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Sep 16, 2012 6:46 PM
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Finally watched this with the subs, instead of the raw since I was impatient earlier. I was wondering what happened there when he was imaging it, but now I know Kyoto, trolled us for the finale. LOL!. Anyways still a 10/10 for me since I loved the overall series of Hyouka and the little mysteries within it.
 
Sep 16, 2012 6:51 PM
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Why Oreki WHYYY! Can I just punch you in the face? :(
 
Sep 16, 2012 6:56 PM

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AWWWWWWWWW NOOO ITS ENDING. I haven't felt this way about a show in a long time.

I think this show was very very well done. I really enjoyed everything about it. A great SOL with beautiful animation and really enjoyable characters. Not too much happened this episode.. but for some reason I feel damn satisfied. Getting trolled by Oreki made me a little sad but damn, I love all of these characters. I totally ship ChitandaXOreki to the fullest. All their little interactions are just so fun to watch. Like they aren't even like 'together' but their relationship is still awesome. If they do somehow get together in the future it'd be even more awesome. I'll really end up missing this show and hope they somehow continue it in the future. I don't think it was a masterpiece, but it was VERY well done, perhaps the closest thing you can get to one. Lol borderline masterpiece! :D Hopefully they'll continue it through a movie or something.

Oh! Btw just hearing Oreki say, "I'm curious!" was so awesome!

5/5 for this episode. 9/10 for the series!
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Sep 16, 2012 7:03 PM
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what a troll lol

a very fantastic artwork 11/10 best artwork of this season for me

but...the last eps quite boring, omg.....you know anime is not only about art , they need to make 2nd season or movie or Ova to complete this masterpiece, if there gonna be nothing, then it's just only artwork at the end..

the best part was at cultural festival, then it's dropping again

10/10 at that part, 6/10 at the 22nd eps
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:04 PM

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damn, it's over!! Dx

and JUST when they were really getting on the eru x houtarou development towards the end, had me REALLY excited when houtarou told eru that he;d take care of her business side... until it turned out to be more of houtarou's mind trolling T-T

im glad to see that mayaka and satoshi were getting along really well together. if only satoshi can look past his ridiculous ideologies involving a relationship with mayaka... everything would be perfect!

this episode just didn't feel like a finale for me and left me feeling really empty :(
it really cried out for a season 2! so cross my fingers on it!!!
STILL A REALLY GOOD SERIES OVERALL THOUGH!!!

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Sep 16, 2012 7:04 PM

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Having Irisu in the final episode was a personal huge win and the artwork was great.

I don't know how Oreki could think that Chitanda looked beautiful in that outfit or whatever he was thinking but that's a Japanese thing.
Ibara and Satoshi are just "normal" and I expected/wanted to see a kiss between Oreki and Chitanda but no, I got trolled instead, thank you, I'm honestly not satisfied with this as a final episode.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:06 PM

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Such a tease!
Oreki said he will take care of Chitanda's business...
But is all in his imagination!

We didn't really see Chitanda in the empress properly.
But I still love it!

I demand a season 2 now!!!
8/10 for me. I guess I'll look forward to another KyoAni work! (Chuunibyou?)
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Sep 16, 2012 7:16 PM
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Also this was nice to see.


A smile from Oreki NO WAY.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:16 PM
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Many of you seems disappointed that Oreki didn't really confess or that they didn't kiss but I think it's alright because it's not really needed imo. Even if oreki didn't confess, this ep clearly shows that oreki has realized that he has fallen in love. A feeling that he had resisted and denied since the 1st time he met chitanda. The rest is just a question of time
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:19 PM

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Animation was spectacular as always, and it especially shows in this ep. Oreki's "trolling" was both disappointing and funny to me at the same time. Though the mystery was a bit lacking this episode, then again Hyouka never needed a mystery to pull out its potential.
Sometimes this series was boring, most of the time pure fun. 8/10 for me.
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Sep 16, 2012 7:20 PM

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Very satisfying and feel-good ending as was the entire series. Loved it from start to finish, truly.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:20 PM

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Great series, truly enjoyable and it created a great character in Oreki but that said i was a little disappointed that the interactions between Oreki and Eru were so limited; last episode implied that Satoshi and Mayaka is just a matter of time so i hope that the same applies to Oreki and Eru as well.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:29 PM

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Great anime, and though I really would have liked more of a conclusion, I never found Hyouka to be boring.
I'm really expecting a movie from this now >:|
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Sep 16, 2012 7:34 PM

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Knew it. No epic ending.

