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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- NOOOOOO....!!! :'( :'( *sound of heart breaking* So near and yet so far... And they are getting further and further apart.. At this rate I think I can only see a repeat of the past (I think the cover page is symbolic of this). Why Kou why?! Why must you be such a kind person and do that for Narumi??! I can only wish that you were not that kind a person and just be a bit more selfish and whisk Futaba away to happy land together and leave Narumi alone! :'( On the other hand, his decision to do that is not kind to Futaba...at all... Perhaps Kou needs to feel jealous for there to be some progress in his relationship with Futaba...and that's where Touma comes into the picture...? |
blue-yNov 8, 2012 7:31 AM
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| OMFG... Translations, translations. ;-; |
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KAL3S said: OMFG... Translations, translations. ;-; No english translations yet, so far there's only the chinese translations. Even from the pictures alone, it is heartbreaking! I bet reading the english released scans would make me feel even worse...! |
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| It looks like Kou gave up on Futaba ;__;. |
| OMG! Thank you Shuuko and Yuuri. Finally somebody tell this Futaba. Instead explain everything, she run away from problem. And she always cry... -.- She was such strong, cheerful character... what happen with her? She could be mad at someone and now... Also I thought she know Kou... -.- How she could expect Kou will tell her, he like her?! I surprised that I don't really mad at Kou. He isn't that type of friend who only see you when he need something. Also I think Futaba should try to understand how everybody feel instead of focusing on yourself and her happness... |
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| Well, after this chapter I can understand better why Kou want to help Narumi, but I still think that he's making it by the wrong way. I mean, what he's planning to confort her, huh? He knows that Narumi like him, so maybe he's thinking on become her boyfriend still loving Futaba? That's ridiculous. He can stay by her side and be with Futaba at the same time, but looks like he's so weak that can't do both together. Yuuri was amazing in this chapter again, loved when she scolded Futaba. That's what Fu-chan was needing, but she still need courage to tell Kou her feelings properly. Ok, I know that she asked him first about the kisses because she was afraid of confess and be rejected, but maybe it would be what Kou need to think better about this situation. All the history is a big mess right now, and I'm very disappointed for Sakisaka have made it right after that amazing chapter #21... Can't wait to see what Touma will do in the next chapters, considering that Futaba is so less to realize the things... I laughed so loud when she joked about the possibility of Touma like her, haha. He'll need to do some "action" to her understand. ;) Really want to see what will be Kou's reaction, if he'll be the boy with attitude that we know and will fight for her, or if he'll give up thinking on don't make her suffer anymore. Let's see what will happen! |
| I don't think Kou will start dating Yui. He just want to help through this difficult time. Just like she help him. |
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| This twist feels way too forced. Sakisaka ruined the amazing chapter (21) with all this unnecessary drama. When Kou and Futaba make up with each other, I'm expecting another kiss. Dammit. |
Haven't ' read chapter 23 but from reading other people's rage about chapter 23 (from other sites) I'm guessing it's pretty bad and painful.... about kou comparing futaba to narumi's grief... am i right? ugh!!!! chapter 21 was so perfect then after the other one my hope just chattered I'm dying reading it! i just wanna see Kou suffer from taking back futaba or die in jealousy from seeing futaba with touma....  (im sorry for raging) please tell me this torture will be over soon?? |
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| From what I understood in the rough translations, the thing is getting worse. I believe Kou has this twisted idea in his mind of helping Narumi because she helped him when his parents got divorced... and I mean, it was a nice gesture of her and everything, but he doesn't have to give up on the person HE LOVES just to ~try~ to respond to other person's feelings. And he's aware of Narumi's feelings about him and still he's at her side, that will hurt her more imho, because she'll see he's in love with someone else and that'll just break her heart and she doesn't deserve that, even though i don't particularly like her *ahem*. For what I see this is the /perfect/ chance for Touma to make his move. I'm pretty sure Futaba would reject him but say... if Touma kisses her or Kou sees them hugging or something he will go batshit crazy and will run back to Futaba, to my dismay because I really adore Touma ;__; We'll see what happens, but I still want to hit Kou :/ |
| ): Whoa this chapter got nothing but worse... I think Futaba should have just confessed to Kou instead of asking about the kiss. I feel like neither or them are straight forward and it makes things extremely unclear. BUT ... it was obvious she knew he was lying about the kiss, so maybe once she cools her head they will make-up...? Kou, I see he wants to help his friend. But he's going about it the wrong way. & giving up on Futaba to console Narumi is only going to end up hurting her & him. I'm mad at Kou for not listening to Aya when he warned him about this, and the way he acted "hot" and "cold" towards Futaba is enough to upset any girl. So I really wasn't surprised when she started to tear up like that. Touma! Everyone except Futaba has realizes he like her. He should make his feelings known now though, and see how things play out. I like Touma, but I don't think he will when over Futaba. It would be nice to see Kou reaping what he sews if Touma does get close to Futaba though. Oh, & Aya was called cool by Shuuko c: |
