Death scenes and ending outcomes removed from English localized Bravely Second, more appearence alterations, and removed content from the art book. Nintendo confirmed responsible.
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Feb 29, 2016 8:50 AM
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Appearence alterations: Bosses: Graphics/Character/BOS/JBS30: Aimee (Hawkeye) Cowgirl. ---------- Random encounters: ENM/EM038: Succubus/Lilith/Melusine Cleavage and vagina bones removed. ENM/EM053: Witch Cloth around the hip covers more. ---------- Main characters: Graphics/Character/PC PCF1: Magnolia C01: Pre-order costume isn't revealing the cleavage and a zipper was added so that the belly doesn't show anymore. C05: Bunny costume censored the same way as Agnès's in Bravely Default. J00: Freelancer; crotch shadow. J02: Black Mage; garter belt completely removed, longer skirt, cleavage removed. J03: White Mage; crotch shadow. J04: Monk; crotch shadow. J05: Ranger; they added a bra. J06: Ninja; crotch shadow. *J07: Time Mage; European version fixed some textures. J15: Summoner; cleavage covered with feathers, crotch less revealing. J17: Valkyrie: crotch shadow. J21: Thief: crotch shadow. J22: Merchant; cleavage and crotch. J23: Performer; cleavage. J25: Bishop; crotch shadow. J27: Charioteer; crotch shadow. J29: Astrologian; crotch shadow. J30: Hawkeye; cowgirl. J32: Exorcist; cleavage. J33: Guardian; crotch shadow. *J34; Yōkai; shadow below the neck in the Japanese verison. PCF1: Edea: C02: Pre-order costume; crotch shadow. C04: Agnès's bunny costume censored the same way as in Bravely Default. J00: Freelancer; crotch shadow. J01: Knight; crotch shadow. J02: Black Mage; garter belt removed. J03: White Mage; crotch shadow. J04: Monk; crotch shadow. J05: Ranger; they added a bra. J06: Ninja; crotch shadow. J10: Pirate; crotch shadow. J15: Summoner; less revealing cleavage. J17: Valkyrie: crotch shadow. J22: Merchant; crotch shadow. J23: Performer; ribbon added, less revealing. J25: Bishop; crotch shadow. *J26: Wizard; white stripes fixed in the European version. J27: Charioteer; crotch shadow. J29: Astrologian; crotch shadow. J30: Hawkeye; cowgirl. J33: Guardian; crotch shadow. PCM1: Tiz ***C04: Ringabel's Wakoku Warrior costume changed below the waist, less revealing and more details. *J05: Ranger; neck has a fine line from top to bottom in the Japanese release, Europe fixed it. *J09: Swordmaster; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J10: Pirate; buttons on the clothes are sharper in the European version. J22: Merchant; crotch shadow. *J26: Wizard; European version fixed the neck again. J30: Hawkeye; cowboy. *J35: Kaiser; file differs but I didn't see any change. PCM2: Yew *J05: Ranger; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J09: Swordmaster; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J10: Pirate; buttons on the clothes are sharper in the European version. *J15: Summoner; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J26: Wizard; neck fixed in the European version. J30: Hawkeye; cowboy. *J35: Kaiser; file differs but I didn't see any change. ---------- **Model animations: Motion/ENM/JBS20: DeRosa; 8 animations were changed, I couldn't see a difference, visually. Motion/ENM/EM049: Nepenthes; stays longer in an upright position in the Japanese version. Motion/PC/PCF1/Battle/common/PCF1_Btl.bcres: Magnolia; I couldn't see any visual difference. Motion/PC/PCF2/Battle/common/PCF2_Btl.bcres: Edea; I couldn't see any visual difference. ---------- UI: Well, basically changing the bestiary drawings, menu portraits, etc. to fit the uncensored characters/enemies. http://pastebin.com/52c2rGJQ They censored a succubus. You can't be fucking kidding me. Art book changes: Plot (spoilers) alterations So i chose to side with Artemia which resulted in fighting Ominas and Bahamut, at the end of it instead of Bahamut dying they switched over to the side quest ending that comes after a major event further down the story in which it's a good ending for both sides no matter which choice you pick. I took it from /v/. I couldn't believe it, but after a little research, it's fuckin true. They did alter the plot.Went to look for a video that shows the other option being picked and my suspicions were correct https://youtu.be/RRoMivFKTlU?t=48m39s [Embed] picking to side with Ominas also gives the good ending version So basically instead of picking a side and seeing the consequences of your decision being played out you're given a "good" ending regardless, i just went back and checked the events again and this applied to all the ones i've done so far. Can't say i'm a fan of this change as part of the appeal of picking a side was actually seeing the consequences of your choice and then further down the line without going into spoilers "stuff" happens. Comparison proof: https://youtu.be/RRoMivFKTlU?t=48m39s https://youtu.be/BRK6ko05zbI?t=1494 It's a big one. Update: Nintendo confirmed responsible: "Now we did reach out to Nintendo- we had Benny do it- now they have yet to answer us on whether those changes that we heard about in the European version were also present in the North American version, but when I talked to a Square-Enix PR representative they told me that Nintendo is responsible for the localisation of Bravely Second." http://operationrainfall.com/2016/03/03/total-control-ep-66-bravely-default-changes/It starts at 52:00 |
