What are your thoughts on The Fine Bro's failed attempt to copyright every reaction video? (Updated)
| Seems like the Greed Fine Bros backed out of their React World program when the subscribers started dropping harder than a dubstep drop. Here's a link to a twitter message from them: https://medium.com/@FineBrothersEnt/a-message-from-the-fine-brothers-a18ef9b31777#.eaq12ey1n So yeah, congrats guys; The internet won against corporate tyranny. Let this be a message to anyone else who tries to copyright normal shit everyone has the right to do. Read on for the full story if you haven't already. [Original React World video] If you break apart everything they say into context, what their main goal seems to be is further monopolization and expansion of their company by way of copyrighting and licensing. They say they only want to protect their intellectual property, but everything they're doing behind the scenes suggest otherwise. Refer to this Reddit thread for more details: https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43490c/the_fine_bros_from_youtube_are_now_attempting_to/czfpty2 And if everything the Reddit thread says is true about them, The Fine Bros would be entitled to receive a cut of any profits from any videos with "React" in their name, or just reaction videos in general. And considering the fact that react videos are a huge, huge part of YouTube, the community isn't exactly happy with this revelation of theirs, especially with how much they're trying to sugar coat it. Refer to this link that showcases their rapidly decliling subscriber count: http://www.livecounts.x10host.com/?channel=Fine%20Brothers%20Entertainment%EF%BB%BF Already down 1,000 since I got link just a bit ago, and down several dozen more thousand since the project was announced. But now it's in your hands MAL, to figure out if they're in the right or in the wrong. It's only natural to want to protect your intellectual property once it becomes widespread enough, but are they going too far? If this goes through, it will literally change YouTube forever and set a precedent for other companies and corporations to attempt something on the same scale. Decide the fates ~ |
ProtakuFeb 1, 2016 9:45 PM
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| Good idea, hopefully all the shitty reacting channels will stop uploading videos now. |
| I don't know why Reaction Videos have been exempt from copyright for so long other than it makes Youtube the green paper. Fair use can only be stretched so far. // Nvm. I thought this was about Youtube finally taking the videos that steal content down. But after watching the video I see its actually just two cunts trying to take credit for their work too. Business as usual I guess. |
NasalSharkJan 30, 2016 1:21 PM
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| Where they the pioneers on the whole "reacting videos" thingy? I mean if they were the first ones I COULD understand, but still is ridiculous is like if PewDiePie wanted to monopolize all the gameplays, now that would be scary |
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| Everyone defends their favorite youtuber's but its all business all your favorite youtube stars think about is their profits. So this isn't surprising. I get my entertainment from youtuber's I don't worship them like they're all morally upstanding people doing videos for the fans. They do it for the cash,. |
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| reaction videos are all cancer. I could care less, I'm not going to watch them either way. |
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badwolf45f said: Where they the pioneers on the whole "reacting videos" thingy? I mean if they were the first ones I COULD understand, but still is ridiculous is like if PewDiePie wanted to monopolize all the gameplays, now that would be scary They weren't, which makes this sort of funny. |
badwolf45f said: Where they the pioneers on the whole "reacting videos" thingy? I mean if they were the first ones I COULD understand, but still is ridiculous is like if PewDiePie wanted to monopolize all the gameplays, now that would be scary I'm pretty sure people have reacting to cats on YouTube long before they were reacting to anything. At least PewDiePie hasn't tried something so underhanded like this. |
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| Is this...a joke...cuz it ain't funny... |
Spooks said: Everyone defends their favorite youtuber's but its all business all your favorite youtube stars think about is their profits. So this isn't surprising. Yeah, just look at Chibi and how he doesn't want to make vids anymore just because he's not making money off them them anymore. Money makes the world go round I guess. And when you've had a decent taste of money you only want more of it, feat. Fine Bros. |
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Protaku said: badwolf45f said: Where they the pioneers on the whole "reacting videos" thingy? I mean if they were the first ones I COULD understand, but still is ridiculous is like if PewDiePie wanted to monopolize all the gameplays, now that would be scary At least PewDiePie hasn't tried something so underhanded like this. He didn't because is a stupid thing to do lol I wonder by seeing the dislike bar how the finebros would "react" (ha!) when they see all the negativity fuss. |
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| youtube is a great way to give "power" and money to retards who otherwise would sleep on the street. they can try to copyright their stuff - they will fail. btw reacting videos as time capsules? god don't be so full of yourself. no one cares about this shit nowadays and even less in 100 years - teens react to miley cirus twerking....fucking idiots |