7/10
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:35 PM
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pretty good series and ending... though oreki needs to man up and just say it =P
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:40 PM

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Well, that was a boring end. At least I think this time it is the end.
I rather see it as a bonus episode as I thought it would end last week like everybody else, I guess.
And that episode was great but also somewhat annyoing because of Satoshi.

S2, I wonder.. what should they do then? They showed at the end that Eru and Houtarou are two completely different persons going into two different directions even though they have feelings for each other. Relationship between Satoshi and Ibara was quite openly dealt with in the last few episodes.
What's left would be only more boring mysteries..?
Wasn't volume 5 or so not animated anymore for the anime? What's happening there what was left out in the anime? Relationship wise between the main characters?

For now I think Hyouka was great at times, with astonishing animation and a huge lack of SoL and an overload of pointless mysteries. 8/10 just because I can relate to that lazy Oreki and liked Chitanda, otherwise it rather deserves 6-7/10.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:42 PM
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They should have kissed...
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:45 PM

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Well it was a good series, too bad Oreki didn't say those last words.

8/10
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:49 PM

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They should have kissed...


I doubt anyone could have/should have expected that; if anything that confession was the closest thing we could have got to a more decisive end, it doesn't fit either character to suddenly kiss. To much energy wasted :P
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:50 PM

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I'm gonna miss this show soo much, it's been half a year already, I was looking for Hyouka episode every week in half a year ...

Tbh I wasn't satisfied with the ending, but this episode is truly amazing, the art works, animation, and dialogue were fit in every way. The last scene when Eru stood in front of the sakura tree, I just took it as my desktop bg, no words can describe its gorgeous beauty ... I wish Oreki had spoken out his mind that time, it would have been a perfect end, but I guess they wanna save it for later :P.

Anyway, another great series come from Kyo ani, this studio was, is and will ever be, my most favorite anime studio of all time.

9/10

Another season please!!!!!!!!
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:51 PM

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That was great, albeit I am a bit disappointed the romance didn't go any farther. I really shouldn't be complaining though, because the ending really was amazing. It was beautiful, and not just visually. I usually don't like open ended endings like this, but this was done so well I cant really complain.

I wonder if they'll make a second season or a movie or something.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:51 PM

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Damn, I want to see them Kiss to each other!

Oh well, it was nice anime there.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:52 PM

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Amazing animation in this episode... love the ending for the most part. If only the oreki confession was real it wudve made my day and the ending wudve been so much better. Overall magnificent series, kinda hope that they maybe make a movie or something to fill in the last volume of the light novel.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:52 PM

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nantuko said:
They showed at the end that Eru and Houtarou are two completely different persons going into two different directions even though they have feelings for each other.


I think it was more saying that they COMPLETE each other, not that they aren't meant for each other.

If you really want to fit in, just put Legend of the Galactic Heroes in your top 5 and have it be the only 10-rated anime in your list.
 
Sep 16, 2012 7:54 PM

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Man, I'm going to miss this show. It's been a great ride. The climax of Hyouka was definitely the school festival arc. In my opinion, it was when the storytelling, characterization and mystery really went well together. Some arcs were kinda boring (I'm looking at you Why didn't she ask EBA), yet i still found things worth to enjoy.

