| Being able to both detect and emit killing intent is a common theme in anime. Do you guys think such a thing exists in real life? |
| I mean if someone was staring me down with a knife in their hand then I'd feel some sort of killing intent tbh Sense of danger's what it's all about, I'd guess. If you create a trigger that would put someone on edge(staring at a stranger in a creepy place like a subway at night, or holding a weapon) would set anyone on edge, but combined with body language a killing intent would certainly be there and would make anyone fearful for their lives(and enter fight or flight) either way, the way anime does it is totally untrue lmao, you can't just omit a killing intent to people around you whenever you feel like it like it goes in anime tbh |
| Nah, as Nagirah said it's really just reading their body language. Like how do they behave, are they nervous, how do they talk etc. stuff like that. If you mean like in Parasyte they feel it when there's a killing intent, then no you won't feel it like that. |
| No, It's just another anime cliche. |
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| Would be handy to figure out if loanshark X is aiming to ruin your life |
| Killing intent like projecting your killing intentions in the other person doesn't exist in real life. Anyway, I think that some anime characters use aura to intimidate/shown killing intent to their opponent (like Kenpachi in Bleach). |
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| In shonen battle makes sense emitting killing intent, since they have stuff like, reiatsu, ki, nen, chakra etc... But in real life no, maybe if you find certain people having shady vibes probably you should keep your distance from them i guess. |
BenXBlack93Feb 24, 2016 2:48 PM
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| I can sense it back when I'm in middle school, I can also detect people presence using ki but lately I can't do those things anymore. Jk aside, to a certain extent, those kind of things exist, you just know that someone is trying to kill you if he hold a knife and having an ahegao expression while walking slowly toward you... It's all about your sense of danger. |
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| I mean, I bet it would be pretty easy to tell when someone wants to kill you. You obviously wouldn't feel waves of pressure or anything like that, but it's not like you couldn't pick up on it either. |
| We're genetically designed to look at people's eyes and mouth to determine whether if that person is either friendly or hostile. If someone is glaring at you and grinding their teeth with their fists clenched then you should just run. But to sense a killing intent enough to realize that someone is in a tower somewhere with a bow and arrow aimed at you, no that's just bullshit. |
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| I don't claim anything about sensing the killing intent of someone but for some other reason sometimes i can tell if a person behind me is looking at me. i mean one day i was waiting the traffic light and i (for no reason ) instinctively turned my head 270 degree to find a couple staring at me. its the same when i do that to other people... some of them turn their head and look back at you as if you had called them. Maybe i'm paranoid? |
RinFTW said: It's our evolutionary trait to be sensitive to when something is looking at us. It's a defense mechanism. Staring at the back of their heads and having them turn around? I don't know about that, because it's probably coincidental that they turned around and noticed that you are looking at them. But for you to turn your head, it's something that the people behind you will take notice of, so they'll look at you because they're curious about what you're turning around for. It's actually a natural thing. I usually take notice of people looking at me when I'm on the subway or at the bank.I don't claim anything about sensing the killing intent of someone but for some other reason sometimes i can tell if a person behind me is looking at me. i mean one day i was waiting a traffic light and i (for no reason ) instinctively turned my head 270 degree to find a couple staring at me. its the same when i do that to other people... some of them turn their head and look back at you as if you called them. Maybe i'm paranoid? So lesson of the day is: don't stare at chicks at the gym just because you think they can't tell. They'll fucking know right away and find you creepy. Experiences of a 16 year old me. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| ... "anime cliché"... "reading body language".... Sensing killing intent (sakki in japanese) is a thing from the old martial arts so that's not recent at all... And it involve being able to sense and dodge someone attackign you from behind or while being blindfolded so body language my ass... There are still martial artists able to pass the required conditions on this nowadays too. The Bujinkan is still practising training and mastering of this skill you know. ... Well no, you don't. Of course in anime it's often exaggerated due to characters having supernatural powers. But it's not something recent nor something anime created, and it really IS practised since a long time ago, so how about starting by getting your fact straight, peoples. One day someone on MAL is going to say that the dogeza is an anime cliché at this rate. Edit : here, found it for you on wikipedia in English : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan In order to attain fifth dan (godan), fourth dan practitioners must submit to a sakki (or godan) test before the sōke to establish that they are able to sense the presence of danger and evade it, which is considered a fundamental survival skill. |
