layfonkun said: Rei from HSOD, show actually works better without her even if she was hot. Bringing up your ex every time you get mad is not a way to endear yourself to others. You're in a zombie apocalypse, either get over it and fuck him or shut the hell up and let Saeko shine like the boss she is. Actually, people problems arising as soon as there's no immediate danger is a tradition in zombie apocalypse stories. It wasn't even that bad in HSotD. Because without that, the zombies would've been too easy. SkullProX said: @tsundereheart @tsudecimo The main i dont like him is because his ideals-no matter the reasons- and his faceand everything. One of the first anime I've watched was Trigun. Since that time, I can't hate people who have ideals. (Well, I liked them even before that, because I'm a proud warrior race guy.) |
| @flannan It's not that he has ideals, but WHAT are his ideals which annoys me :D |
| Oh god, yes it can. A few examples. UtaPri. Haruka was her name? But yeah, I scored two seasons pretty high (which is 7; and dropped third) just because boys were likable. If not for them, the score would be much worse (welp, to be honest, if I'd rewatch it now, the score wouldn't be 7). Amnesia. Again, reverse harem. But this time, the boys didn't really help much. Just generally, I don't like main girl from most reverse harems I've watched. Accel World. I dropped it because I didn't like the main characters. And I'm too lazy to think about other MC who annoyed me. It's good if there are a few MCs so you can hate one, but like the others. In conclusion, I might not necessarily drop an anime because I don't like some characters, but it will definitely affect the score. |
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NickDrake said: Yes, to a moderate to high extent. Me hating Yukiteru and Shinji is partly why I hated Mirai Nikki and the original Evangelion so much, because they show themselves throughout their whole respective series to be horrid characters and it makes me actively root against them in the show. I thought Renton Thurston from Eureka Seven was gonna be a Shinji 2.0, but as the series progressed and he matured and progressed, I grew to like him as a character and a person, which greatly increased the appeal of the series to me. Then I watched Astral Ocean and I couldn't stand its MC so I dropped it If you're rooting for anyone in Mirai Nikki, you're watching the anime wrong. You're not supposed to root for anyone. |
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TheBrainintheJar said: If you're rooting for anyone in Mirai Nikki, you're watching the anime wrong. You're not supposed to root for anyone. Why? It's easy to identify with the MC (especially for those people who don't have a warrior's spirit), and there are plenty of worthy people there. And some pitiable people who would be saved in a more light-hearted story. Of course, reveling in destruction done by Yuuno is fun too (especially for those people who have a warrior's spirit), but that can't be the only right way to enjoy Mirai Nikki. You know, artistic perfection and realism aren't something everybody should enjoy. Let them find their own reasons to like an anime. |
| I will ony dislike characters that are poorly presented. The character can be a crybaby, an asshole prick, quiet outshined by sidechars, an evil ruthless bastard, that I may not enjoy, if at least he is not an one dimensional, predictable and overcliche mothaphucka |
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| For me it depends on how much focus is placed on the main character alone.. for example, in some anime even the side characters get plenty of screentime and development so the not so likeable main character doesn't make the show unwatchable.. but if the focus is only placed on the main character and he's not likeable at all.. then yeah, it's hard to keep watching. |
| I got simple prories. A) Hero is anoying as fuck, but do not do sensless things: OK, i can leave it be i will cry but accept it. B) Hero is OP, and 'smart', but actually retarded, and goes through lake by swimmin' instead of taking boat wich was right next to him: No? C) Cryba...: NO. NO TO MANY OF THOSE THANK YOU. I will stay with my mahouka ;-; D) Calm but hardcorly retarded mc with sensful wise friends... Well. I could live with it. |
| Ofcourse it can, except if the MC is supposed to be annoying, than the show is doing a good job. |
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| Plot armor..... if the story needs mc to be fucking jackass then so be it (mikado is so fucking dense but i still rate durarara high) BUT if the story doesnt actually need the mc to be a fucking eyesore then sorry, u got to  |
