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Jan 31, 2014 1:17 AM

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For me, it's more of like... Loli = petite, but petite ≠ loli. A character can be an adult but look like a loli in terms of body build/character design (see: everyone in Madoka Magica, tbh)

Age is a determining factor, I think. But of course, in the anime/otaku world, hardly anyone gives a shit about the age. They're labelled as a loli as long as they look like a loli.
Jan 31, 2014 1:28 AM

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well, ask your boner
Jan 31, 2014 1:31 AM
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Axlicious said:
well, ask your boner
what if you get them regardless?

personally I've never bothered using 'petite' as a mid-way characterization but it's pretty easy to see who would fall into which category if I would use it
Jan 31, 2014 2:19 AM

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Alright let me see if I, The #1 Most Wanted on Chris Hanson's most wanted can shed some light on this interesting situation.

A few things to distinguish Petite≠Lolicon≠Toddlercon≠Infantcon
Let's use some helpful (safe for work) images to help us along.

1.) Petite: You may come across characters who are simply petite, they are not Loli's, but may often be referred to as pettanko. They will behave as a normal person would, and are often high school-middle school age or older. A famous character in this category would probably be Ruri Gokou (Oreimo). She is shorter than most of the characters in the series, but does not display particularly "loli" traits.
http://www.entravity.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/oreimo-9-16-kuroneko-gokou-ruri.jpg

2.) Lolicon: This encompasses a mix of NOT ONLY, physical characteristics, BUTALSO outward personality traits as well. Examples can be found throughout numerous mediums, but it essentially boils down to characters who not only LOOK young, but also acts young as well. You may ask yourself "Does this mean Chuunibyou, Tsundere, Kuudere, ect. can not be Loli's because they have different personalities?" The answer NO, a character can possess Loli traits AND other notable personality traits, a necessary condition as there are many times when numerous Loli's will be found in one anime/game. A few images to help get the point across.
http://s.vndb.org/sf/73/52073.jpg
http://s.vndb.org/sf/45/35145.jpg
http://s.vndb.org/sf/76/5376.jpg

3.) Toddlercon: A much younger variety of Lolicon. Characters should appear to be pretty young, and may even look like kindergarteners. They may exhibit difficulties with speaking, and will often behave very childishly. People may argue that Hanyamaru Kindergarten falls into this category.
http://thecajunsamurai.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/zero-raws-hanamaru-kindergarten-10-raw-tx-1280x720-x264-mp4_snapshot_04-24_2010-03-15_21-35-551.jpg
http://s2.postimg.org/pu85iulx5/005.jpg

4.) Infantcon: If you haven't figured out the running trend yet, then this character type represents babies. It's typically far smaller than the other categories, but it does appear from time to time. It's pretty rare for any romance to develop with this character type; however, you will often see it present in "Raising Sims" such as Musumake.

Well, I guess we can safely conclude that the day has once again been saved thanks to ME, THE DARK LORD OTAKU!!!! If you ever need my assistance, again in my future simply whisper into a seashell, and leave it a top of loli doujin on your front step. When you awake in the morning, I'll be there!
Jan 31, 2014 2:23 AM

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Loli's are small and act childlike whist petite girls are more of the average height for girls, act a little mature and are flat chested.

At least, that's how I look at it.
Jan 31, 2014 3:58 AM

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If you go to jail afterwards then she was a loli.
Jan 31, 2014 7:59 AM

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Axlicious said:
well, ask your boner

It confuses me a lot of the times....
Jan 31, 2014 11:16 AM

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TheDarkLordOtaku said:

4.) Infantcon: If you haven't figured out the running trend yet, then this character type represents babies. It's typically far smaller than the other categories, but it does appear from time to time. It's pretty rare for any romance to develop with this character type; however, you will often see it present in "Raising Sims" such as Musumake.


There was an even younger form then toddler-con? God damn it there are some sick people out there.
Jan 31, 2014 9:52 PM

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baki502 said:
TheDarkLordOtaku said:

4.) Infantcon: If you haven't figured out the running trend yet, then this character type represents babies. It's typically far smaller than the other categories, but it does appear from time to time. It's pretty rare for any romance to develop with this character type; however, you will often see it present in "Raising Sims" such as Musumake.


