| I decided to make a top 10 lists of the most influential people in anime and manga. Tell me if you agree with the list or disagree an why you feel that way. If someone you think should be on here I not say why they should be. Feel free to make your own but I think this is pretty accurate. Feel free to discuss and debate the influence of these people. I listed four titles that is related to each person but not necessarily made by them. 10. Naoki Urasawa ( Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto, Master Keaton ) 9. Katsuhiro Otomo ( Akira, Domu: A Child's Dream, Memories, Steamboy ) 8.Kazuo Umezu ( The Drifting Classroom, Left Hand of God, Right Hand of the Devil, Scary Book, Makoto-chan ) 7. Rumiko Takahashi ( Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, Ramna 1/2, Inuyasha ) 6. Go Nagai ( Devilman, Cutey Honey, Mazinger Z, Violence Jack ) 5. Leiji Matsumoto ( Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Queen Millennia ) 4. Kazuo Koike ( Lone Wolf and Cub, Lady Snowblood, Crying Freeman, Golgo 13 ) 3. Hayao Miyazaki ( Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Spirited Away, Princes Mononoke, Future boy Conan ) 2. Akira Toriyama ( Dr Slump, Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger ) 1. Osamu Tezuka ( Astroboy, Black Jack, Phoenix, Adolf ) |
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BlackSabotage said: I decided to make a top 10 lists of the most influential people in anime and manga. Tell me if you agree with the list or disagree an why you feel that way. If someone you think should be on here I not say why they should be. Feel free to make your own but I think this is pretty accurate. Feel free to discuss and debate the influence of these people. I listed four titles that is related to each person but not necessarily made by them. 10. Naoki Urasawa ( Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto, Master Keaton ) 9. Katsuhiro Otomo ( Akira, Domu: A Child's Dream, Memories, Steamboy ) 8.Kazuo Umezu ( The Drifting Classroom, Left Hand of God, Right Hand of the Devil, Scary Book, Makoto-chan ) 7. Rumiko Takahashi ( Urusei Yatsura, Maison Ikkoku, Ramna 1/2, Inuyasha ) 6. Go Nagai ( Devilman, Cutey Honey, Mazinger Z, Violence Jack ) 5. Leiji Matsumoto ( Space Battleship Yamato, Captain Harlock, Galaxy Express 999, Queen Millennia ) 4. Kazuo Koike ( Lone Wolf and Cub, Lady Snowblood, Crying Freeman, Golgo 13 ) 3. Hayao Miyazaki ( Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind, Spirited Away, Princes Mononoke, Future boy Conan ) 2. Akira Toriyama ( Dr Slump, Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, Chrono Trigger ) 1. Osama Tezuka ( Astroboy, Black Jack, Phoenix, Adolf ) Dr Slump FTW |
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| I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. |
| Is this an all time list? Some of these people aren't active anymore. |
| 1. Hayao Miyazaki 2. Yoshiyuki Tomino 3. Hideaki Anno 4. Oshii Mamoru |
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| I can't say I'm at all aware of manga's biggest influences. That said, I think it seems like a solid list, but I feel it ignores the importance of animators and directors, if it's a list for 'anime & manga'. I've also never heard of Umezu before. Please educate. |
wanderingplayboy said: True that.I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. |
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Ckan said: I can't say I'm at all aware of manga's biggest influences. That said, I think it seems like a solid list, but I feel it ignores the importance of animators and directors, if it's a list for 'anime & manga'. I've also never heard of Umezu before. Please educate. A lot of these guys are directors and animators though? Umezu is considered the father of horror manga. He is often referred to as the Stephen King of Japan. |
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IntroverTurtle said: wanderingplayboy said: True that.I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. As big as One Piece is that is all the guy is known for. I was largely aiming at people with multiple important titles. |
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FreshPrinceofMAL said: Why does it matter if theyre active?Is this an all time list? Some of these people aren't active anymore. ButNotForMe said: I didn't mean to do a favorites list.1. Hayao Miyazaki 2. Yoshiyuki Tomino 3. Hideaki Anno 4. Oshii Mamoru |
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BlackSabotage said: Influental doesn't mean they've had a lot of titles. It means that the titles they've come out with(no matter the amount) were good enough to influence people or whatever.IntroverTurtle said: wanderingplayboy said: True that.I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. As big as One Piece is that is all the guy is known for. I was largely aiming at people with multiple important titles. |
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IntroverTurtle said: BlackSabotage said: Influental doesn't mean they've had a lot of titles. It means that the titles they've come out with(no matter the amount) were good enough to influence people or whatever.IntroverTurtle said: wanderingplayboy said: True that.I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. As big as One Piece is that is all the guy is known for. I was largely aiming at people with multiple important titles. Hes still not really as big as the people ive named though. OnPiece is huge but Oda as a mangaka is not. |