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Are you talking about Shirou ? Pretty simple .Basically his belief is that saving people is something that can't possibly be wrong . And so he strived to be like Kerry .But....the point of UBW is showing how his ideals aren't truly his ........I'll go on and on but unless someone asks I won't even bother to say why people find his ideal beautiful . |
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flannan said: TheBrainintheJar said: If you're rooting for anyone in Mirai Nikki, you're watching the anime wrong. You're not supposed to root for anyone. Why? It's easy to identify with the MC (especially for those people who don't have a warrior's spirit), and there are plenty of worthy people there. And some pitiable people who would be saved in a more light-hearted story. Of course, reveling in destruction done by Yuuno is fun too (especially for those people who have a warrior's spirit), but that can't be the only right way to enjoy Mirai Nikki. You know, artistic perfection and realism aren't something everybody should enjoy. Let them find their own reasons to like an anime. Because the whole cast of Mirai Nikki is made of crazy, narrow-minded people who bring their own downfall. They're far from imperfect. We're invited to understand them, not to root for them. The series tells you about the other characters and shows you their points of view. |
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| I recently watched School Days, and in that, most people really really hate Makoto, the protagonist, and so did I to some extent. But me disliking him didn't translate into me disliking the show, it's what made the show good and interesting to me. If you were to consider him a villain (which he technically isn't really) then he'd be one of my favorite villain simply because of how much I like to hate him. |
| No not really. Most animes i have seen i haven't really liked the main character but there is always other characters i like, for a show to be ruined for me it would have to been so boring i struggle to even get through an episode. |
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| Sometimes. One of the problems I had with Inuyasha was that I didn't like him to the core. Death Note I didn't like Light either, but the real issue with Death Note was how stale it got after L died, not my discontent for the main character. |
| For me it does! There was many animes that I lost interest thanks to the MC, I finished it, but I spent the whole time thinking "why I keep watching?" or I finish coz there was some character that I liked. Some examples of MC's I hate: Eren (AOT) and Shu (GC), but the list is big... |
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flannan said: Strawberrycake48 said: Shirou's presence definitely ruined Fate/Stay Night & UBW for me, and Tatsuya ruined Mahouka for me. Also, a lot of Shoujo anime have crap leads, so I don't end up supporting the couple at all :/ Obviously the MC is one of the most important components to an anime, yet for some reason, they're always the least interesting and most cliched!! These two paragraphs taken together are very funny. Tatsuya is the only male version of Nagato Yuki I've ever seen, and yet you complain about him being cliched. Well that's it. I'm not talking about Nagato, I'm talking about Tatsuya. Yuki wasn't the MC, so maybe that's why her character worked better in the anime- she also actually had emotions, they just took a lot to wring out. Tatsuya is literally void of emotion aside from his love for Miyuki, and that ruined the anime for me...I can't connect with a main character who feels little, rarely reacts to anything emotionally and imo is so OP that the fights lose all tension. I'll admit, he's a badass, but not MY preferred breed of badass! ;) |
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| If the MC is EXTREMELY bad, or the the rest of the anime isn't that good, then yes. |
Strawberrycake48 said: flannan said: These two paragraphs taken together are very funny. Tatsuya is the only male version of Nagato Yuki I've ever seen, and yet you complain about him being cliched. Well that's it. I'm not talking about Nagato, I'm talking about Tatsuya. Yuki wasn't the MC, so maybe that's why her character worked better in the anime- she also actually had emotions, they just took a lot to wring out. Tatsuya is literally void of emotion aside from his love for Miyuki, and that ruined the anime for me...I can't connect with a main character who feels little, rarely reacts to anything emotionally and imo is so OP that the fights lose all tension. I'll admit, he's a badass, but not MY preferred breed of badass! ;) Tatsuya does have emotions unrelated to Miyuki. He would often help people just because he can, something robots won't do. He is said to dislike their stepmother (just like Miyuki). His emotions just never become too strong. Anyway, it does nothing to invalidate the fact that you didn't like him as a main character. As long as you understand that it's not because he's generic - it's alright. |