PeenusWeenusCaimMar 4, 2016 2:04 AM
Feb 29, 2016 8:58 AM
#2
They changed the story from the death scene removal, skip this game. Buy something more complete and BS free like the English version of Gundam Breaker 3. |
Feb 29, 2016 9:16 AM
#3
import the real version of this 3rd game in the franchise |
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Feb 29, 2016 9:39 AM
#4
TR-8RCaim said: Well then, I'll repost my post even if you did cover most of it.Appearence alterations: Bosses: Graphics/Character/BOS/JBS30: Aimee (Hawkeye) Cowgirl. ---------- Random encounters: ENM/EM038: Succubus/Lilith/Melusine Cleavage and vagina bones removed. ENM/EM053: Witch Cloth around the hip covers more. ---------- Main characters: Graphics/Character/PC PCF1: Magnolia C01: Pre-order costume isn't revealing the cleavage and a zipper was added so that the belly doesn't show anymore. C05: Bunny costume censored the same way as Agnès's in Bravely Default. J00: Freelancer; crotch shadow. J02: Black Mage; garter belt completely removed, longer skirt, cleavage removed. J03: White Mage; crotch shadow. J04: Monk; crotch shadow. J05: Ranger; they added a bra. J06: Ninja; crotch shadow. *J07: Time Mage; European version fixed some textures. J15: Summoner; cleavage covered with feathers, crotch less revealing. J17: Valkyrie: crotch shadow. J21: Thief: crotch shadow. J22: Merchant; cleavage and crotch. J23: Performer; cleavage. J25: Bishop; crotch shadow. J27: Charioteer; crotch shadow. J29: Astrologian; crotch shadow. J30: Hawkeye; cowgirl. J32: Exorcist; cleavage. J33: Guardian; crotch shadow. *J34; Yōkai; shadow below the neck in the Japanese verison. PCF1: Edea: C02: Pre-order costume; crotch shadow. C04: Agnès's bunny costume censored the same way as in Bravely Default. J00: Freelancer; crotch shadow. J01: Knight; crotch shadow. J02: Black Mage; garter belt removed. J03: White Mage; crotch shadow. J04: Monk; crotch shadow. J05: Ranger; they added a bra. J06: Ninja; crotch shadow. J10: Pirate; crotch shadow. J15: Summoner; less revealing cleavage. J17: Valkyrie: crotch shadow. J22: Merchant; crotch shadow. J23: Performer; ribbon added, less revealing. J25: Bishop; crotch shadow. *J26: Wizard; white stripes fixed in the European version. J27: Charioteer; crotch shadow. J29: Astrologian; crotch shadow. J30: Hawkeye; cowgirl. J33: Guardian; crotch shadow. PCM1: Tiz ***C04: Ringabel's Wakoku Warrior costume changed below the waist, less revealing and more details. *J05: Ranger; neck has a fine line from top to bottom in the Japanese release, Europe fixed it. *J09: Swordmaster; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J10: Pirate; buttons on the clothes are sharper in the European version. J22: Merchant; crotch shadow. *J26: Wizard; European version fixed the neck again. J30: Hawkeye; cowboy. *J35: Kaiser; file differs but I didn't see any change. PCM2: Yew *J05: Ranger; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J09: Swordmaster; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J10: Pirate; buttons on the clothes are sharper in the European version. *J15: Summoner; file differs but I didn't see any change. *J26: Wizard; neck fixed in the European version. J30: Hawkeye; cowboy. *J35: Kaiser; file differs but I didn't see any change. ---------- **Model animations: Motion/ENM/JBS20: DeRosa; 8 animations were changed, I couldn't see a difference, visually. Motion/ENM/EM049: Nepenthes; stays longer in an upright position in the Japanese version. Motion/PC/PCF1/Battle/common/PCF1_Btl.bcres: Magnolia; I couldn't see any visual difference. Motion/PC/PCF2/Battle/common/PCF2_Btl.bcres: Edea; I couldn't see any visual difference. ---------- UI: Well, basically changing the bestiary drawings, menu portraits, etc. to fit the uncensored characters/enemies. http://pastebin.com/52c2rGJQ They censored a succubus. You can't be fucking kidding me. Art book changes: Plot (spoilers) alterations So i chose to side with Artemia which resulted in fighting Ominas and Bahamut, at the end of it instead of Bahamut dying they switched over to the side quest ending that comes after a major event further down the story in which it's a good ending for both sides no matter which choice you pick. I took it from /v/. I couldn't believe it, but after a little research, it's fuckin true. They did alter the plot.Went to look for a video that shows the other option being picked and my suspicions were correct https://youtu.be/RRoMivFKTlU?t=48m39s [Embed] picking to side with Ominas also gives the good ending version So basically instead of picking a side and seeing the consequences of your decision being played out you're given a "good" ending regardless, i just went back and checked the events again and this applied to all the ones i've done so far. Can't say i'm a fan of this change as part of the appeal of picking a side was