On the bright side, there's still the last light novel to animate. Maybe KyoAni will adapt it as a movie in the future? *fingers crossed*
 
Sep 16, 2012 8:09 PM
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Did I like, watch this episode wrong or something?
I REALLY hated this episode, maybe I could have tolerated such a ridiculously horrible episode if it was just in the middle somewhere but COME ON that is NOT a good last episode.

after episode 21 i was so scyked for 22 I was CONVINCED it would get awesome after an amazing episode 21

But omg, that was the cheesiest piece of C*** episode ever, what the hell the mystery didn't excite me and the end was just... well... CHEESY

was this really how the novel went?
I hope they DO do a second season (more like 3rd going by anime openings/endings) because that just ruined this show completely for me
now i kinda wish it had just ended at episode 21 and spared em the misery
this had become my second favourite anime but this episode just knocked it back down to like, number 10 on the list.

that was just so... anti-climatic as others said.
surely somebody else understands what I'm talking about?

I'll re-watch the episode to try and find some good in it but really I don;t think I will. if it comes to it I'm just going to have to ignore this episode completely and pretend 21 was the end.

the one good thing about this episode was rekis "Brown hair" part and the troll

also, the animation was pretty but I think it got just a little 'too much' in this episode, i understand the significance of the pink so i can cope with that but... it just kind of... i don't know... made me dizzy?
The blur could have been nice, but it went on for too long and by the end of that scene i just felt... i don;t know, i felt like they turned a really important scene into a filler.
lets face it, that's all this episode could ever amount to.

Characters overall:

Oreki- 9.5/10
I feel like he kind of lacked something but until this episode and ESPECIALLY in episode 21 i loved him

Satoshi- 9/10
He was a bit of a cliche character and i didn't like him THAT much in the beginign and i HATED him in episode 21 and then when he explained why he did what he did i loved him

Chitanda-8/10
I loved chi-chan but she really did lack character but besides that she was really a wonderful cute character, i felt like she had a little more once again in EPISODE 21

Ibara-9/10
I never really liked her that much, she always felt like an insignificant background character, but i really started liking her in episode 21 -_-
i still liked chi-chan better though i think, regardless that i gave her a lower score.

this episode- 3/10
I felt ike in this ep it ebcame more romance with a bit of mystery then mystery with a bit of romance

Overall- 9/10
Excluding ep 22 I LOVED it <3
It was sitting at around 7 but episode 21 really pushed it to a 9

 
Sep 16, 2012 8:10 PM

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THIS IS THE FUCKING END, WHYYY!! I WANT MORE. I EVEN SCREAMED AT THAT FANTASIZING POSSIBILITY OREKI GAVE. I DEMAND A SEQUEL!

I'm pretty positive about considering to write a review...my first one ever. o.o
 
Sep 16, 2012 8:19 PM

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OH MY GOD
THAT ENDING
IVE NEVER SEEN HIM BLUSH THAT MUCH
WHEN HE WAS THINKING ABOUT SATOSHI WAS HE FEELING THE DOKI DOKIS OMFG
THAT WAS SO CUTE SO WONDERFUL
I NEED MORE THOUGH
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Sep 16, 2012 8:26 PM

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The first few episodes were terrible, but it really picked up at around EP11. So much character development, and Oreki was fun to follow.

5/5 for the episode, 7/10 for the series.
 
Sep 16, 2012 8:50 PM

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Damn I really wanted Oreki to confess, great episode nonetheless :)
 
Sep 16, 2012 8:57 PM

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Trolled O.o

Into thinking Oreki proposed to her...

Chitanda showed Oreki where she will always be... Though not the perfect place, and may not lead a perfect life... But she showed Oreki what it'll be like being with her.

Don't know if that made any sense to you guys, but that's how I see it.

Looks like the showed ended without a bang, very Hyouka like.

7/10
There are some great moments, but I don't think it did enough to get an 8 from me ^_^ But it's not far from 8.