flannan said: Strawberrycake48 said: Well that's it. I'm not talking about Nagato, I'm talking about Tatsuya. Yuki wasn't the MC, so maybe that's why her character worked better in the anime- she also actually had emotions, they just took a lot to wring out. Tatsuya is literally void of emotion aside from his love for Miyuki, and that ruined the anime for me...I can't connect with a main character who feels little, rarely reacts to anything emotionally and imo is so OP that the fights lose all tension. I'll admit, he's a badass, but not MY preferred breed of badass! ;) Tatsuya does have emotions unrelated to Miyuki. He would often help people just because he can, something robots won't do. He is said to dislike their stepmother (just like Miyuki). His emotions just never become too strong. Anyway, it does nothing to invalidate the fact that you didn't like him as a main character. As long as you understand that it's not because he's generic - it's alright. It doesn't matter if he's generic or not- isn't that kind of a subjective term anyway, depending on what anime you've watched? I guess I'll admit that he's not generic as an MC because there aren't many nearby emotionless leads around that I can think of, although there are a lot of supporting characters that have emotionless, stoic personalities! It's a shame though, I liked a lot of the other characters- I don't feel like they got enough spotlight. |
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| I can still enjoy a good anime with a bad mc but it severely impairs it. |
arms98 said: Atikal said: ruined FSN for me. I hate Shirou so much When deen fate was the only anime that was out that makes sense, but now that ubw is here this man needs a break from all of this heat. I really don't understand why people hate him so much. Even if you find his actions to be retarded (which they are) with all of the reasoning behind them its kinda weird to still hate him. I havent' even watched the anime yet, I've only played the VN. |
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| I suppose it might be possible for there to be a good show with a shitty MC but I can't say that I've seen one. Having a really bad MC is a pretty fundamental flaw that most writers can avoid so usually shows that fail in that regard also fail in a bunch of other regards. |
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SeibaaHomu said: I suppose it might be possible for there to be a good show with a shitty MC but I can't say that I've seen one. Having a really bad MC is a pretty fundamental flaw that most writers can avoid so usually shows that fail in that regard also fail in a bunch of other regards. It's mostly about MCs with a personality that individual watchers dislike. Unless the MC is a personalityless lump of protagonism like many harem MCs, there are bound to be a few people who find him/her disagreeable. The stronger the personality, the more haters. Worse yet, personalityless MCs have their haters too. |
| I'm having trouble finding the energy to watch To Love-Ru because of the MC, he is such a wimp all he does is cry about everything, it's really sad and pathetic. Oh, he's also infatuated with that ugly short haired girl,she's all he thinks about, Lala chases him around and he just ignores her for the girl who looks like a boy. We need more MC's who aren't such wimps, Akatsuki is the perfect MC and we need more like him, he doesn't constantly doubt himself, he isn't horrible with women and he knows what he wants. Rito may develop into a more appealing character as the story progresses, but it will take me a while to watch those episodes. |
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Isuru said: Akatsuki is the perfect MC and we need more like him, he doesn't constantly doubt himself, he isn't horrible with women and he knows what he wants. Which Akatsuki are you talking about? This name is a bit too common. Akatsuki Kojou from Strike the Blood? Akatsuki Ousawa from Hagure Yuusha no Estetica? (these are just two from the long list of Akatsukis that I know are harem protagonists) |
flannan said: Which Akatsuki are you talking about? This name is a bit too common. You're right, sorry about that, I'm new here. I'm talking about Akatsuki from Aesthetica of a Rogue Hero. Akatsuki from Strike the Blood is fairly weak and always needs help, that aside he is a fairly decent MC. |
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| Look, I get why people don't find wimpy MCs appealing but there's a fine line between confident badass and borderline rapist. |
