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Aug 30, 2013 8:16 AM

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why is there no achievement if your mean score is between 5 and 8.5?
Being normal isn't an achievement.

Interesting!!! If my mean score was below a 5 I wouldn't be watching any more anime. If it was over 8.5 I would be over-rating everything. Over-rating is the problem I see on MAL. Besides, it isn't the user who is average, it's the anime. If the producers of anime in Japan would go back to well developed stories with great plots and characters the ratings would go up. So, it's the anime that is "average".
 
Aug 30, 2013 8:33 AM

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You may be right, but giving a badge for being in the majority, without doing anything specific besides rating like a sane person, doesn't feel right. Achievements are meant to highlight specific areas, something that deserves mention. Having an average score close to global average isn't worth mentioning, because it's expected.
 
Aug 30, 2013 8:41 AM

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You may be right, but giving a badge for being in the majority, without doing anything specific besides rating like a sane person, doesn't feel right. Achievements are meant to highlight specific areas, something that deserves mention. Having an average score close to global average isn't worth mentioning, because it's expected.

I'd have to agree with you on that point. It isn't MALGraph or MAL's fault that many over-rate titles. The real problem, as stated earlier, is the product. Besides, there seem to be more than enough Achievement Awards now. LOL.

For me, I search the files of many sites looking for good titles. There is a ton of great anime out there, but much is so called "Old School" and many of the younger viewers don't like the old artwork. I'll admit that today's modern artwork is very attractive....it's just the stories aren't!
 
Aug 31, 2013 4:53 AM

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fri said:
You may be right, but giving a badge for being in the majority, without doing anything specific besides rating like a sane person, doesn't feel right. Achievements are meant to highlight specific areas, something that deserves mention. Having an average score close to global average isn't worth mentioning, because it's expected.


Indeed, but if you were to do it, it could be the Nami Hitou achievement ^^
 
Aug 31, 2013 6:53 AM

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Is it possible to see full list of the new achievements? Just interested what achievements has been added.
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Aug 31, 2013 7:18 AM

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I haven't seen these achievements in my list earlier, so they must be new ones:
1) Stalker (romance: level 1);
2) Unrequited love (romance: level 2);
3) Sparkles and bubbles (romance: level 3);
4) Heart full of love (romance: level MAX)
5) Completionist (condition: do not drop any anime).
 
Aug 31, 2013 9:31 AM

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Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity.
Group franchises in Top Anime page.
Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Aug 31, 2013 11:15 PM

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I feel that there aren't enough manga achievements. There are definite genres that stand out as having more manga than anime, like how you included mystery.

May I suggest a horror manga achievement?


Not sure if this is the right thread for this but...

I second that, if we can make suggestions! Horror anime and horror manga.

Some titles that come to mind are the whole Higurashi franchise, Another and Gyo.


The majority of the works of Junji Ito (like Uzumaki) should work as well.

EDIT: Now that I think about it - some creator-based achievements could work really well as well. Here are a few ideas.

"Mind-screw Ending" - Watched most of the works of GAINAX and it's founders (so we could spread this out to Hideaki Anno's post GAINAX work, along with Studio Trigger's stuff).
"This achievement was Hitsuzen" - Watched or read most or all of the works of CLAMP. (This can be an manga achievement in addition to an anime achievement).
"Gotta Kill 'em all!" - Watched most/all of the works of Yoshiyuki Tomino.
"Basset-hound lover" - Watched most/all of the works of Mamoru Oshii.
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Sep 1, 2013 8:41 AM

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I'd love to see the vampire and demon achievement for anime, too.
Aw man...Still waiting on that space opera achievement.
 
Sep 1, 2013 11:31 AM
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Kuma-Kuma said:
why is there no achievement if your mean score is between 5 and 8.5?


The "acheivements" for mean scores outside the range of 5-8.5 are meant to be pokes at people who are very likely misusing the scoring system, not rewards.
 
Sep 1, 2013 12:07 PM

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Could we bring the page of google of the suggestions in the description of the club?


normalfags achievement \:D/
 
Sep 2, 2013 3:59 AM

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RGaspar said:
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I feel that there aren't enough manga achievements. There are definite genres that stand out as having more manga than anime, like how you included mystery.

May I suggest a horror manga achievement?


Not sure if this is the right thread for this but...

I second that, if we can make suggestions! Horror anime and horror manga.

Some titles that come to mind are the whole Higurashi franchise, Another and Gyo.


Please, no. I was suggesting it for manga only. The anime you mentioned, besides Gyo, is hardly Horror. There are seriously under 10 actual Horror anime. It's a genre that hasn't really been explored that well in anime, but in manga, it thrives.
 