There was an even younger form then toddler-con? God damn it there are some sick people out there.

yeah...that's the whole toddler thing is really weird.
Jan 31, 2014 10:49 PM

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Infantcon, I can't fap to that, it's infinitely disgusting even to such a depraved soul like me.


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Hoppy said:
Infantcon, I can't fap to that, it's infinitely disgusting even to such a depraved soul like me.


*Slowly pats back*
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Ratohnhaketon said:
As long as they make my dick go doki doki moe kyun kyun, I won't be too picky on terminology.

Huge pedophile spotted.

Nothing in this world could possibly justify child porn.
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Feb 7, 2014 5:26 PM

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In my opinion loli's are people like Chinami, who is an awesome character, from Golden Time who is older but has a kid like form and YOU KNOW SHE IS NOT A KID.

I have seen on many topics people considering Kobato(in this thread too) of Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Next as being a loli, she is like 11-12 man. We know she is a kid, what do you want from her? To be 5'5 at 11-12 years old? Not a Loli, legitimate kid.
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JustALEX said:
So....does anyone actually want to answer the questions I posed?


i pretty much agree with what you posted. some people will just be stubborn and tell you "stop being delusional". unfortunately we can't do nothing about those people. anyway. i agree with your DEF of loli and petite
Feb 7, 2014 7:35 PM

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Hibbington said:

I have seen on many topics people considering Kobato(in this thread too) of Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai Next as being a loli, she is like 11-12 man. We know she is a kid, what do you want from her? To be 5'5 at 11-12 years old? Not a Loli, legitimate kid.


wat. Kobato is totally a loli.
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chiarassu said:
For me, it's more of like... Loli = petite, but petite ≠ loli. A character can be an adult but look like a loli in terms of body build/character design (see: everyone in Madoka Magica, tbh)

Age is a determining factor, I think. But of course, in the anime/otaku world, hardly anyone gives a shit about the age. They're labelled as a loli as long as they look like a loli.

Yup
All lolis are petites... but not all petites are lolis.
More lolis in Lolita clothing please.
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Zelot said:
More lolis in Lolita clothing please.

Lolita clothing is excellent looks awesome on petite characters as well...
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Zelot said:
lahzor said:
This thread wreaks of pedo

Your comment reeks of wrong spelling.

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chiarassu said:
For me, it's more of like... Loli = petite, but petite ≠ loli. A character can be an adult but look like a loli in terms of body build/character design (see: everyone in Madoka Magica, tbh)

Age is a determining factor, I think. But of course, in the anime/otaku world, hardly anyone gives a shit about the age. They're labelled as a loli as long as they look like a loli.

Yup
All lolis are petites... but not all petites are lolis.
More lolis in Lolita clothing please.


I left that there on purpose to try and catch a pretentious asshole, looks like my plan was a success.

Sounds like urmad
Feb 7, 2014 8:49 PM

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There needs to be more loli idols, anime is severely lacking in them and only games seem to have them and only mobile titles at that. I want an loli idol exodus to anime and console/handheld system maybe even PC ASAP.


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Otouto said:
Ratohnhaketon said:
As long as they make my dick go doki doki moe kyun kyun, I won't be too picky on terminology.

Huge pedophile spotted.

Nothing in this world could possibly justify child porn.


The irony when your entire profile is dedicated to a little boy. No one was even talking about child porn, get off your wall Humpty Dumpty. Here's an example of a petite 25 year old woman -

http://moe.animecharactersdatabase.com/uploads/chars/4758-273309340.png

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRoRziGvCi9MP6HqbC8ngOqIdYzklTFFKMQV0aonj3TMDoWzuVJ

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Feb 7, 2014 10:29 PM
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JustALEX said:
Zelot said:
More lolis in Lolita clothing please.

Lolita clothing is excellent looks awesome on petite characters as well...

Well.. More Lolita clothing in general should be in anime :3
Celest Ludenburg, one of my more favorite characters from DanganRonpa, mainly for the Lolita dress

lahzor said:
Zelot said:
lahzor said:
This thread wreaks of pedo

Your comment reeks of wrong spelling.