actually seeing the consequences of your choice and then further down the line without going into spoilers "stuff" happens. Comparison proof: https://youtu.be/RRoMivFKTlU?t=48m39s https://youtu.be/BRK6ko05zbI?t=1494 It's a big one. Anyway, the art book was also censored and the costumes too (again): And: Pastebin on specific changes. http://pastebin.com/eTcrMe3x There are also some retarded dialogues, including references to Star Wars where there were none ("These aren't the intruders you're looking for" instead of "Go away") and references to Smoky Bear, which seems to be a recurring character in Nintendo's localizations now. I don't know why, but, it just is for some reason... For now, this is everything that was dug up. People still seem to be focusing on FEF. We'll see more shit later. |
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Feb 29, 2016 9:42 AM
#5
Just buy used or get the JP copy. |
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Feb 29, 2016 9:49 AM
#6
Two games I was really looking forward to playing this year... Maimed and beaten on arrival... It hurts to live sometimes... Only death can know peace from this evil |
Feb 29, 2016 10:09 AM
#7
Thanks to all the people who bought Bravely Default for making this possible. :^) "Oh it's just a couple of costumes, who cares?" Well now it's much more than that. |
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Feb 29, 2016 10:12 AM
#8
Guys, just do your best and not buy this. And shill everywhere images on how it got butchered. There's even a tag for that. |
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Feb 29, 2016 10:49 AM
#9
Goddammit, I was looking forward to this game and now it's no longer something I plan to buy along with FE:F |
Feb 29, 2016 11:45 AM
#10
THEY'VE GUTTED AN ENDING! THEY'VE ACTUALLY GUTTED AN ENDING. |
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Feb 29, 2016 11:54 AM
#11
@TR-8RCaim @Narmy @Fullmetal89 @shintai88 @Hoppy You guys must see the above post. |
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Feb 29, 2016 11:55 AM
#12
Man, now this is a disappointment... when will they stop D: !? |
Feb 29, 2016 11:58 AM
#13
They gutted a fucking ending, I'd say that's worse than even making them all wear burkas. |
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Feb 29, 2016 11:59 AM
#14
Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:04 PM
#15
Narmy said: Dude, they won't wake up no matter what you try, those people are over. We need to show this to the average customer, not to the SJWs.Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:09 PM
#16
Immahnoob said: Narmy said: Dude, they won't wake up no matter what you try, those people are over. We need to show this to the average customer, not to the SJWs.Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal. It's not just SJWs who defend censorship, it's also normalfags with no principles who just want to play their games. They might not care about censored costumes, but censored endings is another story. I just hope this will make them aware that the slippery slope is real. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:09 PM
#17
Narmy said: Well, you can try. I've been spreading shit about FEF everywhere with other people.Immahnoob said: Narmy said: Do you think this will be enough to finally wake up the censorship apologists? I mean they're always going on about how minor the changes are, but this seems like a big fucking deal. It's not just SJWs who defend censorship, it's also normalfags with no principles who just want to play their games. They might not care about censored costumes, but censored endings is another story. I just hope this will make them aware that the slippery slope is real. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:20 PM
#18
Another game not worth getting. Great job, "localisation". |
Feb 29, 2016 12:23 PM
#19
WTF!? Why the fuck would they censor it? LIKE WTF!!!??? This SJW shit truly has gone too far. sensitivity needs to stop like...fuck sake. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:32 PM
#20
I don't know, I remember talking about how censorship is a pervasive slippery slope and all. I wonder why no one listened. No, but really, it's not like I was the only one, so I'm not entirely sure why the average fucking consumer must be so uninterested about the same hobby and industry they support with their usually work-earned money. What we truly need is a site which archives all the changes to localizations. It should also become mainstream. That way people know what's going on. MAYBE THEN, just MAYBE because I've seen the "average consumer" claiming the "story is irrelevant" to them, we'll have proper localizations and less shitting on customers. |
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Feb 29, 2016 12:37 PM
#21
I guess I'll just skip this one. The first one wasn't THAT good. |
Feb 29, 2016 12:44 PM
#22
That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up. And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese. |
Feb 29, 2016 1:06 PM
#23