Sep 2, 2013 8:34 AM

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Best Suggestion ever:

"Evil" (or Dark Side) achievement for 6,66 mean score :O
Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity.
Group franchises in Top Anime page.
Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Sep 2, 2013 9:07 AM

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AlabastreAizo said:
There are seriously under 10 actual Horror anime. It's a genre that hasn't really been explored that well in anime, but in manga, it thrives.
Although I nearly shit my pants in the first four episodes of Higurashi, I have to agree. Horror in anime is a joke.
 
Sep 2, 2013 9:27 PM

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AlabastreAizo said:
Please, no. I was suggesting it for manga only. The anime you mentioned, besides Gyo, is hardly Horror. There are seriously under 10 actual Horror anime. It's a genre that hasn't really been explored that well in anime, but in manga, it thrives.


LOL! So true. I actually laughed a lot with most of these, but they are all we got in anime.

It's cool if you guys don't wanna add it as an achievement, even I found the Gyo manga to be scarier than the anime adaptation (yet it was still funny).

Anyway, is it to my understanding that is better to send suggestion in that Google space linked recently?
 
Sep 3, 2013 12:42 AM

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Yes, we prefer that way now. Other people can vote on suggestions and we can clearly see what's in demand.
 
Sep 3, 2013 5:27 AM

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Yes, we prefer that way now. Other people can vote on suggestions and we can clearly see what's in demand.

sorry if it was already posted but...
could I get a link to that?
My blog,expect a lot of things about anime,computer science and metal music:http://thebluedrag.blogspot.com/

 
Sep 3, 2013 6:10 AM

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It's in the main page of the club on MAL, and also in the about section in MALgraph. The URL is http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=20db62&t=20db62.40
 
Sep 3, 2013 6:44 AM

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Okay, so how about an Anime Comedy Achievement? There are more than enough anime comedy titles to make that possible.

Genres such as Adventure, Action, Super Power, Fantasy could have their own achievements with increased requirements. You guys made it so that to get a Mahou Shoujo Achi you only need 15 instead of 25, for those genres it could cost 50 instead of 25. Maybe even more.

For underhanded genres, there could be a single achievement like Long Runner. Nobody will run after several long series just to get an achievement of a genre they don't even like. If they do: They must be liking it after so much time invested.
Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity.
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Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Sep 6, 2013 8:04 AM

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isn't the romance achievments too low? There is a plenty of love story in anime. Everyone will have the achievment.
 
Sep 6, 2013 12:24 PM

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I want achievements for every genre...but I guess that would be too much right now.
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Sep 6, 2013 1:46 PM

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isn't the romance achievments too low? There is a plenty of love story in anime. Everyone will have the achievment.
Yep, I noticed that too. It might need some change in thresholds.
 
Sep 8, 2013 9:51 AM

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fri said:
flammeur said:
isn't the romance achievments too low? There is a plenty of love story in anime. Everyone will have the achievment.
Yep, I noticed that too. It might need some change in thresholds.
Yes, I'll have to third that too. Maybe it's because of the way things are tagged: for me romance is happy and/or with a sentimental/idealized quality. So when I saw School Days/Elfen Lied under this achievement I was surprised. Of course the idea of a romance achievement is very good in itself. But an achievement that lists every lovestory seems kind of pointless. In my opinion an achievement should be hard to obtain: I'm already romance lvl 3 and I didn't break sweat, and I'm not even Mechazawa yet (the one I was aiming for). Thank you in advance for fixing this.
 
Sep 8, 2013 11:42 AM

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I suggest changing threshold for both anime and manga to 40 - 70 - 100 - 150. That's an increase from 25 - 40 - 60 - 100 for anime and 15 - 30 - 50 - 80 for manga. The other way of fixing this would be changing genres of hundreds of titles (Haruhi, Genius Party, ...) that feature some romance plot threads, but we don't have any means to do that.

What do you think? It would decrease your level for this badge, but it really needs some changes to reflect the reality.
 
Sep 8, 2013 1:33 PM
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40/70/100/150 looks good for a change in thresholds. It remains obtainable while better reflecting the sheer size of the genre in terms of how many titles have its tag (whether legitimately or otherwise; I would argue that both School Days and Elfen Lied deserve the tag given the romance plot's importance, but there are surely many titles out there where it's a bit more of an aside presence, and therefore don't really need the Romance tag).
 
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I prefer higher thresholds, it's easier to do and we don't need to worry about which show really features love and those that don't. Specially, since a lot of the time it's more a matter of opinions.

So yeah, another vote for higher thresholds+
 
Sep 10, 2013 1:51 AM

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I also opt for higher thresholds, when I go on my hunt through several MalGraph profiles for specific genred titles, I almost always see high-leveled Romance achievement.
 