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chiarassu said:
For me, it's more of like... Loli = petite, but petite ≠ loli. A character can be an adult but look like a loli in terms of body build/character design (see: everyone in Madoka Magica, tbh)

Age is a determining factor, I think. But of course, in the anime/otaku world, hardly anyone gives a shit about the age. They're labelled as a loli as long as they look like a loli.

Yup
All lolis are petites... but not all petites are lolis.
More lolis in Lolita clothing please.


I left that there on purpose to try and catch a pretentious asshole, looks like my plan was a success.

Sounds like urmad

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Zelot said:
Who are you?


I am...

Feb 8, 2014 12:42 AM

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Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.
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Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.


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Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

But.

But.

The anime said she was 5000 years old.

She only looks and acts like a 7 year old. :(
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Exaccus said:
Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

But.

But.

The anime said she was 5000 years old.

She only looks and acts like a 7 year old. :(
The best are some of the virtual novels which will display in big warning signs on the first screen of the game "All of the characters are 18! They just look younger".
Feb 10, 2014 10:49 AM
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TheDarkLordOtaku said:
Exaccus said:
Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

But.

But.

The anime said she was 5000 years old.

She only looks and acts like a 7 year old. :(
The best are some of the virtual novels which will display in big warning signs on the first screen of the game "All of the characters are 18! They just look younger".
we have actual virtual novels now as well? time to plug in your nerve gear and say goodbye to reality then

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Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

I considered taking your comment seriously, but this is coming from a guy with Hitler as one of his favorite people on his profile.
Feb 10, 2014 10:04 PM

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Roka from d-frag is a petite character
Small and flat chested, but like not exaggeratedly so like loli characters
Unless they are actually children

Thy Eres some character sthat really ride the line between the two like fear kubrick
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Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.
Obviously doesn't recognize important debate and discussion. These are real issues bro.


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HaXXspetten said:
TheDarkLordOtaku said:
Exaccus said:
Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

But.

But.

The anime said she was 5000 years old.



She only looks and acts like a 7 year old. :(
The best are some of the virtual novels which will display in big warning signs on the first screen of the game "All of the characters are 18! They just look younger".
we have actual virtual novels now as well? time to plug in your nerve gear and say goodbye to reality then

cybersex gogo



http://youtu.be/0RfPr6ICc_Q
soon!

For these who are intrested game is :
Ore ga shujinkou (I am the hero) by Illusion
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aiueowave said:

What is name of that girl ?? She makes my dick doki doki.


Nika from Break Blade. Another girl from the series is a 12 year old who looks like she's a busty college girl, so age in anime really means nothing to physical features.


JustALEX said:
Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

I considered taking your comment seriously, but this is coming from a guy with Hitler as one of his favorite people on his profile.


Hitler was once a loli too - http://i45.tinypic.com/35m1jc7.jpg
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Hitler was once a loli too - http://i45.tinypic.com/35m1jc7.jpg


Stalin too
http://sakura-doujin.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/110-1.jpg
and Mao Zedung
http://www.konata.cz/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/mdd.jpg
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Is Shinobu a Loli or a petite?
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One is delectable, the other might be delectable.
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The pink haired teacher from Index is a loli. Any character who has an appearance like hers or acts childish, be it mannerisms or such, I consider a loli.

On the other hand, a character like rukia from bleach would be considered petite. Any female character that has more than speed bumps I consider petite. So long as they are of a certain body type. Anime wise of course.
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UnoPuntoCinco said:
Is Shinobu a Loli or a petite?
definitely a loli (well unless when she's in *that* form)
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The one you fap to is loli..
The rest are petite..
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Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money.

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aiueowave said:
HaXXspetten said:
TheDarkLordOtaku said:
Exaccus said:
Nihilfist said:
Who honestly gives a fuck? It just seems like you people are trying to make the fact that you jack off to anime characters of questionable age seem slightly less creepy. And FYI, it's not working.

But.

But.

The anime said she was 5000 years old.



She only looks and acts like a 7 year old. :(
The best are some of the virtual novels which will display in big warning signs on the first screen of the game "All of the characters are 18! They just look younger".
we have actual virtual novels now as well? time to plug in your nerve gear and say goodbye to reality then

cybersex gogo



http://youtu.be/0RfPr6ICc_Q
soon!