lucjan said: You need to install homebrew to play region locked shit, and you can also hack it.That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up. And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese. What others mean is that people are actually translating/uncensoring this game like they did with FEF, so you get it for a hacked 3ds and play it. Or buy it and use a fan patch. |
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Feb 29, 2016 1:33 PM
#25
Disgusting, absolutely no one should buy this game unless it's an import. |
Feb 29, 2016 1:39 PM
#26
Feb 29, 2016 2:18 PM
#27
lucjan said: That's... awful. That's a big thing to remove from a game. And I was actually looking forward to this game! Well, as much as I liked Bravely Default, it's not one of my favorite games of all time, so I won't suffer by skipping out on the sequel. Damn, Nintendo. Shape the fuck up. And to the people advising others to buy the JP version: Do you not realize that 3DS' are region locked? Plus most people can't read Japanese. That means it's time to become a turbo weeb and learn Japanese to import games. |
Feb 29, 2016 2:27 PM
#28
Fuck, now this looks bad. Worst part is that I can't know how bad it is without spoiling myself. |
Feb 29, 2016 2:30 PM
#29
Vanisher said: Woah, you're not going to buy it regardless? Crazy.Fuck, now this looks bad. Worst part is that I can't know how bad it is without spoiling myself. |
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Feb 29, 2016 2:42 PM
#30
This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly" Shit. |
Feb 29, 2016 2:44 PM
#31
TR-8RCaim said: What the fuck were they thinking? "These guys will buy anything, don't even bother translating that part." |
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Feb 29, 2016 2:47 PM
#32
Fuck you for the spoilers Caim... |
VanisherFeb 29, 2016 3:12 PM
Feb 29, 2016 2:54 PM
#33
Look at that fucking list of changes, jesus. The companies that localize these Jp. Games are like a overprotective mom putting Parental Controls on everything to keep there child "pure" and clean. |
Feb 29, 2016 3:17 PM
#34
Vanisher said: Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.TR-8RCaim said: This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly" Shit. Fuck you for the spoilers Caim... |
Feb 29, 2016 3:22 PM
#35
TR-8RCaim said: Vanisher said: Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.TR-8RCaim said: This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly" Shit. Fuck you for the spoilers Caim... Well.. We now know everyone lives. -_-; |
Feb 29, 2016 3:26 PM
#36
Facepalming @ all them changes What is this kindergarten |
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Feb 29, 2016 3:41 PM
#37
TR-8RCaim said: Vanisher said: Spoiling is ruining the surprise. This is not spoiling though, simply because the surprise does not exist. You and I will never be able to experience this reveal, ever, unless we learned Japanese and played the original version ourselves.TR-8RCaim said: This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly" Shit. Fuck you for the spoilers Caim... You never know if that might happen, you also spoiled both versions. Wait a minute... is treehouse doing the localization for this...? |
Feb 29, 2016 3:48 PM
#38
Vanisher said: Nah, "everyone lives" was just an inference I made. If you're removing a death scene, of course you're going to end up with this "everyone lives" ending.TR-8RCaim said: Vanisher said: TR-8RCaim said: This is bad. This is really bad. Removing a death scene in favor of a "Everyone lives" ending. This looks like something you can't just patch back in either. Shit, this is really bad. What the fuck were they thinking? "Only kids will play this so let's make it kid-friendly" Shit. Fuck you for the spoilers Caim... You never know if that might happen, you also spoiled both versions. Wait a minute... is treehouse doing the localization for this...? |
Feb 29, 2016 4:18 PM
#39
An internal Squeenix team did this for the EU. For NA, it's not known who will do it. Might as well be Treehouse, we'll see. |
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Feb 29, 2016 4:32 PM
#41
SMTIV FINAL please come to the west to save my 3ds. |
Feb 29, 2016 4:34 PM
#42
How often does this happen? Is there a list somewhere? The only older game I can think of is Ace Combat 3. |
Feb 29, 2016 4:40 PM
#43
Nintendo strike again. They already ruin FE for me already and now it look like BS. Same goes, if no Dual audio, it is over. |
Feb 29, 2016 5:44 PM
#44
Questionable changes. I'd like to hear their explanation for this. |
Feb 29, 2016 5:50 PM
#45
First Fire Emblem Fates gets altered and now this? |
Feb 29, 2016 6:01 PM
#46
don't buy it then make it clear that these sort of practices are not acceptable. |
Feb 29, 2016 7:18 PM
#47
FE:IF wasn't too bad, but removing a complete ending...? That's kinda too much. |
Feb 29, 2016 7:41 PM
#48
Not buying the game isn't really going to hinder the company. You just miss out on the game unless fans correct it. |
Feb 29, 2016 7:47 PM
#49
Nintendo is a business. They rely on money. They rely on your purchases. Not buying the game does hinder them. |
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