Sep 10, 2013 10:53 PM

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Higher requirements for Romance sounds good to me too. Everyone I know was surprised at how they were already level 3.
 
Sep 11, 2013 12:35 PM

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Achievement Suggestions for consideration:
(Sorry for not posting them on http://www.google.com/moderator/#15/e=20db62&t=20db62.40)

Anime Achievement Suggestions
1. Having an achievement for watching the genre types that currently don't have any 4 tier or level achievements.
2. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of anime categorized by type (Ex: TV, OVA, etc...)
3. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of older anime series.
4. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of newer anime series.
5. Having an achievement for a certain amount of episodes watched.
6. Having an achievement for amount of time invested in watching anime.
7. Having an achievement for not having any anime on hold.
8. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of Incest anime.

Manga Achievement Suggestions
1. Having an achievement for Reading the genre types that currently don't have any 4 tier or level achievements.
2. Having an achievement for Reading a certain amount of manga categorized by type (Ex: Manga, One Shot, etc...)
3. Having an achievement for Reading a certain number of Chapters.
4. Having an achievement for Reading a certain number of Volumes.
5. Having an achievement for amount of time invested in Reading manga.
6. Having an achievement for not having any reading material on hold.

Other Achievement Suggestions
Achievements to consider to try and help people socialize more on the site in hopes of finding new anime and making friends.
1. Having an achievement for having a certain number of comments.
2. Having an achievement for having a certain number of forums posts.
3. Having an achievement for having a certain number of friends.
4. Having an achievement for being in a certain number of clubs.
5. Having an achievement for number of years you've been part of the MAL community.
 
Sep 11, 2013 12:58 PM

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> 1. Having an achievement for watching the genre types that currently don't have any 4 tier or level achievements.

Yep, we'll add some that were suggested.

> 2. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of anime categorized by type (Ex: TV, OVA, etc...)

I'm not sure about this, will consider.

> 3. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of older anime series.
> 4. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of newer anime series.

Older - yes (we were thinking pre-1990), newer - nope.

> 5. Having an achievement for a certain amount of episodes watched.
> 6. Having an achievement for amount of time invested in watching anime.

We already have number of titles completed. I know it's not the same, but it's close enough.

> 7. Having an achievement for not having any anime on hold.

This doesn't have enough... uh, power?... to it. We'll stay with "no drop" for the status-related ones.

> 8. Having an achievement for watching a certain amount of Incest anime.

I personally don't want to award anyone for doing that.

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> Manga Achievement Suggestions

Same answers as for anime.

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> Other Achievement Suggestions

We'll be adding one for writing reviews and recommendations, thus rewarding doing something for the community. We only hope that it won't push any of you towards making shitty reviews after one episode, because, you know: http://i.imgur.com/DANeUPC.gif

My to-do list of achievements is here: https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/issues/83 (not yet updated with newest ideas from Moderator).
 
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My to-do list of achievements is here: https://github.com/rr-/malgraph4/issues/83 (not yet updated with newest ideas from Moderator).


Thanks for the link.
 
Sep 17, 2013 2:28 AM
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I suggest changing threshold for both anime and manga to 40 - 70 - 100 - 150. That's an increase from 25 - 40 - 60 - 100 for anime and 15 - 30 - 50 - 80 for manga. The other way of fixing this would be changing genres of hundreds of titles (Haruhi, Genius Party, ...) that feature some romance plot threads, but we don't have any means to do that.

What do you think? It would decrease your level for this badge, but it really needs some changes to reflect the reality.


I feel the threshold should be decided for each achievement individually rather than implementing one overall threshold for all achievements. While some For example is there 150 titles for the anime versions of the GAR and Mahou Shoujo achievements to justify the increase to 150?

Also I see there's an achievements for watching at least ten 150+ episode series. That's probably another achievement that could have a threshold.
 
Sep 17, 2013 9:07 AM

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fri said:
I suggest changing threshold for both anime and manga to 40 - 70 - 100 - 150. That's an increase from 25 - 40 - 60 - 100 for anime and 15 - 30 - 50 - 80 for manga. The other way of fixing this would be changing genres of hundreds of titles (Haruhi, Genius Party, ...) that feature some romance plot threads, but we don't have any means to do that.

What do you think? It would decrease your level for this badge, but it really needs some changes to reflect the reality.


I feel the threshold should be decided for each achievement individually rather than implementing one overall threshold for all achievements. While some For example is there 150 titles for the anime versions of the GAR and Mahou Shoujo achievements to justify the increase to 150?