Now.... Chuunibyou...
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Sep 16, 2012 8:58 PM

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Out of breath out of mind, for this last episode I let my mind be enveloped into the journey Houtarou ended up taking with Chitanda. I've loved this series since the first episode and these last 2 seasons only gained from having this show be on the line up. Anyways talking about this episode... I was curious what Hyouka would do for the final episode and like I guessed, I would never suspect a doll march (especially since I have little knowledge of japanese culture). Anyways, I liked the focus on Oreki, I relate to him really well, and even tho the Empress, mayaka, and satoshi got small parts in the episode I was ok with that. I like Oreki that much lol. But the ending as I saw the cherry blossoms bloom and Oreki's troll line of being the business side of Chitanda's business made me lose a breath and be stunned by the final moment of this great series. 9/10 ^.^
sry if I sound weird lol, its just one of those series XD
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:00 PM

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7/10 at best for me. too much SOL.

 
Sep 16, 2012 9:02 PM

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I liked this anime~
Kinda regret not participating in the mystery-solving, they gave hints too so you can solve it yourself.
I guess.
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:06 PM

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Nice ending to a great series.
I liked that open end. It was very Hyouka-like.


The characters were charismatic and fascinating.
I'll give Oreki credit for being the best main-character this year, so far.

Also loved the mysteries, that always reminded me of the PCP-concept from Bakuman, just in a way more interesting way.

So, even though I liked the ending, I definetely wouldn't say no to a second season.

8/10
 
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I liked the fact that they didn't shove romance between Houtarou and Chitanda down our throats but I do wish Hontaru did actually somewhat propose to her. It was a simple cute ep and I liked the anime overall.
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Sep 16, 2012 9:15 PM

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And here i wanted Oreki, to marry eru and take over the business.
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:21 PM

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Marow said:
Wonderful ending, couldn't have been any better :)
I have to admit that lack of a resolution feels like a tease, but it really fits the nature of Hyouka.

I wouldn't mind them animating the fifth novel in the future.

Hyouka grew on me with each episode and now I feel sad parting with it. That only happens with a few shows.


RIGHT?

I really didn't want this to end as a cliché (not respecting the basis of its plot).
And there we go! - 10/10

Hope there'll be more. One pack of 12 episodes for season 2 would be great.
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:37 PM

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AirStyles said:
Trolled O.o

Into thinking Oreki proposed to her...

Chitanda showed Oreki where she will always be... Though not the perfect place, and may not lead a perfect life... But she showed Oreki what it'll be like being with her.

Don't know if that made any sense to you guys, but that's how I see it.



I didn't think about it that way, that's interesting. But I mean, it makes sense it didn't "propose" or anything, they are only like 16 after all :P Give em a few years, it would probably happen. But that's the thing about open endings, it's all up to what you think/want to happen. I usually dont like that kind of ending, but Hyouka did it pretty well.

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Sep 16, 2012 9:38 PM

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Shih said:
That blur scene made me dizzy but it was so beautiful!

By the way, how much of the novel did the anime cover?

Tyrel said:
Masterpiece from Kyoto animation, once again. 10/10 for me, hoping for a Season two! EruXOreki forever~!


the anime covered until the whole volume 4.Currently,there are 5 volumes and the series start at 2001 till June 2012 so we won't see Hyouka for a while now even they decide to make season 2. Q_Q
However,the author say he will continue to write about Chitanda and Oreki after they graduate from highschool.I hope he write at a faster pace and we will see season 2


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Dunno why people was so hyped about the series. As detective it poor. Same goes with romance. The only good things is animation and OST. So 8/10 for me. No more.


The detective part of this series is one of the best in many detective anime.The case in the series is small and it is not considered as a case,but the process of "what they think,how they reach conclusion(the answer)" is very clear in the series,which can encourage us,the viewers to start thinking since we got the idea.Unlike most of those classic mystery,the cases in Hyouka is everyday mysteries in our daily life,which will let us feel closer to the series since it is realistic.By using the rich character and the stunning animation and rich characters, those seems normal everyday mystery become far fetch,good mystery that let our imagination run wild.So,that is why I hyped about this series...
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Dunno why people was so hyped about the series. As detective it poor. Same goes with romance. The only good things is animation and OST. So 8/10 for me. No more.
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:41 PM

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HORY SHET WAIT THAT REALLY WAS THE LAST EPISODE?!