| Another depressing chapter. It was just because of the "mood"? I facepalmed myself at that. |
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| KOU I HATE YOU!!!!!!! T___T |
| Maybe... Maybe... the part where the two main characters end up together won't happen and futaba will end up with touma?*ends joke* nah... by the course the manga is taking, I can bet that only a toumaxfutaba couple will be able to make Kou go back on the tracks. But after all he's done, I don't think I could forgive him if I was Futaba... he just went toooo far this time. One more chapter of this kind and I think I'm going to drop the manga since I already read the story in Bokura Ga Ita. |
| Yeah, Kou is an idiot. A real idiot. But! I CAN'T hate him, I can't help it. The story is narrated by Futaba's point of view, so it's obvious that everybody is taking her side. That's why I was really glad that in this chapter we could also come to know some of Kou's thoughts. Nobody is putting himself in his shoes and only read the story with Futaba's eyes... and come on, it's obvious that he's suffering like hell. He loves Futaba (I cried a lot here), but Narumi shares the same pain with him and wants to help her. blue-y said: Why Kou why?! Why must you be such a kind person and do that for Narumi??! I can only wish that you were not that kind a person and just be a bit more selfish and whisk Futaba away to happy land together and leave Narumi alone! If that happened, this manga would have already ended, lol. Anyway, yes, that's the point. Kou is stupid and he's going to hurt not only himself, but also both Futaba and Narumi, but he's not an asshole. "Always holding back, pretending to be fine, holding back and holding back, only to end up losing everything" is what he says about Narumi. But it's the same thing he's doing too, suppressing his feelings. And then "Is it so wrong to have given her a place to cry?" So, if he's now offering himself to help Narumi, that means that later he'll need somebody to offers himself to help him... and that person will be Futaba, I hope. Anyway, there's a thing I don't understand... I'm maybe going a little off topic, so I put it under spoiler |
| When all Ao Haru Ride fans sit here and complain about Kou’s actions and behavior… I’m sitting here like that…  because I’m pretty sure how will this story end and what an amazing and touching moments Sakisaka Io will prepare for us :) |
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| Actually I don't think Kou is selfless and just decides to sacrifice himself. We learnt a bit more about Narumi and those things made her more likeable in my eyes. A girl who was very hurt from the divorce of her parents and then losing the only place she had to hide everything she was feeling. Call her selfish, call her annoying, but she basically tried to keep what she had only left and that was Kou. Sure, I'd prefer if she stopped messing with him and leave but where would she go? He was the only one who really understood her and developed some kind of feelings as well. It's not fair to judge her compared to the rest of the girls in the manga. They are mentally and sentimentally better. She kind of reminds me of Mayuka in Strobe Edge. She just needs the motivation to move forward and gain some goals thus live happily. Kou on the other hand, sees a bit of himself in her. She helped him in the past and he saw right through her pretense and honestly wants to help her. If you knew someone for some years that you felt close to and wanted them to be happy, lying and crying for the first time, what would you do? Just think they don't deserve it and let them be? He knows no better and the only thing he can do is stay by her side. There are really no right and wrong choices in Narumi's case. She needs to discover herself and admittedly relying too much on Kou and he spoiling her won't help much, but being left behind is also not going to help much. They know no middle way so Kou decides he wants to help her find happiness just as he got some happiness but not cutting off Futaba would hurt the trio even more. Honestly, I just think the timing is bad and that Narumi doesn't have any other close relationship with someone to rely upon. So basically, what we are waiting for right now is for Narumi to feel better about everything and gain more confidence to stand on her own 2 feet. But while she does that, Futaba is going to be chased by Kikuchi and will start lowering her guard bit by bit. In the middle we are gonna have a torn Kou who wants to help Narumi and doesn't wanna see Futaba with someone else but will have to fight the urge followed by some mini explosions of jealousy till in the end, Narumi is ok, Futaba rejects Kikuchi properly and Kou is finally at peace and both of them can try again. |
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| Bah, this gets me a little depressed, but oh well, I know that they'll end together anyway. It's just sad that after being so close they'll get so far at each other now. |
| I would definitely give this manga a higher rating if it does the unexpected. But right now, it doesn't seem so. OG-3 said: This twist feels way too forced. Sakisaka ruined the amazing chapter (21) with all this unnecessary drama. When Kou and Futaba make up with each other, I'm expecting another kiss. Dammit. +1 |
| Ugg, I hate this after they had just gotten closer. I hated him ripping her name out, that just sucked. |
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| OMG HE IS BEING SUCH A DICK. I'm sorry, I just had to get my anger out... If I was her I'd slap him for being so horrible to her.. |