ZefyrisFeb 24, 2016 5:21 PM
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Zefyris said: That just sounds like depending on your other senses to pick what your eyes can't. So you're telling me that movie where Jean Claud Van Dam was blinded and had to fight, he wasn't just using his hyper amplified senses due to his blindness, but was sensing something so vaguely called "killing intent"? Ok.... "anime cliché"... "reading body language".... Sensing killing intent (sakki in japanese) is a thing from the old martial arts so that's not recent at all... And it involve being able to sense and dodge someone attackign you from behind or while being blindfolded so body language my ass... There are still martial artists able to pass the required conditions on this nowadays too. The Bujinkan is still practising training and mastering of this skill you know. ... Well no, you don't. Of course in anime it's often exaggerated due to characters having supernatural powers. But it's not something recent nor something anime created, and it really IS practised since a long time ago, so how about starting by getting your fact straight, peoples. One day someone on MAL is going to say that the dougeza is an anime cliché at this rate. Holding onto traditional meanings sounds pretty foolish to me. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
CrappyGod-sama said: Zefyris said: That just sounds like depending on your other senses to pick what your eyes can't. So you're telling me that movie where Jean Claud Van Dam was blinded and had to fight, he wasn't just using his hyper amplified senses due to his blindness, but was sensing something so vaguely called "killing intent"? Ok.... "anime cliché"... "reading body language".... Sensing killing intent (sakki in japanese) is a thing from the old martial arts so that's not recent at all... And it involve being able to sense and dodge someone attackign you from behind or while being blindfolded so body language my ass... There are still martial artists able to pass the required conditions on this nowadays too. The Bujinkan is still practising training and mastering of this skill you know. ... Well no, you don't. Of course in anime it's often exaggerated due to characters having supernatural powers. But it's not something recent nor something anime created, and it really IS practised since a long time ago, so how about starting by getting your fact straight, peoples. One day someone on MAL is going to say that the dougeza is an anime cliché at this rate. Holding onto traditional meanings sounds pretty foolish to me. Found it for you on wikipedia in English : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan wikipedia said: In order to attain fifth dan (godan), fourth dan practitioners must submit to a sakki (or godan) test before the sōke to establish that they are able to sense the presence of danger and evade it, which is considered a fundamental survival skill. I'm not the one telling you. This is an old martial art practice and tests are practised by very high level martial artists to master this. |
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| Yes, you definitely can emit or detect killing intent. Well, at least you can surely detect it.. I mean, didn't you have that one kid back in middle school who hated your guts and compulsively wanted to start a fight with you every time he or she saw you? They obviously would never me do but I could sense it. It's definitely about the body language imo.. |
Zefyris said: No, I'm completely aware of this. I just don't think it's something that should be brought forth to completely disregard the idea of body language. Even martial arts practitioners pay close attention to every minute detail in body movement and predict enemy movements based off of them. To bring up this semantic and disregard body language as a means to sense danger is just not a very convincing conclusion.CrappyGod-sama said: That just sounds like depending on your other senses to pick what your eyes can't. So you're telling me that movie where Jean Claud Van Dam was blinded and had to fight, he wasn't just using his hyper amplified senses due to his blindness, but was sensing something so vaguely called "killing intent"? Ok. Holding onto traditional meanings sounds pretty foolish to me. Found it for you on wikipedia in English : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan wikipedia said: In order to attain fifth dan (godan), fourth dan practitioners must submit to a sakki (or godan) test before the sōke to establish that they are able to sense the presence of danger and evade it, which is considered a fundamental survival skill. I'm not the one telling you. This is an old martial art practice and tests are practised by very high level martial artists to master this. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| I don't know if it is a scientific phenomena, but we can detect danger by reading body language. Most of the time, you can tell if a person is unsavory bny looking at them. |