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BlackSabotage said: True, and Miyazaki and Tezuka are obviously massive in that regard. On the other hand, I'm not as clear on the level of influence Otomo has had. Leiji and Nagai obviously had a massive influence on both anime and manga.Ckan said: I can't say I'm at all aware of manga's biggest influences. That said, I think it seems like a solid list, but I feel it ignores the importance of animators and directors, if it's a list for 'anime & manga'. I've also never heard of Umezu before. Please educate. A lot of these guys are directors and animators though? I just feel like the list may be missing 'innovative' animators themselves. Then again, it's a 'top 10' list, but maybe we should stray away from that if we don't want to get locked. I'm going to admit i'm pretty ignorant of the real big-name animators, so i'd personally be interested to hear more about guys like these: LeftWingGuerilla said: As far as animators go, Yoshinori Kanada and Yasuo Otsuka are definitely influential, with the former influencing generations of animators with his highly-expressive animation and the latter with introducing a different approach to frame modulation. |
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Ckan said: BlackSabotage said: True, and Miyazaki and Tezuka are obviously massive in that regard. On the other hand, I'm not as clear on the level of influence Otomo has had. Leiji and Nagai obviously had a massive influence on both anime and manga.Ckan said: I can't say I'm at all aware of manga's biggest influences. That said, I think it seems like a solid list, but I feel it ignores the importance of animators and directors, if it's a list for 'anime & manga'. I've also never heard of Umezu before. Please educate. A lot of these guys are directors and animators though? I just feel like the list may be missing 'innovative' animators themselves. Then again, it's a 'top 10' list, but maybe we should stray away from that if we don't want to get locked. I'm going to admit i'm pretty ignorant of the real big-name animators, so i'd personally be interested to hear more about guys like these: LeftWingGuerilla said: As far as animators go, Yoshinori Kanada and Yasuo Otsuka are definitely influential, with the former influencing generations of animators with his highly-expressive animation and the latter with introducing a different approach to frame modulation. I don't know a lot about just animators tbh. All the people ive named have at least made few manga. I wanted people influential in both manga and anime. I do admit I was iffy about putting Katsuhiro Otomo in here lol. |
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| 1. Hayao Miyazaki 2. Satoshi Kon 3. Hideaki Anno 4. Akira Toriyama 5. Mamoru Hosoda 6. Makoto Shinkai 7. Tatsuyuki Nagai 8. Akiyuki Shinbo 9. Tetsuro Araki 10. Takeshi Obata |
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ran614 said: 1. Hayao Miyazaki 2. Satoshi Kon 3. Hideaki Anno 4. Akira Toriyama 5. Mamoru Hosoda 6. Makoto Shinkai 7. Tatsuyuki Nagai 8. Akiyuki Shinbo 9. Tetsuro Araki 10. Takeshi Obata Again I meant most influential not favorites :P |
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wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. He's popular but hardly influential. He's one of the most influenced writers, in fact. He hasn't brought anything new to the table. |
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judals said: wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. He's popular but hardly influential. He's one of the most influenced writers, in fact. He hasn't brought anything new to the table. Hmm... This topic is subjective. Hope you don't mind if I sound a bit fanboy-ish. There was a poll about most influential Japanese, Oda was ranked 50th (which is the first ranked mangaka because even Toriyama was ranked 75th). Also, in a poll about mangaka that changed the history of manga, he ranked the fourth. Sorry can't provide the link. You can google for yourself, though. |
wanderingplayboy said: judals said: wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. He's popular but hardly influential. He's one of the most influenced writers, in fact. He hasn't brought anything new to the table. Hmm... This topic is subjective. Hope you don't mind if I sound a bit fanboy-ish. There was a poll about most influential Japanese, Oda was ranked 50th (which is the first ranked mangaka because even Toriyama was ranked 75th). Also, in a poll about mangaka that changed the history of manga, he ranked the fourth. Sorry can't provide the link. You can google for yourself, though. Cant always go by polls dude. A lot of the time their manipulated by fanboys. |
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wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. Are you mentally challenged or something? I know that you are probably a one piece fanboy but how in the fuck is Oda an influential writer? he is an influenced writer (DB) but he certainly didn't influence anyone or anything even though one piece is so successful. That's probably because he didn't bring anything new. |