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| Remember that time Sony wanted to trademark the words "Let's play", fuckin hell, people are so greedy it's hilarious. |
| get it on your head people they're literally trying to trademark word react..@protaku edit your headline to The Fine Bros Are Trying to Trademark the Word “React”..it will make sense for most of the people |
Bioshocked said: Remember that time Sony wanted to trademark the words "Let's play", fuckin hell, people are so greedy it's hilarious. Wasn't that pretty recently? I'm happy to hear it sounds like it didn't go through. badwolf45f said: He didn't because is a stupid thing to do lol I wonder by seeing the dislike bar how the finebros would "react" (ha!) when they see all the negativity fuss. They're "reacting" by trying to quell all the negativity by deleting critical comments and only spouting more excuses to the comments they can't delete. I sound harsh but that's really what they're doing and it's fairly disappointing to someone who used to be subscribed to them like me. They're essentially attacking free speech at this point. |
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badwolf45f said: Where they the pioneers on the whole "reacting videos" thingy? I mean if they were the first ones I COULD understand, but still is ridiculous is like if PewDiePie wanted to monopolize all the gameplays, now that would be scary That's a good point. We should eradicate (or at least minimize) shitty reaction channels through backlash, not like this. |
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| It's a dick move and I could say something really offensive about them right now, but I won't. |
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ultravigo said: get it on your head people they're literally trying to trademark word react..@protaku edit your headline to The Fine Bros Are Trying to Trademark the Word “React”..it will make sense for most of the people I opted to make the title a result of what that trademark would result in instead. I want people to know the scope of just what this trademark could mean for everyone at a glance instead of having to read the whole OP. Nigami_Shin said: youtube is a great way to give "power" and money to retards who otherwise would sleep on the street. they can try to copyright their stuff - they will fail. btw reacting videos as time capsules? god don't be so full of yourself. no one cares about this shit nowadays and even less in 100 years - teens react to miley cirus twerking....fucking idiots To be honest, most of what they said was just fluff and sugar coating for the monopolization and expansion of their company. |
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Protaku said: ultravigo said: get it on your head people they're literally trying to trademark word react..@protaku edit your headline to The Fine Bros Are Trying to Trademark the Word “React”..it will make sense for most of the people I opted to make the title a result of what that trademark would result in instead. I want people to know the scope of just what this trademark could mean for everyone at a glance instead of having to read the whole OP. Nigami_Shin said: youtube is a great way to give "power" and money to retards who otherwise would sleep on the street. they can try to copyright their stuff - they will fail. btw reacting videos as time capsules? god don't be so full of yourself. no one cares about this shit nowadays and even less in 100 years - teens react to miley cirus twerking....fucking idiots To be honest, most of what they said was just fluff and sugar coating for the monopolization and expansion of their company. my favorite part was when they said "we're now announcing this big thing that will bring us closer than ever before" without saying what it will bring them closer to. |
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ultravigo said: @protaku https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43e6a9/link_inside_in_2014_the_fine_bros_told_its/czhjcks ...oh lord lol at everything they're trying to copyright  |
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ultravigo said: @protaku https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43e6a9/link_inside_in_2014_the_fine_bros_told_its/czhjcks ...oh lord Did they actually made their subs to go after Ellen? *facepalm* Protaku said: They're "reacting" by trying to quell all the negativity by deleting critical comments and only spouting more excuses to the comments they can't delete. I sound harsh but that's really what they're doing and it's fairly disappointing to someone who used to be subscribed to them like me. They're essentially attacking free speech at this point. What I shame, I honestly liked their channel, I didn't watch all their videos but some of them where interesting to see, like that Elders react to Hatsune Miku and such were funny |
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Protaku said: ultravigo said: @protaku https://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/43e6a9/link_inside_in_2014_the_fine_bros_told_its/czhjcks ...oh lord lol at everything they're trying to copyright time to trademark word anime....just got real..... |
