everyone lives" was just an inference I made. If you're removing a death scene, of course you're going to end up with this "everyone lives" ending.
Feb 29, 2016 4:18 PM

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An internal Squeenix team did this for the EU.

For NA, it's not known who will do it. Might as well be Treehouse, we'll see.




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Hitler was good, objectively.
Feb 29, 2016 4:20 PM

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I told you guys video games were dead.
Feb 29, 2016 4:32 PM

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SMTIV FINAL please come to the west to save my 3ds.
Feb 29, 2016 4:34 PM

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How often does this happen? Is there a list somewhere?

The only older game I can think of is Ace Combat 3.
Feb 29, 2016 4:40 PM

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Nintendo strike again. They already ruin FE for me already and now it look like BS. Same goes, if no Dual audio, it is over.
Feb 29, 2016 5:44 PM

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Questionable changes. I'd like to hear their explanation for this.
Feb 29, 2016 5:50 PM
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First Fire Emblem Fates gets altered and now this?
Feb 29, 2016 6:01 PM

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don't buy it then
make it clear that these sort of practices are not acceptable.
Feb 29, 2016 7:18 PM

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FE:IF wasn't too bad, but removing a complete ending...? That's kinda too much.
Feb 29, 2016 7:41 PM

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Not buying the game isn't really going to hinder the company. You just miss out on the game unless fans correct it.
Feb 29, 2016 7:47 PM

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Nintendo is a business. They rely on money. They rely on your purchases. Not buying the game does hinder them.
Feb 29, 2016 8:02 PM

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Man their best RPG this year is gonna be DQVIII anyway so idc.
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