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wanderingplayboy said: judals said: wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. He's popular but hardly influential. He's one of the most influenced writers, in fact. He hasn't brought anything new to the table. Hmm... This topic is subjective. Hope you don't mind if I sound a bit fanboy-ish. There was a poll about most influential Japanese, Oda was ranked 50th (which is the first ranked mangaka because even Toriyama was ranked 75th). Also, in a poll about mangaka that changed the history of manga, he ranked the fourth. Sorry can't provide the link. You can google for yourself, though. Polls are popularity contests. Even Araki and Togashi are far more influential writers than he is. If anyone else were to make this list, it'd be them. |
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jal90 said: For some reason I haven't seen a mention to Isao Takahata yet. He is just so damn under-appreciated, it seems. |
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insan3Spectre said: jal90 said: For some reason I haven't seen a mention to Isao Takahata yet. He is just so damn under-appreciated, it seems. Agreed. As much as I like Miyazaki, Takahata should deserve equal recognition as him. |
| I'd list Kishimoto, Oda and Urasawa. 0Gintoki_san0 said: wanderingplayboy said: I know they're important people and all, but if Oda isn't listed, then I don't approve. Are you mentally challenged or something? I know that you are probably a one piece fanboy but how in the fuck is Oda an influential writer? he is an influenced writer (DB) but he certainly didn't influence anyone or anything even though one piece is so successful. That's probably because he didn't bring anything new. No, are you? |
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| I kind of agree with the list, though with all due respect to Naoki Urasawa and what an excellent writer he is, I don't think he's very influential (unfortunately). Also I think both Tomino and Hideaki Anno are missing in that list. They are certainly more influential than he is. Oh and Shirow Masamune is also missing... |
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| I don't think you should put manga and anime together. Anyway, I'm quite surprised nobody mentionned Takehiko Inoue (Slam Dunk, Vagabond, Real). I wouldn't put him in my top 10, mind you, but I'm surprised nobody mentionned him. |
SetsukoHara said: I don't think you should put manga and anime together. Anyway, I'm quite surprised nobody mentionned Takehiko Inoue (Slam Dunk, Vagabond, Real). I wouldn't put him in my top 10, mind you, but I'm surprised nobody mentionned him. Why not? If an anime is based on a manga, and then that anime goes to be recognized globally, along with every bit of its merchandise, it was thanks to the manga in the first place |
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HATUL said: I admit I'm most comfortable with my Top 7. Those are the next three who were most worth mentioning.I kind of agree with the list, though with all due respect to Naoki Urasawa and what an excellent writer he is, I don't think he's very influential (unfortunately). Also I think both Tomino and Hideaki Anno are missing in that list. They are certainly more influential than he is. Oh and Shirow Masamune is also missing... |
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Gorim said: List is quite good and understandable, but definitely lacking Yoshiyuki Tomino. Gundams have been one of the most influential works in anime. I'd personally put Osamu Dezaki in the list, his style in directing has influenced many later artists. I'm thinking you're probably right. |
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| I don't think Rumiko has a place among the most influential people, but i do agree with the rest. The only one i would certainly add to it is Takahata, He's so underappreciated . Miyazaki is a fucking genius, but my favorite Ghibli movie was directed by Takahata |
AstronomyDomine said: Why does Rumiko not deserve to be on there? She's the most successful female mangaka and she has multiple works that extremely popular and famous.I don't think Rumiko has a place among the most influential people, but i do agree with the rest. The only one i would certainly add to it is Takahata, He's so underappreciated . Miyazaki is a fucking genius, but my favorite Ghibli movie was directed by Takahata |
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BlackSabotage said: AstronomyDomine said: Why does Rumiko not deserve to be on there? She's the most successful female mangaka and she has multiple works that extremely popular and famous.I don't think Rumiko has a place among the most influential people, but i do agree with the rest. The only one i would certainly add to it is Takahata, He's so underappreciated . Miyazaki is a fucking genius, but my favorite Ghibli movie was directed by Takahata Probably because i barely know her works and i like Takahata better :P |
AstronomyDomine said: Just because you barely know her works doesn't mean she isn't important. Some people on this site don't even know who Osamu Tezuka is.BlackSabotage said: AstronomyDomine said: Why does Rumiko not deserve to be on there? She's the most successful female mangaka and she has multiple works that extremely popular and famous.I don't think Rumiko has a place among the most influential people, but i do agree with the rest. The only one i would certainly add to it is Takahata, He's so underappreciated . Miyazaki is a fucking genius, but my favorite Ghibli movie was directed by Takahata Probably because i barely know her works and i like Takahata better :P |