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| I HATED KOU in this chapter. ITS DEFINITELY NOT WRONG TO GIVE NARUMI A PLACE TO CRY! BUT IF YOU WILL GIVE IT TO HER AND SACRIFICE FUTABA's SAKE, THAT"S THE MOST DEFINITELY WRONG PART! Geez! How can you be sooo pathetic?! Ugh. Anyway, After Futabe did her part, I don't want her to do anything now. I mean, I want her to give more disatnce so Kou will realize what he did. Shames! Hate >.< |
| Narumi is pissing me even more... I mean, she is using her whole life misfortune as a chance to get near Kou. At this point, I do not think she cares so much about her family, but mainly to get Kou. And Kou is just immature. Seems like the author is just out of ideas & she is trying to force things, or she is prepares something else... I hope Ao Haru Ride won't fall under the category of typical shoujo. |
Maffy said: Actually I don't think Kou is selfless and just decides to sacrifice himself. We learnt a bit more about Narumi and those things made her more likeable in my eyes. A girl who was very hurt from the divorce of her parents and then losing the only place she had to hide everything she was feeling. Call her selfish, call her annoying, but she basically tried to keep what she had only left and that was Kou. Sure, I'd prefer if she stopped messing with him and leave but where would she go? He was the only one who really understood her and developed some kind of feelings as well. It's not fair to judge her compared to the rest of the girls in the manga. They are mentally and sentimentally better. She kind of reminds me of Mayuka in Strobe Edge. She just needs the motivation to move forward and gain some goals thus live happily. Kou on the other hand, sees a bit of himself in her. She helped him in the past and he saw right through her pretense and honestly wants to help her. If you knew someone for some years that you felt close to and wanted them to be happy, lying and crying for the first time, what would you do? Just think they don't deserve it and let them be? He knows no better and the only thing he can do is stay by her side. There are really no right and wrong choices in Narumi's case. She needs to discover herself and admittedly relying too much on Kou and he spoiling her won't help much, but being left behind is also not going to help much. They know no middle way so Kou decides he wants to help her find happiness just as he got some happiness but not cutting off Futaba would hurt the trio even more. Honestly, I just think the timing is bad and that Narumi doesn't have any other close relationship with someone to rely upon. So basically, what we are waiting for right now is for Narumi to feel better about everything and gain more confidence to stand on her own 2 feet. But while she does that, Futaba is going to be chased by Kikuchi and will start lowering her guard bit by bit. In the middle we are gonna have a torn Kou who wants to help Narumi and doesn't wanna see Futaba with someone else but will have to fight the urge followed by some mini explosions of jealousy till in the end, Narumi is ok, Futaba rejects Kikuchi properly and Kou is finally at peace and both of them can try again. bless this post. I actually can't hate/be mad at Kou, tbh. |
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| Wow, Kou really is an idiot. As if ignoring Futaba's and his own feelings and taking care of Narumi out of pity would help anyone. Nothing good would ever come out of a situation like that.. |
| He really ripped it? Damn. Stupid Kou. Also, I'm pretty sure he's dating Narumi now. The whole "I've given her a place to cry" thing is a dead give-away. Tbh, I'm not really mad at Kou. As a fangirl, I'm mad, but as an actual person, I'm not mad. He's doing what he believes is right, and hey, maybe it is. He's helping Narumi out during this difficult time. I just think his feelings for her are not romantic though, so he shouldn't try to force himself into that role. Also, he could have been less of a bastard to Futaba. What upsets me is that my boyfriend is a lot like Kou, in that kind disposition. I have nightmares of him defending another girl over me, because of her feelings. There just has to be a line somewhere, but even I don't know where it should be. Bleh. *cheers for Touma* |
fishergirl16Sep 23, 2014 5:32 PM
RiukixD said: Wow, Kou really is an idiot. As if ignoring Futaba's and his own feelings and taking care of Narumi out of pity would help anyone. Nothing good would ever come out of a situation like that.. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| I like the way this is going. |
| I'd do the same as Kou if I were him, probably. But, dang, I don't think Narumi needed anything more than a friend, and that's something he could've been to her without hurting Futaba. AAAAA grr. whatever. |
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| Good chapter. |
[right] "The big secret to breaking the rules is to make it look as though you're following them." |
| *siiiigggghhhhhhhhh* Oh Kou, what such naivety doth lie in you. Sometimes you're no good for Futaba-chan. Always making her cry. A guy like you can't be the one for her in those moments. I'm still wishing for y'all, but I feel my standards falling. This might be an evil mangaka to make Futaba and Kikku a permanent happening... but still, I suppose I'll try to root for y'all still :/ Step up your game though, Kou. Pls. It's called multi-tasking. Smh. |
| Noooooooooooooooo he ripped the page??? |
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| Gahhhhhhhh. Koi, whyyyy. You can't do that. |
| Kou is being an idiot. Ugh, I'm so mad. |
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| Lmao this is such a cheap plot.Both of their parents divorced, and they both have a parent with ilness.What a fucking 'coincidence'!What is next?They are distant relative or something? Such a big letdown from anime... |
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