Ravioli_Ravioli said: Protaku said: I opted to make the title a result of what that trademark would result in instead. I want people to know the scope of just what this trademark could mean for everyone at a glance instead of having to read the whole OP. To be honest, most of what they said was just fluff and sugar coating for the monopolization and expansion of their company. my favorite part was when they said "we're now announcing this big thing that will bring us closer than ever before" without saying what it will bring them closer to. Yeah, bringing everyone closer to getting copyrighted and having a lawsuit filed against you for reacting to a cat video. What a bunch of great guys. @badwolf45f Yeah, they made some interesting and entertaining videos at some point, but like some people have already mentioned, the quality has been steadily going down over the years to the point where it's little more than trending trends rubbish and now they want to make even more money off their rubbish. How the mighty fall I suppose. |
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| Oh no the youtube resources are running low! |
| I've been here way too long... |
| @badwolf45f yes they did...post from their twitter a/c https://twitter.com/thefinebros/status/513061415016341504 |
| I don't care about fine bros nor other react channels. So w/e. |
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Haha, why didn't I share that video; Good stuff. I'm surprised they haven't copyrighted that video too. |
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They essentially want to copyright a concept just because they're the leader in said concept. Like someone said earlier, that'd be like PewDiePie wanting to copyright Let's Plays; Actually Sony tried that but failed thank fully. I'd be against this even if didn't concern me. |
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Protaku said: Weren't reaction girls (Re:) first ones to do reaction videos? I don't know, I am not into all of these youtube trends like: react, it's just a prank bro, watch me sit on couch and get money, etc.They essentially want to copyright a concept just because they're the leader in said concept. Like someone said earlier, that'd be like PewDiePie wanting to copyright Let's Plays; Actually Sony tried that but failed thank fully. I'd be against this even if didn't concern me. I am mostly just subscribed to movie reviewers and game reviewers. --- |
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ExTamplier said: Protaku said: Weren't reaction girls (Re:) first ones to do reaction videos? I don't know, I am not into all of these youtube trends like: react, it's just a prank bro, watch me sit on couch and get money, etc.They essentially want to copyright a concept just because they're the leader in said concept. Like someone said earlier, that'd be like PewDiePie wanting to copyright Let's Plays; Actually Sony tried that but failed thank fully. I'd be against this even if didn't concern me. I am mostly just subscribed to movie reviewers and game reviewers. I really don't know too much about YouTube history, but apparently The Fine Bros are huge hypocrites since they totally ripped off the idea for Seniors React from this channel and inevitably shut them down: http://web.archive.org/web/20120406235634/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bwWcZ2Eg8&gl=US&hl=en#! |
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| They are not the first for doing shit! This is bullshit! |
| Wait react videos weren't legal before? This video raises more questions than it answers. This reminds me of the time Candy Crush tried to copyright the word "candy." Or the time Coca Cola tried to copyright a shade of red (oh wait) So does that mean Markiplier and Smosh had to ask Fine Bros before they made Reaction videos to Kids React? Does this mean all of the game convention reaction videos, or the movie trailer reaction videos weren't legal? Because the Fine Brothers didn't license it? This is making the Fine Bros look way too sketchy. |
Fine Brothers said: We do not hold a copyright on reaction videos overall. No one can. React World is about licensing FBE's show formats, not just for shows like Kids React, but also others like "Do They Know It?," "Lyric Breakdown," and more. This is similar to TV where you can't make a show substantially similar to "America's Got Talent," but of course you can make a completely different talent competition series. Same deal here. I really don't see a problem with this. They're protecting their own format, that's all. |
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p1k4ch3w said: I really don't see a problem with this. They're protecting their own format, that's all. Is it there format? going to need an online scholar for this one because im pretty sure people did that stuff before they did. |
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p1k4ch3w said: Fine Brothers said: We do not hold a copyright on reaction videos overall. No one can. React World is about licensing FBE's show formats, not just for shows like Kids React, but also others like "Do They Know It?," "Lyric Breakdown," and more. This is similar to TV where you can't make a show substantially similar to "America's Got Talent," but of course you can make a completely different talent competition series. Same deal here. I really don't see a problem with this. They're protecting their own format, that's all. You have to read in between the fine lines and see if their actions back up their words. Apparently not because they completely stole even the format they're trying to copyright from another old YouTube channel: http://web.archive.org/web/20120406235634/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bwWcZ2Eg8&gl=US&hl=en#! You can read more about it in the multiple Reddit links in this thread. |