CrappyGod-sama said: Zefyris said: No, I'm completely aware of this. I just don't think it's something that should be brought forth to completely disregard the idea of body language. Even martial arts practitioners pay close attention to every minute detail in body movement and predict enemy movements based off of them. To bring up this semantic and disregard body language as a means to sense danger is just not a very convincing conclusion.Found it for you on wikipedia in English : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bujinkan I'm not the one telling you. This is an old martial art practice and tests are practised by very high level martial artists to master this. This test is clearly practised WITHOUT looking at the other person's body. So avoiding sakki in martial art involves beng able to avoid an attack without relying on body language at all. That's what I'm telling you here. What you're talking about isn't what's called "killing intent" by martial artists. I'm not telling you to believe it exists. I'm more than sceptical myself after all. BUT. This is something that is practised at high level by martial artists, and it doesn't involve body language. It isn't an anime cliché, isn't somethign recent, and the like. That's what I'm telling. Believing or not that it's really possible is another matter. But it IS something that is part of martial art since a veeery long time. And again, no body language involved here. |
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Zefyris said: Nevermind, friend. I know what you're trying to tell me. I understand. I was just saying something else. I know that you're trying to /thread this whole thing by giving a technical definition of something.CrappyGod-sama said: No, I'm completely aware of this. I just don't think it's something that should be brought forth to completely disregard the idea of body language. Even martial arts practitioners pay close attention to every minute detail in body movement and predict enemy movements based off of them. To bring up this semantic and disregard body language as a means to sense danger is just not a very convincing conclusion. This test is clearly practised WITHOUT looking at the other person's body. So avoiding sakki in martial art involves beng able to avoid an attack without relying on body language at all. That's what I'm telling you here. What you're talking about isn't what's called "killing intent" by martial artists. I'm not telling you to believe it exists. I'm more than sceptical myself after all. BUT. This is something that is practised at high level by martial artists, and it doesn't involve body language. It isn't an anime cliché, isn't somethign recent, and the like. That's what I'm telling. Believing or not that it's really possible is another matter. But it IS something that is part of martial art since a veeery long time. And again, no body language involved here. |
| I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives. |
| Yes, I believe in ESP which, if honed, could theoretically allow you to detect killing intent, or any intent for that matter. However, increasing your skills to that level would require a path that defies reason. |
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| As it is generally portrayed in anime series, no, it does not exist; just like chakra, stuff like inner energy or whatever. I know I may offend some people by saying this, but nothing of that as ever been proven; it's just a belief, created by some people. Nagirah said: I would call bullshit on that, but I suppose you could somewhat guess from a person's body language and facial expressions if you're skilled enough. This is probably what is the closest to what you're talking about. There's a pretty high percentage of the communication process which is not even done by actually talking, but just by using your body (posture, eye contact or not, tone of voice, etc.) So, I guess that, if you're skilled enough, you may be able to perceive a lot of things that others would probably never be able to grasp. Still, if some individuals could easily determine if someone has a killing intend or not, let me tell you that these persons would be overused to find those that are seriously thinking about killing people, to prevent unfortunate developments. But, that doesn't exist, mostly because there is way too much variability from one another, in the way they express themselves or use their body to communicate, and there's also many different things that can affect the behavior of someone. |
| I've heard of martial artists being able to tell from a change in air pressure/temperature. Alternatively, wait for the other to scream they'll kill you. |
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| I dunno but I can feel when a homeless person is gonna ask me for money or not when walking by one. If I train that ability I might be able to go even deeper. |
| Yes you can feel that I have many relatives that went to prison most likely if you look them in the eyes I don't quite explain it but you can tell. |
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| I think you would know when someone wants to try and kill you |
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| Killling intent? Nah, that's bs. Sexual intent, though. That's legit. No but really, it's just an anime thing, like cutting someone so fast that it takes a couple of seconds for them to realize it. |
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| It's just an anime thing. It is as likely to exist in real life as your waifus. |
huronvalley said: I agree about the physiological processes the brain undergoes when deciding when someone is hostile, but what about people who are highly empathetic, or highly in-tuned with one's emotions?? Think if someone they knew for a long time was about to commit murder... would they pick up on that?? I mean I understand what empathy is, but does being a highly empathetic person mean you can pick up on how a person will behave in a situation due to their emotions?? Emotions and thoughts are chemical processes inside the brain. Since people have no sensory organs that can pick up information from inside someone else's head, you can not know what they are thinking. Reading body language is a different thing. You can pick up all sorts of information from it. |