NO BANG HUH. Damn, I was fangirling like crazy when Oreki pretty much proposed to her, BUT OF COURSE HYOUKA WON'T GIVE US THAT SATISFACTION. I love this series, but I am NOT satisfied. I need it to be more tied up, even if this is left to the viewers' imagination. How about SatoshixMayaka? And Oreki's sister? Why did Chitanda pause when she saw her at the fair? Was it just a pause and nothing else?

I need a season two or I'll die of curiosity. Oh.

Holy.

THEY LEFT US CURIOUS. OH. GAWD.

I AM JUST, I CANNOT TypE RiGHt NoW.

Review is coming up shortly...
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:47 PM

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I wish he actually told her that. ;-;
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:47 PM

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We didn't get to hear the final
I'm curious from Eru :o
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:49 PM

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A fizzled ending led to an even bigger disappointment when Oreki didn't actually say anything to Chitanda. This series could've been so much more, but instead we were fed one too many mundane "mysteries" and a shoddy light romance that barely resolved itself.

7/10
 
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ah another good series has come to an end :( wished they couldve ended it with oreki's cool line but it had to be just a clairvoyance, or else this series would've had a perfect end.

9/10
im gonna miss this series for sure!
 
Sep 16, 2012 9:52 PM

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End of Hyouka. I got bored , the part with the movie club and Valentine's day was probably the best , the mysteries are getting less and less impactful . Well enough with this .

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Sep 16, 2012 10:14 PM

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This was a great episode. I loved all of Hyoka all the episodes war wonderfull hope there will be a season 2 i want to see more of hotaro and chitanda. I'm curios about how their relationship will be xD
 
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QuiGonJon said:
AirStyles said:
Trolled O.o

Into thinking Oreki proposed to her...

Chitanda showed Oreki where she will always be... Though not the perfect place, and may not lead a perfect life... But she showed Oreki what it'll be like being with her.

Don't know if that made any sense to you guys, but that's how I see it.



I didn't think about it that way, that's interesting. But I mean, it makes sense it didn't "propose" or anything, they are only like 16 after all :P Give em a few years, it would probably happen. But that's the thing about open endings, it's all up to what you think/want to happen. I usually dont like that kind of ending, but Hyouka did it pretty well.


I pretty much agree with this, the character developments in Hyouka are somewhat the most interesting things to think about, when Eru tell Oreki about her intention, what's her plan for the future, she means "what will life look like if you want to stay with me", she's very mature I think, as a head daughter of the family, she's being serious.

And, looks like Orei wasn't mature enough to give her a proper answer, although he did think about it.

The ending was pretty Hyouka, I like it, Kyo Ani is famous with dramatic moments, romance feelings, but these were somewhat left out in Hyouka, I'd say it was their intention of doing so. Mystery, high school life, light hearted romantic feelings still linger in my head ...
 
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groundfish said:
the anime covered until the whole volume 4. Currently,there are 5 volumes and the series start at 2001 till June 2012 so we won't see Hyouka for a while now even they decide to make season 2. Q_Q
However,the author say he will continue to write about Chitanda and Oreki after they graduate from highschool.I hope he write at a faster pace and we will see season 2


That is great to hear! I had heard that the light novel series was complete at 5 novels,
It would be great to get to see more of these characters in the future!

As for the future of Hyouka, the anime, my bet would be on a movie, since there is gold in them there frames, and they will want to strike while the iron is hot, so to speak! Bring out volume 5's story as a movie, hopefully with a feel-good romantic ending, then pick up the series again in a few years when the author has written more. (Since it took him nearly 10 years to write the first five volumes (first volume published in 2001, 5th published in 2010), I don't look for him to start producing a ton of material soon.
 
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