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p1k4ch3w said: Fine Brothers said: We do not hold a copyright on reaction videos overall. No one can. React World is about licensing FBE's show formats, not just for shows like Kids React, but also others like "Do They Know It?," "Lyric Breakdown," and more. This is similar to TV where you can't make a show substantially similar to "America's Got Talent," but of course you can make a completely different talent competition series. Same deal here. I really don't see a problem with this. They're protecting their own format, that's all. you got it wrong boy....now whenever someone will try to use words teens react,adult react,etc.then they'll get copyright claim/monetized by finebros |
bennitori said: Wait react videos weren't legal before? This video raises more questions than it answers. This reminds me of the time Candy Crush tried to copyright the word "candy." Or the time Coca Cola tried to copyright a shade of red (oh wait) So does that mean Markiplier and Smosh had to ask Fine Bros before they made Reaction videos to Kids React? Does this mean all of the game convention reaction videos, or the movie trailer reaction videos weren't legal? Because the Fine Brothers didn't license it? This is making the Fine Bros look way too sketchy. They're basically trying to make all future reaction videos a part of their profit newtwork, and will take down any react videos that aren't a part of their network and they're already starting that process. Tbh, they were sketchy from the start. |
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| Just greedy ass mofos. They already flagged some random low viewed react video. |
| This was bound to happen when people started getting paid to youtube it stops been for fun and starts been a business now we have dirty business dealings going on in the background all the time and channels undercutting, selling out and copyright claiming other channels. Its a mess. |
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| Didn't believe it until I saw the video. This is just stupid, the heck are they trying to pull? I watch react videos every now and then, and most of the time it's not ones done by the Fine Bros. I'm annoyed at this. |
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lalabella said: I guess they just wanted to prevent a, chain reaction of videos, right?Is this...a joke...cuz it ain't funny... ... I'm sorry. |
Protaku said: p1k4ch3w said: I really don't see a problem with this. They're protecting their own format, that's all. You have to read in between the fine lines and see if their actions back up their words. Apparently not because they completely stole even the format they're trying to copyright from another old YouTube channel: http://web.archive.org/web/20120406235634/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bwWcZ2Eg8&gl=US&hl=en#! You can read more about it in the multiple Reddit links in this thread. Does it matter who did it first? The Fine Brothers are the first to license it. First come, first served. Again, I really don't see the problem here. YouTube is becoming bigger and bigger, and people want a piece of the action. |
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p1k4ch3w said: Protaku said: You have to read in between the fine lines and see if their actions back up their words. Apparently not because they completely stole even the format they're trying to copyright from another old YouTube channel: http://web.archive.org/web/20120406235634/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99bwWcZ2Eg8&gl=US&hl=en#! You can read more about it in the multiple Reddit links in this thread. Does it matter who did it first? The Fine Brothers are the first to license it. First come, first served. Again, I really don't see the problem here. YouTube is becoming bigger and bigger, and people want a piece of the action. Yes, it does matter, because it makes them hypocrites by committing the same crimes they said they frowned upon. And there's nothing wrong with licensing your own brand, but when you're trying to copyright a concept that's when issues start arising. |
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| I used to like TheFineBros, but their videos as of late have gotten stale. The novelty of reaction videos kinda wears off when you're reacting to stuff you'll get a fairly normal reaction out of. (Really, "Elders React to I Love Lucy"? I know every single reaction and I haven't even seen the video.) |
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Nigami_Shin said: That was by far the weirdest part of video. They're wildly delusional to think that "reaction videos" are, or will ever be, of even the slightest historical importance.btw reacting videos as time capsules? god don't be so full of yourself. no one cares about this shit nowadays and even less in 100 years - teens react to miley cirus twerking....fucking idiots |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
CatSoul said: HAHAHA. I can't believe that's actually real. That's basically "People Who Probably Watched I Love Lucy React to I Love Lucy". What's next, "Chefs React to Chopped Onions"?I used to like TheFineBros, but their videos as of late have gotten stale. The novelty of reaction videos kinda wears off when you're reacting to stuff you'll get a fairly normal reaction out of. (Really, "Elders React to I Love Lucy"? I know every single reaction and I haven't even seen the video.) |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Jokes aside, now that I've bothered to watch the video, it's so obvious that they're bullshitting so much about the fact that they want to monopolise the term" react" to the pont it's hilarious. Buzzwords, sob stories, dramatisation, deal sweeteners, accusations, it's all there. Bonus points if you watch the guy who isn't talking during each section of the video. They look so genuine and composed. Totally trustworthy looking. |
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