For these who are intrested game is :
Ore ga shujinkou (I am the hero) by Illusion
I wasn't thrilled with this one. I mean the blue haired girl was tolerable, but I just wasn't into the blonde. After I played this one I could really feel the actual GAMEPLAY aspects which Illusion is known for, slip beneath the surface of an otherwise poor excuse for a VN. I understand the fan devotion to the Artificial Girl series, because let's face it they are pretty good. But personally, I feel that their releases recently have been particularly weak. Everything past Ore ga Shujinkou is pretty much garbage. So far my fave from Illusion is Artificial Academy, its one of their few games, which you can really take advantage of some of the interesting customization features. I'd go so far as to say, you can customize some of the best 3D loli's amongst the Realtime 3d games. Obviously it's gonna be hard to compete against anything by Teatime, and Itazurakko(by Real) was pretty good. But as far as customizability goes, the runner up would have to be Custom Android Ai. I only give 1st place to AA, for the deeper personality customization.
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HaXXspetten said:
UnoPuntoCinco said:
Is Shinobu a Loli or a petite?
definitely a loli (well unless when she's in *that* form)


Both forms turn me on.
Feb 11, 2014 12:24 PM

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I love them both as long that they don't have big tits.
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I never heard of such a thing as "petite" in anime to be honest. "Loli" is something I do know off but only in the context of hentai. Seems to be only a demeaning word to categorize young, seductive girls...
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TheDarkLordOtaku said:
aiueowave said:
HaXXspetten said:
TheDarkLordOtaku said:



The best are some of the virtual novels which will display in big warning signs on the first screen of the game "All of the characters are 18! They just look younger".
we have actual virtual novels now as well? time to plug in your nerve gear and say goodbye to reality then

cybersex gogo



http://youtu.be/0RfPr6ICc_Q
soon!

For these who are intrested game is :
Ore ga shujinkou (I am the hero) by Illusion
I wasn't thrilled with this one. I mean the blue haired girl was tolerable, but I just wasn't into the blonde. After I played this one I could really feel the actual GAMEPLAY aspects which Illusion is known for, slip beneath the surface of an otherwise poor excuse for a VN. I understand the fan devotion to the Artificial Girl series, because let's face it they are pretty good. But personally, I feel that their releases recently have been particularly weak. Everything past Ore ga Shujinkou is pretty much garbage. So far my fave from Illusion is Artificial Academy, its one of their few games, which you can really take advantage of some of the interesting customization features. I'd go so far as to say, you can customize some of the best 3D loli's amongst the Realtime 3d games. Obviously it's gonna be hard to compete against anything by Teatime, and Itazurakko(by Real) was pretty good. But as far as customizability goes, the runner up would have to be Custom Android Ai. I only give 1st place to AA, for the deeper personality customization.



I agree about Illusion part.Look at their last game Immoral Ward,that game is weakest game ever made by Illusion.
I played Real play demo and it's not that bad i hope it would be not like PPD with repetative scenarios,atleast it would be better than their 2 last games.Why they just don't make new Artifical Girl or AA.I spend thousands hours in these games i think their reputation would rise a lot.
About Teatime for me their game is decent i don't like h gameplay.
For newer games i like Itazura Gakuen by Real cause clothes and customization.
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Big tits are overrated.
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UnoPuntoCinco said:
Big tits are overrated.


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YumeNoMonogatari said:
UnoPuntoCinco said:
Big tits are overrated.


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Tits in anime is like Coca Cola in the U.S.
The 'standard' size is always one size too big.
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YumeNoMonogatari said:
UnoPuntoCinco said:
Big tits are overrated.


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Big tits are overrated.
anime with cute girls is my thing.
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HaXXspetten said:
YumeNoMonogatari said:
UnoPuntoCinco said:
Big tits are overrated.


(シ_ _)シ
Tits in anime is like Coca Cola in the U.S.
The 'standard' size is always one size too big.


It's probably because the average cup size for Japanese women isn't that large at all..

Not sure if legit source but this could be a rough indicator for the general cup sizes for women around the world
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