huronvalley said: Awesome. I 100% agree, but these chemical processes known as emotions will have an impact on these body cues right, so then could someone ascertain if one has a murderous intent towards them??? I mean they're so enraged to the point of murder. Unless you're highly trained to beat this type of test (essentially what a lie detector basically does). Well, emotions affect body language, and you can read some of their emotions through that. Eaen said: You can't definitely know what someone is thinking, but you can infer what someone is thinking by their circumstances are. People with similar views and similar brain processing regions can know what each person is thinking about without any sensory organ. People also have mirror neurons and a theory of mind (everyone does)- so you can 'know' what other people are thinking about. Maybe not the 'know 100%' but certainly 'know 75%' from just pure circumstantial speculation. Psychopaths/sociopaths also have this ability, but they just don't have the emotional part attached to it (associated with feeling what other people are feeling). Also psychopaths with higher intelligence do not have to self-deceive themselves to commit murder or do acts that are considered aggressive, because they have no value function associated with people being killed. Although they can intellectualize a person's value/worth and utility however. Strongly emphatic people would not be able to decipher a person's intentions and motives if the person in question does not have a corresponding match in (a) information processing features (b) same value functions associated with executive functioning in relation to other human beings (c) people without a theory of mind (d) people who are incapable of self-deception I did not factor in the empathy side of this. I'm no neuroscientist nor psychologist, so I did make a mistake on that. |
| I'm not a professional, but I think it's posdible from a certain degree. |
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| From what science knows, people might have well-honed ability to discern minor changes in their environment (shadows, concealed footsteps, birds stopping singing...), and summarize them as "danger" to the consciousness. Humans are surprisingly good at sensory processing, and our computers can't hope to match that yet. Martial artists are likely to rationalize this feeling as something like "killing intent" or "presence", just like how they rationalize the power of their bodies with stuff like "chi". Some of the more extreme anime results, such as sensing sniper aiming at you over kilometers, would require actual ESP. It hasn't been proven to exist, but we can't be sure it doesn't. |
| GUYS, killing intent is actually a scent thing. I remember reading about this a while back, when people are trying to kill, they usually emit some kind of hormone that gives off a barely detectable scent. You can't even really smell it, but your subconcious brain picks up on it and tells you to move. It's a real thing, look it up. |
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| Not in the way that anime portrays in, no. You're not going to know when some guy over in the next town a mile away is pointing their sniper rifle at you, simple as. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| Seriously? Seriously? Awakening Your Sixth Sense xD |
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| Some people are very good at reading others, but it's not a definitive skill. People can be unpredictable, especially those that got something to hide. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: Some people are very good at reading others, but it's not a definitive skill. People can be unpredictable, especially those that got something to hide. This person's right I think. It might not exist but body language and features can be used to notice it. |
| You can't feel it? Sounds like you need more training. |
| If you imagine something like an aura or smth, then yeah, it's pure bullshit. But people can certainly give off certain signals about their desires (killing someone would be one) through their body language. And some people can certainly read behavioral patterns. But nothing like this  lol |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| Serious answer: Yes, it does exist. Not the same way it does in anime, obviously, but one can feel killing intent. Most trained martial artist can feel if an attack intends to seriously maim or kill. It's an instinct that remains from when we were less evolved. Haven't you ever seen someone and instantly felt that you want to get away from him really fast? |
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DmonHiro said: Serious answer: Yes, it does exist. Not the same way it does in anime, obviously, but one can feel killing intent. Most trained martial artist can feel if an attack intends to seriously maim or kill. It's an instinct that remains from when we were less evolved. Haven't you ever seen someone and instantly felt that you want to get away from him really fast? Hahahaha. no Like, do you seriously believe that they "feel" something? They can just measure the motion and wideness of an attack. It's not like their spider sense starts tingling or smth. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| If you see someone with a creepy arse smile or just pure anger while carrying a weapon, yeah, I think you can spot the intent. :3 |
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