Also I see there's an achievements for watching at least ten 150+ episode series. That's probably another achievement that could have a threshold.
This increase probably is only for romance related anime. It need an increase because it is easiest obtainable achievement (after Chinese cartoons that is).
I don't think that it would be wise to increase threshold for GAR or Mahou Shoujo because it's pretty rare genre and isn't very common.
And adding thresholds to 150+ ep anime isn't very smart because of same reason as GAR and MS (there are only 63 such anime as stated in achievement description) also it's one of the hardest achievement as it requires to watch at least 1500 episodes ((and most of them are far more than just 150eps) well maybe not).
Well that just mine opinion so please don't kill me if you don't like it. :D
By the way does this achievement applies to anime that is still airing (like One Piece, Naruto: Shippuuden, Detective Connan etc.) ? According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_anime_series_by_episode_count Wikipedia page there are 77 such anime minus 10 that are airing equals 67 so i guess airing anime aren't accounted.
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Sep 17, 2013 12:28 PM

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You misread guys - higher threshold discussed right now applies only to Romance achievement, not all of them. The rest will remain as they are, no changes to, for example, Mahou Shoujo.
 
Sep 17, 2013 4:32 PM
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So I did, my bad. Well if you're increasing thresholds another that could probably use an increase would be Slice of Life.
 
Sep 18, 2013 11:06 AM

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So I did, my bad. Well if you're increasing thresholds another that could probably use an increase would be Slice of Life.
I still halfway compared to you but with 102,4 anime days (which I already consider a lot) I just got the achievement.

Those hypey-hypey school moeblobs don't count as Slife-of-Life so "those guys" don't get the achievement either. The achievement is reasonable to acquire.
Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity.
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Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Sep 19, 2013 3:13 AM

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Hello Developers thnx for the awesome mal graph , i wud like to suggest to add levels for each and every anime/manga genre here of MAL on that graph , also request to add acheivement for hentai and some more specialised ones for some crazy special anime :D
 
Sep 19, 2013 8:55 AM

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We could use an achievement for watching MOVIES, not a small amount, I'm talking about a large amount.

I had the idea when I noticed most big profiles were still low on that, I really like movies a lot, it's over 25% my entire completions and I just got 100 with 348 anime, felt like something to brag about xDD
Stop the sequels high-ranking stupidity.
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Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Sep 24, 2013 6:09 AM

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How about an achievement for anime/manga classics & milestones?
Series that would fit into that achievement category would be the first installments of legendary franchises (Gundam '79, Mazinger Z, Sailor Moon, original Dragonball) as well as series that marked significant changes in the industry (Ashita No Joe, Totoro, NGE, etc.). This would encourage people to expand their horizons and inform themselves a bit more the history of their favourite medium.
 
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How about an achievement for anime/manga classics & milestones?
Series that would fit into that achievement category would be the first installments of legendary franchises (Gundam '79, Mazinger Z, Sailor Moon, original Dragonball) as well as series that marked significant changes in the industry (Ashita No Joe, Totoro, NGE, etc.). This would encourage people to expand their horizons and inform themselves a bit more the history of their favourite medium.
Sounds good o.o'
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Because Gintama is just "one" anime and not 5.
 
Sep 28, 2013 11:51 AM

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Fantasista Doll for magical girl please?
http://myanimelist.net/anime/15883/Fantasista_Doll
 
Sep 29, 2013 6:18 AM

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Also for magical girl achievement:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/9506/Prism_Magical:_Prism_Generations!

And that classics achievement really does sound nice and promising.
 
Sep 30, 2013 9:17 AM

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Please add these two titles for the magical girl achievement too:
http://myanimelist.net/anime/17651/Genei_wo_Kakeru_Taiyou
http://myanimelist.net/anime/17681/Zettai_Bouei_Leviathan
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Sep 30, 2013 12:37 PM

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To face one's own feelings is akin to throwing oneself into a bottomless pit, or setting sail on an endless sea.
You must not look there. You must not think about it. Though you search your soul on the dark, heaving waves, you must never look in that place." - Kusuriuri
 
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Oct 3, 2013 6:05 PM

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I would suggest an achievement after the read novels. Since there had been a lot light novel uploaded to MAL, and it's merely different than mangas, it should have it's own achievement. On the level like the pre-1980 mangas have.
 
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Does Maoyuu Maou Yuusha not count in the demon category?

http://myanimelist.net/anime/14833/Maoyuu_Maou_Yuusha
 
Oct 5, 2013 12:13 PM

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It does, but note that there is no demons achievement for anime.

http://myanimelist.net/manga/28125/Maoyuu_Maou_Yuusha is tagged as Demons.
 
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It does, but note that there is no demons achievement for anime.

http://myanimelist.net/manga/28125/Maoyuu_Maou_Yuusha is tagged as Demons.


Ah.. true ^_^" Thanks anyway!
 
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