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BlackSabotage said: Just because you barely know her works doesn't mean she isn't important. Some people on this site don't even know who Osamu Tezuka is. I never said she wasn't noticeably important for the industry. Heck, she made some really popularly acclaimed and well-received stories that almost everyone has, at least, heard about. But even so, i'd still choose Takahata. |
| Osama Tezuka. I loled. Anyway, you are missing Osamu Dezaki and Isao Takahata, which should qualify for the list. I'd put them on there instead of 1 or 2 mangaka you mentioned. Probably Umezu and Otomo or Koike, as much as I love them. But then again I'm more of an anime guy in general. I insist on Osamu Dezaki on the list though! |
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Higashi_no_Kaze said: Osama Tezuka. I loled. Anyway, you are missing Osamu Dezaki and Isao Takahata, which should qualify for the list. I'd put them on there instead of 1 or 2 mangaka you mentioned. Probably Umezu and Otomo or Koike, as much as I love them. But then again I'm more of an anime guy in general. I insist on Osamu Dezaki on the list though! It took this long for someone to point that out? This place disappoints me sometimes. Also manga > anime IMO. I'm surprised at mention of Osamu Dezaki when some people here never even heard of Osamu Tezuka. |
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BlackSabotage said: Cant always go by polls dude. A lot of the time their manipulated by fanboys. judals said: Polls are popularity contests. Even Araki and Togashi are far more influential writers than he is. If anyone else were to make this list, it'd be them. I predicted some people would say something like this. You know, my point is not that "Oda should be listed there because the majority said so". But, "this is a subjective matter that's why people can claim who's influential and who's not". Like, judals said Togashi is influential. I don't think so. Voters said Oda is influential, you two didn't think so (and it's fine, really). Even I'd rather have Fujiko F. Fujio instead of Rumiko Takahashi, but it's only a matter of opinion and I don't like debating. I myself personally hardly believe in something with no stats, but if Oda was listed there, I'd believe it. Hypocrisy? Idiocy? Nope, just a fan lol 0Gintoki_san0 said: Are you mentally challenged or something? I know that you are probably a one piece fanboy but how in the fuck is Oda an influential writer? he is an influenced writer (DB) but he certainly didn't influence anyone or anything even though one piece is so successful. That's probably because he didn't bring anything new. Not that I disagree, just curious... Why do you think he didn't influence anyone? Why do you think he didn't bring anything new? And the most important question, why do you think you have to bring something new to influence anyone? |
BlackSabotage said: Higashi_no_Kaze said: Osama Tezuka. I loled. Anyway, you are missing Osamu Dezaki and Isao Takahata, which should qualify for the list. I'd put them on there instead of 1 or 2 mangaka you mentioned. Probably Umezu and Otomo or Koike, as much as I love them. But then again I'm more of an anime guy in general. I insist on Osamu Dezaki on the list though! It took this long for someone to point that out? This place disappoints me sometimes. Also manga > anime IMO. I'm surprised at mention of Osamu Dezaki when some people here never even heard of Osamu Tezuka. Not having heard of Osamu Tezuka is kinda sad in this community. Probably more the newtype VN/LN fans, or people who completely ignore manga/comics. When you start reading manga and comics the name pops up about as frequently as Alan Moore, if not more. And in terms of influence manga is probably more important than anime and it has other advantages too. My main reason for focusing more on anime is that I only read manga that I can buy in print versions in english or german, while I can basically watch every anime that is airing. I don't like online reading at all :/. I'm familiar with the names but I'm having a hard time to judge how influential Otomo and Koike are for example, aside from Akira and Golgo 13, and even Golgo 13, while selling extremely well, doesn't strike me as a works that shaped the industry. Osamu Dezaki on the other hand basically represents a whole generation of animation directors and it's hard to point out one of his works that was better or more popular than others (Probably Ashita no Joe, but still). Takahata is similar, but maybe one size smaller than the giant Dezaki. Doesn't have to be up there, but should be up for debate. Another animator worth considering would be Takahashi Ryosuke (Hi no Tori, Fang of the Sun Dagram, Votoms, Flag, Gasaraki etc..). |
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| Shit list. I don't even heard or watch/read half of these list. meh. What about the creator of gundam? dbz? and other really popular manga/anime? Again. Shit list. Very shitty list. Real shit!! |
| Toriyama was no.2.... |
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wanderingplayboy said: Not that I disagree, just curious... Why do you think he didn't influence anyone? Why do you think he didn't bring anything new? And the most important question, why do you think you have to bring something new to influence anyone? Because I didn't see/read any work that was influenced by his only work ''one piece''. Because he didn't?. Because if it's not new then you are not the original influence ( what influenced series like Naruto and Bleach, DB or OP? the answer is DB.) |
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