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SeibaaHomu said: Look, I get why people don't find wimpy MCs appealing but there's a fine line between confident badass and borderline rapist. I'd say Nurarihyon no Mago's Rikuo of the Night is a confident badass, but Akatsuki Ousawa from Hagure Yuusha no Estetica is a borderline rapist. |
| I was not a major fan of Bell or Hestia in DanMachi. In fact, there are side characters who would make the show much better from their point of view. Bell for being a generic spineless MC who keeps screaming in cringe-worthy ways. And Hestia for being annoying as sin. (Seriously that "BELL-KUN SHOULDN'T BE AROUND OTHER GIRLS" shit killed any chance of me liking her) |
| The MC in HDXD made me stop at episode 1 |
Aoepsa said: yeah lmao i mainly stay out of all harem animes because the mcs are disgustingly awfull, also i stopped watching alot of animes because of the mcs (zero no tsukaima, charlotte, gate, Noragami, etc...). i was gonna stop watching mirai nikki but i ended up really liking the mc in the end so yeah.. i think the only anime i watched til end with an anoying af mc was rokka no yuusha and that was only because i really REALLY like the story You stopped watching Noragami, but finished Mirai Nikki and the protagonist was the deciding factor? How!? |
| I ended up checking out Towa no Quon and my God the MC is the biggest Gary-Stu ever. Combine all the Gary-Stuness of all the shounen/action/harem shows I've seen and Quon is still the worst. It doesn't help that his alter-ego Insania reminds me of a Sonic cosplay. Nothing like Sonic to make me feel nauseous. Tbh Towa no Quon wouldn't be a masterpiece anyway even without the shitty protagonist, but at least I could call it 'decent'. But apparently any amateur fanfiction enthusiast is allowed to write anime plots these days. |
| I know that i didn't not enjoy gosick as much as i should have because of how goddamn annoying and useless the main character was. I understand the story wouldn't have worked if Victorique was the main character but that isn't an excuse. |
| Q: The world won't change, you must change yourself in this world. Now, how will you change yourself? A: Become the god of the new world. |
| Yes, it can ruin the show. I disliked some anime because I hate the MC |
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| Disliked SnK because of Eren and Mikasa. SAO's MCs are even more unbearable. |
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mimiiria said: I ended up checking out Towa no Quon and my God the MC is the biggest Gary-Stu ever. Combine all the Gary-Stuness of all the shounen/action/harem shows I've seen and Quon is still the worst. It doesn't help that his alter-ego Insania reminds me of a Sonic cosplay. Nothing like Sonic to make me feel nauseous. Tbh Towa no Quon wouldn't be a masterpiece anyway even without the shitty protagonist, but at least I could call it 'decent'. But apparently any amateur fanfiction enthusiast is allowed to write anime plots these days. Gary Stu? Wasn't he just an ordinary superhero, the kind Americans love so much? Aoepsa said: yeah lmao i mainly stay out of all harem animes because the mcs are disgustingly awfull, also i stopped watching alot of animes because of the mcs (zero no tsukaima, charlotte, gate, Noragami, etc...). i was gonna stop watching mirai nikki but i ended up really liking the mc in the end so yeah.. i think the only anime i watched til end with an anoying af mc was rokka no yuusha and that was only because i really REALLY like the story I feel you are missing out on a lot of good stuff. |
flannan said: mimiiria said: I ended up checking out Towa no Quon and my God the MC is the biggest Gary-Stu ever. Combine all the Gary-Stuness of all the shounen/action/harem shows I've seen and Quon is still the worst. It doesn't help that his alter-ego Insania reminds me of a Sonic cosplay. Nothing like Sonic to make me feel nauseous. Tbh Towa no Quon wouldn't be a masterpiece anyway even without the shitty protagonist, but at least I could call it 'decent'. But apparently any amateur fanfiction enthusiast is allowed to write anime plots these days. Gary Stu? Wasn't he just an ordinary superhero, the kind Americans love so much? |
| disliking MC is basically disliking the entire show to me, because MC tend to have the most screen time, and keep watching character you dislike is suffering... i usually wont continue a show if i disliked the MC from the first several episodes, the only time i persisted through the finish despite disliking the MC is death note....just because i want to see light's downfall |
| If lelouch and Light Yagami were pussies I would have dropped that show in a heartbeat. |
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| Accel World It would've been 10/10 if it had a cooler MC. My opinion. Still managed to watch it and did enjoy it. |
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